RockSolid vs EpoxyShield | Which is Best for your Garage?

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We reveal and compare the true facts and differences between these two Rust-Oleum garage floor coatings. Learn which is best, the biggest complaints and problems of each, plus tips to increase the durability and life of these garage floor coatings. We have links below to better coatings we recommend.
RockSolid VS EpoxyShield | Which Garage Floor Coating is Best?
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00:00 - Introduction
01:01 - Coverage rates
01:33 - Differences - Polycuramine vs Epoxy
02:23 - Spec comparisons from data sheets
07:40 - EpoxyShield Pros
08:47 - EpoxyShield Complaints / Drawbacks
11:11 - RockSolid Pros
13:08 - RockSolid Complaints / Drawbacks
16:26 - Tips to increase durability
17:31 - Where to find Best Price

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@patbanta342 8 ай бұрын

Really excellent video. I watched it twice. This is an important topic for sure.

@williamboquist4090 11 ай бұрын

This video contains just the info I needed. Thanks!

@allgaragefloors 11 ай бұрын

Great, we are glad it helped.

@jaymorel7922 10 ай бұрын

Very informative, thank you I will be subscribing

@hawkeyejohnny968 Ай бұрын

I’ve used both kits and the Epoxy Shield didn’t last but a few years. Hot tire pick up was the biggest problem. Sanded it all off and went with Rock Solid. It’s been on for about fifteen years. The problem I had with Rock Solid was a few batches never dried. I contacted the company and they were aware of certain batches being defective and replaced it. Recoated the sticky areas but it still picked up dirt over the years. I have had zero problems with hot tire problems with Rock Solid. Now the clear is pealing off in front of the garage door and assuming it’s from the UV rays.

@allgaragefloors Ай бұрын

Hi Johnny. 15 years ago was before Rust-Oleum acquired Citadel Coatings which developed RockSolid. Back then, the RockSolid kit was a polyurea and not a Polycuramine like it is now. Polyurea is the better coating, but could be problematic at times. That is why they developed Polycuramine. If you scrape up the clear coat that is peeling and then rough up the entire floor with 120-grit sandpaper, you can apply another clear coat to the surface.

@bearkawiboy6246 10 ай бұрын

Very informative video Sir. Thanks for sharing

@brettarmstrong3759 2 ай бұрын

Awesome video comparison. My home store sells both of these so I was very curious (beforehand) which was the better option. Thanks for the informative video.

@allgaragefloors 2 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@ranapratapsingh3416 10 ай бұрын

Looks like Rock Solid is better than Epoxy Shield.

@abhisheknukala422 5 ай бұрын

Great video. Hope i found this before I had applied the coating. Is there a way to fix hot tire pickup? I am having hot tire pickup on one side of the 2 car garage even though I applied the clear coat on top of the color coat.

@allgaragefloors 5 ай бұрын

If you are using RockSolid, then the issue is most likely poor concrete prep, oil stains, or some other contaminant on that side of the garage. RockSolid rarely pulls up from hot tires with proper concrete prep. We would recommend a good degreasing (if oil stains are present) and then a more aggressive concrete etch to prevent it from happening again. EpoxyShield, on the other hand, has a reputation for peeling up despite how well the concrete prep is.

@geraldarcuri9307 5 күн бұрын

I applied Epoxy Shield 15+ years ago. South facing garage with LOTS of sun on the garage floor. Zero yellowing of the product, which is now just needing to be redone. Has been a very good product overall. They should put more color chips in the kit. One pound for a two car garage is insufficient. I did have minimal hot tire pickup.

@randyriley3860 10 ай бұрын

Very well presented with great details. I just painted my garage floor last week, but also found that the Rock Solid left a lot of discolored areas, probably due to concrete absorption of the product as you mentioned. You stated that re-painting can be done up to 7 days afterwards, but I will be out of town and won't be able to repaint until perhaps 10 to 12 days with a kit that I ordered on Amazon. Is there a lot of risk by waiting this long? Can I prepare the surface to make it work without having problems with peeling?

@allgaragefloors 10 ай бұрын

Hi Randy. There is no risk in waiting longer. However, you will need to prep the surface properly once you exceed the recoat window. This requires deglossing the surface by roughing it up with 120-150 grit sandpaper. A quick way is to rent a floor maintainer and go over the surface with a green scrub pad (dry) and then scuff up the corners and edges with sandpaper. Vac/sweep and then wipe the surface down with denatured alcohol or equivalent. Once it has evaporated, you can recoat.

@ef7496 10 ай бұрын

You rock 👍 thanks

@jammykam 4 күн бұрын

Great video, very informative and lots of details. Would it make sense to use an ExpoxyShield as the "base" and then a RockSolid clear topcoat, would it make it more durable or are the 2 products not compatible? Would you recommend another layer of clear topcoat every few years (5-10 years maybe?) thanks

@allgaragefloors 4 күн бұрын

Hi Jammykam. EpoxyShield and RockSolid are not compatible. You need to use one or the other as a system. EpoxyShield color coat with EpoxyShield clear coat for example. Same for RockSolid. If your goal is to achieve a longer wearing and more durable coating, then we don't recommend either of these products. There are much better coatings to choose from. The two we talk about here are the most well known since they can be found in home improvement centers. Check out our links in the KZfaq description for better options.

@Speak-Fearlessly 9 ай бұрын

Great review guys! Quick question: I’m prepping my floor with concrete degreaser. There are 3 spots I’ve been going over multiple times but when I spray water back on, the spots are still hydrophobic. Should I keep going over the spots until that stops or should I be fine at this point and should move on to acid?

@allgaragefloors 9 ай бұрын

Hi Mark. If the concrete repels water, then it will repel the coating. Go ahead and etch and then hit the spots again with a degreaser. The etching process opens the concrete pores and allows the degreaser to penetrate better. If you are still having problems with it, there are some good enzymatic oil cleaners that work, but they do require the time to do the job. We have an article about cleaning oil stains that you can read here: allgaragefloors.com/remove-oil-stains-from-your-garage-floor/

@dusk1947 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic video. I've been having this debate with myself about an upcoming basement floor renovation, and your comparison just alleviated several of my questions. I do have one follow up: Should we be concerned with using something like Concrete Moisture Stop Fortifying Sealer or another moisture barrier prior to either Rocksolid or EpoxyShield? My own application will likely be Rocksolid on a concrete basement pad, it doesn't have standing water or seepage but does have high humidity. From what I've read, the lack of a moisture barrier may lead to bubbling or delamination with other Epoxy coatings. I don't know whether that holds true for these two products.

