Honda CRF300L vs Kawasaki KLX300

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With so many great light dual sport and adventure motorcycles on today's market, it's hard to sort out the differences and what bike will suit your riding needs the best. In this video, Wes and Kobee take the new Honda CRF300L and Kawasaki KLX300 out for some on and off-road riding to compare these bikes and offer some insight on where each of these machines shine, and help you figure out which motorcycle is the best option for you.
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@stevebratten6592
@stevebratten6592 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Yamaha! Where is the WR300R?!
@ElMCH-vb7xv
@ElMCH-vb7xv 2 жыл бұрын
They’re sleeping
@Getman43
@Getman43 2 жыл бұрын
@@ElMCH-vb7xv just like usual
@stevebratten6592
@stevebratten6592 2 жыл бұрын
@@jakeviolet2195 could get heavy
@SmokinZen
@SmokinZen 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully next year
@christopherbassit2757
@christopherbassit2757 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevebratten6592 would love to see both
@petezny4343
@petezny4343 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review guys. KLX300 owner here. Foot pegs, luggage rack and Seat Concepts seat and it's been the perfect mini adventure bike. I did also add a proper bash plate and hand guards for the more serious trail riding. And of course a zip tied milk crate for those times she's just an around town run errands sort of bike. Basically one of the best all around bikes I've owned in 45 years of riding those extra cc's make it so much better than the 200s and 250s I have owned. The only time the GS gets pulled out over the KLX is when a lot of highways will be involved.
@patwest1815
@patwest1815 Жыл бұрын
A little warning about the Honda, I think it needs a tighter spring on the kickstand. When you were jump testing it dropped a long way.
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc Жыл бұрын
NO DOUBT ABOUT IT 👍🏼 - Wes
@court2379
@court2379 Жыл бұрын
At 9:40, I went back to watch it again thinking that was odd.
@crypticreality8484
@crypticreality8484 7 ай бұрын
The Honda needs a lot of help lol
@dantheman4life
@dantheman4life 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video guys, we really appreciate it. Stay safe and I can't wait to see more rides from the crew!
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan!
@mototouro
@mototouro Жыл бұрын
You mention front brakes on the Honda. The bike's are made in Thailand (I live there) I have found a lot of new bikes coming straight from the factory, which have almost unusable, dangerous, brakes. First thing I did on my two Yamaha's, and Honda (all new bikes btw)was change the brake pads to a better quality, and that was a night and day difference. Hope that helps some people 😊
@ulrichschulze-lunern9954
@ulrichschulze-lunern9954 23 күн бұрын
Bei Neuen Bikes muß die Bremse von Konservierung gereinigt werden,und die Klötze einfahren!
@larrylund1138
@larrylund1138 Жыл бұрын
Your analogy at the end finally explained what you were talking about while riding because you almost never referred to which bike was doing what when you were riding and I almost never knew which bike you were talking about.
@sebastiengreen1517
@sebastiengreen1517 Жыл бұрын
I got the crf300l and my father the klx300, I found right off the bat that the klx is vibrating more on the road, the gears a little harder to engage and finding neutral and the display informations are better on the honda. The klx has a lighter feel for sure.
@NorthWestMotos
@NorthWestMotos 2 жыл бұрын
KLX all day baby. Sweet video! KLX300 owner here. My main mods were Tusk wrap around hand guards, Tusk luggage rack, Tusk excursion luggage with large dry bag and it handles all the weight well. Added a custom "DRZ Trashcan" type windscreen and that's helped tremendously to reduce fatigue on longer highway mile trips, but I did several thousand miles without one too. Great bike and I am really loving it so far.
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc Жыл бұрын
Sounds awesome! We cant wait to get some real luggage on these bikes!
@mikesteele1789
@mikesteele1789 Жыл бұрын
There both made in Brazil or china.i wouldn't waste my $$$
@ulrichschulze-lunern9954
@ulrichschulze-lunern9954 23 күн бұрын
​@@mikesteele1789Honda Wird in Thailand hergestellt
@CyberDemon1776
@CyberDemon1776 2 жыл бұрын
21 KLX 300 here, mods are Richocet skid plate, pro taper RC bend bars, bar risers, tusk hand gaurds, pillow top grips, ims pro pegs, top rack, nelson riggs tank bag, tusk rear fender delete. I absolutely love this bike. It was amazing stock but with the right mods this thing can be a cross country adventure bike thats still a blast on tight trails
@alupangguam7560
@alupangguam7560 Жыл бұрын
Any chance you could link me the bars you got? Also, did you experience any cable issues (bar length making the cable too tight) from installing the new bar?
