Tim Tursonoff same here

What you putting down on Dyno? You get it tuned as well I'm guessing? I actually do not like the raspiness of the S54 motor, but love the way the CSL sounds, does the cam and header dial some of that ricer rasp out?

drewmorg yes, it was custom tuned of course. 322whp. It sounds great now. It is loud for sure - but was to be expected. The car is basically straight piped.

​@@timmietz So nearly 400hp ? Would be amazing🎉

@@dirkfischer8852 it was. I sold it last year as part of a 6-for-1 trade on a Ferrari 812GTS. Funny to see my comment from 5 years ago. My top 3 now are: STO, 997.2 4.0, SCUD.

nah e46 m3 takes that

The Z8 deserves some honorable consideration there.

@@dannyllerenatv8635 z8 is already a classic no?

@@charlyc311 Just About!

Bmw E31, now that's a truly stunning car. I own an E36 and I could never go to a new style BMW especially how big and stupid the grilles are getting (not the one in the video though) . Just my own personal opinion.

Not a sports car? 7500rpm? yeah, a little more homework needed.

You cannot tell after 12 years if the value will go up. Look at how much an Audi S2 Coupe in good condition costs now. It is fuckin expensive. And the S2 Coupe was never a match to an M (of course comparing it within the time are in which they were relevant), because it would be called "RS2 Coupe" then. A car which has been so rarely produced like the Z4M Coupe with such an iconic silhoutte and a bunch of unique features WILL go up in value. Otherwise: I will buy that Z4M Coupe in 10 years, 90.000 Kilometres run, top condition, for € 12,000.00 in ten years ;). So I win either way.

@@MrPeperoni79 Values for clean cars already up about 25% since 2015 and rising.

This is a very poorly researched "review" - too many wrongs to right...

Seriously?

Same, 6’2 260lbs and I have much more issues in a huracan or a viper

Yes! I'm 6'6" and love it.

Right on, man. How long have you had your M3?

A little over 2 years & love every minute of driving it ! Ever since I was a kid always told myself that I would own one & now I finally got my chance

I trust you

Me too! 75% the car - 60ish% the price - 50% the maintenance costs 😊

They have same vanos and rod bearing issues though. not a dealbraker by any means

@Zombie Head of course wear and tear varies on drivability and performance one pushes out of an "M"

@@ScubaAlpineDriver the "rod bearing issue" isn't an issue at all, it's a maintenance item. Ultra tight clearances necessitate this, and it's not an outrageously expensive maintenance item at around 70,000mi. The car should NOT be warmed up by allowing to idle - drive straight off, keeping loads low and revs under 3000 until oil temp normal - that's why the car has an oil temp gauge and not a water temp gauge.

Good perspective, and now in 2023 (excepting a recent softening for most classics) there's been a steady rise. The big rise is yet to come, but given the car's rarity and unique analogue spec, inevitable. They don't make 'em like this any more!

Can u explain why it isn’t a good “street car” I am currently deciding weather or not to sell my c6 corvette for one of these. I don’t plan on tracking anymore than once or twice a year

"nothing to do with the engine" - what?!! It's the crowning glory of the car, and one of the main reasons to own one! Yes the chassis is great too, but dismissing one of BMW's best engines like that is simply silly. Yes, I have one, and it's a better engine than Porsche's vulnerable M96/97 and Aston's NA 6L V12, and the equal of Honda's B18CR - I have all these too. Otherwie I agree with what you said - its "street car" cred is limited by the hard uncompromising suspension, which really only comes into its own at higher speeds when being pushed.

shhhh! those don't exist!

@@ChristianArreguin Indeed :-) I have a z4mc and love the lines, but honestly find the roadster a hairdresser car. Although they're like 75% equal a little bit of roofline really transforms the car imo

I have a z4 m roadster spacegrau because I love roadster generally....sound, air it’s an other experience for me👍

The roadster has an appeal for those who like open top motoring. The Coupe is for hard core drivers because of its chassis rigidity, which is double of that of the roadster. It makes a big difference.