@allgaragefloors Жыл бұрын

Yes, trapped moisture vapor below a coating can cause delamination issues. Whenever applying a coating to a basement, we highly recommend conducting a simple moisture test first. This article explains how and why it should be done: allgaragefloors.com/concrete-moisture-test/ If you do have moisture, then the next step is to conduct a calcium chloride test to determine how much moisture you have. Most coatings will only withstand up to 3 lbs. Moisture Stop is essentially a concrete densifier. It will slow down moisture intrusion and sometimes stop it, but it all depends on how much moisture vapor is getting through. The less moisture there is, the better it works.

@dusk1947 Жыл бұрын

@@allgaragefloors Thank you so much

@psfgtech 11 күн бұрын

Im really looking for indoor floors

@mgt7473 11 ай бұрын

I had to use two 2.5 garage kits for my two car garage. That’s right two 2.5 kits in order to get the high gloss finish. My concrete soaked up the polycuramine so much. But I expected this to happen with all the negative reviews I read. I doubled up and it looks gorgeous! Lay it on thick and back roll it until the roller starts to stick a little. Then finish rolling to remove roller marks.

@allgaragefloors 11 ай бұрын

Hi MGT. Yep, it's a common complaint that we talk about in our article. The problem with that though, is that it now cost more than a commercial quality single-part polyurea system that is twice as thick, more durable, and just as glossy.

@jakejake7162 9 ай бұрын

Can you put a concrete binder down or are you not supposed to put this kind of epoxy on a concrete binder( my slab is extra nasty from the last owner and is in a flood plain, so it’s a humid slab)

@allgaragefloors 9 ай бұрын

@@jakejake7162 Hi Jake. Concrete binder primers are not compatible with coatings. We discuss primers for DIY coatings in this article: allgaragefloors.com/epoxyshield-rocksolid-concrete-primers/

@cooldog60 7 ай бұрын

How many square ft. did 1 kit cover to get good coverage?

@melvinreed4136 10 ай бұрын

Great video. Will the EpoxyShield really cover a standard 2 car garage? Also, their clearcoat seems a bit expensive. Could you recommend less pricey one? Finally, if these two were not available, what low cost, DIY garage floor coating would you recommend?

@allgaragefloors 10 ай бұрын

Hi Melvin. The 2.5-car kit will cover up to 500 sq. ft. For the first coat on bare concrete, you need to reduce that number by 10% to account for the concrete surface. If it was a second coat, you can almost get the 500 sq. ft. The number one rule of clear coats is that they need to perform just as well if not better than the color coat. The clear coat is the one that gets the traffic and abuse. You never want to put an inferior clear coat over a color coat. It just reduces the overall performance of your coating. The EpoxyShield Clear is the proper clear coat to apply. It actually performs a bit better than the color coat since it's a 100% solids epoxy. The EpoxyShield line of epoxy coatings is one of the least expensive concrete coating products you can purchase for a garage floor.

@Dusdaddy 7 ай бұрын

Great information! Came across this as I have a brand new enclosed trailer that I want to coat the plywood floor. With the current temps like they are, looks like the Rocksolid will work fine. Total square area of the ramp and floor is 160SqFt. Being wood, should that be sufficient? Also, the ramp really needs to have good traction. Does the anti-skid additive really work well?

@allgaragefloors 7 ай бұрын

Wood can absorb more coating than concrete, so plan on two coats for a proper application. You will need to rough up the surface with 80-grit sandpaper for prep. The anti-slip media meets ADA requirements for a level surface. It needs to be added to the final coat. We would recommend increasing the amount used by 50%. for better traction on a ramp. Either that or you can use a more coarse aluminum oxide anti-slip. The downfall to that though is that it makes it harder to clean since wants to grab anything you use on the surface.

@Dusdaddy 7 ай бұрын

@@allgaragefloors Thanks for the reply!, I'll make sure it's roughed up and get extra Anti-skid. And I'll just get a 2.5 car kit to make sure I have plenty.

@shanependergrass6746 6 ай бұрын

Is there any clear coat sold in hardware stores/amazon that can be used as a topcoat for the epoxy shield and will reduce or prevent yellowing? I got a good deal on leftover epoxyshield from a friend and will be using for an enclosed trailer for my mowing business. The ramp will be opened and exposed to the sun constantly which is why I’m looking to reduce the yellowing. The trailer is basically new and hasn’t been used but one or two times. I have applied zinser bin on the floor assuming I would be using deck paint. Will this primer work with the epoxyshield as well?

@allgaragefloors 6 ай бұрын

Hi Shane. Any clear coat you apply will allow the UV rays to pass through to the epoxy coat and cause it to amber (yellow). Polyurethane and polyurea clear coats will not amber, but the epoxy will. This article explains more: allgaragefloors.com/why-epoxy-coatings-turn-yellow/

@Sussy-hotdog 27 күн бұрын

I'm going with Legacy Industrial Original PolyUrea. Their topcoat is a whopping 10-12 mil and UV resistant. I will be getting a commercial grade floor covering, and a better bang for my buck too at $169.00. Thanks for the great advice and the links to point me in the right direction..

@allgaragefloors 19 күн бұрын

We are glad to help!

@user-fv1zt8jk6h 2 ай бұрын

Great Video!! One question, i accidentally ordered Concreate & Garage Clear TopCoat instead of the Rock Solid Clear Coat. Can i use that instead of the Clear Coat of the RockSolid? Thank you

@allgaragefloors 2 ай бұрын

Hi Jaypee. Sorry I didn't reply sooner, but I missed your question. Hopefully you have not applied anything yet. DO NOT use the Concrete & Garage Clear TopCoat over RockSolid. It's not compatible and not nearly as durable.

@user-fv1zt8jk6h 2 ай бұрын

@@allgaragefloors thank you!!

@warhammer2779 4 ай бұрын

Fantastic comparison video! This is exactly what I needed. I'm using EpoxyShield and am now convinced I need to use a clear coat. QUESTION: What will happen if Epoxy Shield is laid down at temps lower than 60 degrees? Assumeb 50 to 60 degrees and about 55% humidity.

@allgaragefloors 4 ай бұрын

We are glad it helped. Do not apply EpoxyShield if the air temperature and/or temperature of the concrete will be below 60 degrees during application and while it cures ( minimum three days). Temperatures below 60 degrees slows the chemical curing reaction. You can end up with a gooey coating that will fail to harden. For the clear coat, we recommend the EpoxyShield Premium Clear Coat. You can usually find the best price here from Amazon: amzn.to/4aDZMXS

@warhammer2779 4 ай бұрын

@allgaragefloors Thanks. I might have screwed myself until next spring. Any idea of putting a heater in the garage will change the temp of the concrete? Room temp will be easy to manage.