@theEHWAZ
@theEHWAZ 2 жыл бұрын
I was contemplating both bikes. I love Honda and never had a Kawa. Ended up going Kawa due to the reasons you stated in this video and happy I did. Upgraded the footpegs, and handlebar and added Tusk luggage rack. I was not sure I wanted to add the luggage rack due to weight and width but It can easily be removed if I decide to ride single track so I love the flexibility. I've ridden it mainly off-road and after adjusting the suspension twice, I set it right for my weight. The adjustability makes a huge difference especially if I plan to put some luggage weight on it. I liked the Frag Camo vs. the Kawa green or Honda red but that's just my opinion.
@crypticreality8484
@crypticreality8484 8 ай бұрын
I want that same bike man
@AliasTekTV
@AliasTekTV 2 жыл бұрын
The clutch isn’t terrible, it’s a slip/lockup type clutch. Easy pull because light springs but it will lock up/force engagement when you accelerate. Sort of the same concept as a slipper clutch for sport bikes to avoid hard downshifts and lose traction.
@airadaimagery692
@airadaimagery692 2 жыл бұрын
Clutch pull on my rally is one of my favorite features on the bike
@joesisti4841
@joesisti4841 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was definitely some dumb commentary on their part imo. Love the slipper clutch on my rally.
@Matt-zn4zp
@Matt-zn4zp 2 жыл бұрын
Honda CRF 300L with new suspension, you won't be disappointed!!! Absolutely love mine!
@zachs5912
@zachs5912 Жыл бұрын
What suspension did you go with?
@broyal_gamers1237
@broyal_gamers1237 Жыл бұрын
Wondering the same
@inrptn
@inrptn Жыл бұрын
Just got my 2022 KLX300 last week. I weight 150lbs soaking wet and the suspension is absolutely perfect for me. I plan to take it on a BDR next year with 40+lbs of gear. All it needs is a new exhaust (mostly for better sound and tiny bit more grunt) and footpegs and it's ready to rock. It's also very smooth on the highway so far. Much much better than my previous two bikes on the highway, the DRZ400 and DR650.
@Dawgs241
@Dawgs241 2 жыл бұрын
Owner of a 22 KLX300. I came from sportbikes and midweight cruisers. The KLX300 will cruise on interstate at 70mph with ease, plenty of power. It is also lightweight and can rip off road. IMO, these 300's are the best dual sports to buy today. I went with the klx because it has the superior suspension. With the EJK fuel tuner, KX Snorkel, and Delkevic slip on, this this is a beast!!
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc Жыл бұрын
What was the biggest improvement that came from the fuel tuner?
@Dawgs241
@Dawgs241 Жыл бұрын
@@rmatvmc I noticed a little bit better throttle response. The bike rides snappier, if that makes sense. When I put on the Delkevic slip on and the KX snorkel, I initially used the O2 sensor. However, my bike ran a little lean and the exhaust pipe was glowing slightly between the engine and the bend on pipe, but when I installed the EJK and deleted the O2. The bike runs a lot cooler. No more glowing pipe.
@Muncherou812
@Muncherou812 Жыл бұрын
@@Dawgs241 what are your settings for the EJK? Thanks. I have a 2021 KLX300.
@Dawgs241
@Dawgs241 Жыл бұрын
@@Muncherou812 as of right now, I'm using the 3rd setting listed on the EJK instructions, (Base Settings for stage 1 mods with KDX snorkel on. ) bike is running good with this.
@maverickschukraft588
@maverickschukraft588 Жыл бұрын
I have the 13in delkevic, ejk tuner, tried kdx snorkel but bike runs better with no lid, and removed secondary throttle blade. Mods gave bike some serious grunt and throttle is super snappy
@threebikes
@threebikes 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video and real-world review. I purchased a 2022 KLX300 and did a few modifications to it to help it’s dirt riding performance which I have detailed on my KZfaq channel video. The modifications I chose to do helped solve a lot of the issues you were dealing with on your KLX300 review.
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc Жыл бұрын
What upgrade would you recommend doing first!? We may or may not have a build coming...
@threebikes
@threebikes Жыл бұрын
@@rmatvmc I think the answer depends on what you will use the dual sport for most of the time. If you will ride it in the dirt mostly like I do with very little street riding except to get to the trail (moderate single track and some hill climbs), then I would say the first thing would be some better dirt oriented tires (90% dirt, 10% street rated tires, a.k.a DOT dirt tires) with possible some heavy duty tubes. If money isn't an issue with this dirt oriented build, then I would say go Tubliss front and rear with the DOT dirt tires. The second thing I would do is new ProTaper bars, because as soon as you drop the bike in your dirt riding adventure there is a 100% chance the bars will break or bend. The third/fourth item would be replacing the foot pegs with some wider ones and skid plate. If you are using the bike for more of an adventure bike (commuting to work possibly with some fire road mellow dirt terrain), then the first thing I would replace would be the seat with a Seat Concepts seat. Followed closely by the second item to change which would be the bars (see reason above), then the third would be a rack system on the back of the seat to hold down storage systems to aid in the commute or other mild fire road camping adventures. Yes, I answered more than you wanted, but I was answering (proactively) your question for people that may be interested in what to upgrade for the 2nd and 3rd priority.
