This is one of the best comment threads in AFTER/DRIVE history. Well done guys

DRIVE, single handedly raising the prices on every car I want to buy

Before I bought my Z4 coupe I drove both models. The "Regular" Z4 Coupe was what I chose based on drivability. They both were great driving cars, but I felt that the "Regular" one was a better driving car. The "M" lived above 5500rpm, and was GREAT at high rpm, yet, the regular one ran better all around. Thus a dissension I made back then, is still valid today, as I still drive it on a daily basis. After 133,000 trouble free miles I'm STILL pleased with my choice......

Please do the best sports cars for 5k-20k. That's a young persons sports car budget usually.

S2000. They're​ not cheap and they will never get cheaper. They rev past 8000. You can rest assured they will only appreciate.

Such a great platform, great choice. The Z4 GT3 is one of the most gorgeous racecars ever made IMO. The Z4M or even a regular Z4 will always be on my wishlist.

I have a z4 3.0i roadster, I'd love the coupe they look better, especially the z4m, I do enjoy putting the roof down though Straight 6 n/a engine is great

I have an 06 Z4M coupe Dinan with plenty of mods. Brembo BBK, Dinan 3.91 diff, evolve carbon intake and alpha n tune to name a few. Love it.

As a Z4M driver I agree, though I might be a bit biased ;-) But that S54 engine is just a masterpiece, I honestly don't think there is any other engine in that price range which can beat it. Good power output, driveability, decent torque, revs to 8.000RPM, sounds awesome, decent fuel consumption (11-13l/100km), reliable, not to heavy

A little over a year ago I bought an '07 Z4 M Coupe, black on extended black leather. An unknown past and 100,000 miles on it. I drove it before I bought it and what a beast (lol, especially with the Sport button on). I LOVE THIS CAR so much - I've had a lot of Mustangs including a Saleen and also owned an '04 Honda S2000. All shite compared to this god of a car. I've never driven or been in a car with so much soul. I will pay for and replace anything and everything this car needs to keep it for a very long time. Engine blows? So what, I'll replace it. Reliability? For many years I avoided used BMW's cus I "heard" they were unreliable. Dead wrong. 107k and 10 years old and this thing has been faultless. It literally drives like it's brand new and I've had not one problem of ANY kind with it. Lastly, if you own one of these do yourself a favor and get the Stromung mufflers. Not too loud at all for this old guy but still quite beefy.

This is awesome loving it keep up the good work should do atleast monthly episodes. Yiu guys are my favorite car guys

I watched/ listened to your z4 m coupe episode this morning on my way home from work this morning. I live on Long Island and work nights in NYC. I have had an interest in this car since the first one debuted. Now Im sure prices will soon skyrocket. Any way I really enjoy the show it keeps me entertained on my 120 mile round trip commute. I have been into ATV motor-cross for some time and now closing in on forty and being a new parent comes with time restraints and the hobbies take a back seat. I had always been into cars since my father has been a mechanic and hot rod enthusiast. Life, careers, and economic recessions get in the way sometimes of plans and goals. I had my own business, bought a house with enough property for a detached 3 car garage and was doing well before 2009. Well a career change and a few years later I found myself in a VW GTI to commute with. Shortly thereafter with a slew of bolt ons and suspension mods I found myself looking forward to my commute and feeling like a kid again driving my brothers Honda Civic SI hatch and Integra's of the early nineties. Now I am at a good place in my career Im looking for a newer car being that I put almost 200k on the GTI. This leads me to ask a the question if you had a commute like mine what would you buy knowing it will depreciate fast. Although I have a diesel pickup for bad weather I was looking at a 2012-13 Audi TTS for an awd sporty option with comfort. Or would you continue to drive the GTI and buy something along the lines of the Z4 M coupe or a 997 911 for the weekends and a day here or there to work. I would like to start doing some track days in the near future. Thoughts? Im having a tough time deciding.

Ford Fiesta ST. It's not old, but used ones are on the market everywhere for mid to high teens. If you haven't driven one don't count it off just because front wheel drive and cheap. It wont be the fastest lap time anywhere but it makes you want to take the back way home every day.

*My list* BMW 335i N54, Honda S2000, Nissan 350z/Infiniti G35, BMW e46 330ci

I like the discussions at /Drive. It has so many car views and explores different cars keep up the good work

You’ve managed to forge the penultimate car discussion in recent history. This is unparalleled. PLEASE continue with this beautiful format!

