UK Here We Grow take a bucket of sea water and you will sea the amount of minerals that are immediately available on your soil. You could use also sea salt in a very minimal Portion. Thanks for you sharings

@@muhammadkallouj5638 This just proves my point entirely. I'm not saying minerals don't come from rock dust. the minerals in the ground have been breaking down for millions of years. crushing rocks does not make the nutrients available

@@simplifygardening Crushing rocks isn't enough, you have to pulverize them, grind them, and mill them until they are as fine as bleached white wheat flour and being that fine they will evenly dissolve in water, and mixed with humus, the humic acids of humus will dissolve the rock dust particles into colloids that will be absorbed by plants. Nature has been making rock dust through the natural grinding process of glaciation, water erosion, wind erosion but mostly through glaciation. But glaciation has an another accompanying process simultaneously acting while it is grinding-breaking down the rocks, it is called leaching. Rock dust powder making just simply imitates nature's glaciation process WITHOUT THE LEACHING PROCESS which retains the original mineral content level without altering it.

What about Azomite?

Azomite ?

They have had millions of years to break that down, you dont have the luxury of time like that

Besides there's already rock dust minerals in the soil from the evolution of our planet over thousands of years, as your chart shows, its how the geology of the earth developed with a breakdown of all organic matter. Its only short term beneficial use is to add drainage or to aid worms breakdown compost, a bit like how grit is useful for the chickens gizzard.

@@BionicRasta Totally agree Natty especially as worms have gizzards much like chickens

Rock dust is part of Brazil's agricultural policy this was already worked out in the 30s but it absorbs lots of CO2 so on a global scale you must be careful as it will cause climate change

How does it absorb co2 and why is that a bad thing? Are you saying it takes a lot of petrol to crush and apply that rock?

Thanks will do. lots coming up :) stay tuned

Anthony I am glad you saw this in time to save your cash. Invest in some cow manure and mulch the garden with it. So many other free ways to add nutrients too

Stick with the Robbie you wont go far wrong

Nailed it. Exactly why I did numerous leaf mould videos and they are very popular, The sediment that the trees pull from has had thousands of years to break down not one season. :)

Actually, the organic acids from decomposed organic material act as a chemical buffer that makes the trace minerals available. But if your soil is depleted, lacking in these minerals, I suspect that rock dust might be useful.

that's interesting thanks

Agreed Susie Its mental how companies think they can get away with it with a little marketing

Thanks Alia. Appreciate that comment. 😀

Yes Christy. Its amazing what leaf mould or compost can do for you. Stick with those for a great garden

Barbara keep putting the organics in. Your doing it right. The same as good old mother nature

barbara saunders agreed.

Years ago when this rock dust became available i trialed a raised bed with rock dust compared to a raised bed with organic dug in manure, left it for 6 months over the winter and planted out in it come spring, the muck bed produced better/bigger veg hands down. Ok after the trial of a seasons growing in both beds i emptied the contents of both beds onto the veg plot still separating the areas to see if several years later there was still any difference with the rock dust area, in a word "no", that was approx 10 plus years ago now !! i rest my case lol.

@@barbarasaunders6919 Yeah the same as my findings Barbara. Total waste of money

@@barbarasaunders6919 That was 'the proof of the pudding'. I have used SEA-90 for 15 years to re-supply minerals to my soil. Very inexpensive!

Cheers Paul. Appreciate the support and glad its helping you :)

Thanks Sunrise Seven, Glad it was of interest

Thanks Janice, appreciate you leaving the comment

Thanks Shirley, really appreciate your continued support

Cheers Dojo I am glad it was of interest

Cheers Sanches appreciate it

Perfect James. Stick with the organics mate they will do you well and wont cost you much

This sounds like the vinegar diet. On the vinegar diet, you can lose a lot of weight and lower your cholesterol. But in order to allow the vinegar to do its work, you have to also eat lots of fruits and vegetables and stay away from processed foods and sugars.

Cheers Nick. There are much better things you can use your money on :)

Yeah Steve totally agree with this

i cant believe everyone totally misses the fact that microbes feed on basalt rock dust when its micronized ....you can literally make microbial tea with it and make the calcium and magnesium chelated in less than 24 hrs..........its also amazing that everyone misses the contradiction that micro nutrients in soil are not about the plant ....dude even says feed the soil and not the plants ....the science proves that trace elements are an improvement for reasons other than meeting plant requirements

Thanks mate, Glad it was of interest to you.

Your welcome

Yes Clare it did need to be said and hopefully this made sense to most

never used it at all Tony

Thanks Linda, Dont worry about using it either hun

Absolutely, Organic wins everytime for me

Charles Dowding only uses compost decaying plant matter and manure to improve his soil. No mention of rock dust.