@TomorrowIsNow
@TomorrowIsNow Жыл бұрын
Love your Videos! Please do an adventure build on the KLX 300 like your other adventure builds.
@tracym427
@tracym427 Жыл бұрын
Love my crf300L but I’m a slow sucky rider that don’t know better. Soft suspension feels nice on the city roads.
@eduardomenchaca1916
@eduardomenchaca1916 Жыл бұрын
Love what kawi has been doing especially by not giving us weak suspension which is the downfall of most dual sports. For the engine, I still prefer the kawi I like the power and it hits and makes it more fun
@SmokinZen
@SmokinZen Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making a comparison like this it made me go with the KLX300
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc Жыл бұрын
Good choice! We love that bike! - Wes
@FlyApeRally
@FlyApeRally Жыл бұрын
Im in love with the green one.
@CajunEscapades
@CajunEscapades 2 жыл бұрын
I love watching these great comparison videos. And I love my 2021 300L. Even tho I'm a Kawasaki fan
@rc2634
@rc2634 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Bring us more!
@mylifeinthailand8751
@mylifeinthailand8751 Жыл бұрын
I fitted DRC wide pegs to my KLX250, made a massive difference
@DmitriyAdv
@DmitriyAdv Жыл бұрын
Cheap and cheerful! I truly believe that this segment is where most fun is had on a motorcycle
@ludeman
@ludeman 3 ай бұрын
Can we just all agree both are great bikes
@wendygerrish4964
@wendygerrish4964 Жыл бұрын
Great review!
@globetrotter7778
@globetrotter7778 Жыл бұрын
I still run my carburated 2010 KlX250S. It was then, just like the 300 is now, an affordable, versatile and reliable machine.
@tieoneon1614
@tieoneon1614 Жыл бұрын
Interesting that the Kawis chassis, motor, and suspension is from 1995. They just added EFI in 2018 and the older 300r jug in '21. It may be older, but works very well still and keeps the price down. I love that they did just EFI {mostly} on the KLX and KLR cuz all the old gen accessories still fit the chassis
@rossta78ify
@rossta78ify Жыл бұрын
Nice video! KlX owner here. It's a can't go wrong dual sport and doesn't need tons of upgrades. Foot pegs are a must! PMR makes some really nice racks, I have the whole set. Hand guards are a nice add as well as taller bars or risers. Looking forward to get some exhaust and a tuner to get a little extra grunt. Oversize tank would be nice too. Our range is slightly limited.
@furr666
@furr666 Жыл бұрын
does your KLX have enough torque to lug up hills in low rpm, say in 2nd or 3rd gear? I really want a 300 but am worried hey are noticeably underpowered in the off road
@rossta78ify
@rossta78ify Жыл бұрын
@@furr666 There are tons of variables to consider. I'm 250 lbs do I feel a lack of power at times...certainly. but for the most part yes, I pull hills reasonably for my riding style. If I'm lacking, I just drop a gear. You don't get much better unless you get a dirt only machine.
@EOTG_AK
@EOTG_AK 2 жыл бұрын
I do like how quiet they are. Would love a 450-500 class off road focused dual sport that purred like that.
@bluezhawg2104
@bluezhawg2104 7 ай бұрын
KTM makes one.
@TheSmokingMustache
@TheSmokingMustache 7 ай бұрын
​@@bluezhawg2104Yea, but the parts are more expensive (whole bike is really) and not AS reliable as the jap bikes on average.
@palpinter4204
@palpinter4204 4 ай бұрын
@@bluezhawg2104 No they don't . Just the engine clutter from my 501 is more than the engine+ exhaust note of the 300L
@daleswinehart1783
@daleswinehart1783 8 ай бұрын
Great video.
@robertturnbow4299
@robertturnbow4299 Жыл бұрын
I have really enjoyed my 2009 klx250s. I am seriously considering the klx300 as it has a little more grunt than my 250. The other option is the drz400s which has a lot more grunt.
@MrThejunkman
@MrThejunkman 9 ай бұрын
A 250cc dual sport is enough, which is why there is still a market for em!
@AirborneMOC031
@AirborneMOC031 17 күн бұрын
And you'd be lying to say it wasn't enough - simply because you don't enjoy the ride unless your bike without any dual sport luggage on it has the rear wheel throwing a roost every foot of the ride.
@darkkingastos4369
@darkkingastos4369 Жыл бұрын
AS a crf 250L owner I gotta say the Honda shines most on back highways and dirt roads. The suspension is smooth for my local roads and I can still break the law and head straight into the woods with no track for flint finding fun 🦴
@ReDD0311
@ReDD0311 2 жыл бұрын
Rocky Mountain is the only company that could get me to work retail
@rcvg69420
@rcvg69420 7 ай бұрын
Wow the shock on the crf is kind of outrageous, lol. It's like they forgot to put oil in it. Really wanting one of those KLXs now. Looks like a great true dual sport bike.
