Really changes the way I see this film. It has actually been one of my least favorites of Q.T. How much is it going to cost me to get you to rewatch Natural Born Killers? The metoo movement is an interesting angle as I have an odd feeling that one actor was set up to have his nose broken on camera on NBK. Filmed in a real prison, he makes it clear that Stone wanted to keep filming even when he knew what happened. Why? Looking back it might be as retaliation for what he likes to get into off set. See his naughty video release. The beginning sequence seems to be an indictment on actors and the culture of Hollywood. The behind the scenes make him seem like a prick too. Consider the lead roles. Both victims of abuse but neither had ever been in a leading role. Woody's father was a hitman. So, so much more... The layers in this film are begging for a proper critical analysis.

NBK is on my list. aven't gotten a HD copy yet though.

Can you do a video on Children of Men, would ve awesome as Im doing an essay for it :)

Thank you for mentioning that this was a revision to an earlier piece. Watching it, i was getting a bit of unsettling déjà vu about it and was fearing Mandela Effect.

Collative Learning also the name palooka Vegas calls butch is slang for boxers that take dives.. and punchy is a nick name of a boxer in an old film that was suppose to take a dive in the 4th round in pulp it was the 5th.. that's why butch gives that fucked up look at VV and MW when they had a big hug.. it was like "wtf he knows I'm to take a dive"

No, that's a Camaro

Wow the parallel with a soldier's experience is trully special. War movies like saving Private Ryans show this so well as you see soldier's of different levels of experience who would react to war in one of those 3 ways.

Spot on!

Nice viewpoint. I thought that Butch understood early that Vincent was "the" hitman gangster, and would thwart Butch at every given opportunity, and so therefore Butch knew that he had to end Vincent if allowed the chance. This specific scene incorporated what you prescribed in a dramatic way to reveal Butch's strategy IMO.

I enjoyed this comment. Well thought out...

Wow, never thought about that. Smart analysis there. Thanks.

Some people go to pawn shops to purchase items at a not-so discounted price. And some go to sell stolen goods.

Thank yooooooouuuu!

Spot on

Just fucking stop, you incredible dork

lol yup

@Mr Sir It was Marcellus' gun. He went out for coffee, didn't figure Butch'd get the drop on Vincent while he was dropping a deuce.

You could argue that Butch really doesn't want to kill, (keeping in with the redemption theme) however after seeing this specific Hitman from the Bar, he doesn't hesitate. Ur point is more just good movie logic, while the video is looking for more of a deeper insight.

@@adriandurlej9266 I believe he DID hesitate. They stood there, mutually amazed that they're staring at the other, and the sound of the toaster popping up the toaster pastries startled Butch's warrior-family reflexes into action.

Thank you. He killed a guy who was there to kill him. And you know, for taking a shit...

The ceramic piece has the kangaroo wearing gloves and putting up his dukes.

Butch sings along with song lyrics Captain Kangaroo ....

I missed all these references. Thank you all.

Quinn Rollen same. I never really caught the detail.

My Dad had that exact same kangaroo, only it was orange not tan. Always wondered if it was a common household item back in the day

@@greatest_bumble_bee_dude *a Butch

I don't think the British believe in the concept of self defense.

manmadegod100 that’s right

Moreover -- Vincent Died because he was not under some form of Divine Protection. Did he die because Jules wasn't there to talk sense? The bullet dodge at the beginning ....

jamespfp I did a video where I said the same thing, truly. He didnt take the sign from god and like U said he wasn’t protected.

Nice piece of Black Comedy. Underrated Line and Scene

Me too 😂😂, I think it's because when he says no man I'm pretty fucking far from ok it makes you think of what happened a couple of minutes ago, obviously he's pretty fucking far from ok 😂

Max Payne yea I mean I think it’s a great line and the delivery is spot on. Basically you think to yourself “yea I mean what was I expecting?”

My FAV is Butch deciding on his weapon 😂😂😂 The look on his face when he finally sees the sword, which I’m guessing is a hint of what’s to come in Kill Bill.

GeoStreber I just think he is there so long that he was tortured into absolute submission. Maybe even developed a dependance or Stockholm syndrome on his abusers to being able to cope mentally with the situation.

This guy is grasping at straws. I really don't believe all these connections he's making are intentional

Maybe yes... maybe no. Maybe we gotta ask Tarantino and his answer would be "has no meaning really". That's the problem with over analyzing thins, people get lost and in some cases (art even politics) see genius, truth, refferences where in reality it was a non related line or a phrase in a script.

