real life needs to be balanced

If you ran a suppressor on any shooting game with no draw backs, everyone on the damn game would run a suppressor.

from this to a rotary specialist with a AWD 4 rotor FD, amazing

Saw this in my recommended and was like "isn't this the crazy rotary bastard who swapped his vette?"

Real life is a pay to win game I'm deleting this app

1:36 I was waiting for Bond to walk by and shoot.

Attachment: Silencer + Don't show on minimap when firing + 10% Faster bullet velocity - 20% Vertical recoil + 40% Damage

from this to burning out AWD 4 rotor rx-7 im not even mad i'm amazed

You'd usually use subsonics with surrpresor. Hence the enhanced bullet drop

As a game developer myself talking about #1. To my knowledge bullet drop/decreased range is done on silenced weapons as a balancing mechanic. something that is silent, doesnt appear on radar, etc is pretty overpowered if you can use it at long range. So its not that we got it "wrong" just that we want to keep it fair. Ya hear me?

I even use suppressors on grenade launchers

Simple. Guns without a suppressor use supersonic ammo. Guns with a suppressor use subsonic ammo. Supersonic ammo with a suppressor isn't all that quiet as the crack of the bullet will be very obviously a gunshot. Subsonic ammo is much quieter at the cost of bullet velocity (range/damage). There's your answer.

Reason why it's okay to say "silencers" is because the man that originally invented it called it a silencer.

what if i dont use supressor in real live wil i show up on mini map or not ? 24-7-2021 stil get like ( 5k ) and people comment 😊

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The bullet drop / reduced accuracy / reduced damage are added for balancing purposes. The real life issue with suppressors is they increase the weapon lenght making them less practical to handle or putting a short firearm into a holster. In games this isn't an issue since the player just pulls all his guns out of his ass.

This was the first rob dahm video I watched and now I watch all of his rotary Corvette videos

I think the bullet drop and reduced velocity is to represent the use of subsonic ammo. Which although isn't required to use in a suppressed weapon, is still preferred for sound reduction.

So why ever remove the suppressor? It seems like it just has benefits and no drawbacks.

Seeing MW2 gameplay almost brought a tear to my eye.

Gun that does 500 damage *_puts on a silencer_* Gun does 50 damage now, your welcome

Silencers in Rainbow six siege: -20% Damage -50% Range And BlackBeard will nerf...

liked the video but when you were talking about recoil your point wouldve been driven a lot deeper if you had a recording of the same gun in slow motion without the suppressor

Just add a fake russian accent, shoot tannerite, and you will have millions of subscribers ;)

*puts silencers in the title *

If you equip suppressor in BF games it also switches from supersonic to subsonic ammunition, pretty sure it's explained in the description of the items. This means less range, more bullet drop and less kinetic energy.

When I was younger I thought suppressors were soft

The drop in BF3 is supposed to be attributed to using sub-sonic ammo as to not cause a sonic boom.

This guy sounds so passionate and like he's having fun how can you dislike something like this?

Next video, Rob turns all his guns in to 8 rotor silent 3000 hp submarine.

Respectfully, Mass times velocity does NOT equal the energy behind a projectile. The formula for Kinetic Energy (KE) is KE=1/2mass times velocity^2. Kinetic Energy basically means the amount of moving energy a projectile has.

Its fucking simple. Video games dont get it wrong, they do it so that it has drawbacks to use it, because otherwise it would be overpowered as fuck.. 🙄

What did this just get recommended to me? I just want to see more of this man's massive 4 rotary.

They make the bullets drop because you usually use subsonic ammo in a suppressor for them to be quite

"its a supressor not a silencer" "3 THINGS Video Games get wrong about Silencers."

Boi, suppressed weapons in battlefield are meant to mimic weapons uisng SUB SONIC ammunition. The bullets drop more because their velocity is decreased, meaning that gravity has more time to take effect. This is also why some weapons have a damage penalty, less velocity.

There's something new we learn everyday & thanks to this video, I actually learned more about gun suppressors than expected. In fairness, I haven't even used a combat gun outside videogames🧠🎞

I hope video game companies see this video and fix the mistakes they made in the future, I also had these issues with video games.

I even use supressor in rpgs lol

My one gripe about this video: What if game designers just take into account that you'd use *subsonic* ammunition with suppressors? Subs make suppressors more effective at making the gun quiet, and the reduced velocity/increased bullet weight would increase bullet drop and affect the "damage."

