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Episode 21 and a half...... Deep dive into the ignition system problem on our 420cc EFI build

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Robot Cantina

Robot Cantina

3 жыл бұрын

In episode 21 and a half, Jimbo takes the time to explain the ignition system problem and MORE!
Robot Cantina
P.O. BOX 392
Michigan Center, Mi 49254
Check out Episode 19 for more information on the EFI kit
Check out Episode 21 for more information on the EFI kit
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@mid1551
@mid1551 3 жыл бұрын
made sense in the first video to me 😁
@chriscoralAloha
@chriscoralAloha 3 жыл бұрын
This episode should be called . Once again for the kids in the back.
@AlexR_44
@AlexR_44 3 жыл бұрын
LOL actually legitimately enjoyed a real out loud laugh, kudos. Then remembered real quick I often re-watch stuff because I spent too much time goofin off in the back of class. 😂😥😁
@zirconia21
@zirconia21 3 жыл бұрын
As my Dad would say, "Sounds like you got some bad gas." My Dad wasn't great with cars.
@peterhealy545
@peterhealy545 3 жыл бұрын
Kangaroo petrol as it’s called in Scotland
@2flyabove
@2flyabove 3 жыл бұрын
Robot Cantina, you're not lazy.... you're being eco-friendly by not spending your energy needlessly.
@joshnabours9102
@joshnabours9102 3 жыл бұрын
I like the way you think.
@PatrickKQ4HBD
@PatrickKQ4HBD 3 жыл бұрын
He's efficient!
@AaronBonBarron
@AaronBonBarron 3 жыл бұрын
Not to take away from the EE, but I am most impressed by the consistency in your voiceovers!
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Video production and voice overs are all new to me and I'm still learning.
@buckstarchaser2376
@buckstarchaser2376 3 жыл бұрын
@@robotcantina8957 I thought you were trying to generate the same flavor as Jafromobile. Speaking of which... When can we expect a port and polish session video?
@TechGorilla1987
@TechGorilla1987 3 жыл бұрын
@2:31 - "The problem is actually two-fold." Don't ya mean TWO POLED. I'll see myself out.
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 3 жыл бұрын
EPIC!
@chriso1373
@chriso1373 3 жыл бұрын
Baaahahaha
@DaivG
@DaivG 3 жыл бұрын
That sneak peak has got me on the edge of my seat!
@jafferm1938
@jafferm1938 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for the turbo too!!!!
@byrondixon4648
@byrondixon4648 3 жыл бұрын
SAME!
@slantedperspective
@slantedperspective 3 жыл бұрын
I like how you over explain , helps my 2 working brain cells
@mcss327
@mcss327 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome job on troubleshooting, and even better job on not getting sucked into "over complicating" an already intricate area of the project. I'm a huge fan of the "k.i.s.s." methodology myself. 👍
@Domestic_Tedster
@Domestic_Tedster 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s go! What a great video to start the day off!
@johnfreeman2956
@johnfreeman2956 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite part about this video is the attentiveness to the comment section. Thank you for this build, and I truly appreciate all the time you put into your videos. Things like this really hit the giggle switch for me, so I love seeing it. Personally, in a world where computers are removing humans from the process, I find myself leaning more and more towards analog cars. This build is pretty analog lol, even with the EFI addition. Edit: hit-and-miss engine swap when LOL?
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 3 жыл бұрын
We are just having some fun and want the audience to be able to enjoy the series as much as possible.
@bentleyoakguy
@bentleyoakguy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the clarification! You have are in my top 5 channels now!
@5loaves2fish93
@5loaves2fish93 3 жыл бұрын
I have no idea about almost anything you are doing, but I love watching you do it!
@deeiks12
@deeiks12 3 жыл бұрын
Thats awesome that you actually read our comments and answer us in videos. Keep it up. And a super cool build!
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@802Garage
@802Garage 3 жыл бұрын
I'm excited to see the EFI system up and running. :)
@joemiller6278
@joemiller6278 3 жыл бұрын
I learned that polarity mattered when the magnets flew out of the electronic distributor on our old VW. When I put them back in it had a miss to it. Figuring that out felt humbly rewarding.
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 3 жыл бұрын
perfect example of making a mistake and learning from it. well done!
@dangerousdave5915
@dangerousdave5915 3 жыл бұрын
My Doctor said I have a field leak also! Now I know what he was talking about! Thank you!
