RockShox Fork Upgrades | Charger 2.1 Damper & DebonAir Air Spring

RockShox Fork Upgrades | Charger 2.1 Damper & DebonAir Air Spring | Lyrik, Yari, Pike & Revelation

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If you want better performance from your RockShox Lyrik, Yari, Pike or Revelation, you can easily upgrade your fork’s internal parts to transform your mid-level fork into the top-tier Ultimate fork!
In this video, we’re going to show how you can easily change a few parts in your current fork to have that top shelf performance without having to drop a bunch of dough for an entirely new fork.
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@bisforbroke4233 4 жыл бұрын

Love how simple and straight forward these videos are

@stianjarnass 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, makes me wonder if it really is that simple🤣

@LexZolnir 4 жыл бұрын

I already did this with Pike 140MM and i cant believe the difference, especially in hand fatigue and the bump sensitivity is amazing-- it feels as if i am cutting through those small bumps v going over them...just so smooth.

@shanndalton 4 жыл бұрын

Did the same on Pike, did you have to lower psi dramatically to obtain sag? I’m sitting at 50 psi to get 15 mm. Thanks for the feedback

@HughForte 3 жыл бұрын

This was one of the most helpful videos I've ever watched regardless of subject matter. Cheers for putting this together so well. Upgrade kit order coming your way...

@plebism 4 жыл бұрын

Fantastic video! Exactly what I needed to help me decide how to manage my Pike RC fork - thanks!

@chucks5419 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Mike, I upgraded my 2017 Pike RCT3 to the Charger 2.1 damper and went from a 150mm spring to a 160mm Debonair spring. Very happy with the results.

@fyttirackarn 2 жыл бұрын

I ordered a compatible 160 mm Debonair for my 140 mm Pike in hope to extend the travel 20 mm. How did it work for you extending travel 10 mils? I guess the oil damper still is it's original length, or how does that work?

@AdamHurley 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic video. Gave me EXACTLY the information I went to their website for and struggled to work out. Thanks a million!

@TheLostCo 2 жыл бұрын

Success!! Stoked we could help out.

@andym436 4 жыл бұрын

Great information. My wife and I both have Pikes that I was installing these upgrades as this video was being released. Our shocks also got an air spring service. Hopefully we can get out and ride them this afternoon.

@bsage5609 4 жыл бұрын

Great video! I just got a Remedy 9.7 with a Yari fork and this seems like what it needs. In forksight this is what I should have done all along

@markczechalien3592 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks to you, I ordered from your site, debonair and charger, can't wait

@PedalingDave 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for clarifying what's better for a longer travel Pike (160). I upgraded the spring already but at 160mm, the RC2 damper is what I should go with...Excellent!

@zenofthemoment Жыл бұрын

Just did the air spring in my 2018 35mm Revelation RC and can’t believe how much less stiction it has. Can’t wait to do the damper now.

@vmxd 4 жыл бұрын

I have upgraded my 2018 revelation fork (35mm) with newer debonair spring and dampener Charger V2,.1 and yes, I can feel the difference, now it has better compliance, and shock feels way more sensitive on small bumps. The only cone it got heavier, not really a con, but a fact! But I am happy with this upgrade.

@buggerall 3 жыл бұрын

Could you help me here? I want to do the same but are wondering what rebuild kit to order. Will a rebuild kit for the revelation still work? Or should I get a pike rebuild kit with added advantage of SKF seals? TIA.

@maskims_blanchos 4 жыл бұрын

I just serviced (on m'y own for 50 box) the lowers and air spring of my 2018 lyrik rct3 witch hasn't been serviced since more than a year, and it feels like brand new!

@johnnguyen8724 2 жыл бұрын

Breaking it down for the layman's. So helpful thank you.

@RydenDirty 3 жыл бұрын

Dude this is so badass. Thank you so much mike I was thinking about buying a new fork and now im stoked to save a ton of money.🤟

@TheLostCo 3 жыл бұрын

That's what we like to hear!

@juliosalazar9668 3 жыл бұрын

Your videos are so clear and concise, so good!

@GeorgeFrideric71 2 жыл бұрын

Really useful. I'm about to upgrade a Revelation. Many thanks.

@mtbshredder5719 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome Video Guys. I feel an upgrade coming on!!!!

@InterstateConex 3 жыл бұрын

great video, I was confused about some of the details and will order from you guys

@fcolorca9 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks guys!, My Pike 2016, now is ultimate!

@BhBraaq 4 жыл бұрын

How did I just find this channel? Awesome

@TheWoodbag 3 жыл бұрын

This is such a good video! Upgrade here we come!