@Funco1979
@Funco1979 6 ай бұрын
The 2024 KLX300 is a beautiful looking bike and looks every bit as good as the Honda. Everyone seems to praise the KLX suspension and criticize the CRF suspension.
@mikep2563
@mikep2563 2 ай бұрын
They both need replacement springs front and reat.
@audiogarden21
@audiogarden21 Жыл бұрын
WR250R for life.
@DavidSkelhon
@DavidSkelhon 2 жыл бұрын
Had 250 versions of both. The Kawasaki is way better off road, thanks to its suspension. The Honda was smoother on the highway though, but liable to snatch off idle, unlike the Kawasaki which chugged along nicely without slipping the clutch. The Honda was a 2016 and the Kawasaki a 2019.
@mylifeinthailand8751
@mylifeinthailand8751 Жыл бұрын
Great review, I love both bikes but prefer the KLX
@danpluso
@danpluso 2 жыл бұрын
I learned on a CRF250L, switched to a KLX250S a year later (the Honda wasn't mine) and the KLX250S was way better offroad. I'd recommend the Honda if you are riding in the city and want a cool looking dirt bike or maybe plan to take the odd logging road here or there. Or if you plan on more highway driving. The Honda was definitely nicer on the highways. But as a dual sport where dirt is usually a priority, the KLX250S is way better. I haven't tried the 300s but it seems like all the same applies for these models too. Not surprising as they are probably the same, just bored out. I now ride a KTM 300 XC two stroke but I'd still like a dual sport for exploring logging roads or moto camping. Was wanting a WR250R, but those were discontinued so I hope Yamaha comes out with a new 300 dual sport soon.
@michaelanderson3771
@michaelanderson3771 2 жыл бұрын
Kwaka's have always had the edge in the suspension but laking in engine compared to the Honda. Your comparison has confirmed that again. Spend the money upgrading the Honda suspension and you have a great bike for trails or dual-sport and Mild single track. As other Aussies have said KLX = No ABS so won't be sold in Aus. Both are great bikes bit little options in Aus as Honda or Safety cone or Husky or the Suzy DRZ 400 great review - looking to see what you do to upgrade both as competent Adventure Dual sport bikes.
@itz_brando_yo
@itz_brando_yo Жыл бұрын
Hey guys, I loved this video!!! Really highlighted what you need to know about the bikes! I love that you didn’t put any specs in. There’s way too many videos already lol. I have a question. Would you say with upgraded suspension that you’d prefer the CRF over the KLX?
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc Жыл бұрын
To be honest, yes I would prefer the CRF with better suspension over the KLX. The engine is better. It vibrates less and pulls harder with a more linear power delivery... Not to mention the updated bodywork and looks. If you did decide to upgrade suspension you'd be well over another $1K into an entry level/ budget bike. You couldn't go wrong with either of these bikes but stay tuned for our light ADV setup and comparison of these bikes! We just finished filming it and it should give you more insight and experience with the bikes. - Wes
@itz_brando_yo
@itz_brando_yo Жыл бұрын
@@rmatvmc thank you!! I really appreciate the in depth response from you Wes! Looking forward to the new video!
@someguy9440
@someguy9440 Жыл бұрын
Sweet video with some actual off-road use. One area for improvement - on the radio you sound like twins, and i can't tell what bike you're commenting on. Instead of "this bike" it would help alot to remember to say this Honda, or this kawi etc. Again great vid. Cheers 👍
@bobbeck8697
@bobbeck8697 3 ай бұрын
Thank you gents. Excellent riding and review. I've been looking at both and have leaned towards the green. This was helpful. I thing the main thing will be those tiny pegs. I'm 63 so not looking for a crazy bike. Just fun on gravel roads in retirement.
@z33tanner
@z33tanner Жыл бұрын
Wow that jump test footage really shows how much softer the Honda is and the kickstand can't stay up? Cmon Honda they know better. KLX300 looks like a perfect first dual sport for me.
@Bigshow857
@Bigshow857 6 ай бұрын
Klx for the win
@hiltonmcconnell2563
@hiltonmcconnell2563 Жыл бұрын
Have the Honda 300 L and do like it a lot but changed tires before I picked it up. 73 so don't ride like you do but for what I do is great but would like to change the rear suspension I just don't know to what. I did put AXP bash plat and AXP rear tack on with a ammo plastic ammo box 17"x 17" x 8" I do like the ammo box over my proper boxes much lighter and $17.00 compared to $460.00 Also went with hand guards and a protector for the rear break cylinder Rear tire Dunlop D606 and front wanted Pirelli M16 but still weighting to get one so Kenda big block for now. Put a big foot on the kick stand and added 3/4 " spacer. ( found kink stand way to short. had to be carful parking on even a slight slope, ) Thanks for the Video I went with Honda over Kawasaki thinking it would be much less cost upgrading the suspension over up grading the engine. there is a graft that shows the horse power and torque of each side by side and one look at that shows that the Honda winds hands down, even so Kawasaki had a bit more at peak the Honda has much more usable. Can't find the chart right now but the bough have the same to a point the Kawasaki flattens out and Hondas keeps going up steady Then at high rev Kawasaki spikes and pass Honda but just for a bit then they bough drop off, Up grade the suspension on the Honda and you will have a clear winner.