@@vajrayogini37 Exactly as nature intended, The forest floor doesnt have rockdust all over it and the amazon does ok for itself. Only when we get involved do things go pare shapped

@@simplifygardening The Amazon is re-mineralized annually by dust from the Sahara which is blown across the Atlantic Ocean by trade winds.

Cheers Lizzie, I appreciate it :)

UK Here We Grow There's just so many scams out there that we can all do with out

Sorry Terry, better late than never

Thanks Christine, Just thought I would give everyone my take on it

Exactly jan. I just want folks to think about what they are doing rather than blindly listening to hype

Thanks appreciate it

You’re welcome

Glad it was of interest Heather. 😀

Totally agree Tara. I just wanted to ensure you guys are made aware so you dont waste your hard earned money

Cheers John, glad it helps

Thanks Christine 😀

Cheers SMN

That’s great Christine

I DONT ROCK DUST tho :)

UK Here We Grow :-)

Steve spend that money on something else pla it will benefit your garden much more

Put it into adding organics Martin

Hey thanks mate. Appreciate the support :)

Thanks

Glad I could help. Welcome to the channel, dig around there is over 420 videos here to help you in the garden

Gail with everything else in that wheelbarrow it is more than likely those other ingridents that are giving you crops

Cheers Eddie. Your grandfather is a wise bloke

I’m glad you haven’t bought it

Sorry you didnt see the video before, but at least it wasnt a 20kg bag or something

@@simplifygardening thanks for your upload, I know better for next time. No it was only a 1kg cheap bag from ebay, thank goodness!

try buying SHARP SAND --- which is basically sand with bits of very small stones shells etc in it , much much coarser then building sand . a tonne is around £40 , last time i bought it ---- but a bag , which i did buy last week was £ 2.30 . that apparently will divide clay for drainage . but dont ADD rock dust with the sand unless you want to build a bloody garden cement brick wall , lol.

Me too let the worms do the work

Thats the best way to improve the clay soils Pam

@@pauldavies5655 Good point Paul and we mention digging this in to the ground in our last video

@@casper1240 As nature intended

Its ok if it costs more for better food but not to be totally ripped of for it

He didn't show any proof or data that shows what he says is true. Always question people that tell you that they learned the "truth" on their own and only show a single diagram of the life cycle of a rock. No scientific data or timeline of how long he waited for a response from the companies. I can't say one way or another if rock dust is good, but I can say his reasoning against it were not good.

@@robertm4050 Robert check out alberta garden video that i was pointed to last night. these are my views based on trials of it. it makes no difference when u use it. what proof that it works have the companies given you?

Here is a link to the video lab results that agrees with my findings kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o912Zrd3tOCtmZ8.html

@@simplifygardening I didn't say it worked, I specifically said that in my last reply. I work in research labs doing experiments with insect cells and protein extraction from infections for production of vaccines. I am familiar with AUGSOS and his videos, this one you linked was a superb video and the lab work is great for some one with a home garden. But there are so many variables to take into consideration and I can't pick apart a video that long right now. First, what was the alkalinity of the soil, if it is alkaline rock dust producers say it won't work. Why not clone a plant to make sure they don't have seeds that are going to grow less quality plants in one and better in the other? This could explain nutrient, taste, quality in each plant. At what point were the peppers picked, was one further along in it's growth cycle and would show better nutrients numbers? What explanation did he use for the decrease in soil nutrients at the end? How long did he let the rock dust break down in the soil before testing or planting? Was there enough time for it to break down at all? Is he going to see improvements years down the road? Did the rock dust being more dense fall the bottom of the boxes and when sampling did he miss getting it in his sampling? Was he sampling from multiple locations? He had an extremely small sample scale which could skew numbers to an extreme extent. I could easily rattle off another couple dozen questions that would impact numbers in the soil and fruit. Great video that he did and great numbers, but there is a lot more to it than what he showed. To have any value it would need to be scaled up and reproduced with the same results multiple times. Again, I don't know if it works, but for the moderate price it doesn't seem to hurt anything. We already use lime stone and phosphate rock to amend soils, so it does work in at least some situations and certain stones. Finally, you can't compare tossing in a couple random rocks in a garden to a know rock sample with known properties ground into a fine powder as it will be available in the soil much quicker than a rock will break down, like hundreds of years earlier. That would be like me using a Magnum size condom and getting my woman pregnant and then saying condoms don't work. Or was it that the condom was too big for my willy and couldn't do the job we know it can do?

