True shit. Daft Punk even once said "Never make music on MDMA - or high - because EVERYTHING sounds fucking good"

Medical help is available. Just not from me.

Aja is an awesome piece of work.

Steely Dan is incredibly boring. A Handful of songs that actually move.

agree. both are great records

Aja is good but still overrated imo.

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@@RobertFithen hey Robert nice to meet you, just subscribed. What is the name of the Zappa channel you mention?

@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories kzfaq.info

It's not that he is unpretentious, it's that he has bad taste. That Donald Fagen album is very good (albeit dated sound) at least lyrically and I love the opening synth chords, the Van Morrison album is just stellar lyrically and sonically and shows Vans "detached" vocal style. Aja was a move away from rock n' roll and Wayne Shorter even makes an appearance. I agree, from a music consumer perspective, Pet Sounds is over-rated but according to an old school music arranger and producer we used to know(1970s?) from England, he said Pet Sounds was hugely influential -but mostly for the other producers - who nicked many techniques, don't ask me what as I don't know, and he said for a rock/pop album the chord, harmonies, and vocal arrangements are on another level. But lyrically, it appears like a simple pop album. He said even back then him and his colleagues considered some of Brian's stuff simply genius.

@@turntablesrockmyworld9315 Geez, and I even EXPLAINED what an opinion was at the beginning. Oh well.

I agree, I always want to hear people bash Queen (one of my favourite bands). But when it happens it's always just surface level stuff they rag on. They don't really dig deep into what they really hate about them. It's rather dissapointing, imo.

@@blutryforce762 I don't hate Queen, but I think they are hugely overrated.

@@andyboerger I agree, they are overrated. Especially with how much "We Will Rock You" and "We are the Champions" get played, I know people who like Queen but never want to hear those songs ever again. One thing I don't like about Queen is that their live releases are absolute garbage, messing up the mastering by making it all congested, pitch correcting Freddie's voice and overdubbing everything. Their are loads of live bootlegs you can find on KZfaq and they sound incredible, better than anything Queen Productions has released.

Loved this ... Everything he says about Dylan is spot on . Gets it totally wrong on Astral Weeks tho !

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I'll second that. Those first 3 minutes are blisteringly good. I'm in! ✌️

Or maybe he's just being a contrarian asshole.

I like it as well as well as Veedon Fleece

This video was killing me!!🤯 Aja is Easily one of my "Dessert Island albums" and Astral Weeks is my FAVORITE album ever and I had never even heard it until I was in my early thirties!!🤯🤣🤣

Yeah, the best part of Astral Weeks isn't even Van Morrison! It's the backup musicians!

What's even cooler is the fact that it was recorded in 2 days.

Van Morrison’s voice is absolutely grating.

lol Great comment!

That’s my thought exactly, they were spoofing a typical jazz album. Nothing about SD should be taken too seriously. The record company president was probably in on the joke.

yes tho ----- something going on there methinks !

Interesting about the sleeve notes.. tongue inncheek? I don’t use use outer sleeves either.

Nope...I just think Steely Dan were pretentious assholes.

That actually makes sense. Seems like a self-aware joke. If I had gotten this vinyl, I would have been extremely confused as I'm not a jazz head and wouldn't have known this.

Steely Dan is incredibly boring. A Handful of songs that actually move.

I put on Aja when I am getting dressed for a wedding. Gets me in the mood for a pretentious, boring, scripted evening.Sorry...Aja blows.

I agree with OP. Hysterical. The liner notes ARE a huge circle jerk. However, the album is so insanely great that you can (almost) understand why.

I don't think there's a band or artist on earth I hate more than Steely Dan/Donald Fagen. There's just nothing there but goofiness... every time I hear them I just start hating humanity. But, tastes vary, I reckon, sometimes widely. :)

Katy Lied is their best album.

same mythologizing of the Velvet Underground's first album. It sold far less than even Pet Sounds, but is now considered one of, if not THE, most influential rock albums of all time. And yet, what do we have if we strip away the myth? An album where the last two songs are complete wastes of time and gratingly annoying. A 'masterpiece' (Heroin) that keeps repeating itself so it could be about half as long, and a handful of wonderful songs, half of which are TRULY groundbreaking and the other half placed well within the work of their contemporaries. Are Sunday Morning and Femme Fatale ahead of their time? Not at all. I remember once where a RS critic said 'The Velvet Underground invented the 70s'. This is nonsense. Led Zeppelin 'invented' the 70s if you are going to pin it down to one group. Jimmy Page's concept of 'light and shade' influenced way more music of that decade than the experimental avant garde amateurism of the VU.

Dylan can sing when he wants to. Nashville Skyline proved that. But his singing voice was hilariously horrible on the Traveling Wilburys track "Congratulations"! 😂😂 That song is one of my favorite tracks on "Volume 1".