@allgaragefloors 4 ай бұрын

Sorry for the late reply. Your comment was being held for some reason and we just found it. The most important temperature to pay attention to is the slab temp. That is the temperature that the epoxy will adopt within a few minutes of being applied. Warming the garage helps, but it takes time for the slab temp to rise. This is when it's a good idea to purchase a $20 infrared thermometer to see what the slab temp is before you begin heating. It can take upwards of a week for the surface temperature of the slab to come up. Also, pay close attention to areas near the garage door and man door. Cold, drafty air can run across those areas and affect how the epoxy cures compared to the rest of the floor.

@warhammer2779 4 ай бұрын

@allgaragefloors Yep, thought so. I have a laser temp reader and it's too cold. I'll bag the project until spring. I plan on putting in a weather barrier under the garage door to prevent dust and water encroachment. Thanks for the info. Saved me from a terrible clean-up effort!

@billprezioso3677 5 ай бұрын

There have always been contractors who claim Rock Solids coverage rate falls short of the information on the box

@user-lm5zw4qi2n 8 ай бұрын

Excellent video!! I bought a Rock Solid kit, color high-gloss tan, perhaps five years ago and I am just getting around to applying it. Two questions. 1. Does this product have a shelf life, or should the burst packets still be good to go? 2. My 2.5 car kit will cover 400 sq ft. My garage is close to 600 ft, which means I need to buy additional product. Rustoleum does not appear to make the tan Rock Solid anymore - it is not an option on the Home Depot website. Can I use Epoxy Shield to cover the balance of the garage? (The video suggests two coats to enhance the gloss; will that create an acceptable match? I am planning using the flakes, which may help to hide the change in color tone.)

@allgaragefloors 8 ай бұрын

Hi Brad. First and foremost, EpoxyShield is an epoxy coating and RockSolid is a polycuramine coating. They cannot be intermixed or used together in any way. They are both made by Rust-Oleum, but that is where the similarities end. RockSolid has a max shelf life of 60 months if it has been stored in the temperature range of 45-90 degrees. There is a very high chance that components have settled in the individual burst pouches. You would need to make sure that each burst pouch is massaged well to mix the components inside before breaking the seal to mix. Otherwise, you can have color and curing issues. RockSolid still makes gloss tan. You can find it here at Amazon: amzn.to/3sEdSak It's much cheaper than HomeDepot. Keep in mind that the two colors most likely will not match very well since the batches are almost 5 years apart. If you want to ensure a good color match, we recommend batch mixing. This requires cutting the corners of the colored resin burst pouches and mixing the two in a measured bucket. You then cut the corner of one pouch with the activator and pour it into a clean bucket. Add the proper measured amount from the mixed tan-colored bucket. Mix the two for a few minutes and then pour it out onto the concrete to apply. Once done, cut the corner of the remaining activator pouch and pour it into the tan color bucket, mix, and then apply. DO NOT mix two full kits together or the contents will get too warm and cure faster than you can apply it.

@Peter-ho8zs 9 ай бұрын

Great video but I still have one question… are they slippery when they’re wet? I’m using rock solid on a trailer floor, I was thinking about sprinkling a little sand or an anti-skid on it but if it’s not slippery I’d rather not.

@allgaragefloors 9 ай бұрын

Hi Peter. Yes, it will be slippery when wet. Each kit of RockSolid comes with anti-slip media. Just mix it into the final coat and you should be good.

@wassimnessim5379 7 ай бұрын

Hi , can i do epoxyshield and add clear coating or do the rocksolid which way is better for durability? I have 2 car garage 20ft x 20ft and thanks in advance your vedio was very helpful

@allgaragefloors 7 ай бұрын

I don't know what your question is exactly. You can apply whichever coating you prefer or your budget allows. The matching clear coat for each provides more durability as well as locks in and protects the color flakes. RockSolid is the more durable coating overall.

@BurstIntoFlames 11 ай бұрын

If I have a 3 car garage can I tape off the third stall to cover at a later date so I can move all my stuff from one side to the other or does the whole entire floor need to be done at once ?

@allgaragefloors 11 ай бұрын

Whenever doing a floor sections, you always want to use a natural barrier as a stopping/dividing point. For example, terminate the coating at any contraction joint or sawcut in the concrete. Otherwise, the taped off section will stand out like a sore thumb once completed. Coatings do not blend together like paint does on a wall. It will be obvious where once section meets up with another. Keep in mind that though you will be using the same color, it will still look slightly different than the rest of the floor.

@jamesstrauch1517 8 ай бұрын

my garage floor has moisture on it when it rains, what do i put down before the rocksolid to stop the moisture issue?do i also need to sand the floor first?

@allgaragefloors 8 ай бұрын

Hey James. First off... yes, you need to properly prep the surface of your concrete before applying a coating. RockSolid provides a citric acid etch in their kits. It sounds like you have a concrete sweating issue. I suggest reading the following article to help you determine if that is the case: allgaragefloors.com/how-to-stop-sweating-garage-floor/ If you have a sweating garage floor, then a coating will not stop it since it's a similar surface.

@KenCurrin 21 күн бұрын

Do you have any data on applying either product to plywood, such as a floor in an enclosed cargo trailer?

@allgaragefloors 20 күн бұрын

Hi Ken. Both can be applied to a wood floor. It requires roughing up the surface with 60-80 grit sandpaper to remove any dirt and grime plus leftover contaminants from wood glue. RockSolid is the better choice of the two in terms of durability. Many times it requires two coats since wood is a more porous surface than concrete and both RockSolid and EpoxyShield are thin coatings. As a result, it typically requires two single car kits or one 2.5 car kit (2 burst pouches). The reason for this is that you can't let the mixed product sit the minimum 6-8 hours between recoats. An anti-slip media is required for the final coat or the surface will be very slippery when wet. There are much better coatings than these two that you could use. One example is single-part polyurea. It goes down much thicker, it does not require mixing two components (other than the color pack), it's UV stable, and much more durable. Plus, you can apply a single coat, seal the can back up, and then apply another coat 5-6 hours later. It actually costs less since you don't have to purchase as much material. We provide more details about single-part polyurea as well as links where you can purchase it here: allgaragefloors.com/polyurea-best-garage-floor-coating-kits/

@jkahn923 3 ай бұрын

Love the rec for TS210! Will decide that or epoxyshield since it’s a rental and no car will be stored. Can you recommend a good degrease to prep concrete? Harbor Frieght, Zep, etc? What are your thoughts about rust oleums 3-1? Looks like it can degrease and etch all in one…

@allgaragefloors 3 ай бұрын

Hi Jared. We are not fans of products like 3-1. They are like a Jack of all trades - they are masters at none. If the concrete needs degreasing, use a degreaser for the best results. Our favorites are Oil Eater and Purple Power. EpoxyShield comes with an etching solution in the kit. If you apply TS210, etching is not required in most circumstances.