@mtdualie1039
@mtdualie1039 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for clearing up what happened. I would have come down in the "just build a signal inverter" crowd but the double trigger from the leaky magnet put that to rest. I like your solution!
@toto29620
@toto29620 3 жыл бұрын
A solution could be to use a counter or a d latch to delay the on signal by one pulse.
@Doktoreq
@Doktoreq 3 жыл бұрын
@@toto29620 Use 4017 as decade counter reseting every second pulse maybe?
@Doktoreq
@Doktoreq 3 жыл бұрын
@Alfred Wedmore The timer will start at wrong pulse when the first pulse is out, engine rotate wrong way or you have so much noise in the system that it wouldn't work anyway. In either case you're looking at more serious problems. And why the hell do you need a microcontroller with a timer do count pulses - there are just two pulses: falling edge, raising edge, falling edge and raising edge again. The simple timer will do this without noticeable delay (somewhere in ns range) and doesn't require any code. The microcontroller requires writing code which is strictly deterministic - the output have to have precise delay or all your engine timing gets out of whack. Also why are you talking about camshaft sensor? Is this some "fancy" 4 cylinder engine with full sequential injection that requires that?
@Doktoreq
@Doktoreq 3 жыл бұрын
@Alfred Wedmore For my purposes I would probably use simple delay timer (555 circuit most likely) triggered of cranking signal to delay enabling of 4017 counter by some ms in case the engine stopped with HALL sensor between two magnetic spots. Tie 1st output of 4017 to the ECU input, tie 2nd output to the reset pin and IC triggers on 1st pulse resets on second. I don't talk about noise in the system cause if there is enough noise to trip counter IC it would most likely fool ECU presented in the video without counter IC. Also I know that sticking magnet on camshaft is best solution but I'm not considering it because it's not a solution used on this channel. It was stated in episode 21 video around 8:25 mark (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z7pogMxkzJ2XaGQ.html) the collar with a magnet was placed on a CRANKSHAFT. Either ECU have some way of sorting itself out (via intake pulse or something) or have problems running because it will try to squirt fuel and fire every 360 degrees instead required 720. It will try to fire on the intake stroke and squirt fuel at the combustion stroke so I suspect running rich and firing into intake.
@RC-fu6hg
@RC-fu6hg 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent description of the proximity sensor. I’ve used them before in testing but I like the optical sensors.
@xzkt
@xzkt 3 жыл бұрын
I have found this video series very interesting to watch. Can't wait to see future episodes. Thanks for sharing. Phil
@cullenmiller8170
@cullenmiller8170 3 жыл бұрын
The start up of the car gets me every time. I m so used to car engine sounds and hearing basically a lawnmower throws my brain off. I guess my eyeballs don’t believe what they are hearing. 🤣🤣
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 3 жыл бұрын
The electric starter sounds weird, but peoples eyes pop out of their skulls when I use the pull starter.
@cullenmiller8170
@cullenmiller8170 3 жыл бұрын
@@robotcantina8957 To bad you can't put a crank on it and crank start it like in the good old days.
@brbk4498
@brbk4498 3 жыл бұрын
Good old KZfaq algorithm. Giving me some good content. Awesome videos
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@josipbalaban783
@josipbalaban783 3 жыл бұрын
I was recommending the inverter, thanks for making this follow up to point out that wouldn't be possible
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 3 жыл бұрын
No problem 👍
@TTMR1986
@TTMR1986 3 жыл бұрын
Now we can see a real Honda owner driving around with a laptop on the seat! Also it was clear to me in the original edit, but most folks don't work on engines daily either.
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 3 жыл бұрын
Danger to manifold! LOL
@Sevalecan
@Sevalecan 3 жыл бұрын
As an EE, it was apparent that your understanding of electronics was much better than most. Also hello from a few cities north in the same state.
@BonesMcoy
@BonesMcoy 3 жыл бұрын
Very quickly became one of my favorite channels!
@anidiotinaracingcar4874
@anidiotinaracingcar4874 3 жыл бұрын
I've got other ideas popping out of my head but after checking my KZfaq handle one more time, think it's best I keep them for myself
@joshsadowski8869
@joshsadowski8869 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for keeping the project within reach of your viewers. If I have anything to say about this mini episode is how you want to move forward with failures. I personally am excited to see if that magnet fails. But seriously, you have a hard balance that you have to feel comfortable with as a docu-tainment style. You are teaching science and get the ability to just say "were gonna slap a turbo on this thing and get 20 extra hp out of it" and average viewers would be just as happy. Look at this is the challenge of your script writing. I personally like your format, but re-edits show your doubt in your content. Keep up the good work. You got this.