Glad you agree :)

Totally agree

Thats it Janet. Its all about the organics. Get those in your soil and you will always win. Its what nature does afterall

I wouldnt worry about that its so small in amounts its almost indetectable in any veg you grow

Thanks Patrick. Too many people wasting their hard earned money

The point being is that as stated in the video in the time your at the garden the fungi and breakdown process would never add anything to your soil. it takes too long and your soil already has what it needs. people should concentrate on providing the proper sir and moisture levels for plants to uptake the nutrients

Yeah I just think there are much better things to be spending on in the garden, The best thing it would do for you is add grit

Keep it and use it where you can make a difference

Yeah its not doing anything beneficial for them, It may add a little silica but the conditions have to be perfect for that and they wont be

Lol

lol because they want to eventually build a moon

i've been saying for years you can't eat concrete

A Man from my own heart Tony :)

That’s why you need the microbiome in your soil to convert the bound up nutrients and make them available for the plants

That the issue Keith most of the nutrients would take forever to become plant available

It's an expensive way to do it and does take longer than our life to contribute to a garden.

The key to the nutrients becoming plant available is very fine particle size. In other words a very high surface area to volume ratio. I'm not sure of the characteristics of basalt rock dust you are describing, as it's not sold where I live, but it's benefit to improving the yield when applied to an annual crop, would be close to zero in year one. Mixing into a highly active, warm and damp environment such as a compost heap would help speed up its' nutrient release. In effect the break down by microbes of rock particles is the way all natural soil, plant communities co exist. Chemically adulterated water soluble fertilisers are the human way of speeding the process, which of course is not without its' own detrimental effects. I would agree it's not a product that should cost big $$$. Lime should be a product with similar pricing. It's not the same product as soluble fertilisers and can't be compared to them. RPR is a product I am more familiar with and needs to be applied three years ahead of expected response, but I do use it on pasture rather than vege.

@@keithomelvena2354 Thanks for your input Keith. Lime is more water soluble than other rock so can be utilized by plants

Yeah as i said its cheap as chips

Laura, I believe its called Azomite in the USA

Yeah By the looks of it seems a lot of folks agree with us

Yes a shame he stopped producing videos i went searched for his last night after someone else said he made one about it. I missed it at the time somehow

Good gardeners test, there is no need to argue some people will argue black is white for the sake of it

You can use sharp sand instead of horticultural sand Frank. If you got it you may as well put it in its not going to do no harm and the worms will use it for the gizzards to break down food.

I have 200 pounds of grit sand I was going to use under some paving slabs but have no idea if it would be ok in the beds if I’m honest.

If its just sharp sand grit sand it will be fine

I think you have enough there Ron lol :)

Cant lose with that vivi :)

Id argue the microbes are doing that and not the azomite

@@simplifygardening you may need to go back to gardening school. Microbes and fungus carry nutrients and trace minerals to the plant, as well as enable availability. You need both. Basalt is not nearly as nutrient-rich as Gaia Green or Azomite. Not all 'rock dusts' are created equal. If you think they are, you may need to go back to gardening school.

@@simplifygardening you really should have given more thought to the subject before making the video. There is a reason the person you're replying too uses microbes alongside rock dust, the same reason the NATURAL rock cycle is completely irrelevant... Rock dust is amazing stuff when you know how to use it.

All that stuff takes years and months to break down before you you'll have three or four Harvesters going through that before it's ready for minerals and nutrients rock dust takes years bone meal takes over 5 months

If you want something for transfer shock use aloe and cinnamon

Yes Sarah-jane sand is much much cheaper

Sharp sand. Grit. Horticultural sand. Can all be used for drainage 😀

Melody, Your using all the perfect stuff. Stick with that and you will never go wrong. Dont fall for the marketing scams :)

Natty I have done it time and time again, the prob is that you wouldnt be able to tell if the nutrients ive already put in the ground would keep the growth the same

Its not viable for the gardener it takes 100s of years for what they add to become available to the plants

I do like Biochar, not because of anything other than its surface area for housing microbial life

Wow Terry you had it at a bargain price but its still a rip off even at £1 a sack

@@simplifygardening My mate sam would get in the sack for less than £1

Cheers, Dougie. Amazing what companies think they can get away with

UK Here We Grow and then there’s always people out there thinking they can reinvent the wheel. You only have to look in a fishing tackle shop, most of the stuff in there is to catch the fisherman, not the fish.

Leaf mould is perfect to add nutrients John. Great stuff pal

how much leaves u manage to collect for lets say my allotment size=400m2?

@@andrewyek I collect loads. I usually fill around 10 1 ton sacks after they are shredded, so prob more like 30 1 ton sacks un shreded. for you plot maybe 3 of those after shredding or 9 before would be enough

@@simplifygardening hier do u manage to collect so much? i collected them by forking at the leaves land fill after work.. each time can only haul 1 bag in my car.. heavy and dirty.. my wife not happy abt it.. how do u shred them?

Yeah comfrey is a great mineral accumulator.Great stuff, Yes I may have opened Pandora's box, but sometimes you have to let the rabbit out of the bag to stop people being taken advantage of

Agreed FFP@@simplifygardening

Cool :)

Cheers Justin. seems a lot of folks been thinking the same thing

Hi Hulga. It is amazing just how this product became so popular