Robert Greene on the Wisdom of the Stoics

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How do you view your life with objectivity?
Ryan Holiday talks to bestselling author Robert Greene about the importance of understanding, processing, and observing your emotions, our natural tendency as humans to take the path of least resistance, how to deal with anxiety by viewing situations objectively, working on his new book about the laws of the sublime, and more.
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Robert Greene is an American author known for his books on strategy, power, and seduction. He has written six international bestsellers: The 48 Laws of Power, The Art of Seduction, The 33 Strategies of War, The 50th Law, Mastery, and The Laws of Human Nature. His new book The Daily Laws: 366 Meditations on Power, Seduction, Mastery, Strategy, and Human Nature is a daily devotional designed to help you seize your destiny.
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@privateequityguy 2 жыл бұрын

*Every family has a legend who breaks all odds, I believe that is you reading this*

@Weightitpackitcountitstackit 2 жыл бұрын

yes it is

@youtubedestroyedmylife309 2 жыл бұрын

ghey

@ravishoul1432 2 жыл бұрын

Stop the pressure

@bettermanchannel770 2 жыл бұрын

Well that's all cuddly and sweet

@privateequityguy 2 жыл бұрын

@@bettermanchannel770 Gotcha:=)

@callmekeef1165 10 ай бұрын

“We suffer more in imagination than in reality” that just changed my life

@IsaacJoshi 2 жыл бұрын

*To all dreamers out there, don't ever let the world's negativity disenchant you or your spirit. If your surround yourself with love and with right people, Anything is possible.* *Good luck friend!*

@Bingbang.1 2 жыл бұрын

Let us also not forget god. May god guide us all to righteousness, amen.

@Caffein780 2 жыл бұрын

Finding good friends isn't easy.

@leelavathich4589 2 жыл бұрын

👏super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

@CesarSantosLopezYolo 2 жыл бұрын

I've never liked this kind of toxic positivity atmosphere... There are several studies that show pessimism is also a good thing... Don't let yourself be absorbed by this type of thoughts but be self-critical and rational.

@MrZERK7 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant, thank you for having Robert so frequently He certainly is full of wisdom

@VaynerSpeakers 2 жыл бұрын

💯

@leelavathich4589 2 жыл бұрын

super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

@bellakrinkle9381 Жыл бұрын

Netflix "Borgen" is a good example of the techniques Greene discusses here. It's a practiced skill and worth learning. I just finished the entire series and loved it.

@kareemchareef Жыл бұрын

@@VaynerSpeakers uuuuiuu out uuuuu

@acajudi100 8 ай бұрын

I was blessed to be raised as a child to have morals and common sense. You rock Mr. Green.

@danielduarte2139 2 жыл бұрын

"It's resistance that make us stronger". Thank you, Robert, for this one. As when we are working out, as in life when we face a problem, it's resistance that makes us stronger. Why do we seek resistance in one scenario and run away from it in the other?

@rogeliorodriguez8518 2 жыл бұрын

This is so true. I used to be agreeable but have slowly started tilting more towards being disagreeable unless I'm proved wrong. That resistance was uncomfortable at first.

@johnyoung6680 Жыл бұрын

So absolutely profound.

@gracefitzgerald2227 2 жыл бұрын

Someone told me use both their daily meditations for insight. I’ve incorporated each antidote into my AM journal. I’m a month in and I feel like I’m winning every day. How could I loose with these two to help gear me up for the day. ❤️

@hightop_4819 2 жыл бұрын

These are the only 2 authors I read from, I'm with you on that

@andypeterson6165 2 жыл бұрын

What an awesome attitude. Keep going!!!

@StefanieSpencer 2 жыл бұрын

Me too! I read the daily pages for each every morning!

@gracefitzgerald2227 2 жыл бұрын

@@StefanieSpencer yay!! That’s fantastic!