Nice to see that drive is reviving :)

Specs as promised: 2007 BMW Z4 Specs Engine No internal engine modifications Castrol TWS 10W60 oil RPI intake scoops Euro S54 headers Supersprint X-pipe, connecting pipe and mufflers ESS Software Flash Vorshlag poly engine mounts (Returned to stock) Transmission & Drivetrain No internal transmission modifications Redline MTL transmission fluid Redline 75W90 differential gear oil UUC clutch kit w/ lightweight flywheel Vorshlag transmission mounts (Returned to stock) UUC short shifter UUC DSSR Clutch Delay Valve Delete Suspension & Chassis KW Clubsport coilovers w/camber plates TC Kline rear trailing arm bushings TC Kline adjustable rear lower control arms TC Kline rear shock mounts Strong Strut front upper strut tower brace Powerflex front control arm bushings BBS RGR 18x8.5 and 18X10 wheels Brakes OEM rotors Motul RBF 600 Brake Fluid Stoptech braided brake lines Performance Friction PFC01 brake pads Body & Interior Sparco DTM RS carbon fiber seats Speedware Motorsports brackets Speedware Motorsports aluminum side mounts Schroth 6-point racing harnesses. APR carbon fiber front splitter APR carbon fiber rear adjustable spoiler Braille 15lb Battery and mount (Returned to stock) Custom half cage manufactured and installed by Speedware Motorsports I/OPort camera mount Other All modifications and maintenance performed by Speedware Motorsports in Redmond WA. (www.speedwaremotorsports.com) In the past two years the car has been maintained by Northeast Motorsports in NJ (www.nemotorsportsllc.com)

I bought an '01 BMW Z3 3.0i last year with only 19k miles on it. It obviously isn't up to M spec, but the one thing about that car that I noticed them say in this video is that it made me enjoy driving again. There is something about the combination of attributes that just makes me want to drive it. In fact, I am being very careful with my modifications so I don't ruin that inherent goodness. I could care less if it isn't faster than a Mustang. It is such a pure joy to drive that it doesn't matter. I imagine the Z4M is much the same. I am keeping my eyes out for one to add to my stable.

After Drive is my favorite of the Drive shows. Great stuff. You guys should make a podcast! At least weekly. It would be killer

Guys, that turn from the hip feeling Prichinello was talking about ... I could never explain the sensation, but to me that is the most exciting gifts a good handling sporty car could give me, as a driver. I have only felt it once before, and believe it of not that was in an 87' Honda Prelude. I think the secret is in the long front hood and the driver sitting further back.--- Any other cars that you know of that fit this type of entertainment? I'll be in the market in a few months.

The z4 3.0si coupe is an excellent alternative to the Z4 M coupe since it's 200 lbs lighter (all in the front end) with a magnesium block engine, and still excellent power. The 3.0si coupe is one of the lightest BMW rwd sports cars.

This is a great review of the Z4 M. It' been on my radar for some time... I think it's now on my must own list. I'd love to see a drive captured on video.

Ilove these, "What should you buy programs. Advice coming from the best in the biz. Thanks guys.

Z4 coupe is like a much better version of the 350z

Great show guys! I'm hoping to be up your way in the next few weeks. CCCM is on my stop list. It may be older than ten years but you guys should at least give a shout out to the E24 M6. My opinion in being a next up and comer following the 964. Just a thought. Im currently finishing an "Outlaw" M635 myself and have been following the stats of the M6 three years now. I'm predicting that the E24 will shock a lot of people. Your thoughts??

I see these cars every now and then in SF and I think they look really great. Thanks for the good info.

So glad this is back. Missed these guys over the past year.

As an owner of a '07 Z4M Coupe, I must say this car has really been a great one to own. I find this car is a blend between a GT car with a great aptitude for distance, and an agile sports car. After owning many different sports cars, this now shares my garage with a turbo '00 Impreza and an '86 MR2 (turbo swap in process). Random bit of info, but the M has nearly the same wheelbase as the old MR2, but considerably more width. In my eyes, this car is a true gem. To me, this provides nearly the same driving experience as a 911, but priced in a similar bracket as the Cayman. The Cayman feels slightly less powerful, and a breeze in the corners. However, the reality is you just don't have to work for it. From there, conversations generally refer you up to the 911 which of course provides a little more of a challenge. To me, this car just bridges the gap and is extremely rewarding. Essentially, it punches a little above it's weight bracket. When at the track, the M makes the top 10% of performance something you have to really hone your skills with, but blissful to drive within the lower 90%. As such, I find myself driving this car nearly every day.

the Z3M is the bread van here in the UK +/DRIVE

My z4m roadster was 340bhp, but now has 525bhp with ess supercharger. It,s a BEAST.

Still holding on to mine. 28k miles, silver and stock. Love it

Too much talking not enough car.

i got sleepy watching this....