@nigel2447
@nigel2447 2 жыл бұрын
KLX300 Delkavic slip on, KDX snorkel, secondary throttle removed, PCFC tuned for combo. Racetech gold valves front and rear, .46 kg/mm fork springs, 6.4 kg/mm rear spring. (185lb rider) D606 rear tire, MT21 front. IMS foot pegs. Renthal bars (less sweep than stock) and Zeta off set riser. 14t front 46t rear sprockets. Removal of the secondary throttle (in my opinion) is a must combined with a power commander and the correct tune. The secondary throttle is half closed all the way to 7K rpm, then opens at a linear rate and is full open at 9K rpm, must be for euro/EPA noise or emissions reasons. You will get roughly a 5 HP increase in the 6 to7K rpm range, not any peak improvement at 8K, but the midrange bump for trail riding is well worth it. I do a lot of trail riding in NY, and the above mods make the KLX a really nice trail bike for not a ton of money. A little buzzy at 65 with the sprockets, but way better for the trails. I have ridden some nice bikes (KTMs/Huskeys) and you can't make the inexpensive dual sports one of them, but a couple well thought out upgrades will keep an intermediate rider happy. Thanks for the review. Nice job!
@JohnnyBoy919
@JohnnyBoy919 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like.you got a pretty well sorted out klx. Where about in NY do you ride? I'm from long island, unfortunately not many legal places to ride here.
@nigel2447
@nigel2447 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyBoy919 I am a little east of Albany. Have trails as close as 5 miles to as far as you could go. I want to do some more exploring, got back into bikes because one of my kids wanted to get into it. I said OK, but you have to start in the dirt. I found him a KLX230 and I found the 300, tough to find bikes last year. We did suspension on the 230 also, made both bike much more trail worthy. The racetech stuff makes the bike much more supple over the chop, rocks, roots but still can handle G outs, whoops, and small amounts of air really well - considering what the bike is and it's intended purpose.
@JohnnyBoy919
@JohnnyBoy919 2 жыл бұрын
@@nigel2447 That's awesome, wish there was more riding here. My cousin has a cabin in ohio NY where I go a couple times a year to ride.
@matthew3136
@matthew3136 2 жыл бұрын
I am a big guy, I knew I would need suspension. I got the Rally and I love riding it. Sounds like I need a front fork swap to get dual front disks now though. Lol.
@frios011
@frios011 Жыл бұрын
Both very good bikes for what they have to offer. You can’t go wrong with either one. I’m a Kawasaki man myself, so my choice is obvious.
@user-de3xs1jh5y
@user-de3xs1jh5y Жыл бұрын
very good !!
@randypower
@randypower Жыл бұрын
Fun to watch -- nice work! I cringe at the term "entry level" thrown about freely because it implies you'll grow up and want something better. I prefer "budget" because maybe that fits your budget and/or riding needs and style.
@allans7281
@allans7281 Жыл бұрын
“Always more fun to ride a slower by fast than a faster bike slow”
@joshdoddadbod
@joshdoddadbod Жыл бұрын
All the klx needs is the aftermarket to make a 3-3.5 gallon tank available.
@Oskar_CII
@Oskar_CII 9 ай бұрын
Que lástima que la Kawasaki no llegue a España. Buen vídeo!
@savillecreations8046
@savillecreations8046 2 жыл бұрын
Have a Honda 300l on order. Just an average rider but if the suspension becomes an issue, I guess I'll be spending another $1,000. But it's the overall package is why I purchased the Honda...more linear power, ABS option, looks etc. So if you decided not to have ABS, upgrading the suspension on the Honda puts you only a little higher than the cost of the KLX. But I suspect at least half of the Honda owners will never have a suspension concern. Thanks for the video.
@itz_brando_yo
@itz_brando_yo Жыл бұрын
I’m looking into getting one of these bikes and I feel the same way. With upgraded suspension, the Honda has everything else. The KLX is a little bit more expensive already anyway. Would love to see a video on what you think of the bike when you get it!!