@rogerherring772
@rogerherring772 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for keeping things within the realm of possibilities for some of us knuckle draggers. 🍺🤠👍
@MrJeepinZeke
@MrJeepinZeke 3 жыл бұрын
What a tease! Thanks for the clarifications.
@CriticoolHit
@CriticoolHit 3 жыл бұрын
Neodymium heat issues are real and once it's done it's done. I suspect anything in the engine bay even the coolest item on the warmest day furthest from the the engine is too hot. They really don't withstand the heat. source: I have a whole bunch and use them in projects like you do. One time I used one to hold a piece of paper to a hot plate and by the time the plate hit 150F the magnet was done.
@yann3336
@yann3336 3 жыл бұрын
I have the feeling that this channel is going places, really good explanations to the problems encountered 👍👍👍
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 3 жыл бұрын
Hope so!
@mickfitz76
@mickfitz76 3 жыл бұрын
I like the sneak peak of the rough idling engine. Means more modifying.
@bleepbloopblahp
@bleepbloopblahp 3 жыл бұрын
Now see what you need to do is.... keep up the great work. Can't wait to see how you solve the issues and get that engine firing. Great content and presentation. Thumbs up!
@MatthewBerginGarage
@MatthewBerginGarage 3 жыл бұрын
As a fellow sparky that was a great explanation. I think your solution was nicely done. The heat shouldn't be an issue as the spot you placed the magnet shouldn't get too hot.
@Roalethiago
@Roalethiago 3 жыл бұрын
You addressed my concerns, when a magnet is heated it looses its magnetic properties, the temperature which it will loose its properties depends a little on the grade of the magnet and so but its usually from 80°C to 100°C. Hope this info helps a bit.
@BaronRosenhein
@BaronRosenhein 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see a picture of the source code of a web blog written with php. I understand it's just a demonstration purpose only. Most likely the kit you have is a cut-down version based on speeduino. In any case, that "sneak pic" is illegal. You can't possibly expect us to sleep at night after seeing that. Or maybe you do? Can't wait for another great informative video.
@chadfarris4465
@chadfarris4465 3 жыл бұрын
I love these videos!!! I can’t wait for the 22hp predator motor build!!! I’m wanting to put a 22hp in a rear wheel drive BMW and run it in a long distance race hopefully setting a record. 😁😁
@handyhippie6548
@handyhippie6548 3 жыл бұрын
the ease and familiarity with which you described how the fuel injection system works was a hint and a half that you were in the electronics field. when you said you don't know how people work on electronics without an oscilloscope was the clincher. most people don't even know what an oscilloscope is, let alone how to use one. then not only did you realize the system wouldn't work as you planned without having to try it first, but came up with an elegant solution to the problem. it didn't take sherlock holmes to point out they are all signs of a highly skilled electrical engineer. obviously, building complicated go karts is just a hobby to pass the time when you're not solving some problem that would have the rest of us sitting in a corner hugging our knees and rocking back and forth with mental overload.
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I'm so glad to be able to share my projects with such a great audience.
@anasevi9456
@anasevi9456 3 жыл бұрын
Still good work on the bypass, if the neodymium magnet fails, just get a SmCo magnet, they are pricier but a few that size should be cheap enough.
@PatrickKQ4HBD
@PatrickKQ4HBD 3 жыл бұрын
I just discovered Speeddueno standalone open source engine management. It looks promising, and supports between one and eight cylinders.
@joehall1114
@joehall1114 3 жыл бұрын
Yep made perfect sense to me as to why you going about the solution you were. Can't wait till the next episode.
@digitalchaos1980
@digitalchaos1980 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome sneak peak to the next episode! It almost sounded like it was loping, like it has a mean cam in it lol. I cannot wait to see the result though!
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 3 жыл бұрын
I still have to do some more tweaking in the setup, but I believe what is happening is the automatic enrichment on start is way to rich. The engine soothes out after a few more seconds.... but after all it was a sneak peek
@digitalchaos1980
@digitalchaos1980 3 жыл бұрын
@@robotcantina8957 That sounds about right though! Like you I am also an electronics nerd, and am a gearhead too. This project is really fun, but I know the little issues can be irritating. You'll get it man, I know ya will. 😎
@jetjazz05
@jetjazz05 3 жыл бұрын
@@digitalchaos1980 Its like fixing a car, there's always one bolt you spend an hour messing with and it's so irritating lol
@davidwostrel
@davidwostrel 3 жыл бұрын
Suprised it was not more obvious to folks that was the issue in 21... Meh. Keep em coming and dont let anyone harass you about taking your time.