@loisbeigli 10 ай бұрын

Thank you! Can't wait to upgrade my pike

@rpaxton443 Жыл бұрын

Great video,will upgrade.

@pbalerig 4 жыл бұрын

The video with all the answers I need!

@jctrails 4 жыл бұрын

Dude really digging these tech videos. Keep up the good work.

@srrtbb 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome job with with video. I'm definitely minimum getting rc2 kit and debonair for both legs when it is time to rebuild my pike.

@Alexpropman1 4 жыл бұрын

Great video... This guy does awesome informative videos!!!!

@Marc28031984 4 жыл бұрын

I’ve got a RS 35 Gold, Debon Air, 2020 Should work too, since Yari and Pike are the same.

@sitof7 4 жыл бұрын

tnk for the help!!!very nice video!!!hello from Greece!!!

@eugenesmith895 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, super simple and informative.

@WeirdGuitarDoc Жыл бұрын

Great, now i have an godd idea and a wish! Update will start soon. Thank you!

@tellyawhatmate 2 жыл бұрын

Great vid

@shtzweak 2 жыл бұрын

Just picked up a used yeti, got the upgrade debonair kit, saving up for the damper next

@jasonlewis6914 4 жыл бұрын

I just got rockshox Pike rct3 140mm brand new for 375$. such a amazing shock.

@YanDoroshenko 4 жыл бұрын

Had a pre-Debon Air Yari, pretty fine fork. Guess the upgrades would have made it even finer.

@AdrianSchwizgebel 4 жыл бұрын

Got one of those on my first bike. I then went the long route and put in a DebonAir spring and a Charger 2.1 RC2, plus an MRP ramp control cartridge. Now it's a damn fine fork!

@srich8251 4 жыл бұрын

Great Video Thank you for this!

@Kollingl 4 жыл бұрын

i would love a video talking about the difference between fox and rockshox forks like you did with sram and shimano brakes, was awesome, cheers from brazil

@TheLostCo 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind word! We will have a video in early Spring about the Fox 36 vs RockShox Lyrik 🤘

@tenzinduba622 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic video!

@thetrailtrawler2602 4 жыл бұрын

I’ve got the Debonair Lyrik they are great

@MTBMOR 4 жыл бұрын

Me too and Ditto...It is so good that after 1000 hours my shockwiz is telling me to let out 10 psi

@jakp8777 4 жыл бұрын

Like the new hair style!

@boostaddict_ Жыл бұрын

I'm looking at buying a used Lyrik Select and upgrading it with a 140mm debonair spring and eventually maybe a charger damper. Planning out my next bike right now and have a line on a cheap 2021 Norco and a cheap Lyrik, should be fun.

@mtb246 4 жыл бұрын

I have a 2019 Revelation, which damper upgrade is best for me, the Charger 2.0 or 2.1? Also, since I am seeing 2021 upgrades released, is it better to get the 2020 upgrade which might be at a bargain now? Is the 2021 a marginal upgrade that would have diminishing returns?

@guilhermembeck 4 жыл бұрын

Great video! Thank you! I could not find clear explanations as yours even at RockShox website, with, by the way, gives no explanations at all.

@gohstryder23 3 жыл бұрын

Wanting to know the same thing?

@BobV1la 4 жыл бұрын

Should a followup video with something like the products vorsprung makes to upgrade forks! Like smashpot coil conversion for the yari and lyrik

@benge3092 4 жыл бұрын

Amazing video

@pregardt 4 жыл бұрын

I have the Revelation RC 35mm 2018 fork with 29er set up 140mm travel. Can i get the air spring and the charger and somehow get 150mm travel? Is it going to mess up the geometry of the bike?

@enriqueflores9630 4 жыл бұрын

Great information!! Just saved me from buying a $1000 Fox 36!!

@McKevittS 3 жыл бұрын

Anyone watching this with an A1-A2 model Pike... RS stopped selling the latest Debonair upgrade for our forks, but you can buy the older debonair (thin red seal head) and add a "seal head upgrade" for a lyrik or whatever as long as its 35mm. with a 12mm wrench and an 8mm allen key you change the seal head and footnut to give yourself the latest Debonair air spring.

@MatroniFitness 4 жыл бұрын

Let’s get a push 11.6 + ACS-3 upgrade. I’m rocking a DPX2 factory and factory 36 grip 2, and considering getting pushed but nervous about going coil in front and not being able to go back.

@georgigeeksky8349 4 жыл бұрын

THANKS!

@buggerall 3 жыл бұрын

So how does this work with rebuild kits? When you upgrade, do you still use the standard ones meant for you fork type? I have to do both right now.