@savillecreations8046
@savillecreations8046 Жыл бұрын
@@itz_brando_yo hey Brandon. I haven’t gone into any discussion of my thoughts and impressions but here is a short video of my first ride. So far I love the bike. I wouldn’t mind more power but it still is great. I have been traveling a lot and haven’t yet had the chance to take it off-road. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mZdhmruTm9_cdoE.html
@itz_brando_yo
@itz_brando_yo Жыл бұрын
@@savillecreations8046 awesome man thank you!!! I’m going to give it a watch right now. 🤙🏻
@DirtRider22a
@DirtRider22a 2 жыл бұрын
My vote is for the klx…now to watch the video and see what you concluded
@ryanmoore686
@ryanmoore686 Жыл бұрын
I still want to pick up a crf300l. Hinda has always had light suspension especially in the front
@LtBallsack99
@LtBallsack99 Жыл бұрын
@ 9:38 watch the Hondas kickstand lol great video guys I've got the 300l
@mctransportation9831
@mctransportation9831 Жыл бұрын
How long will a set of in between aggressive and a more street like tire last on dual sport?
@212driller
@212driller Жыл бұрын
I'm still here waiting for a modern 450 dual sport with long maintenance intervals, preferably rally style. I simply cannot believe they don't exist right now.
@jimbennett2795
@jimbennett2795 Жыл бұрын
OK HERE IT IS: THE REASON HAS TO DO WITH THE MANUFACTURES PASSING SMOG TESTS They don't change the DR's or any other larger bore bikes now. If the bike is not changed over the years they don't have to pass the current smog test. They are grandfathered in. If they change or add a new bike to the line up it will have to pass today's smog test. NOBODY TALKS ABOUT THIS WHY???
@dirtwheels6679
@dirtwheels6679 2 жыл бұрын
If you mainly ride dirt the KLX is much more responsive with one tooth less on the countershaft. It still handles the street pretty well.
@alupangguam7560
@alupangguam7560 Жыл бұрын
Won't that eat up the chain slider much faster?
@dirtwheels6679
@dirtwheels6679 Жыл бұрын
@@alupangguam7560 Probably but I never had a problem. It saves the clutch for trails off-road though.
@trailsandtires1457
@trailsandtires1457 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see you guys do a head to head build of the two of them. I've been debating a CRF 300 knowing I would need to immediately pour money into suspension
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc Жыл бұрын
We're working on one! What are some of the upgrades you guys want to see??
@marcochavane3124
@marcochavane3124 Жыл бұрын
@@rmatvmc Rally Raid or YSS suspension on the Honda with fork cartridges. For the price difference between the bikes purchase price you can add springs or valving to the KLX since it's already adjustable.
@trailsandtires1457
@trailsandtires1457 Жыл бұрын
You both felt like the KLX was the way to go, but I feel like that was driven by the suspension. If you upgrade the suspension would the CRF be the way to go? ECU flash? Also would love to see you guys do them up as a small bore adventure bike and do a multi day trip.
@nigel2447
@nigel2447 Жыл бұрын
@@rmatvmc This would be for a 90/10 trail vs street focused upgrade comparison. I posted earlier, but do the KLX similar to this: Delkavic slip on, KDX snorkel, secondary throttle removed, PCFC tuned for combo. Racetech gold valves front and rear, .46 kg/mm fork springs, 6.4 kg/mm rear spring. (185lb rider) D606 rear tire, MT21 front. IMS foot pegs. Renthal bars (less sweep than stock) and Zeta off set riser. 14t front 46t rear sprockets. You will get a big boost in midrange with the secondary throttle removed and retuned with the Power Commander FC. Racetech upgrade is top-notch, $850 if you can turn your own wrenches. It is still an inexpensive Japanese Dual sport, but it is a great trail bike now and the suspension is fantastic. Good (for what it is) midrange punch now. The secondary throttle really hinders the bike. For the CRF: You will have to do a rear shock replacement and a complete cartridge kit for the forks. Probably $2k minimum. Optimize tires, gearing, ergonomics stuff ... to make the eval level. You could do a tuner, but the Honda has good midrange out of the box. You will have to do back to back dynos (especially if you do any engine/tuner mods) to quiet the silliness of thinking either that either bike makes a lot of power or that one substantially out powers the other, tuner or no tuner. Thanks, hope you do it, as either of these bikes with some careful upgrades can handle some fairly rough offroad, just not at the pace that the European offerings can.
@1979augistine
@1979augistine Жыл бұрын
@@rmatvmc ecu flash and pipe and header and intake high flow air filter and put both threw the dyno to see who gets the most benefit from being upgraded 😀
@nickifiedperformance5891
@nickifiedperformance5891 Ай бұрын
KLX cam mod! made a huge low end difference on my 250 im sure its the same on the 300! other then the power it was a great little bike
@coltonowens2742
@coltonowens2742 Жыл бұрын
Its funny seeing everyone praise the KLX for suspension. I found the limits on mine pretty fast, rocking some pretty gnarly single-track and rough shit in warner valley. Allthough its cool that I pushed a mild mannered trail bike as much as I did.