@ex-engineer6657
@ex-engineer6657 2 жыл бұрын
Your o-scopes looked very familiar. Good stuff. I miss my old Fluke meters.
@ferrumignis
@ferrumignis 3 жыл бұрын
The curie point of neodymium magnets is around 608F/320C. If they get that hot you have bigger problems to deal with!
@ronpierson5141
@ronpierson5141 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for keeping us updated.
@bengineering3d
@bengineering3d 3 жыл бұрын
I was concerned that you might lose timing accuracy going with a smaller radius collar as opposed to the larger diameter flywheel flagging the sensor but it seems to work great! Let’s see what it can do now!
@TEDodd
@TEDodd 3 жыл бұрын
As long as the collar stays put you can tweak the timing in the code. If the code says 22.5 and it's actually 21.75 doesn't really matter as long as the offset stays consistent in the table. Much Luke manually tuning a distributor, what matters is how it runs, nor the exact placement. One engine might like more or less advance so you tune to the motor not some calculation. The calculation just give you a good starting point. Same here. The placement of the collar/trigger get yiy a starting point. The you tweak for the engine/application.
@joblessalex
@joblessalex 3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to say you won't overheat the magnet as well. They need to be pretty hot, like cylinder head or exhaust hot. Seems well enough isolated that you should be fine. But hey, only one way to find out!
@gmeister03
@gmeister03 3 жыл бұрын
Little updates are cool. And you went over exactly what I was thinking with the heat issue. Although I don’t think it’ll get hot enough to destroy the magnetism.
@tjlingram
@tjlingram 3 жыл бұрын
Awww I was hopping it was part 22. Ah well. Still pretty interesting as even I thought to myself why not change out the magnet or change out the fly wheel. Anywho great video!
@bosh6604
@bosh6604 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos SO much, cant wait for the results
@mrrhody7234
@mrrhody7234 3 жыл бұрын
Something to watch before i sleep!
@FieroFats
@FieroFats 3 жыл бұрын
Ditto.
@BenModified
@BenModified 3 жыл бұрын
I was just headed out the door when this popped up...guess I'm going to be 5 minutes and 7 seconds late.
@markrenfrow9873
@markrenfrow9873 3 жыл бұрын
Good video! Quoting Bachman Turner Overdrive, "Let it roll, down the highway!"
@thedude7726
@thedude7726 3 жыл бұрын
This is awesome! Please make longer videos!
@burtmcgurt3584
@burtmcgurt3584 3 жыл бұрын
NICE! Can't wait for the next video:)
@Robb403
@Robb403 3 жыл бұрын
Considering the mass of the metal ring you are mounting the neodymium magnet in plus the sensitivity of the Hall effect sensor, I don't think heating will be a problem. There are plenty of other things that could go wrong long before that would have any impact. Engines that are pushed beyond their maximum intended output don't last that long anyway. So, It's not worth worrying about.
@Revoku
@Revoku 3 жыл бұрын
the magnet you used will be fine, I made a hall effect sensor circuit and triggering setup for an old 3 cylinder engine, it ran for years, the temp the crank gets to on the outside of the your engine is below max operating temp typically for the magnet(76-83C), and even if it gets above, the sensor you are using is so sensitive that even in a heat weakened state the magnet would do the job for years regardless. the piece of old garbage 3 cylinder I did up has the magnets in a much worse heat exposed area than you have them, and they have been running/working well for 10 years(and my sensor setup is home made garbage made from a TO-92 package sensor), and I'm betting the quality of my cheap magnets is alot lower than what's cheaply brought today.
@TzOk
@TzOk 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this episode, now the problem with a double trigger is clear. On the first video, there was an impression, that you are stating that it triggers twice, because it turns on, on the both edges of the magnet, which is not the case. The real problem was, that it turns off again, when it is far from the magnet, which was not shown before, so the pattern looked something like this: 000101000.
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 3 жыл бұрын
It was my editing in the first episode that threw everybody off. Now that I know people are paying attention, I need to be more clear.
@gchsbus
@gchsbus 3 жыл бұрын
....... This video series will take longer to complete then Ronald Finger's Fiero Restoration videos.
@Spinner0295
@Spinner0295 3 жыл бұрын
I understand that reference
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 3 жыл бұрын
The Fiero is making progress... yeah, I have been keeping an eye on that series.