@edpocoski2421 Жыл бұрын

I thought the Rustoleum primer on previous painted floor can be used it is about $70 a gallon and then the Rocksolid over it .I was told at a paint store is this correct

@allgaragefloors Жыл бұрын

Hi Ed. That is correct as long as certain conditions exist. The first of which is that the current paint must be sound and fully adhered to the concrete. We tell you everything you need to know about Rust-Oleum Recoat Primer in our article here: allgaragefloors.com/rustoleum-garage-floor-primer/

@MatthewSmith-vb1ph 6 ай бұрын

I have the rustoleom epoxy shield painting kit,can i then use the rock solid clear coat over that?

@allgaragefloors 6 ай бұрын

Hi Matthew. No, Rust-Oleum specifically states that the two kits are not compatible when applying within the recoat window. However, if you let the EpoxyShield cure completely, you can go back over it with 120-grit sandpaper to rough it up and then apply the RockSolid kit over it.

@rogerjohnston9545 2 ай бұрын

What are your thouhts about using recoat primer as a substute to grinding? I appreciate your video, very informative.

@allgaragefloors 2 ай бұрын

Hi Roger. The primary purpose for Rust-Oleum Recoat Primer is to use it on bare concrete that has been sealed or older coatings (still adhered well) that will received a new coat. It is not a substitute for good floor prep for standard bare concrete. It's an acrylic product and does not adhere as strongly as RockSolid or EpoxyShield. If you were thinking of grinding your concrete for prep, there are much better products available to the public from concrete coating vendors online that perform so much better than these two. We can make recommendations if you are not aware of any.

@rogerjohnston9545 2 ай бұрын

@@allgaragefloors my garage, 18 years old, it is very clean, I don’t work in it as I have a shop. The garage has a one step epoxy on it that looks new in places and worn off in others. As a DYI, I saw some tubers skipping grinding, degreasing, and acid cleaning. My fingers were crossed hoping to go that way. From what you said, it might not be a good idea. Thanks for your quick reply.

@allgaragefloors 2 ай бұрын

@@rogerjohnston9545 Yeah, there are a few DIY videos out there of people not doing the proper prep. Unfortunately, it just creates problems down the road with coatings peeling up for people who watch those videos thinking they can do the same. You just can't take shortcuts when it comes to coatings. 1-part epoxy is just acrylic concrete paint with 2-4% epoxy resin added. If you aren't parking your car in the garage, the cheapest and easiest solution is to just scrape the surface to remove any loose paint, lightly scuff the remainder with 150-grit sandpaper, and then apply more 1-part epoxy. If you want to apply RockSolid, EpoxyShield, or a better coating product, it's best to remove the paint first. How well a coating adheres depends on what it is adhered to. I hope that helps.

@badristraveldairy5362 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the Great video and it help me decide on epoxy to rock-solid iam gong with rock-solid and had a question for you do you recommend clear coat after rock-solid epoxy ? is that beneficial ?

@allgaragefloors 8 ай бұрын

Yes, a clear coat is always beneficial. It locks in the color flakes and helps to protect the color coat.

@badristraveldairy5362 8 ай бұрын

Sure thanks @@allgaragefloors

@badristraveldairy5362 8 ай бұрын

can u please advise me which one to use for clear coat for 2 garage i see textured coat and clear coat and its confusing

@allgaragefloors 8 ай бұрын

@@badristraveldairy5362 Use the standard clear coat and not the textured. The textured version is much less glossy.

@nicholasgranat2999 6 ай бұрын

Very informative

@allgaragefloors 6 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@DaKeithCody Ай бұрын

@allgaragefloors How long should I wait after the EpoxyShield color coat to apply the clear coat?

@allgaragefloors Ай бұрын

You need to wait a minimum of 10-12 hours between coats. You have up to 4 days to apply additional coats before further surface prep is required.

@victorfountain7873 10 ай бұрын

I plan on using a floor coating on a freshly poured shed slab that has a pretty rough surface. will this help smooth it out if I put it on thick?

@allgaragefloors 10 ай бұрын

Hi Victor. What do you mean by pretty rough? Does it have a broom finish or a bad, rough finish? If it's a bad, rough finish, most coatings cannot be applied thick enough. Especially RockSolid. However, 100% solid epoxy can be applied fairly thick. There is no water or solvents to evaporate out and cause bubbles or curing issues.

@victorfountain7873 10 ай бұрын

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@prodrain7777 10 ай бұрын

with all the comments about running out or low on product... is there a recommended primer to put down before putting down the rock solid so is doesnt soak into the concrete with the first coat

@allgaragefloors 10 ай бұрын

Primers for coatings are actual coatings. They aren't paint or concrete primer paint which are not compatible. EpoxyShield, RockSolid, etc. are thin residential coatings that are similar to the actual 2-part epoxy coating primers used for application of the better commercial quality coatings. The first coat of RockSolid acts like a primer if a second coat is required. This is why we recommend the better coatings in the video description above. There are links there to learn more.

@zachleerubin5656 5 ай бұрын

Great vid! I just put Rock Solid in a basement work shop. The concrete which was about 50 years old, was recently ground down to a smooth-ish surface. I had 340 SF to cover, I used the 2.5 garage pack. The results were terrible. Extremely blotchy/patchy. The only good news is that Rustoleum is going to pay for a second 2.5 kit as they say that the only option is to add another coat. I am within the recoat window, so we should be good. Here is the bigger issue though. After applying it, I realize that I really don't like the glossy look. It literally reflects the bright LED lights in the ceiling so well that I can barely see when I am in there. Do you know of a way to reduce the gloss? Maybe sanding it (lightly) after its all done? Let me know. Thanks!

@allgaragefloors 4 ай бұрын

Hi Zach. Sorry for the late reply. We found your comment being held for review for some reason. The best way to reduce the gloss is to apply the RockSolid Clear coat with anti-slip media added. The clear coat is less glossy than the color coat and the anti-slip media will cut down on some of the gloss as well.

@brucewoodward7207 3 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@allgaragefloors 3 ай бұрын

Happy to help!