@gracefitzgerald2227 2 жыл бұрын

@@andypeterson6165 😊❤️

@sylquin-wright3640 2 жыл бұрын

Such an honour & privilege to witness these two great wise writers Robert Greene & Ryan Holiday together in the same room, discussing the elegant virtues of stoicism as a creed for our times. Gratitude+++🙏💙

@denismaftei691 5 ай бұрын

Ryan dont now nothing man

@HenryHale 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Ryan and Mr. Greene for the education I receive every time we are graced with your wisdom. This is the Stoa of KZfaq.

@VaynerSpeakers 2 жыл бұрын

🙌

@leelavathich4589 2 жыл бұрын

👍super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

@carlosraymundomartinezesq3396 Жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed this conversation. I do feel like the anti-vax sentiment has not aged that well. We should definitely be sympathetic to these people. In my lifetime I have seen big pharma wreak havoc and death with the opioid crisis. I’ve lost people to it myself. That crisis was %100 the fault of big pharma. I’d say that’s good reason to treat people with kindness end empathy who are suspicious of the vaccine. Also, the studies can’t be released for 50 years and what we have seen has been heavily heavily redacted. You are them, they are you. You taught me that.

@norrell35 10 ай бұрын

The anti Vax sentiment has aged very well. "We have to live with these people," he said. Both of them should be ashamed and never allowed to forget what they've wrought on society. A banishment from the public square is the only acceptable fate.

@barbarahutchinson956 7 ай бұрын

Thank you for your comment. We are all here trying to learn and be better. I did not agree with the covid vaccine or the many boosters, (especially when government and employers tried to force you) but do not consider myself anti-vaccine at all. Getting words of wisdom from people who don't think like you is a great learning experience on how you handle things. It was a very good conversation.

@littleangel18 11 ай бұрын

Two great men informing the world on how to cope better w life’s adversities

@travishawk9627 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve combined the daily stoic and daily laws into my new journaling habit, and I often look forward to journal on both of their thoughts.

@TyAWilkins 2 жыл бұрын

Been doing the same!

@leelavathich4589 2 жыл бұрын

👍super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

@000glen 2 жыл бұрын

What’s your journaling habit?

@FrancoPhysique 2 жыл бұрын

My two favorite people in the same room! Thank you!

@VaynerSpeakers 2 жыл бұрын

💯

@hannahyingzi 9 ай бұрын

This man is pure gold, started to appreciate him after I turning 34

@KBradAdams Жыл бұрын

The Queensberry rules of boxing!

@anthonyspivey6958 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Ryan, “To be free of passion yet full of love” stood out to me as well. If you recall the sentence before that Marcus said “not to display anger or other emotions”. So what I think it means is if you’re angry at something you don’t allow yourself to go into a rage(passion) , but you’re still fully aware of how you feel (love). Another example, in romance, passion would be infatuation with the other person whereas love would be a clear on your desire for the other person. In summary I believe he is referring to an Aristotelian mean in a very poetic an eloquent fashion. -Thankyou

@WickedIndigo Жыл бұрын

Loved this analysis, wish you the best🙏

@bladeandrifle838 Жыл бұрын

What a privilege to be able to sit in on this conversation with y'all. Thanks for the upload.

@axel_enelcamino 2 жыл бұрын

Even that he's way older than most of us he has more life in his eyes than many young people living today

@YoungCisto 2 жыл бұрын

Watching these 2 legends is like watching a sensei and student discussing..

@running4fun863 5 ай бұрын

Robert Greene is so amazing, I love everything he says .

@mdeniegas 2 жыл бұрын

i love ryan holiday, his books helps me calm the inner storms brought by hostile working enviroment but i also love the wisdoms of robert greene he speaks for all of us, us who was abused ,bullied in the office politics, he wears our shoes ,he breathes the air we breathe upon working with good and bad people., the exposure, the experience ,he summed that up in this books , for someone who had been alot of jobs and expose to different people the wisdom on how to deal with them is priceless

@SODEKA987 2 жыл бұрын

Two best friends talking about their best favorite topic in the world. What a wonderful conversation. !Thanks for sharing.