@techguy3424
@techguy3424 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but I love watching the videos he puts together, same here
@buckstarchaser2376
@buckstarchaser2376 3 жыл бұрын
@@Spinner0295 Of course you do. All of us here are in the same KZfaq silo.
@chriso1373
@chriso1373 3 жыл бұрын
Im ok with that though. Im loving this project and the longer i get content to watch, the happier ill be!
@ukeemail
@ukeemail 3 жыл бұрын
Nice update. That thing turned over very smoothly in the sneak peak. I wonder if you could extract some power from the original magneto on the flywheel to power the EFI system? You have some very nice machining tools for an electronics guy like us :)
@blake301987
@blake301987 3 жыл бұрын
Excited for the next video! Keep up the good work.
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 3 жыл бұрын
sooon
@christophertstone
@christophertstone 3 жыл бұрын
The curie point of neodymium magnets is around 350ºC. If your engine is that hot, you got other problems. The sensor will pickup a very weak field, so it shouldn't be a problem. If it does turn out to be an issue, use an AlNiCo magnet.
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@JParkes43
@JParkes43 3 жыл бұрын
Even though I understood the first video. I had to watch and like this anyways. Full support to you
@marcosljf
@marcosljf 3 жыл бұрын
Yesss, i’ve been waiting for a video, and you cant never go wrong with these early uploads! 🔥💯🙏🏿
@matrixbang
@matrixbang 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know much about electronics, but when I look at that with the flywheel setup I feel like it would work if you made the signal from the flywheel turn an electronic switch on and off and just increased the angle from top dead center a little more on the configuration program. Then the signal goes from on pulse, off pulse, on pulse, to signal on..... signal off. Just a suggestion.
@scottl3739
@scottl3739 3 жыл бұрын
I'm making a mini bike and I'm going to use this as a complete step by step.. thank you 👍
@pauljs75
@pauljs75 3 жыл бұрын
Nickel-cobalt or Alnico alloy would be the answer for the magnet if it doesn't work out as-is. Pretty strong, as that's what some old speaker magnets were made with, even if it's not quite as strong as neodymium. Also if you reach it's curie temp, you're going to have bigger issues with the engine already.
@bloody_pinata
@bloody_pinata 3 жыл бұрын
This really did clear it up
@nicholasgade2288
@nicholasgade2288 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not the smartest chip on the board but I was completely picking up what you were putting down the first time.
@danielsmith-ze3wy
@danielsmith-ze3wy 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks for update
@andrewpearson6005
@andrewpearson6005 3 жыл бұрын
Mr Cantina, Jimbo, I NEED the next video! It's been too long😭
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 3 жыл бұрын
the next episode will be available on saturday 2/29/21 stay tuned!
@andrewpearson6005
@andrewpearson6005 3 жыл бұрын
@@robotcantina8957 Woop woop! I've had to start from the start again, but it's not the same cos I know when the gnomes are coming!😂
@flippy9133
@flippy9133 3 жыл бұрын
cant wait for next episode
@peep39
@peep39 3 жыл бұрын
Such a tease!!!
@mikerafone4736
@mikerafone4736 3 жыл бұрын
keeping an eye out
@slimyelbow
@slimyelbow 3 жыл бұрын
Look into a marine cam. Makes torque sooner and longer. Put one on my gx390 and made a world of difference.
@ProDigit80
@ProDigit80 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if insulating the ring from the axis would prevent it from running hot, by running a small plastic sleeve between the ring and the axis. The ring would cool through friction with the air, and the magnet will surely be a few degrees colder. Besides, the plastic sleeve will probably allow for a much better grip (I think).
@toddlosure4793
@toddlosure4793 3 жыл бұрын
Just so you know Harbor Freight is in the habit of hiring knowledgeable people to design stuff for their new products and pays them handsomely. They are very effectively conquering the welder market with some very nice welders from insider "big welder" knowledge this way.
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 3 жыл бұрын
good to know.
@cricketol
@cricketol 3 жыл бұрын
also if you add more complexity to an already complex system it can make basic trouble shooting harder if something goes wrong
@TACOMASRT5
@TACOMASRT5 3 жыл бұрын
This build is insane!! You are incredibly smart. I'm working on building an electric motorcycle. I'd love to get your input on it.