@adamhapper6706 Ай бұрын

I have a year and half old home. The garage floor is pretty clean other than some dirt tracked in from other homes being built on the block. I have a couple hairline cracks here and there. It's a two car garage with a 4 foot wide extension. I figure maybe 450 sf and I have some 4" cement boarders before the sheetrocked walls. Puddles form from rain off my vehicles so I believe I'd have to etch the floor first, would you agree? I think the 500sf full broadcast option would suffice. Do you agree?

@allgaragefloors Ай бұрын

Hello Adam. Regardless of whether the concrete is new or old, it absolutely must be etched at a minimum. Puddles forming are not an indicator of whether or not concrete has a proper profile. We have a video that explains why concrete prep is essential here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ebNkormSr92uaZs.htmlsi=roScTPv2p2Ni77oq A full broadcast option is excellent at hiding small hairline cracks and other small imperfections in the concrete. However, I hope you are not referring to RockSolid or EpoxyShield for a full broadcast. It will not work. At only 3 mils dry film thickness, they are far too thin to accept all those color flakes. In addition, the amount of clear coat kits you would need to purchase to properly cover the flakes puts you in the commercial quality price range for materials. There is a reason these kits only come with a small bag of color flakes to apply. There are far better DIY kits that provide the proper epoxy primer, high solids (3-4x thicker) epoxy color coats, and two coats of a high-performance clear that will not amber (turn yellow) from exposure to sunlight. Here is an example of such a kit: bit.ly/4abJGUV If you have any questions, just let us know.

@adamhapper6706 Ай бұрын

@@allgaragefloors Yes, I watched the video and realized cant have a full broadcast with Rock/Exopy. I recall hearing if water puddles on your garage floor, it is not pourous and must be etched, just wasn't absolutly positive. My garage floor has a slight scheen to it, I think they buffed it somewhat after it was poured, or it's a different kind of concrete then the foundation. I went on you website and have the High Solids DIY kit saved with tan base anbd shorline #10 flakes. I'm thinking the 500 sf FB with topcoat should suffice. Thanks for your reply.

@geraldarcuri9307 5 күн бұрын

Rustoleum has a new primer product that can be used over any surface to prep it for either of these finish products. If this primer is used first, it will help with coverage of the final epoxy / polycuramine.

@allgaragefloors 5 күн бұрын

Hi Gerald. If you are referring to the Rust-Oleum Concrete & Garage Recoat Primer, it can only be used on previously sealed concrete or coated surfaces in good condition. It can't be used on any surface, especially bare, untreated concrete. We don't mean to be sticklers, but such vague statements create unwanted problems for DIY installers unfamiliar with coatings.

@user-pi3eo1nf6d 2 ай бұрын

I applied epoxy shield on my garage floor about 5 years ago and is starting to look bad, ( not too much tire pick up) I want to reapply and paint chip again. Can I get by just sanding the floor and reapply? Thanks for your video

@allgaragefloors 2 ай бұрын

Hi Robert. Yes, you can sand with 150-grit sandpaper. Vac/sweep the surface and then wipe it down with denatured alcohol or equivalent before applying the new coating. We have an article about how to recoat older epoxy floors here: allgaragefloors.com/prep-older-epoxy-for-new-coat/

@mickronnebaum3401 11 ай бұрын

Can I use the Recoat primer on wood? For a trailer floor.

@allgaragefloors 11 ай бұрын

Hi Mick. No, Rust-Oleum Recoat Primer is not for wood. It is designed to be applied to older coatings that are adhered well or bare concrete that has been previously sealed (not bare unsealed concrete). It's not like a primer for paint that can be applied to most surfaces. If you are applying RockSolid or EpoxyShield to wood, it will require that the surface be clean and roughed up with 60-grit sandpaper first. A minimum of two coats will need to be applied as well. Otherwise, the wood will absorb more of the coating and it will be too thin. The color and gloss will look blotchy and faded in areas.

@Dean5073 9 ай бұрын

I have a few cracks in my garage floor that after a heavy rain moisture comes up from them. With that known is rocksolid the better pic

@allgaragefloors 9 ай бұрын

Hi Dean. Neither is a good pic. Coatings are not crack repair products. Any cracks in the concrete need to be chased and repaired with the proper material. We have an article that discusses repairs here: allgaragefloors.com/concrete-floor-repair/ More concerning, however, is the fact that you have water coming up through the cracks. Coatings are not very tolerant of moisture. If you have moisture coming up through cracks, then you need to moisture test to determine if your floor is a candidate for a coating: allgaragefloors.com/concrete-moisture-test/

@ashokattluri 11 ай бұрын

Great video .. Is seal necessary after rock-shield epoxy installation ?

@allgaragefloors 11 ай бұрын

RockSolid is a coating and sealer. It's not mandatory, but there are advantages to applying RockSolid Clear Coat if that is what you mean. It will lock in and protect the color flakes and color coat. This article here explains the advantages of a clear coat:allgaragefloors.com/clear-coat-your-epoxy-floor/

@218philip Ай бұрын

UV light will change the color where the sun shines, the clear coat will prevent that.

@ScottEla-yy1cc Ай бұрын

Planing on Using rock solid with a full broadcast chip, Scape off loose chips 24 hrs later and then top coat with rock solid clear. Also have some half walls I’m planing on doing. 2 car garage but I’ve purchased two 2.5 kits and two kits of top coat. Any issue you see I may run into?

@allgaragefloors Ай бұрын

Hi Scott. No.... DO NOT use RockSolid for a full broadcast color flake application. There is a reason why these kits only come with a limited amount of color flakes. The coating is far to thin to accept all those flakes. Once you apply the flakes and then scrape them as required, you will have bare spots with the color coat showing. Full broadcast applications are for coating with a MINIMUM of 5-6 mils dry film thickness. High solids and 100% solids epoxy are typically 8-12 mils thick and most commonly used for full flake applications. RockSolid is only 3 mils. The color flakes when applied add approximately 5 mils of thickness. As a result, there is not enough RockSolid for the color flakes to sink into and adhere. Furthermore, you would require a minimum of 4 RockSolid clear kits to properly cover all those flakes since they go on half as thick as the color coats. The overall cost ends up being too expensive and underperforms since it's only a residential quality coating to begin with. Here is an example of a proper garage floor coating kit for full color flake application: bit.ly/4abJGUV

@ScottEla-yy1cc Ай бұрын

Thank you, I reached out to garage flooring and they helped me get me the product I need for the results I am looking for! Had not been for Your video I may have made a terrible mistake. Many thanks.