I agree. I read The Gimps behavior as saying, "you're mine" (not, "you're me" or "you're here to replace me". The Gimp was letting Butch know that when it was Butch's turn to be raped, The Gimp was going to do the raping. The Gimp is not a victim in this at all.

@@whome5933 Why is is it hard to believe 'intentionality'? I am collector and every single thing in my home is placed in regard to colour, function etc, deliberately, and I'm just a schmuck doing it for myself. A genius film-maker like Tarantino would spend any amount of time ensuring his meaning is displayed symbolically. There is no reason to believe that these things are NOT intentional; it's the medium for god's sake.

In movies no piece of furniture, no clock on the wall, a magazine on a table is there by accident. It was added or left in place. Either is a choice. I agree, colour, music, sound effects. So much has to go into making movies

They are also the colors of our childhood memories (gen x) because they were widely used in decor then completely fell out of use.

I took it as a Samurai sword is often a weapon used honor in mind, atleast considering all the warrior references this makes sense, also considering he found it in the moment he showed his true character by going back to help Wallace. That's been my take anyways

Pretentious

@@josiahcone7506 you ever consider maybe Tarantino just thought it looked badass? He made two movies revolving around a katana-wielding woman for crying out loud, there’s not some deep hidden meaning behind every single thing on the screen.

Early vietnamese swords very much resemble katanas

Honestly I didn’t know that either. One side of me wants to say that you’re wrong in the symbolism. That it’s not that deep. But... it’s a QT movie, everything is symbolic, even the symbolism is symbolic.

Swords are prominent though many South East Asian cultures , Vietnam , Thailand , Cambodia , and Myanmar just to name a few .

The foreshadow for the infamous Hattori Hanzo sword. Youre welcome.

@@mcmoose64 they are also prominent in France, Germany, Italy, England, Scotland, Hungary, Arabia, etc. you’re talking out of your ass

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Smug Anime Girl literally nobody asked

@Charlie Bravo who

I wonder how many people know that the confederate army was fighting for soverignty from the dead legel fiction comeing back into a new country that had freed itself from the tyranny of martime law. If you know the truth about maritime law you would no the irony it was the confederates that where fighting to end the real version of slavery. But history is written by the winners and the good guys have yet to win here on earth. This is why we face the world we face now. But god remembers the saints through out the ages. And now that we approach the grand final soon those who laid down their lives in the spiritual war to retain gods soverignty will be remembered when judgement comes. Those that hide in the shadows that scheme to become gods themselves will face their judgement too. The Anunakai made us with their DNA. They gave us their selfawareness and knowledge (fruit from the tree of knowledge) but not the life span (fruit from the tree of life) When we are ready they will unlock it for those worthy. They already have with one of us. Sesudra (Noah) and his wife. Wether they are still here on earth or went back to niberu with the rest of the Anunaki they will still very much be alive today. For those that know the truth of our origins and use that knowledge to genetically unlock this capability before we are ready. Those that by default are not ready just by attempting this will be judged harshly. But so will those who fall for their tricks. They made it very clear. Those that wear the mark of the beast will be judged the same as the perpertraitors. Ignorance will not be excused thats why they warned us. So if ever there was a time to wake up its now. My people are destroyed through a lack of knowledge. This was not some flippiant remark. The more you know the truth the better your chances of not being deceived by the deciever.

And there it all is ! Ha!

I suspect that the background in the cab ride scene is also a reference to Psycho. Critics noted how Hitchcock shot that scene in a way that all the headlights you see in the rear mirror are always gaining on her as she's driving. The thinking being that this was a subliminal way of getting the audience to feel Janet Leigh's sense of trepidation about the prospect of getting caught after having stolen the money. But when Tarantino does it, it's meant to call attention to itself, which is a kind of meta film reference like all the others in his films.

Thank you, it was bugging me!

Yeah think so too. Res Dogs isn't far behind. I'm quite partial to inglorious Basterds too, some daring stuff in that movie.

I think Jackie Brown is his "best" film, if not necessarily my favorite.

And so does noone else in the world. *joke* I think, Pulp is still my favorite. The western/slavery movie impressed me tho.

Reservoir is such an ugly, grim movie filled with people howling in agony from various wounds. The Chris Penn character is such a repulsive, arrogant narcissist, and there are really no likeable characters that I can recall.

It so impressed you that you cannot recall what it was called (Django Unchained).

I know I'm a year late so I apologize, but was going to comment on that scene from True Romance when he said he believed this was Walkens best performance.