@sroyk778 4 жыл бұрын

Hi iam looking for the crown thread diameter where the new charger threads in ....... For some retro fork upgrades

@pb8582 3 жыл бұрын

Put a 2.1 damper with HSC and LSC on my revelation fork that on my hardtail. The damper feel amazing. But the HSC or LSC has absolutely no effect maybe I'm already on the perfect psi rebounds and token cos that has absolutely effect at all

@nicofarnung8116 3 жыл бұрын

Does this also works with the Rockshox 35 Gold?

@AbideinChristFully 4 жыл бұрын

I just learned that there is a coil conversion kit for rockshox: ACS3 FORK COIL CONVERSION KIT FOR 2016-2020 ROCK SHOX LYRIK/YARI RC/RCT3/RC2 I bought the Charger 2.1 Damper Upgrade Kit, but I might swap it...depending on research.

@gerritvanimpe9759 3 жыл бұрын

You can do both, install the Charger damper and a coil spring. But to me it looks like the Vorsprung Smashpot might be the coil way to go

@Mrgnothing1 4 жыл бұрын

I got a lyrik select plus. Is there any benifit from upgrading to one with a lockout on it apart from the benifit of a lockout?

@crudolol 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, for a RockShox Upgrade, you Upgrade the airspring and the damper. For the fox, only the damper. Does this mean the Performance fox already has the same damper as the Elite or factory?

@johnconnor730 4 жыл бұрын

I ride 2017 lyrik rct3, should i upgrade it with debon air? And charge 2.1,?

@zx10r92 4 жыл бұрын

I’m still debating whether to get new fork or buy the new damper, I already have a 2019 Yari but the damper cost £300 to upgrade and I can get an almost new (Lyrik Ultimate) fork for about £600-£700🤔

@michaelcawley7400 3 жыл бұрын

Watching this with a fox 34 coming tomorrow

@thesupernad 4 жыл бұрын

Has something changed in 2020? Previous years the Lyrik and Yari shared the same magnesium crown.

@LexTNeville 2 жыл бұрын

Can increase or decrease travel with a different air spring too.

@lordfarquaad2723 4 жыл бұрын

I can tell you now iv bombed trails with the yari rc 2019 with the full upgrade kit and it doesn't skip around I run 2 tokens and 100psi

@mdoucette45 4 жыл бұрын

lordfarquaad what amount of travel? I have the 160mm Yari and wondering if the RC2 is worth it?

@patrickdorn8319 3 жыл бұрын

Aloha So the bike I got ordered said it’s Lyrik select plus with debonair and 2.1 charger What is the difference in the ultimate if any or is it just the red lowers Thanks

@landisvoigt4634 4 жыл бұрын

For a 165lb rider looking at the pike and lyrik 29. To put on a SC hightower (150mm.) for mostly trail use, occasional enduro trails. Would it be worth saving the 1/3lb and going for the pike or at 29 150mm will their be a noticeable difference in flex for trail use? Cheers!

@allenjanes5976 4 жыл бұрын

You do a nice job.

@TheLostCo 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Allen!!

@johnmontiel2654 Жыл бұрын

Who can you recommend in the Sacramento area that will do this upgrade thank you.

@chrislim1043 2 жыл бұрын

I have a yari 160mm travel, i am debating on the rc2 vs rct3. Is there a huge difference between the 2? Especially it is a $100 diff on the price.

@bollywoodcyclingteam9772 3 жыл бұрын

I have a Pike Select Debonair with 150mm travel and low speed compression only. Is it possible to upgrade to the RCT3 kit or is it more suitable the RC2 for the 150mm travel? Kind of miss the lock ability for the long climbs (not saying it's a requirement).

@johnmontiel2654 Жыл бұрын

Could u plz give me the Part number for the best spring damper set up for my 2020 revelation rc 35mm forks

@McKevittS 4 жыл бұрын

I love this ability to upgrade! But first, a question: I have a 140mm 2016 Pike RC, Can I buy the same size damper in Charger 2.1 but make it a RCT3 instead?

@Adwardok81 4 жыл бұрын

According to the Sram docs www.servicearchive.sram.com/sites/default/files/techdocs/rockshox_spc_-_rev_h_1.pdf, you could upgrade to a RCT3 Charger 2.1 damper. Here are the parts number : 00.4020.169.000 DAMPER UPGRADE KIT - CHARGER2.1 RCT3 CROWN (INCLUDES COMPLETE RIGHT SIDE INTERNALS) - PIKE 15X100 26"(A1-A2/2014-2017) 00.4020.169.001 DAMPER UPGRADE KIT - CHARGER2.1 RCT3 CROWN (INCLUDES COMPLETE RIGHT SIDE INTERNALS) - PIKE 15X100 27.5"(A1-A2/2014-2017) 00.4020.169.002 DAMPER UPGRADE KIT - CHARGER2.1 RCT3 CROWN (INCLUDES COMPLETE RIGHT SIDE INTERNALS) - PIKE 15X100 29"(A1-A2/2014-2017)

@babd34 4 жыл бұрын

Does this upgrade apply to RockShox 35 Gold RL??