@allgaragefloors Ай бұрын

@@ScottEla-yy1cc I'm glad we were able to steer you in the right direction. It's one reason we started our website and KZfaq channel. There are so many more products available for the DIY consumer that are so much better than what you can get at your local home improvement centers.

@victormunoz4878 9 ай бұрын

Can you use the epoxy clear coat on the rock solid ?

@allgaragefloors 9 ай бұрын

Hi Victor. No, Rust-Oleum states you should not intermix epoxy with RockSolid polycuramine and vice versa.

@pgnandt 2 ай бұрын

Large airplane hangar with black epoxy floor. Could I use a walk behind floor cleaner with the EpoxyShield? Red 3M pad to clean and dry burnish with white 3M? Maybe?

@allgaragefloors 2 ай бұрын

Hello Paul. We would not recommend EpoxyShield for a large airplane hanger if that is what you are considering. It is a residential quality product and among the lowest performers of all epoxy floor coatings. Cleaning with a Red 3M pad is OK, but you need to be careful about burnishing. If the white pad gets too warm it can haze the finish. That particular cleaning process works OK for commercial-quality coatings, but is not recommended for EpoxyShield or other residential coatings.

@rcarioca 6 ай бұрын

Will concrete patch like top and bond adhere on top of an epoxy crack repair ?

@allgaragefloors 4 ай бұрын

It will as long as it is roughed up with 60-80 grit sandpaper first.

@kylethomas2170 9 ай бұрын

If i grind the concrete first should i use a primer? If so what kind?

@allgaragefloors 9 ай бұрын

Hi Kyle. Rust-Oleum does not recommend grinding the concrete when using RockSolid. The reason is that the more porous surface will absorb more material, reduce coverage rates, and be too thin with a poor finish. A second coat is required to produce the recommended coverage rates with a rich, glossy finish. This doubles the expense and ends up costing more than much better commercial-quality DIY polyurea coating. True primers for coatings are 2-part epoxy coating primers. These are typically used for high solids and 100% solids epoxy coatings (3-4x thicker than RockSolid). Concrete bonding primers or any other concrete primer found at your local home improvement stores are not compatible with coatings (they are for paint) and should not be used. They do not bond as well and the coating will not adhere properly.

@DJMEDIC671 2 ай бұрын

Which one would you use on a 6x10 trailer if you were to go with the industrial kits?

@allgaragefloors 2 ай бұрын

If I had to choose between the two, I would use RockSolid. However, if I had a different choice, I would use a commercial-quality kit that includes an epoxy primer and 100% solids epoxy. Here is an example: rb.gy/4dldbd You have an option of adding color flakes and clear coat. Just the epoxy primer and 100% solids epoxy would be over 5x thicker than either Rust-Oleum product.

@DJMEDIC671 2 ай бұрын

@@allgaragefloors Thanks… t hat’s what I meant to say when I asked industrial vs the commercial kits. Half asleep. Thanks I’ll look into that link. Most of the videos I’ve seen of trailers with the ” rust o kits” they make it sound to good to be true. And they ain’t cheap.

@SpaceNinja321 9 сағат бұрын

So, we already had purchased the EpoxyShield kit for our floor (tinted so non-returnable). What would be the best way to try and improve on the issues this one has, either in prior prep or after? I already heard elsewhere to use muriatic acid to etch instead of what is in the kit. And while the epoxy clear coat won’t help much, could we use the polycuramine clear coat later on with additional prep somehow? Or whatever else you would recommend, because we WILL have cars in that garage.

@allgaragefloors 7 сағат бұрын

Better floor prep will help to some extent. We have an article on how to properly acid etch here: allgaragefloors.com/acid-etch-garage-floor/ However, it will reduce the coverage rate by approximately 10% since more material will be absorbed by the concrete. In terms of a clear coat, we would recommend EpoxyShield Premium Clear Coat over RockSolid. Amazon has the best price: amzn.to/44XOlb5 The reason for EpoxyShield over RockSolid is that it will achieve a chemical bond to the color coat when applied during the recoat window. This bond is much better than a mechanical bond which is required when applying a non-compatible coating (RockSolid) or additional coatings outside the recoat window. When applied at 250 square feet per kit, it will achieve a dry film thickness that is 3x thicker than RockSolid as well. Because EpoxyShield Premium Clear Coat is 100% solids, it will help to resist the heat from hot tires that softens the thinner, water-based color coat.

@southcreekoutfitters Ай бұрын

Could I add this to my wood floor in my cargo trader? Just purchased a new one and looking to put a floor covering on.

@allgaragefloors Ай бұрын

Yes, you can. It requires sanding the wood surface with 60 grit before applying it. Two coats are typically required as well.

@cheers0521 8 ай бұрын

I rented a grinder and grinded the concrete in my oversized garage. I purchased Rust-Oleum's 2.5 car garage Epoxy Shield kit..My question, since I grinded will I need more of the epoxy shield product or should I be looking at some kind of compatible primer? I'm also planning on placing a top coat over it. Thank you for the video and any direction you can provide me with.

@allgaragefloors 8 ай бұрын

Hi Billy. The 2.5 car kit will cover up to 500 square feet depending on porosity. This means that it might go 500 square feet if applied over another coating, 450 square feet on etched concrete and even less on concrete treated via grinding. I'm not sure what your square footage is, but you most likely will need two coats. The first will act as the primer coat and not look very good. The second will add thickness and the proper color uniformity. Use the EpoxyShield Clear Coat for your topcoat since it is compatible. You have up to four days to apply it after the last color coat. This article talks about primer coats for DIY home improvement store coatings: allgaragefloors.com/epoxyshield-rocksolid-concrete-primers/

@cheers0521 8 ай бұрын

@@allgaragefloors much appreciated. I'm going with your recommendation.

@Davan514 Ай бұрын

So in a nutshell. I better leave my garage floor as it is without going with all the fuss of applying stuff who doesn’t last long. One question though: how come dealer’s car floor are so solid in terms of quality coat on their floor?