I've been seeing Z4 M Coupes getting a lot of attention lately, but I don't think people give the non-M roadsters enough credit. I've used a 2006 with the N52 as a daily for 2 years now and a lot of the sensations you guys described translate to the car. Sitting behind the middle of the car, putting the top down, hearing the 6 wailing, and enjoying the "double click" shifts never gets old and reminds me of why I love driving. For similar mileage, you can get one for less than an S2000, which is a better sports car, but a Z4 will give you 90% of the performance and a better all-around car and equally enjoyable experience.

Love my '07 Z4 M Roadster. Wanted a Coupe, but didn't care for the visibility compared to the roadster.

3:00 Shooting brake is the term you're looking for, I think.

996 Turbo. Hands down the most underrated car out there just because of the headlights.

I had this car a few years ago and still miss it. Because you sit so far back it's really easy to drift and have fun with. I also tracked it quite a bit and at Mosport which is a pretty high speed track it was awesome. The only thing I really ended up changing was the brakes so I could brake later.

I love when you guys do this. Thanks

997.1 Turbo 997.1 GT3 RS BMW m5/m6 V10 (yes, I know that those are heavy but da noise)!! BMW Z4 M coupe Honda S2000 Corvette C6 Z06 Audi RS4 Audi R8 MT6

Everyone seems to over looks this...but the E46 non M cars are fantastic. I drive a E46 325ci and its an absolute blast. It's not fast but it's plenty fun, takes suspension mods well, is cheap/supported well in the after market, and still manages 30+ mpg on the highway.

A 2007 model seems so new to me. The newest thing I've ever owned was 2001 and that seemed really modern by my standards.

I won't argue with your pick here. That looks like a ton of fun to drive. But, now that I am older, I want something slightly more comfortable and with more space because I can't have a garage full of cars. So I'd go with an XK until the FType ages. I had a 97 and loved it. More of a sports tourer than a true sports car, but it's good enough to have fun in. Pikes Peak was a riot.

I love that land cruiser

2007 Corvette Z06. Over 500 hp, a design that has and will stand up over time, and it's easily modified. Plus any repair work is relatively cheap.

I like the idea of working on the actual driving. Putting wider more low profile tires because that "should" handle better can be a big mistake. Same with stiffer suspension for its own sake. I had a 61 E-Type that did not have great ultimate stick but was a joy to drive and rewarded a good touch. You could steer with the throttle through a turn and getting the gear shift just right was a rewarding experience. I did do a lot of small mods but never chased more horse power for its own sake.

You guys have to make a video on the s2000... It's the car that reignited my love for driving and made my love for cars even bigger! Definitely in the sports car hall of fame!

Wish z4 M coupes were cheaper but a non M e46 or a z4 3.0 is plenty fun still

How much for the Landcruiser? ;D

Glad to see the s2000 here. Growing up that was my dream car didnt know shit about it. Finally got it and really appreciating and acknowleding its creation. Bring back the old honda!

My Stage 2 GTI (its an '08 purchased in '07 so that counts as 10 years old right?) completely reignited my love for driving. I had been all about motorcycles for some time (still am) and decided no car could come remotely close to how much I enjoyed my bike. GTI changed that. What a good, charming, and fun car.

I went for the 135i (N54)

Eyyy

Z3 M Coupe for me its the peach, because of the looks, the rear E30 suspensión, the S54 motor and the overall drive.. had the z4m but sold it because of the Z3MC! S2K is another great machine.. it has the best shifter of its class 👌

I was always curious about this car. It just looked fun, until I drove it. NOW I LOVE THIS CAR! Z4 coupe!

Like the dude below Nissan 350z, great bang for your buck. A 3.5 V6 with one of the best sounding exhausts I've ever heard. Also the old BMW M6 Coupe?

my 996 turbo. way older than 10. all season car. or evo x

Great episode guys. Please continue with 20 yr old car, 30 yr and 40 yr. Thanks.

1815 Z4M coupes were built over three years for North America, making it pretty rare. Which means that you are going to pay for some expensive work/parts when repairs need to be done. Also, for those who slam Corvette interiors, the base Z4M was no better than the 2005 C6, with acres of black, featureless plastic and I say this as a BMW owner. The Z4M looks great (at least on the outside) and is fun to drive. The review is just about that, and not about "value," or how much you get for your money. For the $18-25,000 they go for now you certainly get a cool car that won't look like anyone else's.

I logged in just to give this video a thumbs up, regardless if I liked their choice...because /DRIVE is a cool channel and deserves it.

any 997 would be pretty awesome

I'm so happy you guys are back

I just bought one in a very good condition. So far they are not at 25K any longer. I am so looking forward to the warmer days to enjoy it!