It wasn't really Walken's best performance but it certainly was Dennis Hopper's.

@@spoonman73 " I haven't killed anyone since 1984 "

Bruce Willis's greatest feat in acting was Die Hard

@@spoonman73 Ikr! Christopher Walken in Dead Zone or King of New York, anytime.

NPC man bad

@Gren Wren Has it ever occurred to you that maybe people who make movies for a living don't have the best political acumen?

@Gren Wren Obama was literally further right than reagan on everything but healthcare and gay rights

@K Ren i don't understand your comment. do you like Tarantino's politics or think he's a sheep?

Mr Wolf drives a Japanese car as well.

I've always found Vincent's ineptitude fascinating. Nearly everything he does ends up causing him and the people around him, a great deal of pain and suffering, yet on the surface, he's Mr Cool. I'm not sure if that was done on purpose or not, but it's a fun little nugget to point out.

Agree --- more then just the insult, it was watching marcellus and vincent greet each other conveying their feelings about butch that he's just trash/expendable ....that's what lit butch's anger/rage.

Butch keys the car?! Fantastic

@@kahnjimmy81 Acura NSX is technically American.

*Camaro

Also there’s another yellow car in the background in the shot of Marcellus when he looks up and sees it’s Butch in the car

How? Where/when?

@@unstopable96 Outside of the bar when Butch and Vince have words before Butch's meeting with Marsellus

lol I was going to post a comment like that......

I thought something similar. Butch was a kind of fighter (a boxer) but he wasn't, as far as we know, a soldier. His character wasn't forged by the struggle of war. Until the ordeal with Marsellus, where he infiltrates his home while it's under enemy surveillance (as if it was an enemy base), fights and kills an enemy soldier posted there (Vincent), runs into and then evades and outwits Marsellus who is literally shooting at him, gets captured and imprisoned by an even worse enemy, escapes his captors, and returns to rescue Marsellus ("leave none behind") ... all of which is similar to some military mission where you could easily be shot, or perhaps captured and imprisoned for years in hellish conditions. It was his "war watch" and going back to retrieve the watch put him into a war, just as if he'd been drafted. He could have slunk away like a thief with the money he'd won from Marsellus, and just left the watch. But he was at his core a fighter, like his forefathers, so he was compelled to take the more honorable path. As you said, it becomes the war story he will tell the next son in the family line.

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The Losers released on video as Nam's Angels is a 1970 American biker war film directed by Jack Starrett.

yeah recently i've been watching all kinda movies and documentaries about the 70s and those colors were everywhere back then.. on couches, on wall paper, tables and chairs...etc..etc Alot of greens too.

I think a lot is the type of film too. Some types of films pick up light in different ways. For example: Kodachrome. In today’s production it would be a filter.

@@0oidiedinatimemachineo024 Yes! Kitchen appliances came in colors with names such as Avocado Green and Harvest Gold.

Also, in Kill Bill, yellow features prominently, both for Uma Thurman's stylized Bruce Lee type outfit, and on the movie poster itself. I wonder if yellow is a reference to Asian films and people, and Quentin Tarantino's homage to classic old samurai films, like The Seven Samurai.

I thought something similar. Earth tones like mustard yellow/orange/brown were big in the 70s and Tarantino does love the 70s. Those colors give things a 70s look. This makes sense in Butch's childhood home, where the scene literally takes place in the early 70s. But Tarantino uses these color schemes even in the present-day scenes, as if the 70s never quite ended. Also do you remember what cereal Lance was eating when Vincent came over with Mia? Lance was eating Fruit Brute, a big GM-monster cereal in the same line as Frankenberry and Count Chocula, except unlike the others it was discontinued in the 70s (Yummy Mummy was another). I think they've brought it back recently, but in the early 90s when Tarantino made the movie, Fruit Brute wouldn't have been widely available (if at all).

Jonny Wilson Absolutely. It’s just simply great film making. I always loved how happy & shit he was and how minute and mundane the act of throwing a couple pop tarts in the toaster thinking he was safe at that point. It’s so routine I almost always miss when he does it.

Jonny Wilson that’s what I thought. When he checks on him in the bathroom he looks like “oh shit”

Yeah maybe even saying the toaster dinging triggers his instinct to react much like a boxer waits for the bell to commence the fight, far reach but worth identifying.

Word. That book v.v. was reading is Modesty Blaise.

@@chocopuffs9161 Holy shit! I think you are right on. The Tarts pop, the bell rings, Butch's instinct is to "come out swinging". I've seen this movie twenty times and I'll never look at that scene the same again.