Lay Lady Lay is one of his best, but "Knockin' On Heaven's Door" is another great easy relaxed Dylan vocal, not one where he's trying to "do Bob Dylan" - he just is Bob Dylan.

What about his ascent voice?

Decent....Sorry, I've never liked Dylan's voice.

@@davidmartin1455 I don't get off on being a pedant, but I totally agree with your comment about Dylan.

Thanks! Negativity is usually more entertaining. lol

The group's song called " Here Today, Gone Tomorrow" From the album Mandrill Is.

Robert, people usually think that is a saying but The Wilson Brothers wrote that song.

Was she Asian like the girl on the cover, by chance?

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Pet Sounds is not as bad as Smile and Smiley Smile, so I will give it that. On a separate note, Good Vibrations is a fantastic record by The Wrecking Crew, even better than most of their Monkees stuff.

@Beau Lijah The electric jug was a nuisance, for sure. Why they allowed that is beyond my understanding.

@Beau Lijah You're Gonna Miss Me is also the name of a very well-done documentary about Roky Erickson. Very insightful and quite sad at times (the guy had some serious mental issues). Netflix has it---I recommend!

Also, here's me not biting my tongue haha! I pretty much stuck to my Mum and Dad's collection growing up (AC/DC, Eagles, Motorhead, Fleetwood Mac, Rush etc) so I had a perception of both groups that was only based on their early work. The Beatles were just white guys playing watered down R&B music, The Beach Boys were white guys playing similar music, set to the theme of a surfing trend. Because of these perception issues (psychologist would have a field day), I never really explored either until I decided to listen to every Beatles album back to back over a couple of days. I actually couldn't even believe it! The progression felt subtle enough between each record to follow their process along in a logical way, but the difference between early and late stuff is unbelievable. It never occurred to me to skip down the timeline to listen to some of the later works for some reason, and I felt like both (and all) their eras complemented each other. From then on, and still now, if you suggest me an artist to check out, I start from the beginning and work all the way up their studio albums. This is exactly what happened with the Beach Boys. I always heard they were 'The American Beatles' so wanted to do the same for their albums too. And yes, I did listen through alllllll of them eventually, whether I wanted to or not haha! I feel their early stuff is the same as the Beatles in many ways, boy meets girl etc, empty lyrics with no real meaning. The first time I heard Pet Sounds I had to really stop what I was doing and follow the words along. Caroline No and I Just Wasn't Made... are as poignant and thought provoking as Help!, Girl or most of those mid-era Beatles bits. The words just really resonated me at that particular time, feeling like a child out of time... From there it lead me to listen to both the acapella and instrumental versions of Pet Sounds, and really opened the doors for critical listening. Tuning your ear into different instruments playing their separate parts, and then re-listening to the work as a whole and hearing how they all work together. The same with vocal harmony, which I have to say, is my favourite thing about any and all music regardless of genre. The way different voices sound together is just magical. So the short version is, I both blame and praise Pet Sounds for a perception shift in my brain. Not only for critical listening to music (which has allowed me to re-listen to all my favourite records again for the first time) but for a newly found love for discovering records I've set to one side without giving a chance.

Ladies and Gentlemen, the man who made me dislike Frank Zappa! lol

Many of the people obsessing are big artist themselves

Pet Sounds fanatics/ Beach Boys fanatics are like Beatles fanatics. Forever loved by overweight hippies who are still stoned and have zero fashion sense.

I never bought the lp until the 90s And I must say it's a great LP ,I listened on my own terms,it's not best LP ever but a very good one ,in my opinion Never mind the bollocks is probably the the best rock LP I've ever heard,🇬🇧

I’ve always thought so. A few great tunes. Otherwise typical BB.

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It's an electric jug. No joke, they're a psychedelic jug band. I like them, but totally understand why others don't

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Yeah but what about those of us that didn’t grow up at the beach & who don’t love surfing ??? Yeah, exactly. THE Most Over-Rated Album Of All Time.

It isnt even about surfing though

@@morrits3969 No but they ARE surfers.

@@morrits3969 im talking about the Beach Boys in general. I know that specific album isn’t about surfing but they are synonymous with surf culture and their music is so ubiquitous in beach towns in California.

I love that album too, and quite a few others here. He’s just hilariously angry. Embrace it, enjoy it, and don’t take it too seriously. He’s great.

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It's nice to know some people still have a sense of humor.

That actually makes sense and sounds believable.

What a review. I love alternate takes on albums that people have long gushed and fawned over. I got Pet Sounds as well and really didnt get they hype....

"London Calling" would make an incredible single disc.

Yes, please!

London Calling? No you can't.

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I think Lou Reed hated everything at one point!

I love R.E.M. Not sure what struck you wrong with their music.

If it's REM 24/7, send me to hell!

