I agree! I think if it was given more of a chance some good and different coffee could be offered at an affordable price too.

I think it's slowly getting there. More and more speciality roasters buying good quality robusta and roasting it to the same light-to-medium level as arabica with great effect. It's a good competitor to coffee from India and Sumatra and when roasted in the modern way makes for a great earthy-chocolatey base for espresso. It still needs a couple years to get rid of some of the stigma, but it's already showing potential!

Def agree with that. Looking forward to seeing what happens.

Robusta nearly killed me. Take care.

I visited Vietnam 5 years ago and had some of the best coffee I’ve ever had anywhere. Most of it was robusta. It can be spectacularly good. If I recall correctly, one of the roasters I visited added butter to the beans as they were roasting!

Thanks buddy! Feels good to be putting out some vids and learning more about coffee. Cant wait to get the new place set up and pump out more! Hope all has been well ol buddy!

@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee everything is great!

Great to hear my friend!

Thanks so much my friend. Ya, I def want to start experimenting more with Robusta blends and see if I can find anything that tastes really good. I haven't roasted the Indian robusta in a wild so I need to try that again. Hope all has been well buddy!

Thanks so much Shane! I truly appreciate you watching!

"robusta" and "bland" are two words I never thought would go together.

Nice! Ya I have been talking to @Aillio as well. I would love to get one and create some videos with it. Do you have it yet or is it just shipping now?

@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee I ordered it just a few days ago from Sweet Maria's out of Oakland, CA. I would have guessed it would get to me here in San Diego quite quickly, but they do say it can take 10 days just to process the order. They do say that upfront, so I'll just practice some patience. haha

Haha I hear that. Ya I think sweet Maria’s is a small team. Anxious to hear how you like it. I’m really thinking of biting the bullet and getting one too.. no pun intended. Haha

@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee I'll keep posted at some point!

@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee I've now received the bullet a few weeks ago and have roasted some top shelf Ethiopia and Kenya beans and am loving what the bullet is producing. The community on Roast World is great and helpful with getting me on the right track with helpful recipe ideas for reference.

Nice!! Truly appreciate you watching! What are you roasting on if you do it mind me asking?

@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee it's a cheap roaster. Don't even know who makes it. Looks like a shallow crock pot with a metal bar rotating in the middle. 😃

Got ya. It is still better than store bought coffee honestly! haha

Burnt taste is surely down to the roasting, not the bean.

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Yeah I find the kick factor actually makes up for the lack of sweetness, in effect though robusta is a less sweet bean , it kicks in an intense bittersweet flavour, yes bitter but also frontloading the sweet aspect on the palate.

Ya, looking back I should have clarified that the cultivated trees are usually trimmed down alot from their normal size making them much smaller than they would be in the wild. I wish I would of thought about that before posting. haha Thanks so much for watching my friend and truly appreciate the feedback!

I would highly recommend. It’s fun to try and see just how different the taste is.

Heck ya! How you liking the San Fran?

It’s fun man. And you don’t need anything to crazy to out do what they sell in the grocery store. Good luck on your journey and have a great weekend buddy!

Thanks so much Jenny! Truly happy you enjoyed it and thanks for watching!

haha thanks my friend! I truly appreciate you watching. I do not sell yet but I am hoping to before the end of the year. Take care buddy!

I will definitely be going into a few more. Some you cant even purchase anywhere. But Liberica and Excelsa you can. I have not personally purchased or roasted them yet but these are the sites I have found. I have messaged the Bean Shipper guy on IG and they seem pretty legit. Probably going to get some in the next couple weeks. beanshipper.com/en-us lenscoffee.com/vietnamese-buon-me-thuot-excelsa-green-unroasted/

Haha yes indeed! Mix it with some Copenhagen and now you have a product! Lol

Hey buddy! I would charge 6 pounds on 3kg roaster. I would get a spare set of bearings for sure. I have been having issues with mine. My drum motor went out and the electrical issues is giving me trouble. So, I am going to make a video soon on my issues with it. Thanks for watching buddy and hit me up with any other questions.