@wlk03 4 жыл бұрын

Can i get a 170mm debonair to increase my lyrik travel from 160mm?

@mtbhux9711 4 жыл бұрын

With a liryk do you suggest the rc2.1 damper upgrade or going with push hc97 damper? Running the ACS3 already

@al1843 Жыл бұрын

I have a Pike Select plus - came on a 2022 Santa Cruz 5010. How do I know which air spring I have? I know I only have one compression setting, so I assume that means I have the lower-level damper.

@willianb.6475 3 жыл бұрын

Just checking if I have understood it correctly. Even the Yaris Version can be upgrade to the New RC 2.1 version. Removing the original air/ oil mixed damper....??

@hannes6114 2 жыл бұрын

Can you put the rc2 in the pike a1? Seems like only the rct or rct3

@filippopassani2860 3 жыл бұрын

So on a lyrik select rc 2021 is it possible to change damper and install a rc2 ultimate one? the airshaft should be already the last version of it right ?

@StupidisStupidoes 4 жыл бұрын

What's the difference between the charger rc2 and the 2.1 ?

@AnimatoJack 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic Upgrade and Video !. . do u know if RockShox 35 Silver TK air sprung 130mm can be upgraded with those ? Regards.

@AnimatoJack 3 жыл бұрын

i read somewhere that 35 has a diffrent thread for internals (more dense) so possible those upgrades want fit.. but i am still double checking this.. here is that info: forums.mtbr.com/shocks-suspension/rockshox-35-gold-rl-disassemble-%96-what%92s-inside-1142709.html

@sillydilly2195 4 жыл бұрын

Would I be able to put a rockshox lyric ultimate on my trek slash 9.8?

@G4Disco 3 жыл бұрын

Now, can you upgrade old forks? My '07 Lyrik has 35mm stanchions and the old Motion Control damper. And yes, I'm still on 26". lol

@kriskellas1856 4 жыл бұрын

I have a 2020 Nukeproof Mega Comp with 170mm Yari fork. Can anyone tell me if I would already have the latest version of Debon Air Spring? Thanks for the informative video, looks like I need to to save up some cash for a cheeky wee upgrade.

@stefan1632 4 жыл бұрын

I have a transition patrol NX 2020 and it comes with a Rockshox Lyrik Select what are my upgrade options been searching the web and I'm not sure what I can do? They seem to be a lot more configurable than Fox kit which is awesome

@waldowsxxghostxx8577 8 ай бұрын

What is the model of that newest air spring for lyrik I am getting a 2022 model

@fcolorca9 4 жыл бұрын

Can i change lower legs, from Lyrik 27,5 Ultimate, to get a Lyrik 29 Ultimate??

@toddtucker4602 3 жыл бұрын

I have a Pike Ultimate 120 with the charger damper. Can I use the damper from a 2021 120mm SID with 35 mm stanchions with the lock out? Thanks

@marcemman2831 2 жыл бұрын

I have a lyrik ultimate rc2 with totaled stanchions. Can I transfer the damper and debonair airspring to a base-model yari and technically transform it into a lyrik ultimate?

@goudel3640 3 жыл бұрын

hey i have a Pike Select+ 2020 150mm on my devinci troy GX i find my fork too soft what i should upgrade on my fork ? or should i just change my fork thank you ..

@jonest-e393 2 жыл бұрын

i don't see the year model on the trailhead, can someone help me point out where?

@QQQ80804 4 жыл бұрын

Would this work with the Judy Silver?

@albertnava02 4 жыл бұрын

Can a fox shock rhythm be upgraded?

@evanhunterblbier 4 жыл бұрын

Do you know if the Yari 140mm can be upgraded to the Lyrik 160 cartridge?

@appinunkosal2630 3 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry but like can i upgrade it with yari solo air damper?

@alexandrepoirier1500 4 жыл бұрын

Can a Gold 35 be upgraded like this ?

@jerry-md9pf 3 жыл бұрын

I recently "upgraded" to a debonair air gen 1 shaft all fitted fine and moved fine how ever thay sag more then the stock air shaft and also get stuck down at about 120mm from 150 i can hold the lowers down and pull it back up to 150 but once sat on it it dose the same thing iv added extra bottomless tokens and up to 150psi and still get this sane issue Any ideas on the problem