@azanianprince274 Жыл бұрын

26:18 that's why I appreciate Robert so much he constantly engages ideas and is not a yes man

@taylorjanegreen1 Жыл бұрын

PS - In particular the shows regarding “Monarch programming” as well as the Brad Olson interview. Very eye-opening stuff to consider regarding being conscious and aware of what is around us and facing fear. Thank you guys for your awesome work.

@thecookiechannel7083 11 ай бұрын

Thank you for providing a glimpse of sanity on KZfaq.

@samuelbekko7644 2 ай бұрын

Great Conversation. I enjoyed every bit of it.

@Ramenko1 2 жыл бұрын

One of the best Robert Greene interviews

@chaddickerson1887 Жыл бұрын

This interview is like a class on how to be an oblivious hypocrite, by Bob Verde.

@cocaleaf2358 Жыл бұрын

A Robert Greene & Ryan Holiday podcast/interview/conversation must happen again‼️ Love listening to Robert talk to his most prolific student. And sharing it with an audience is just a privilege, very grateful to be able to witness this.

@ameer4686 2 жыл бұрын

Over come your fear and move forward wisdom is godly ✨

@warlordpriest1 Жыл бұрын

“The circumstances are totally neutral.” Hard to get to that point, but…That’s a huge piece!

@gergosnoo 2 жыл бұрын

Ryan, I watched your tiktok about Robert's 48 Rules of Power a week ago and decided that will be my book for W4 and now after finishing the book, this talk came out on KZfaq. Everything you do resonates with me and thanks for your contribution in the world. You guys are great inspiration and made me rethink how I act in this world and how to be a better person I was yesterday.

@Caffein780 2 жыл бұрын

Two great minds melding, it's awesome. I am grateful that you two exist in my time line.

@leelavathich4589 2 жыл бұрын

super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

@nicolaspalacios7083 2 жыл бұрын

4:30 is life a boxing match? 18:59 you can't expect an utopia 24:54 the problem with humans 1:00:31 how did Robert's near death experience changed him?

@blackbird3382 2 жыл бұрын

This episode is so great. Thank you guys.

@ShahabAhmad1398 2 жыл бұрын

How can you be grateful for the things you don't like? That you wish didn't happen? Ryan here I am shedding tears at the beauty of this concept. It hit me hard.

@leelavathich4589 2 жыл бұрын

super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

@selmen9240 2 жыл бұрын

Very insightful and instructive! Thank you for sharing with us.

@susanclare5475 2 жыл бұрын

I think the Boxing Rules are called "Queensbury Rules" . I literally cannot believe I can tell my 2 favourite writers something, after they have taught me an unbelievable amount about so many things!

@Dude0000 Жыл бұрын

Marquess of Queensbury who’s son was the lover of Oscar Wilde, for whom the good Marquess hated with a passion. True story.

@ivanm9180 2 жыл бұрын

This is awesome! Always great when these two come together

@luigipati3815 2 жыл бұрын

Greene is right, Musashi is amazing....the book written by Wilson I could not put down, incredible story

@johnalbert5786 2 жыл бұрын

Yoshikawa book on Musashi the best.

@piratenLjos Жыл бұрын

Top 10 duos of all time

@alancortez8350 2 жыл бұрын

I want to push back on what robert said about interview preparation, and having a plan in general. What works for me a lot is indifference with confidence. If you understand that thing does not matter(indifference) and that you’re a capable(confidence) it usually goes well. Look you’re not going to be 10/10 in your life, but as long as you’re scoring you can still be playing. 6/10 without stress and anticipation is soo much better

@leelavathich4589 2 жыл бұрын

super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

@jaxxenriquez9542 2 жыл бұрын

I just discovered your page and instantly signed up for the daily morning emails. I look forward to incorporating to my routine. Thank You! :)

@christycaseda 4 ай бұрын

Amazing right?