I would like to experiment more with lending ratios. The India Robusta I have tried tasted better than the Vietnam one I have. I want to try some Central American Robusta and see if I can pull any differences out of it. Hope all has been going well buddy!

Hehe I just replied the same. The Indian Cherry Robusta really blends well. I blend with Brazil and Sumatra arabicas

@@AussieMark888 good to here it blends well with Brazil I just bought a batch will be trying that blend next so far the Colombian and Java have both worked well together and I think the Java at least to my taste is a slightly better blend of those two

@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee going good I have also been wanting to try some Central American robusta just trying to get my India stock down a little more first

Haha and this is why I love KZfaq. I just went down a 30 minute long “eugenoides coffee” binge read. Ya, I’m definitely going to look more into that one. It’s so cool to find out about all these different coffees that are not main stream. Thanks for info and commenting. Excited to learn more about it!

Not yet. I am hoping to by the end of the year. Thanks so much for asking though!

How much are you roasting at a time? I know for me on my IR-1, establishing times with half batches proved to be beneficial. With a 2.2lb max, I like to roast 2lbs at a time... leave a little room so the beans and hot air can better circulate. That said, some beans just wouldn't give much of an audible crack at that capacity. I found that If I went in first with a pound, the cracks where more resounding and I could better establish a more precise timing for first crack. As far as Yirgas go, in my experience, dense beans and way finicky. Keep that nose in the tryer and sniff out that sweet spot. Generally speaking, I'm getting about 15-18% dev time and dropping out at around 390-394F for a light roast. But, I'm also slow roasting... dropping in at around 350F and cooking the beans btwn 17-23 minutes. The IR-1 is a few steps down as far as capacity Vs what I was formally trained on (San Franciscan SF-25). Another thing to note, that particular SF-25 was modified for higher drop in temps which expedited the roasts tremendously. I'm talking 18lbs of coffee in 7-9min.

@@jordanberlingeri8101 thanks i have a small setup roasting 8oz batches. Do you have a general target RoR at 1c? When you were long roasting 17min was there ever any baked flavors or baking concerns? I may try to lengthen my roasts. Generally I am around 7-8min total with a target 20% Dev time

@@Skinnyriver To be honest, I find smaller roasters and methods that roast smaller batches to be much more difficult to tame at higher temps with higher RoR's. As far as baked flavors or otherwise unwanted notes, perhaps I've been fortunate but, the coffee has been consistently great. That is after I tuned my roast to accommodate smaller batches with lower temps and longer overall roasts.

Skinny River, I have noticed that smaller roasters and sample roasters do not follow all the rules that larger roasters go. So a lot of the courses on KZfaq or that these companies offer will not translate to these smaller roasters to well. I try to focus more on development time after first crack and keep the ROR as constant a decline as possible. I know Scott Rao and other preach the perfect declining ROR but on these small roasters I don't think it works as well. I am still learning too so, If I figure out anything I will def share it.

Pants are for the rich!

Haha exactly!

Hahaha!!! Yes!

It's just as good as roasting in just an apron lol

@@thelonebarista Haha! Yes indeed! I still need to invest in a good apron.

Haha I would love to buddy! Are you in Texas?

@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee I am indeed, sir! Holiday's are upcoming and the world may very well explode prior to the new year but, if we make it through, lets connect. I'm totally serious. My wife is from El Salvador. We have many contacts and are always looking for new frens!!

Plus, your drive and passion is on par with mine and I want to help your process any way possible.

Heck ya dude. I have a little tribe over here but if we get an opportunity or if we are driving through that area we def need to meet up and sip a coffee together. Passionate people are the best people. Hopefully we can make it happen.

Thanks for the advice. I truly appreciate it.

Thanks so much my friend!