I have to say I agree. Also it sounds as though audio from a mic placed close to the exhaust has been overlaid really heavily rather than using the induction sounds. Hearing external exhaust note over the top of commentary given from the interior of the car is really weird.

This kid obviously doesn’t go to the track. Nothing against him, he just has no experience with a track focused car. Like saying a 911 turbo is better than a 911 GT3 because the turbo is faster in a straight line and smoother over bumps.

i do wonder if he knows what a csl is !???? def not a M3 dropped straight in

Sadly a poor review

Maybe he's just scared of hitting something because of that visibility.

My with 45k on it . It values up to $30k being conservative

jimmybell yeah this guy is a fuckboy moron. Should stick to vaping in a Subaru

@Rubedo Alaberti no, I do not know that. I've had two E86's and I still do not know that.

@Rubedo Alaberti maybe you have a leaky door seal or something? Are you sure it's not tire noise?

@Rubedo Alaberti great choice in tires. I had some 9 year old Michelin whatnots on my 3.0si when I bought it and put on the PS4s and it really got quieter.

Oh, and I drove my M coupe home from CT to TX and it was pretty quiet.

I got s2000 after one of your reviews. Hoon on brother!

Same here, loved the s2k and regret parting with it. They are so price now (f-ing FF). I am in this now tho and love it 100%. I gotta ask, do u have the driver side aero skirt, or the or strut brace for sale?

Awesome brother! Congratulations!

They made it for 3yrs. 2006-2008

3 years of production

give him a for effort but too much of a "general" review

Correct, Apex Arc -8, they recommend the following staggered fitment: Front: 18x8.5" ET35 or ET38 with 235/40-18 tires Rear: 18x9.5" ET22 with 275/35-18 tires. Hope it helps

Feel for you. Sold mine in 2015 and moved on to a 335. Such a boring car in comparison.

I remember like ten years ago nobody looked at these. Everyone wanted a e46… to say these are as much as e9x m3 I’m sorry but NO! the sound of that v8 alone makes its 10k more

and they have...

Interestingly, it has the most aggressive steering rack of any M model, made specifically for this car

@@megpanduh almost right - the steering rack is actually from the M3 CSL, so not made specifically for this car. Excellent steering.

LOL - yes, it's the reincarnation of the Z4MC, BUT no manual gearbox, turbo, it's just another modern box - not super special, although a good one.

How's that "right price" looking now? Maybe you should have bitten the bullet 4 years ago! Do you have one now?

You missed out "embarrassingly" in front of "misinformed"

ive owned both (currently a z4m coupe) they are extremely similar in performance terms and driver feel. the FD sadly suffers pretty massively from feeling really cheap inside.

the front hood line annoys me,should have been integrated grill like z3

Sepang?I have the interlagos

@Andrew Smith lol, when the american post a comment, here in europe BMWs can go forever. A guy in my area has a E30 with the S54 making 900 wheel.

Jaydeep Singh: wrap the sat nav in dark carbon fibre to improve the aesthetic. I own the 3.0si and that's what am going to do whilst I figure out if I want to upgrade to the M coupe.

What exhaust do you have on there?

Vibrant mufflers with a custom exhaust

H&R springs, Vibrant mufflers with a custom exhaust, Apex Arc 8 concave wheels in hyperblack, 18x9 and 18x10

328 skipad I prefer mine over my GT4. High Five!! Haha

Seeing as we're on the subject, I have a 997.1 C2 manual. The appeal of the Z4 is its raw edgy and sharp responsiveness of bothe the engine and the chassis. The 911 is more refined and comfortable. They are pretty much lineball in performance. If I could only keep one it'd be the Porsche. Because it's a 911, not a Boxster or Cayman - ;)

They haven’t in US. Still in the 20s for the most part. But people in Canada think these are 60k lololol

@@PHFilms3 ???? U even check the market before commenting lmao

@@peytonponder8488 check cars and bids… they haven’t gone crazy 20k something is what this car should be

@@PHFilms3 yeah what it should be but it’s not bruh. The convertibles are 20-30. Coupes are 35+ unless u get a high mileage one

In the three years since we posted this video, they've largely hovered around $30-40k usd during that time. It's just not as special as the Clownshoe, and the engine was found in other BMW vehicles.