@alupangguam7560
@alupangguam7560 Жыл бұрын
Then try to imagine how fast you'd find the limits of the CRF...
@coltonowens2742
@coltonowens2742 Жыл бұрын
@@alupangguam7560 I think I'll just stick with my YZ125 :) KYB SSS GOAT
@luvsallbikes279
@luvsallbikes279 Жыл бұрын
I am interested in the super moto version. Only off road riding where I live would be too much of a commute.. just would like something for around town occasionally going to another small town using back roads if possible… any thoughts?
@Muscleupsanddangles
@Muscleupsanddangles Жыл бұрын
I'd take either but I'd love the Kaw I think
@mpilis13
@mpilis13 4 ай бұрын
i m so ready to take the KLX300 😁💖
@jeffreyjones2276
@jeffreyjones2276 Жыл бұрын
I noticed on the Honda that the kick stand flopped around during bigger landings. Did you note that issue? Looks like it could be a problem.
@Flat_track_guy1
@Flat_track_guy1 Жыл бұрын
250 2 stroke will be my all time favorite bike
@raymondpexton5440
@raymondpexton5440 Жыл бұрын
I have an XT250 and is a total blast
@allans7281
@allans7281 Жыл бұрын
Great video nice trail to ride!! off road’n is just so much fun. Honda needs rear YSS shock and race tech front fork upgrade Interesting to see what the verdict is
@allans7281
@allans7281 Жыл бұрын
Which clutch has a smoother lighter feel?
@DirtyDovi
@DirtyDovi 2 жыл бұрын
I've always been a bit bias towards Honda, but, in this case.. I'd have to say, I'd still go with my WR250R any day! 🤘😂
@milo8425
@milo8425 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the first thing I did was swap the fork spring and shock on the 300L. $500.
@diylife1688
@diylife1688 8 ай бұрын
Mates I really appreciate the review , A+ im thinkin Kawasaki :)
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 8 ай бұрын
It's our pleasure. The Kawasaki is a good choice!
@aeror115
@aeror115 2 жыл бұрын
The Kx is the bike for me!
@MoandSimbaforPeace
@MoandSimbaforPeace Жыл бұрын
Anyone found radiator gaurds that fit the klx? All the ones online an on ebay say 300r specific not the 300?
@squizzy10100
@squizzy10100 2 жыл бұрын
I'm from Australia, the Honda was the only one available as a dual sport for me(the klx300 doesn't have abs so isn't road legal in aus) but yeah the suspension is but I have had the bike 9months and I only ride single track through the forestry in my area and have only bottomed it out once jumping over a big log. But cause it's low end torque I can keep up with my mates on their ktm 450s in single track
@MrMountain707
@MrMountain707 Жыл бұрын
Didn't realize ABS was required in Ozyland. That means most motorcycles are illegal then? Or is this a law only for new bikes sold?
@squizzy10100
@squizzy10100 Жыл бұрын
@@MrMountain707 it's only in new bike but only for road bikes or bikes that are dual sport or adventure(so that's how husky and ktm etc get away with it cause their bikes are classed as road legal enduro bikes) but not only new bikes if a motorbike dealer buys a second hand dual sport or adventure bike that doesn't have abs to either have to get a abs system installed on it before reselling It or sell it as just a dirt bike(which is gonna make the price of second hand bikes sky rocket cause the dealer won't keep the charge from their pocket it will either be taken off the trade in price or added to the sale price :/
@MrMountain707
@MrMountain707 Жыл бұрын
@@squizzy10100 oh yeah that probably ads an extra grand to any bike then. That sucks
@squizzy10100
@squizzy10100 Жыл бұрын
@@MrMountain707 yeah I know glad I just bought the crf300l so I didn't have to worry about it lol
@dolf3288
@dolf3288 Жыл бұрын
@@squizzy10100 the Honda also has a 2 year warranty in Oz vs 6 months for the Kawasaki so good choice
@mikegunn3152
@mikegunn3152 Ай бұрын
I'm a big guy 6'4" 300lbs. I have KTM 690 enduro r a YZF450R and XL150L. I test drove the KLX300L and the Honda 300L. I ended up buying the Honda 300L. Spent the extra money on the suspension. I absolutely love it. Did a couple performance mods. Original dyno was 22hp at the rear tire. After mods 31hp at the rear tire. Stock positions KLX all the way. Upgraded Honda hands down. Also who leaves anything stock ?
@Justforfun-ek7et
@Justforfun-ek7et Жыл бұрын
Are there modifications for the Honda suspension that can be added, I ask because I am not a motorcycle owner and don’t know about these things.