The reason why the bullet drop is more pronounced in battlefield is that they're simulating cold loaded (subsonic ammo), no crack when the bullet fires means less noise but also less propellent for the round.

from guns that go "BANG BANG BANG" to rotary that screams "BRAP BANG PSSS STUTUTUTU BRAAPPP BANG"

how does a bullet travel faster with a suppressor when bullets for suppressors are subsonic and are designed to be slower in order to not break the sound barrier

You say "suppressors" Title says "silencers" *triggered*

Intro sounds like you just beatboxed into a fan

The colt 1911 uses the browning style of recoil, like most modern pistols. AAC's Ti-rant suppressors use that spring to mitigate the rocking action the barrel makes in order to cycle the gun. The ASAP spring does not help reduce recoil. In fact the opposite. Great video. I too was a little depressed with my suppressor purchase. Still hella fun.

But i thought a proper suppressed gun has a subsonic cartridge. Because the sonic crack from The bullet would defeat the point of a suppressor. So wouldn't it be slower?

Regarding "bullet drop": Your barrel may be longer, giving the bullet more way to accelerate. BUT: The noise suppression of the muzzle-bang is only one part of suppressing the weapon as a whole, used by special forces. Regular bullets generate a supersonic-bang while flying through the air, allowing bystanders to notice them quite clearly and even pinpoint the shooter. To cancel out that effect, subsonic ("cold loaded" ?) bullets are used to stay below that magic velocity. With the lower velocity and equal bullet mass a higher bullet drop may occur on longer distances. This even disproves your energy thought. IF however you use the same ammunition in your suppressed gun, you won't notice that effect....

This is a side of Rob I never knew existed, and i love it

I almost forgot that you did some gun content I mainly know you from your builds. Love it

you forgot the most important misconception. the fact that in most videogames you can shoot a suppressed pistol in a room and the guards in the room next to it will not notice. hahah even the pin hitting (without a bullet in the chamber) is loud enough to startle a person and make him question what was that sound, it's clearly impossible to fire a suppressed gun in a room, or outside, and not being heard within a radius of at least 100 meters

The drop comes from the fact that the round MUST be sub sonic. Either wise, the crack of the round would give you away when firing the suppressor, so the round would be slower.

I just cried with you a day ago over UPS losing your clutch and then I find this. Dude.. what the..?

The worst thing is killing stealthly people with silencer/supressor. You can hear it. It is not muted. And enemies are like: "nahh, thats nothing" and they should hear the gun going off

i thought BF reason for increased bullet drop was due to "cold loaded" ammunition, less powder as to keep the round at subsonic velocities when you take the supressor....

You forgot noise, in games it sounds like a tiny "pew pew" which is not at all what it actually sounds like

I think the reason why there’s more bullet drop in bf3 is because they’re using subsonic rounds as well, as you would if you’re really trying to make your gun quiet

Feels weird to see rob in this video after watching all the 4 rotor videos

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to think that the same guy today making gun videos would be the guy to build history in itself (the 4 rotor) just boggles my mind keep the work up rob I doubt you will see this but for everyone else to see I love cars and I absolutely respect what Rob has done building a full-on time attack car basically in a garage with nothing but himself and some friends that just insane great job rob keep the work up!

Dang, Rob.....you done come up a long way. From video games to giving the Hoonicorn all it wants. Props, yo.

in video games they need to put some negative aspects to a supressor/silencer. otherwise everybody would use it.

The thing I hate most about suppressors in video games is that THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR OWN HEALTH BAR, METAL GEAR!

In pubg pc/mobile you have a suppressor,so it doesn't suppress the sound of a gun but you can still hear the gun goes off and know that it suppressor attached

This was actually one of the most interesting things I've ever watched on you tube

Okay let me explain, why in games a suppressor decreases the damage, whereas in real life it actually increases. The thing is that if a player what's to be less loud or in a way silent he will use a suppressor, but if a suppressor also increased the damage, then it will be a win win situation for the player.What the game designers what is that if the player wants to silent and sneaky that he will have to choose the suppressor in exchange with less damage, but if he what's more damage to kill his enemy quickly then his has to give away the sneaky technique and be loud and vulnerable by giving away his position. So it is to test their decision making skill.

To make it clear video game developers gives disadvantage with suppressor to make its advantage of not showing on minimap even. So that gameplay can be balanced.👍🏻👍🏻

Battlefield links the suppressor attachment to low velocity bullets (explained in the description). Less powder causes less noise (also slower bullets) which increases the sound "suppressing". That's what is causing the damage decrease and bullet drop increase. I think only R6S reflects the recoil improvement properly atm.