How do you know that it is one and not the other? How do you know that it isn't referencing both meanings at once?

Edward Welsch I always understood it to mean a boxer whose job it is to lose. Such boxers are important to agents for padding their client's records, so they can get higher value fights. Brando got a one-way ticket to Palookaville for this reason.

Texocracy Because the term palooka is an insult that predates the comic, and it’s a perjorative, whereas the comic is about a hero, which doesn’t make sense given the context. Why would Vincent refer to Butch as an obscure comic hero, rather than a common term for a crappy boxer?

Edward Welsch The comic named their hero after a pejorative term in order to invoke irony, establishing the hero as an underdog. A washed up boxer who can still go out and fight the Nazis. He's a war hero too, which fits in with the aesthetic of Butch and his family. So the word palooka will invoke all of its concurrent meanings (washed up boxer and the comic book hero). Vincent may have meant a washed up boxer, but to say that Tarantino who wrote the dialogue wasn't simultaneously invoking the heroic comic connotation of the word to the audience would be an assumptive guess. Being that Tarantino has encyclopedic pop culture knowledge, why would you believe he was unaware of this comic? If he is aware of it, then his use of the word can only be an intentional invokation of all of its potential meanings, especially given its unique relevance to the character of Butch.

chrisrus1965 I can see that, however I think the more accurate name for those guys who fight as stepping stones for better opponents are “journeymen” or (disrespectfully) “tomato cans.” I’ve been in gyms in the U.S. where older guys jokingly or self-deprecatingly use “palooka” to mean a boxer who is past his prime. Webster’s however says that it just means generally an unskilled boxer, even a rookie. In any case, there are some palooka journeymen, but not every journeyman is a palooka.

His dead father no less

but did he clean his room?

You sound like a couple of lobsters

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I think butchs fave is half lit because hes betraying himself. I thnk he made his mind up to dishonor marsellus when he saw wallace n vincent being chummy

How's the political situation in Morocco? Not too many terrorist attacks I trust?

Chris Wright here things are pretty tight , there hasn't been terrorist attacks for a really long time . They always get people plotting to do sometimes and put them in jail .

Yeah the gimp is clearly dead, hard to tell if it was the punch or hanging. Butch clearly has deadly hands and its a bare knuckle punch from a very upset Butch.

They deserved it - in fact they were mercy kills ( except for the one that the mob boss shot ). They were all guilty of multiple source serious criminally indictable offences which could have very well led to a lengthy prison sentence so basically butch should have just escaped the hock shop and dialed emergency services so them dopes including the bad security guard could spend the rest of their lives locked up behind bars in the slammer

I’ve wondered about that as well. Marcellus let’s Butch go for saving him but what was Marcellus’ reaction when he later found out that Butch machined-gunned Vincent? We know Marcellus really liked Vince and liked/trusted him enough to chaperone his woman while he was out of town.

Also a butterfly on young Butch’s living room wall.

Good question, as Marcellus didn’t know Vincent was dead. But it would’ve been interesting to see his reaction when he found out.

Yeah I noticed that. Didn't put it in the vid as wasn't too convinced, but glad to see someone else noticed it too.

I noticed that as well, but i guess Tarantino would have used the black/red/white colors, if he wanted to make that connection.

Also the locker room where Butch wakes up from his dream has a light overhead that has a metal guard, that looks like the hands of a wtch.

True, but that Confederate flag in the front made me think of General Lee

True it's a pawn shop. Does that ruin the clear connections to the original purchase of the watch for you?

Isn't the pawn shop just a perversion of the hardworking/down-to-earth general store? This is true in general, since pawn shops often have predatory business practices and are more likely to deal in unscrupulous wares not used for an honest life; while general stores (in pop culture) sell honest goods like dried grains, fabric, etc. And clearly the specific pawn shop in the movie is truly perverted.

I think the pawn shop was just supposed to be a sleazy location for this type of shit to occur

I copied and pasted this comment from above because I never thought of it this way and possibly answers your question. if original posters name doesn't show for some reson I will edit it in. Everlastingphelps 4 months ago It's not a general store -- it's a pawn shop. A pawn shop is a place where you hand over your things -- your legacy, your memories -- in order to get cash now. Butch had been forced by Marcellus to hand over his legacy, his pride, and when he double-crossed him, he made new debts. When he went back to get the watch, he was buying back his legacy -- paying off his debt to his father. Now he's at the pawn shop to pay off his debt to Marcellus. A pawn shop is a place where you incur debts -- and repay them to regain what is properly yours. Or, in failure, you never repay your debt, and you lose your rights to your property. 12

Apparently, according to Tarantino he did die.