350z, STI, corvette, audi rs4, lotus exige

BMW E46 330ci manual. Bought mine with 120k miles for $4800. Just done some basic maintenance and I have put 30k miles on it no problem. Fantastic to drive, pretty quick, and mines got a drop top.

Love the Show keep up the good work and more videos please

Miss this show. Thank you.

2007 Volvo S60R. Performance Volvos have always been more about that visceral experience of driving compared to sheer speed but they certainly aren't lacking there either

2009 Porsche Cayman S with PDK.

These guys are the best car talking panel. Great job.

Gents, The M coupe version of the Z4 really makes that car and it should be the only version. The car looks bad ass and has all of the other characteristics to back it up. It would be really nice to see the car being DRIVEN!

Lotus Elise.

2007 porsche cayman.

Hi Guys, I just went for a Mercedes SLK 55 AMG, which was 12 years old but only 25k miles - and garaged day and night for last 10 years. It is a real iron fist in a velvet glove, but the Auto box IS dull-witted, and the handling/ride compromise is nowhere near a Boxster - but ok. For the money - in a straight line there isn't much to touch it for £15k. I've tried quite a few cars having been a London CCC member for 15 years or so. Keep up the good work

The pendulum motion you described happens because it's exactly opposite as you described. You are sitting closer to the rear wheels so you are at the end of the pendulum which is pronounced. Small input in front of you, large output behind you. It makes for a feeling of as you stated, rotating. A car that truly rotates on it's center is like driving a bumper-car.

2007 Porsche GT3. What do I win?

Car manufacturers need to stop making crap digital cars and go back to analog, everything is so disconnected and artificial feeling these days...

BTW, love the thicker rubber. Mandatory for our roads IMO.

Crossfire. I've bought one, it's rare, looks stunning and still very modern, cruises like a proper GT, has more than enough speed (6.7s -60 & 155mph) great engine (3.2 SLK V6) and handles really well, even if it feel so rather numb to control. It has plenty of equipment, it's comfortable and all this costs very little money now.

997 Turbo.

350z NISMO! only because I have one and I cant afford anything over 20K hahaha

Could not agree more with the comments! I have a '09 July Coupe model and it's something special. Did all the mechanical work (i.e. bearings, VANOS) and now pulls like a train. For the price, nothing comes close in terms of brutal, raw, zinging, screaming performance. It's been over two years of ownership and it still scares me every time I drive it.

In the UK I'd go for the S2 Lotus Elise SC (Supercharged). In fact I just got one, and it's by FAR the most fun car I've ever owned (previously had an E92 M3, Evo 5, TT GTO, E46 M3, S2000, and many more). It's just focused on driving - no frills, almost like a big gokart, and they hold their value incredibly well compared to other makes. I have a grin on my face almost from the moment I get in, to when I get out. Would recommend to anyone :)

can we stop with the BMWs? I get it, they're great but there are other options out there. e30, z4, BMW BMW BMW. it's like I'm 14 again sitting in my Dad's garage hearing him ramble on and on. sorry but the over exposure makes the brand uncool. I want to know about hidden gems, not the no brainers. Sorry Drive.

E46 M3

as an owner of the older z3 m coupe id love to know how this car performs compared to mine. love the way it looks, can't go wrong with an s54 and the z geometry is just the best. good choice guys

Mike - been a while since I tuned in but your new haircut is a big improvement!

In 10 years will this be the F-Type Manual?

e46 M3

C6 Corvette with the Z51 package. Very comfortable, run to drive and fast. I have a 07 and it's a beast when i want it to be.

Love my Z4M Coupe '06. Few GREAT mods: Eibach springs, 19"CSL wheels, maxed front camber (-1.5deg) and unlocked M-Track software (same as M3 CSL, google guide). And RedLine MTL in gearbox. Now it's comfy, great on track & looks fantastic! (Its not as fast as my old Fiat Coupe 20VT or as fun as my Alfa 75 V6 but hey, it's a german car what do u expect :) )

26minute vide with no fucking b-roll. Get it together guys, its not a podcast.

Evo X for car. Isuzu VehiCross for SUV. Both great drives with Recaro seats stock lol.

2007 GT3 for sure! I love driving mine!

I don't know what is the best driver but the car that made me fall in love with driving is the 2nd generation MR2 turbo. on a side note, I am from Utica and I'm curious where you are going for pasta?

Porsche Cayman

S2000!!!!!!👍

The P71 Crown Vic has astonishing dynamics when pushed to the limits….a little modding and you have an EXCELLENT bug out vehicle…

There's been a lot of love for the z4 these days...interesting!!!