Exactly

If that's the Rykodisc CD transfer of Uncle Meat, then it won't help that it's a horrible sounding disc. Headache-inducing, despite Frank himself being at the helm. But the later CD issues are wonderful. As is the vinyl release. Probably won't convert anyone who isn't a fan, but it might help people in the middle form a more positive opinion of this 'challenging' album : ) Great video. Thanks!

After your long rant, Pet Sounds still sucks.

@@johnnyd63 I bought the "Pet Sounds" album**, and later the single with "God Only Knows" and "Wouldn't It Be Nice" on each side. I played "Pet Sounds" about five times over the last few years, but the single a lot more. Apart from the two great tracks and the great cover song (which I already had as a single), I thought the rest was filler. ** Because I read that Paul McCartney had given each of his children a copy of the album because he believed that nobody's musical education is complete until they've heard Pet Sounds.

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SMILE wasn't even released so it must have been so much better than Pet Sounds that it would have disrupted the space time continuum if it came out in the 60s. [literally a fire broke out a few blocks away while they were recording a song about fire and Brian Wilson's drug paranoia decided it was an omen and not just a coincidence and that's why he shelved the project lol)

They are both considered masterpieces because they are great pieces of art. I mean, some of the best producing and songwriting ever.

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God Only Knows, besides being Paul McCartney's favourite song, is one I adore. Check out the Manhattan Transfer's two covers of it. They are astoundingly beautiful.

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Music is subjective? Hence, the "you may love but I don't" in the video title.

@@RobertFithen understood :)

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I disagree that Some Girls sucks--I think it's one of their best. They became too hit and miss after that one.

@@davidl570 "I disagree that Some Girls sucks--I think it's one of their best. They became too hit and miss after that one." I was being cheeky. I was breaking our host's balls, by dumping on Some Girls, after he praised it, and I was slobbering over Easter Everywhere, after he complained about it. I actually agree with his assessments.

@@NoEgg4u Whoops! r/WHOOSH for me! Okay, I get what you mean now! (Although to be fair, that album still has its detractors--I'm not one of them though).

i did enjoy the fresh take. But the vinyl IS pretentious artwork. Not sure if it was intended to be parody in the first place though...apparently the "humor" was missed on some of us lol. I agree actually that they had a missed opportunity to include more artwork. I did like Deacon Blues..but yeah...lyric wise...the album isnt their strongest. But then again i never really listened to Steely Dan...or Kiss for lyrics.😂

I must add: I had only heard the 13th Floor Elevators' debut album. Right now I'm listening "Easter Everywhere" and I'm laughing even harder! 🤣

I played trout mask replica for a girl I liked. I still remember the look of horror

I prefer Zappa Plays Zappa, if that's any indication of how I feel about it all.

Thanks for mentioning Rolling Stone, influence on popular culture was vast-and harmful. That's because what they mostly did for many years was to spotlight & hype (over & over) a small list of mainstream big-budget acts (many of whom the founder/publisher was pals with) while consistently ignoring innovative music on small labels. Repeatedly overhyping the same celebrities while repeatedly ignoring innovative & fresh talent-that was their gig. Rolling Stone taught me that if you wish to be surprised by an art form you must ignore the mainstream "authorities" & search & experience things for yourself. (If Zappa was overrated, he was, being a cult figure, overrated on such a small scale that he couldn't be as annoying as others-he didn't clog up the airwaves (or Rolling Stone). For that reason, I tend to be more annoyed by acts like, say, Bon Jovi or Pat Benatar.)

The Association has some great album tracks beyond their singles.

Tha Association is good but get real!

Same here. My ears weren't ready for it. Once I developed my symphonic ear, I came to love it.

Pet Sounds was great because the Beach Boys finally stopped singing about surfing and hot rods. The six albums that followed are excellent as well.

That's hilarious about Van Morrison. McCartney, Oh my God, those poor children! Where was Dept. of Child & Family Services?

I've heard about the bins thing recently, obviously not a new trend lol

Does an unopened album really exist? 11th floor?

The lyrics and vocal harmonies of Pet Sounds are appealing.

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And here’s what Pet Sounds influenced: Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band. (Without Rubber Soul and Revolver, there would be no Pet Sounds, and therefore no Pet Sounds, no Sgt. Pepper.)

I believe I went over all of that in the video (or maybe it was a different video). The main point was the extremely suspicious fact that "Pet Sounds" never moves from the #2 spot on RS Top Albums, while EVERY OTHER album goes up and down the numbers. Somehow, "Pet Sounds" remains firmly in place. From what I have learned Jann Wenner is behind this. There is an unconfirmed popular rumor (which is why I didn't mention it, specifically) that it is one of a very low number of albums that he actually owns part of and gets a cut of sale. This is why he also was part of the creation of that box set. People can like it personally, but there's no denying it has quite an overblown history.

Oh and please listen to Gaucho and let's hear your opinion!!