@lackshubalasubramaniam7311 2 жыл бұрын

Great advise. Especially for situations in the workplace.

@The1scooter 2 жыл бұрын

I wish i had more time to listen to all of this. Fortunately Ryan puts out shorts that help his teachings digest able in small bites too.

@raginald7mars408 2 жыл бұрын

... as a German Biologist - more than 10 years ago - I saw the first Videos of Greene - with his BULGING neck veins - and I wondered - is this a sure sign of a Stroke to come. So sad this then happened. He is the most adorable, wonderful humble person I can think of.

@slikdiszsouljahr 2 жыл бұрын

Warum hat ihn niemand gewarnt

@raginald7mars408 2 жыл бұрын

@Whispery Banalization. Greene created a horrible STRESS himself to do the super human work. He did long distance swimming - which is mostly anaerobic. He had Stress Molecules in his Blood all the time. This leads to Blood clotting. Paradox. Only with this Lifestyle he was able to CREATE. When we do all to live healthy - we may create too much Stress to stay healthy - Greene is so stubborn - he does not listen to any advice... this killed Steve Jobs...

@samsohn Жыл бұрын

Best interview ever Ryan! Thank you.

@walk_with_cactus_pete Жыл бұрын

Amazing mental stimulation being projected from these two.

@sarajohn6855 2 жыл бұрын

Every word Robert says resonates so deeply with me. He articulates so well. What an outstanding individual. Thank you 🙏

@pawelkarbowski3622 2 жыл бұрын

What an engaging video! Thanks for this inspiring and thoughtful conversation.

@leelavathich4589 2 жыл бұрын

super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

@NewGoldenEraRap Жыл бұрын

Thank you both ❤

@Santiino 2 жыл бұрын

Such a deep interesting conversation. So much to learn love you two ;)

@SharkOrDie 2 жыл бұрын

Knowledge, Wisdom, & Understanding

@milesgreen1430 Жыл бұрын

It is The Marquess of Queensbury Rules...Sirs... Enjoyable dialogue...

@JM-zi4in 2 жыл бұрын

I needed this. Thank you

@connorbryan8189 2 жыл бұрын

Loved the mention of Mushashi. In a lot of ways I think he could be considered an Eastern Stoic

@dentalgrowthmx 2 жыл бұрын

read the vagabond manga, amazing artwork, it's a fictional interpretation of Miyamoto's life and development as a human beign

@connorbryan8189 2 жыл бұрын

@@dentalgrowthmx oh I loved every page of it. It’s now my 2nd favorite ever, only to Berserk.

@leelavathich4589 2 жыл бұрын

👍super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

@aaronwimberleymbamsf5776 2 жыл бұрын

Great meditation to start the day=]

@superchops5150 Жыл бұрын

I find this so reassuring!

@m.vonhollen6673 10 ай бұрын

Both men seemed more ready to impart their lessons than to absorb the other’s lessons.

@kkszwarc 2 жыл бұрын

Surviving is winning!

@rodrigodiaz9472 2 жыл бұрын

Robert Greene is a master

@joan3891 10 ай бұрын

I love these convos! 🙏🏼👍

@cv4853 2 жыл бұрын

this video is great, i hope you guys make more videos like this

@leelavathich4589 2 жыл бұрын

👌super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

@gghhiiyy456 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your podcasts. I am a new listener and shared some with friends. I was thinking the same thing:there’s an icky sweetness to the smell

@j.c.dhalla8352 2 жыл бұрын

Great talk!