@gjf6442 Ай бұрын

Thanks for the intell..!! I found you response to another question about prepping old epoxy floors but still have a question; if the surface is 99% epoxy, is the acid wash needed..? I want to apply a thicker and more thorough this time; I was thinking a squeegeeing it on this time; any input...? If i were to do 2 coats, would you recommend rolling first (thinner); squeegee the second; thicker (if squeeg is an option) What nap roller do you recommend..? the clear (2.5 car) comes with 90 oz only and claims to cover the same as the240oz paint coat; is this accurate..? Any reco on applying clear coat thicker...? Also; thoughts on flakes on top of the clear coat...? TIA

@allgaragefloors Ай бұрын

Etching solutions and acid etches have no effect on floor coatings. They need to come in contact with the minerals in concrete to work. Roughing up the surface with 120-150 grit sandpaper is required. We have an article here that discusses how to prep old epoxy floors: allgaragefloors.com/prep-older-epoxy-for-new-coat/ DO NOT try to apply EpoxyShield thick. It's a budget, water-based epoxy coating that will not cure properly and form bubbles. Only high solids and 100% solids epoxy coatings can be applied thickly or with a squeegee. Two coats of EpoxyShield applied with a 3/8" nap roller are what you need. Make sure to wait a minimum of 12 hours before applying the second coat. The clear coat material is more expensive so Rust-Oleum provides less of it to keep costs down. As a result, the dry film thickness is far too thin to get good performance. We recommend using two kits. However, once you start adding up the costs for doubling up budget kits, you are close to the cost for a commercial quality DIY epoxy coating system that is three times thicker and will last 10-15 years.

@gjf6442 Ай бұрын

@@allgaragefloors Thanks mucho... glad you saved me that mistake.. I saw a video that said, if you hear the roller stickiness, as you roll, the roller is too dry; accurate..? Also, I have 2 kits of the clear, same rolling it on question for thickness..? (I'm a smart shopper, 2 for 175 🥳) roughly 525 sq ft coverage needed TIA again

@allgaragefloors Ай бұрын

@@gjf6442 Yes, that is correct. If you the roller is making noise, then you are stretching the coating thin. Same for the clear coat.

@willboyd8021 8 ай бұрын

OK I paint the garage floor first with Bert primer 902 slate gray garage floor paint add my flakes and about to add high gloss 2 part Epoxy clearcoat is that correct and tips on making it last longer? last time I use this product the hot tires pulled it up the Epoxy and the paint should I purchase another type of clearcoat and if so, what type should I get?

@allgaragefloors 8 ай бұрын

Hi Will. The first thing we want to state is that paint applied to concrete will peel from hot tires - period. Even if a good clear coat is applied, the tires adhere to the clear coat which is adhered to the paint which is adhered to the concrete. The paint is the weak link and pulls up from the concrete when this happens. It's like building a nice house on a sand foundation. You need a proper concrete coating (not paint) with the proper concrete prep to avoid hot tire pickup. Regarding clear coats for paint and 1-part epoxy paint, we have a video here that will answer all of your questions: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbF9rbl0yrWWZ2Q.htmlsi=x2YwJTS2PflHL5oG

@willboyd8021 8 ай бұрын

@@allgaragefloors I did rent a sander and sander to sand the floor down first do you still think it will peel after I sand the floor down?

@allgaragefloors 8 ай бұрын

Paint on concrete that is driven on by a car will peel, despite how well it is prepped. It just cannot adhere as well as a high-performing epoxy or similar coating. It's too thin and does not have the heat tolerance. You may delay it for a while, but unfortunately, it will still happen at some point.

@willboyd8021 8 ай бұрын

@@allgaragefloors OK what clearcoat can I use, so that does not happen when I drive on i’m going to contact epoxy Floor coating and purchase their clearcoat

@allgaragefloors 8 ай бұрын

@@willboyd8021 If you put a good epoxy clear coat over paint, hot tires will pull everything up at some point. If you are going to apply a 2-part epoxy color coat to properly prepared bare concrete, then use the clear coat the manufacturer sells to accompany it.

@emcinc9654 4 ай бұрын

We live in a home that was built 7 years ago. The builder used Rustoleum epoxy. I think back then Rustoleum came in just a few colors. Ours is a light tan or beige. There is bout 6 tire burns on the floor. We are selling the house and I would like to grind what’s left of the epoxy off in those 6 areas and re-coat with hopefully a good color match

@allgaragefloors 4 ай бұрын

Rust-Oleum purchased the company that produced RockSolid in 2014, so there is a chance it's either EpoxyShield or RockSolid that was applied. If had a very glossy finish, then it most likely was RockSolid. You can patch repair the area as you indicated. However, even if you figured out which color tan was used, it still won't match up well. Cured coatings and coating repairs do not blend well together like paint on a wall does. Overlap marks will be evident and the color tone and gloss is always different. So, you need to decide which is the less of the two evils - the burn marks or repairs that stand out. Either that or place a car parking mat over that area.

@emcinc9654 4 ай бұрын

@@allgaragefloors it was not a gloss finish

@allgaragefloors 4 ай бұрын

@@emcinc9654 Then what you most likely need is EpoxyShield in the Tan color. EpoxyShield states it is a gloss finish, but it actually looks matte or satin after it cures. Not being glossy is a common complaint for EpoxyShield.

@ZachSmith9996 3 ай бұрын

Can you use the epoxy shield clear coat on top of the rock solid main coat?

@allgaragefloors 3 ай бұрын

Hi Zach. Rust-Oleum explicitly states not to intermix the two products. They are not chemically compatible. EpoxyShield is an epoxy coating and RockSolid is a polycuramine coating. RockSolid clear is better performing and longer lasting of the two clear coats.

@mikeshell6955 2 ай бұрын

Can you use the color chips on the rock solid

@allgaragefloors 2 ай бұрын

@@mikeshell6955 Hi Mike. You can use the color flakes. They are included with the kit.

@terrymiller9788 3 ай бұрын

Looking to coat my basment with something and was planning to go with one of these 2. Only foot traffic and dog toe nails to defend against. Is there something better and can it be painted in 2 separate sections after 1 section dries?

@allgaragefloors 3 ай бұрын

Hi Terry. There are definitely epoxy products that are much better than these if that is what you are asking. A basement must have a low VOC coating so a 100% solids epoxy would be the best. A single coat is 4x thicker than either of the Rust-Oleum products. If you want to choose between the Rust-Oleum products, we would recommend EpoxyShield. It has a satin finish and will not show the scratches from dog nails like the very glossy RockSolid will.

@terrymiller9788 3 ай бұрын

@@allgaragefloors what other products would u recommend?

@allgaragefloors 3 ай бұрын

@@terrymiller9788 The Colored Epoxies brand is a good example for a basement. It's available in multiple colors other than gray and tan. You can find it here on Amazon: amzn.to/3HDEBYA

@terrymiller9788 3 ай бұрын

@allgaragefloors thanks alot

@y2kxj 14 күн бұрын

How long should you wait to coat a brand new cement floor

@allgaragefloors 14 күн бұрын

You need to wait a minimum of 30 days before etching and coating a typical 4" thick concrete slab that has been freshly poured.