@runesmDK
@runesmDK 3 жыл бұрын
While on the topic of triggering, if the ecu is based on megasquirt firmware, i recall something about the trigger point being the max permittable ignition angle. That means you cannot advance past 26°, which probably straight up means youre not running effenciently as can be, specially on part throttle
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 3 жыл бұрын
From what I can gather, the kit is not a copy of megasquirt nor does it use megasquirt firmware. As a mater of fact, the seller advises against using tuner studio as it will destroy the ECU. Anyway, I believe the kit is based on the SECU-3 open source build. We will find out the limits of the ECU in due time.
@runesmDK
@runesmDK 3 жыл бұрын
@@robotcantina8957 Alright - looking forward to next chapter
@brandonleuchtag8022
@brandonleuchtag8022 3 жыл бұрын
Well Robot Cantina. My opinion is that the prior video had shown and stated the problem extremely well. But what can ya do.
@oldwrench4213
@oldwrench4213 3 жыл бұрын
5:08 ? I feel deprived! This is very addictive! There is another way to trigger the ignition. But you seem to have everything under control. 😁
@Haploanddogs
@Haploanddogs 3 жыл бұрын
Subscriber numbers are blowing up! Well deserved
@Zesserie
@Zesserie 3 жыл бұрын
With this content i think its just fair! :)
@klausbrinck2137
@klausbrinck2137 3 жыл бұрын
Made perfect sense already last time. My problem is, that I´m afraid, that your new, small flywheel (with thus lower resolution) will trigger the sensor for 2/360ths-3/360ths instead of just 1/360th of a flywheel-revolution. Maybe you´ll have to space the sensor further of the small flywheel, so to get a shorter lasting triggering signal (higher resolution), even if then that signal gets a bit weaker.. But that´s just my thoughts, and I have no clue about such stuff... After all, the old, big flywheel had a gigantic magnet (so, also low resolution/precision ;-), while the new, small one has a tiny, matching magnet, so, just my thoughts...
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 3 жыл бұрын
The ECU operates so fast that the signal we are getting is plenty. For the ECU it seems like eternity between crank signals. Keep in mind the crank trigger doesn't directly fire the ignition. All the calculations including dwell are based on data collected on the previous revolution.
@overbuiltautomotive1299
@overbuiltautomotive1299 2 жыл бұрын
i use megasquirt /microsquirt and speeduino . i all most bought a econ tronics unit but it felt like it was just subpar .and ford EDIS ignitions are a easy cheap go to wasted spark unit but C.O.P are nicer and i woukld use that on most apps unless i needed the out puts on ecu like on v8 or v12 etc rambling again lol great video
@davidellison6571
@davidellison6571 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure the author researched it, but the critical temperature of a neodyium magnet is around 80C. Not sure if that'll be a problem or not.
@Bumpkin06
@Bumpkin06 3 жыл бұрын
you teasing me I thought you uploaded pt 22
@MrDylanfabre
@MrDylanfabre 3 жыл бұрын
KEEP MAKING THESE VIDEOS
@ross9580
@ross9580 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't think anything needed clarification.
@bigliftm
@bigliftm 3 жыл бұрын
hurry hurry i want more... 🤣🙈
@terrya6486
@terrya6486 3 жыл бұрын
Use an optical trigger. Like all of the cheap kits to replace points in old cars.
@TheRaker1000
@TheRaker1000 3 жыл бұрын
Just so you know, i thought the first video seemed very clear about the two sensor trigger points.
@klincecum
@klincecum 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully you won't need it, but Samarium Cobalt magnets can take over 500 degrees F. Not expensive either for the size you'll need.
@lazar2175
@lazar2175 3 жыл бұрын
It could have been solved using some inverters and an AND gate. However, as you said, it's not something your Average Joe would understand. Furthermore, your approach is far more headache free, considering that there's fewer stuff to go wrong. Getting engines to run without electronics is a task of itself, i'd be wary of using a pulse generator on the igniton timing. Even a slightest issue could make your car run bad and could take weeks to find.
@martinfisker7438
@martinfisker7438 3 жыл бұрын
What a massive spoiler at the end :)
@joshnabours9102
@joshnabours9102 3 жыл бұрын
Did the gremlins steal the last 20-25 minutes of the video? It was way shorter than I am used to. Still loved it though!!!!
@aaroncook5681
@aaroncook5681 3 жыл бұрын
Absolute Legend
@blaggironheart9919
@blaggironheart9919 3 жыл бұрын
if you're going to add that cheap turbo, make sure you have enough end gap on the piston rings. else bye bye rings.
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