@MintStateMarshall 2 жыл бұрын

I've bought all your books... Never will again

@soar_dfuzr7514 2 жыл бұрын

Why not? And whose books ur talking bout

@idaloup6721 2 жыл бұрын

My practice of stoicism enabled me to harness my emotions as a tool like an actor and then put them away in a draw. A bit cynical maybe but freeing. I realized that the emotions I used to feel were mostly those of others, a manipulation, energetic vampires but not what I felt whatsoever. There are collective emotions which are very sneaky because they embroil you forcibly. Stoicism and discernment is the same, It's all about the supraconsciousness and I say supra because the consciousnesse can be altered by everything we see in the media etc... But the supraconsciousness is unadulterated. It's this part of you that is not in the body, you can call it spirit guide, that knows what's beyond the veil. Gratitude 🙏

@idaloup6721 Жыл бұрын

@Sk9epx It's not something that you can explain. It's an experience to be lived individually once you intend to break away from the 3D consciousness which is a manipulation in order to keep you in a mental jail. Don't give your consent and live this experience like an actor in a movie knowing that you are more than that on a spiritual level

@jwilsss 2 жыл бұрын

Best episode yet! Thank you for bringing these to us 🧡

@anisboucheneb736 2 жыл бұрын

I would dream for a mentor like Robert Greene

@blazelandusa 8 ай бұрын

I’m one year late to this video. But do not fall asleep on the Buffalo Bills. Sean McDermott has some superior discipline himself, keep up the great work. I’m grateful to find you. Oh & Go Bills! 👊😊

@bigmig5015 2 жыл бұрын

Such a great conversation! So many great insights. As a beginning stoic I do notice it’s hard to almost become narcissistic about the world and others who are not…mainly because this way of thinking is so much so on a higher level of thinking than the majority of this ultimately primal world.

@leelavathich4589 2 жыл бұрын

super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

@jameskeating4719 11 ай бұрын

Thank you

@gabe13hunt 2 жыл бұрын

I see great potential in you, keep on going.

@lisaammerman9846 8 ай бұрын

I wish I'd been taught this.... I was young and found life very rough but taught not to defend myself but that conflict was not normal and meant that there was something wrong with me

@EddyBuchi 2 жыл бұрын

28:00 On Empathy and leads to loving who your emphasising with reminds me of the book "Enders Game" where he talks about knowing his enemy so closely he couldn't help but love them...

@jamiemason7924 2 жыл бұрын

Very valuable wisdom here

@leelavathich4589 2 жыл бұрын

👌super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

@abramisme Жыл бұрын

ok ok another book i am buying lol this was awesome!!!

@taylorjanegreen1 Жыл бұрын

Awesome conversation. Thank you! Would love you guys to explore the culture and reality that these guys are exploring: “journey to truth podcast”. Go team!

@IsaacJoshi 2 жыл бұрын

*no one deserves success more than this channel keen to see your continued growth!* *You've got this :)*

@nishantshakya5706 9 ай бұрын

I'm greatful for youtube, Im greatful for the internet, Im greatful to be alive. Thank you

@a.bogdanenko8309 2 жыл бұрын

As always very pragmatic/rational/wise Peace🌎

@leelavathich4589 2 жыл бұрын

👌super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

@masonaguirre4064 Жыл бұрын

Great video

@hugomarx6479 2 жыл бұрын

Highly recommend : Be water my friend - Shannon Lee Life changing book

@earthangel8596 2 жыл бұрын

As a child around the age of 5-6 I would have a dream about being in darkness but not Scary. I felt totally content, like waiting my turn. It was dark so that juxtaposition always was odd and noticeable to me because as a child everything that's dark is kind of scary. , and I would snap from the darkness to like the form of a circle and the circle would begin rolling along (I'm viewing it from like a one-dimensional view) ... the circle would speed up and get out of control which would cause the line to wobble in destroy itself. The dream would allow me to start the circle over again, when I did I was conscious of slowing the circle down kept the circle in control without getting its lines scribbled about. But once you took your focus off of the circle sped up and crashed. I always reflected on the feeling of peace and serenity I experienced those times as a child dreaming that particular dream. Try to put myself back there.