Calling a SILENCER a “Suppressor” is equivalent to calling a WHEELIE a “manual” 😂

The entire idea is that the suppressors are paired with subsonic ammunition. (Less velocity, more drop, no sonic boom, etc)

I like the ideas in this video, but I do have some things to point out. It might be a bit of a long one. While I'm sure other people have stated this already, you should know that your first and third issues are only true if the gun is using standard ammunition with the silencer, which is very uncommon. Firstly, what is typically used is something called subsonic rounds. This is a round with a significantly lesser powder load. This is intended to lower the velocity of the round to, well, subsonic speeds. This means that it goes slower than the speed of sound, because a great deal of the sound that comes from a gun firing is from the sonic boom created by the bullet. This would mean that the bullet drop would in fact be greater, because it would take longer for the bullet to get to its target, allowing more downwards acceleration by gravity. However, this makes your second point far more accurate, as a lower powder load always means less recoil. Your third point about damage is also not strictly incorrect. Yes, the barrel would give it more time to accelerate, but it with the lower powder load, it would not be significant enough to counteract it. This would overall give it less energy, but this is not necessarily a bad thing. An often used round for stealth operations in special forces is a .22 caliber subsonic round. The reason it is used is due to the fact that it has such a low velocity. At close enough ranges (a few dozen meters) it has enough energy to pierce the skull, but not enough to exit out the other side. This causes it to bounce off the other side of the skull, and further tear up the brain, ensuring a quick and quiet kill. In addition, bullets with lower velocities are more likely to remain inside a person's body, causing more damage in the long run. Anyways, sorry for the long comment, but that was bugging me a little. If there's anything I got wrong, please feel free to correct me!

Definitely understand. And developers understand. But they have to add pros and cons to using the attachment. For example it’s “quieter” and you don’t appear on the enemies map. If the suppressor had less noise. More velocity. Less recoil. And all that everyone would use it all the time. So it’s all a balancing thing.

Damn rob this video is why I subed to u. I can’t believe it’s been 2 years already and who knew at the time I was subing to a car Chanel lol but I’m so glad I did.

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Bullet drop in video games is not because of the suppressor. In one game (i think bf3) they pointed out that bullet drop is added due to low velocity bullets used when you put on a suppressor on your gun for making even less noise and for better reliabilty of the suppressor itself.

In BF3 weapon customization screen it is written that when you use suppressor you also use subsonic ammo.

yea the suppressor bullet drop has made me crazy for years, the only thing i can think of is that they do it to balance the gun + silence - accuracy

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In Black Ops 4 they seemed to have fixed it. It reduces recoil a bit and doesn't take away from the range of the bullet.

Crazy as it sounds, PUBG got suppressors almost right.

Video games put -range on suppressors in game because of attachment balancing.

I'm pretty sure videogames did this on purpose. Because in real life, supressors deal more damage and makes the shots quiet. Video game developers wouldn't want this, because then everyone in the game would use supressors and nothing else. That just makes it pointless to even add an option for no supressors because everyone would just use supressors anyway. They wanted to make a sort of cost for having your shots be quiet, so that not everyone would use supressors in the game. They made it that way so that having your gun without supressors is still a viable option. In simpler words, they wanted it to be balanced.

So that's why the Barrett E95F2 has a supressed barel already build in the gun Wich leaves space for a muzzle brake. Good to know

It's funny three years ago I watched this and loved the video and now I have rediscovered your channel because of my possibly unhealthy obsession with rotory engines

The only way to get less 'damage' and more bullet drop is if you were to cycle sub-sonic ammo.... which you could shoot with or without a silencer/suppressor.

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i love being an engineer and watching people explain things.... its like...yall get it basically right...but for the wrong reasons

Mass x Velocity is momentum, not energy. Energy (kinetic) is (1/2) x Mass x Velocity^2

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You could assume that in video games they use subsonic ammunition (because you do not hear the crack of the bullet going super sonic because there is less powder therefore going slower) which would cause more bullet drop and do less damage

I forget how damn smart Rob is

The spring system is called a Nilsen device and without it, you won't load the next round on many pistols. Also, the first round through a suppressor is always louder unless it is a wet silencer. This the reason when on operations, you usually piss into the silencer so the first round does not have the louder "crack". *tips from a machinist who makes suppressors.

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This man went back 8 years 🤣🤣 the nostalgia