@EdwardGottschalk
@EdwardGottschalk Жыл бұрын
Great video guys, multiple Husky owner, 2t and 4t, kinda been interested in the Honda cuz its seems like such a fun affordable package. Your opinions seem very good and balanced and I see the first comments are in favor of the Kawi. I'd offer a slightly different suggestion. I would rather upgrade my suspension then motor, which I've done in the past. Soo for me, brakes, springs, clutch are easier reworks then engine character. Soo probably would still pick the Honda, gonna improve brakes and clutch on either regardless...
@sam45malone
@sam45malone Жыл бұрын
I just got the 300 L I completly disagree with most these guys the Honda is way faster acceleration and top end just a few upgrades and it’ll be my perfect bike
@IAF7
@IAF7 2 жыл бұрын
No 2 strokes 😒 what happens with Yamaha enduro DT 175, DT 250 and DT 400. O no I'm 50 years late. 😔 Great video 👍
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc Жыл бұрын
The world needs more street legal 2 strokes! - Nick (1970 Yamaha CT175)
@Tony-zp8xn
@Tony-zp8xn 6 ай бұрын
I have a 300L Rally and I agree, the light clutch is super easy, but crap feedback. I swapped it out with a Zeta adjustable ultralight perch and 3-finger lever. I have it set to its lightest setting and it has much more feel, while still being pretty light and comfy. I do wish the stock suspension was better, but it does provide a very cushioned ride. Unfortunately, it also sags like crazy when loaded down, because it's so under sprung. A top rack with a tailbag and some rackless saddlebags is definitely the way to go. The upgraded headlight, larger front brake disc, larger fuel tank, and the windscreen were very compelling factors in my choice of the Rally.
@wsl5585
@wsl5585 2 жыл бұрын
Great feedback. It was like I was on a test ride. Although, a dealer would not let me take their bike where you guys rode. I would buy the KLX but I'm a loyal Honda guy. Over the years I've had a XL, XR, CR and CRF. I'll just have to pay more than the KLX to upgrade the 300L's suspension. Thank you for doing this video.
@DaddySizeIt
@DaddySizeIt Жыл бұрын
Honda was king 30-40 years ago. I rode red as well but don't be loyal. Makem earn it. Kawasaki was always my least favorite of the 4, but the KLX300SM is calling my name.
@boycottjews
@boycottjews Жыл бұрын
I don't know much about them actually. They look cool.
@OscarSchneegans
@OscarSchneegans Жыл бұрын
It's a lot easier to upgrade suspension and brake components than an engine.
@larryjones2563
@larryjones2563 2 ай бұрын
Great review guys. I could see the suspension on the KLX was better. Sure like the looks of the CRF though. Such a tough decision for me.
@justforfunvideohobby
@justforfunvideohobby Жыл бұрын
Good freaking video
@mabsbry1318
@mabsbry1318 Жыл бұрын
Kobee. What is your dual sport helmet in this video? It looks v good. Is it? Noise level? Thanks…
@Dave-sw2dm
@Dave-sw2dm 2 жыл бұрын
I have a '21 KLX300SM in my stable. Would have considered a Honda 300 rally had one been available when I was looking.
@Munawirtum
@Munawirtum Жыл бұрын
Both like Honda and Kawasaki, they're awesome!
@hiltonmcconnell2563
@hiltonmcconnell2563 Жыл бұрын
If you are doing up grades could you do the rear suspension first on the Honda then do s test ride before changing the front, Heard the rear alone make a huge difference. Would like your opinion on it.
@jrodriguez8216
@jrodriguez8216 Ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this review. Would love a review between the Yamaha XT250 and Honda CRF LS 300 (low suspension). This would be a great video for those of us short stature just starting off road riding. Please.
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc Ай бұрын
Thanks for your feedback! Much appreciated!
@allans7281
@allans7281 Жыл бұрын
Strange that Honda upgraded bike everywhere but the suspension, where it really matters. It’s as if it wasn’t for the American market
@trashpandatrailadv
@trashpandatrailadv Жыл бұрын
We here at TrashPanda Trail & ADV support the verdict of the KLX, it rocks luggage out of the box and aside from the styling and a few ergonomics is the better bike. You just got to learn to live in that 'power band', if you let her eat she will go where you want. Also can I have a job?
@Bikergramp57
@Bikergramp57 Жыл бұрын
I would be strapping on some extra fuel but the Kawi looks amazing
@olehyrole8535
@olehyrole8535 2 жыл бұрын
I would realy like to know what tires thez have on these bikes, they look perfect for my yamaha dt 125!
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc Жыл бұрын
We were running the Tusk Dsport tires on the front and rear. www.rockymountainatvmc.com/tires-and-wheels/tusk-dsport%C2%AE-adventure-tire-p
@loganborn_ZL1
@loganborn_ZL1 Ай бұрын
That KLX is definitely better for jumping and just off-roading
@Funco1979
@Funco1979 6 ай бұрын
The 2024 Kawasaki KLX300 would be my choice. I wouldn't bother with the Honda now I've seen this.
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