@NovaaGrind Жыл бұрын

This helps me with my empty hole I'm trying to fill in. Wholesome

@anbusiness5368 Жыл бұрын

One of the best 🤩

@Zenothemaximalist 2 жыл бұрын

thanks alot!

@leelavathich4589 2 жыл бұрын

super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

@trucking7373 2 жыл бұрын

Very informative

@Somewhere-In-AZ Жыл бұрын

27:28 (I know this post is a year old, but this thought may be relevant to someone). You’re talking about love and it reminded me of a recent conversation. The jest of it was about what “real” love is. My sister insisted it was an emotion. I argued that it requires ignoring your emotions. Love is an action. You are able to DO something when everything in you wants to run away. Think of it this way. Your baby has just ruined his diaper and it’s EVERYWHERE. Your instinct is NOT to clean up the mess. But you do. And you smile and make the baby comfortable and happy. You don’t act angry or put out. You DO what needs to be done. That’s love.

@steveg8102 2 жыл бұрын

Stoicism and hardcore punk rock are the keys to a happy life.

@aaroncirilo77 2 жыл бұрын

topic was good but the shade thrown at ppl that disagree with them politically or with vax was disappointing but i guess even the elites don't practice what they preach.

@cbillings85 2 жыл бұрын

Don't expect them to be perfect at what they preach.

@acajudi100 8 ай бұрын

RIP everyone everywhere. In disasters, the body is destroyed, but the soul is released and with us forever. This will pass folks for all of us. Stay strong and ready to defend yourselves alway, if the need arrives. Listen to Marcus Aurelius for your mental help. Stoicism rocks. All of them. Celibacy rocks ladies. Close your legs, mouth and sleep on your back alone. Never shack. I married at 27 and 31, and was a virgin. I never shacked, and I married. First hubby was 8 years older and the second husband was 22 years older, and he died at 67 of a heart attack. We had one daughter, that I raised from conception at age 37. I worked for my income , and my life never depended on a man. I had plenty platonic friends all over the world, and I was raised to have morals. I thank my great grandparents, who raised me to care for my body, and do not be a whore, or have a baby out of wedlock.

@FrancesSchagen Жыл бұрын

You can't have more empathy/support/ability to help for someone than they have for themselves.

@dar1948 Жыл бұрын

Whould be interesting to hear Greene's opinion on COVID 19 vaccination now, when the evidence of their harm are becoming hard to ignore

@jonargentina6285 Жыл бұрын

"Get Ur billy gates update" ~ yours, Bob.

@deandred712 10 ай бұрын

Wht evidence are you talking about

@dougmetcalf3720 Жыл бұрын

Looks like you retrofit your LaSportiva shoes with Salomon lacing system. I’m the only person I’ve known to ever do this, glad to see there are others who have seen the light!

@burgcarli929 Жыл бұрын

Modern society makes it tougher and tougher to use Stoicism in handling the life's difficulties. Through social media, lives and reputations can be irrevocably damaged. There is no philosophy that can mitigate this reality.

@ladrenloqueladrenlosdemas 2 жыл бұрын

Increible

@DJRAJEE 2 жыл бұрын

Good video

@leelavathich4589 2 жыл бұрын

👌super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

@quarantinekitchen6909 2 жыл бұрын

Ryan your questions are off…. Weird and you seem like a snob. Mr green is a treasure

@brittbanz4512 Жыл бұрын

I've just been searching substantial videos on KZfaq to feel more productive and feel good about how i spend my time as a 22 year old. This is my first exploration to Stoicism and I didn't even know the word before watching this. Though I'm not that well versed with the philosophies and inspirational people you mentioned, it is amazing how I could still grasp what you were trying to say. I feel that could really understand your points from my own perspective. I'm grateful to have come across this video. I learned a lot and the video was fruitful the entire duration. Thank You!