That’s what you’d think, but there was another Bruce Willis movie where a dude was hanging from his neck unconscious and you know how that turned out…

@@GNo03 Is the movie Sin City?

And there's played a tune by The Revels entitled "Comanche," a name that comes from the Ute word for enemy,

I'd say, that the knockout killed him. Because they broadcasted it on the radio. If some goons dragged him in a cellar somewhere, the radio guys wouldn't know it shortly after the fight.

The way Butch reacted when he heard Wilson died, I think it was not his intent.

Just some thoughts on your comment: Butch didn't mean to kill Floyd or Vincent. Vincent didn't mean to shoot Marvin, either. He did mean to kill Butch. Possibly adding to the religious theme: the man in the bathroom meant to kill Jules and Vincent; Jules took the hint and decided to move on with his life. Presumably he's still alive.

Yeah he is still alive, walking the earth, meeting people, getting into adventures. Like Kane in Kung Fu.

Butch looks at the gun after he shoots Vincent like he can't believe what just happened. Think about how many times Vincent walks out of the bathroom into a life and death situation. Namely, the diner to find a standoff between Jules, Ringo, and Honeybunny. Walks out to find Mia smoking his cigarettes, snorting his heroin and wearing his coat. Death was looking for him ever since the dude, came out of the bathroom shooting at him and Jules. Jules got the message, Vincent didn't. Butch was just caught up in the mix.

Butch must've wondered what it would've been like had Vincent got the drop and "toasted" him first... the gravity of the situation, the absolute ownership of the victim, the look on the victim's face. Like looking in a mirror.

I always saw it as Butch does not give a fuck. He is a cold dude. He's not a cruel or malevolent person but shooting Vincent to death, who he knows is a killer for Marcellus? He doesn't give a shit about him. It's like the boxing match, he's not crying over somebody who stepped up to the plate and lost their dinner. If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen lol.

"chopper" is also what gangsters will call, typically, an AK47 - the standard issue rifle of the NVA, but I could be reaching here

just a side note about vincent and his drug use: Heroin makes people constipated, so that could explain why he seems to spend a lot of time sitting on the toilet. He truly is an Elvis man haha (tho i don't think Elvis was a heroin user, but he was definitely a drug user)

@@conorobrien1025 Constipation is just one among MANY reasons to stay away from it!

Walken? Yeah, I REALLY want to see him in a role that just kills it in a movie, the guy's got talent coming out... EVERYWHERE. Like, what Heath did with Joker I want to see Walken do something to that standard. I have no doubt he CAN do it, it's just a matter of the right script and the right director. There a few more angles to it but as far as I know about the business (which isn't much) those two are the biggest factors to how a performance is viewed in the final product.

handsomebrick Oh, I see what you did there. : )

I dont think it's ever confirmed in the film

He probably did it right after the meeting with Marsellus. Vincent probably got his car before they met back up at the bar.

There are two pop tarts, and there are two men. The pop tarts have hard exteriors, as do the men. The pop tarts are filled with creamy goodness, you follow me? Butch's choices and Vince's choices brought them to that spot, and neither can escape. The toaster is life, and when it pops, you have no choice, it's time to draw.

Well played. Rob mentions as well that Butch maybe "knocked up" his girlfriend.

Fort Knox is also where the United States *gold* reserves are stored. There ya go!

Just looking at a picture of Knoxville and theyve got a tower with a huge gold ball on top of it. it's pretty prominent. I wonder what it is, what it symbolises?

Ever hear of the College of hard Knocks? Knoxville could be a place where you take hard knocks. People who come from there are fighters and warriors.

@@LooseCharm ~ and guess what was the case?

Where the french involved in that?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France%E2%80%93Vietnam_relations#Indochina_war_and_Vietnamese_independence_(1954)

Thx. I think the plantation people in apocalypse now were french as well. Makes sense.

If Scotty didn't pay he'd risk Butch passing on the word to Masrsellus as to who has the money.

I hadn't considered that possibility, which would be quite a threat to Scotty even if he were to flee all the way to Indochina. Thanks for another great video and the extra insight!

Most likely Marcellus would take the money and turn on Butch in that hypothetical situation; probably to send Jules off with a retirement nest egg, as he walked the earth like Kane in Kung-foo.