Next car for me will either be the 3.0si or z4m... I've read that the 3.0si is a lot more comfortable for daily use.

I have an 07 and absolutely love it. Need to do the CDV delete, and then it will be perfect. Freaking gorgeous car in black.

@@charlyc311 z4m is not far off from skyrocketing in value and wayyyy more fun to drive, 3.0si will of course be cheaper to purchase and maintain but at the end of the day this is a unicorn after all being only produced for 2 years.

@@E_tiBEAMERBOY "way more fun to drive" is seriously exaggerated. The two cars are practically identical besides engine, gearbox and steering (talking about the "sport" spec of the 3.0si). The steering of the 3.0si isn't hydraulic but isn't bad at all. On this the M car is better but it's barely noticeable. Gearbox is a clear win for the 3.0si, much smoother and easier to operate. Finally engine.. the 3.0 engine is much more elastic and torquey, so much that in road driving scenarios the 3.0si figures sometimes beat the M car (and in general, there's not so much difference). The M is a track car, the 3.0si is the road car, and on the road is definitely "more fun to drive" than the M. (I have owned both cars, sold the M, decided keeping the 3.0si). Finally.. the 3.0si isn't really "more comfortable" (or yes, it is in SE spec) but definitely smoother and more pleasant to drive on the road. Even Evo magazine, an hardcore UK sports car magazine that is all about high performance, track-oriented versions of cars, when did review the 3.0si concluded they could not see a reason to spend 10k more to buy an M. Except you're a collector or buy the car only to drive it on track, I would add.

I got my 3.0si 5 years ago as my daily driver. Before I got one, I drove both back to back (z4-m and 3.0si). And I went for the 3.0si. Yes, overall, the Z4-M is the "better car" - the engine, hydraulic steering, no run-flats and the LSD are the big pluses. However, there is one big point in favour of the 3.0si: It is CONSIDERABLY lighter (100kg) than the Z4 M. And you notice that. It does not make the 3.0si as fast as the M, but it corners like hell and has massive amounts of grip to go along. It is cheaper, uses less fuel and is MUCH cheaper in insurance (here in Germany). I got used to the electrically assisted steering - which after loads of true M cars annoyed me at first - and actually like now, as it makes the car very easy to turn in town. As i do not use the LSD regularily, I get along quite well with the "fake LSD" implemented in electronics using brakes. The powerband of the N52B30 is much more accessible and the reduced weight is very noticable. I clearly follow Colin Chapman (of Lotus cars), who once stated: "If you want to have a better sports car, add less weight". If you want a true NA M car, the Z4 M is probably the best you can get. No doubt about that. But if you want a very good BMW NA sports car, the 3.0si is IMHO the better choice.

Count mine in. I only saw 3 M coupe in Toronto.

You mean the aero side skirts? Those are not for all M cars.

I think los angeles

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 Agreed but even a jdm junkie would appreciate the car.

He should keep it to JDM and keep away from German beasts.

@@cruishon I do! I have both - Z4MC and Honda JDM DC2 Integra Type R - equally exciting to drive. I ran another one of those as a race car for 16 years - incredible engine and chassis.

And he thinks it won't go up in value 😂

Agree! He doesn't know what he's talking about. I own both the Z4M Coupe and a E46 M3. Both are great in their own way but theres something special about the Z4M.

He can say it because he doesn't know much about the car, apart from what the salesman told him as he was thrown the keys. And we all know how much salesmen know about the cars they sell!

It’s already out... it’s called the Supra

@Alaberti exactly. It’s common for the interiors to be noisy in these cars because of how stiff the chassis is. Not to say it’s cheaply built but it makes sense.