@philh1826 Ай бұрын

Can polycuramine be patched? Or can I put a new coat over the old coat. I have a 3 year old coat and my offroad truck tire pulled some off. Im willing to buy from you.

@allgaragefloors Ай бұрын

Polycuramine does not suffer hot tire pickup. If the tire pulled the coating up, then that means the concrete was not properly prepared via cleaning and etching. You can apply a new coating over the old. It requires roughing up the old coating with 120-150 grit sandpaper first. Any exposed concrete needs to be etched well or the coating will suffer the same problem.

@philh1826 Ай бұрын

@allgaragefloors thanks for the response. The bare concrete floor on the new build was degreased and etched, but it was put down during near freezing temperatures. Mind you, my truck does have beefy offroad tires, and we did experience very high temps near 120 (Vegas). I believe it happened after the tires were wet and sat there for a couple days. Do you have a link to the poly I can put over it? Do you recommend 2 coats?

@allgaragefloors Ай бұрын

@@philh1826 Hi Phil. When you say "poly, " do you mean the Rock Solid Polycuramine or a polyurea concrete coating? Polycurmain and polyurea are two completely different materials in terms of properties and performance. Also, polycuramine (RockSolid) has a minimum application and curing temperature of 40 degrees. If you were near freezing, then the temps were too low. This can compromise the coating and cause adhesion issues among other things. You may want to think twice about coating over it since it means that you would be applying a good coating over one that is compromised. The same thing may happen again. Tires will grab the new coating and pull it up since it is attached to the old compromised coating and not bare concrete.

@philh1826 Ай бұрын

Thanks so much for the response. It was the rock solid. It's held up well except for where my tires rest. Do you have an email I can contact you on and provide photos? I very much appreciate your time and guidance.

@allgaragefloors Ай бұрын

@@philh1826 Hi Phil. Just visit our website. We have a contact button at the bottom. allgaragefloors.com

@SuperSirhammer 8 ай бұрын

I was in the process of preparing my floor to put down RockSolid, but stopped because the directions say not to coat over or roll over "control joints". What does that mean? You mention using it over contraction joints and sawcuts, how are they different? My floor has sawcuts every 8 feet and they are filled with a special component made for expansion, can I use RockSolid or is there a different product I need to use?

@allgaragefloors 8 ай бұрын

Great question. What they mean by that statement is don't use RockSolid to try and fill saw cuts, troweled contraction joints, or expansion joints. Different material fillers need to be used for that. However, it's standard practice to run a brush down the middle of a troweled contraction joint to coat the concrete, but not fill the joint. For saw cut joints, run the roller close to the edge so that some coating flows over it. You just don't want to waist a bunch of coating running down into the saw cut.

@SuperSirhammer 8 ай бұрын

That makes sense. My saw cuts were filled with a special rubberized joint compound right after they were cut. This compound extends up higher than the concrete in most areas. What is the best way to bring it down flush with the surface of the concrete? Is there a tool for removing the excess? Also my floor has fiberglass strands added and they are above the surface, should I try to remove them or will the epoxy cover them?

@allgaragefloors 8 ай бұрын

@@SuperSirhammer Fiberglass strands will stand proud and stick up out of the coating when it's rolled on. They need to be removed. It can be done via sanding or burned off with a propane weed torch. The material sticking up out of the saw cuts can be removed with a razor blade tool or via grinding.

@SuperSirhammer 8 ай бұрын

Thank you very much. You are the best source of information I have seen.

@jpavlik04 5 ай бұрын

The EpoxyShield 2.5 car premium topcoat epoxy says 15x more durable instead of 5x, and High Gloss instead of just Gloss. In what ways is it chemically different, and is it more like RockSolid?

@allgaragefloors 5 ай бұрын

Hi Jonathan. The EpoxyShield Premium Clear Topcoat is a 100% solids epoxy. There are no solvents or water to evaporate out. The standard water-based EpoxyShield color coat kits are just over a 50% solids and use a very old epoxy formulation. That is why the Premium Clear coat is more durable. However, we do not recommend using one kit for 500 square feet. It results in a coverage rate that is far too thin. And no, it is not similar to RockSolid. RockSolid is a Polycuramine coating and not epoxy. I suggest you read our article and review or RockSolid to learn more about it. You can find it here: allgaragefloors.com/rocksolid-polycuramine-garage-floor-coat/ I hope that helps.

@dennisgray8027 11 ай бұрын

What would be the product recommendation for oudoor patio area?

@allgaragefloors 11 ай бұрын

Hi Dennis. What is it that you want to do for the patio exactly?

@dennisgray8027 11 ай бұрын

Concrete is 20ish years old, has some cracks I'm going to fill. Going to be a sitting and gathering area with a griddle on it. Just looking for something reasonably reliable without breaking the bank.

@allgaragefloors 11 ай бұрын

@@dennisgray8027 Acrylic coatings work best for patios and walkways. They are U.V. stable and easy to apply. We suggest you take a look at DeltaDye OneStep tinted sealer by Legacy Industrial. It's a robust acrylic sealer heavily tinted with DeltaDye Color Stain. It's not quite a completely solid color and is somewhat translucent. It's a popular type of decorative coating that brings out the character of the concrete. You can find it here: bit.ly/3XcuMrx

@edstricker4482 2 ай бұрын

You mentioned that there is a better polyurea DIY product than RockSoild. I went on your website, but could not see the products you recommend. Can you point me to a few Polyurea product that you would recommend for DIY?

@allgaragefloors 2 ай бұрын

Hi Ed. We have multiple links to articles and product in the Description section below the video. You can also click on the following link which leads to an article about the polyurea products we recommend and why: allgaragefloors.com/polyurea-best-garage-floor-coating-kits/ We list vendors we recommend in the article along with links that take you to their purchase pages.

@remiroy6033 8 ай бұрын

What is your opinion of Stone Coat Flooring Epoxy kit?

@remiroy6033 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for that great informative video!

@allgaragefloors 8 ай бұрын

It's much better than RockSolid if that is what you are asking. Their kits are a system of products, unlike RockSolid which is a single coating.

@mikeswiney5317 Ай бұрын

How well does Rocksolid work on wood floor in a car hauler.

@allgaragefloors Ай бұрын

Hi Mike. It does OK, but not great. You will need to sand the wood with 60-grit sandpaper first before applying a coating. Due to how thin RockSolid is, it will require a minimum of two coats. The problem is that though a single-car kit will provide enough material for two coats in terms of the square footage, the remaining material that is mixed can't wait for the minimum 6 hours before a second coat is applied. It will require buying a 2.5-car kit since there are two mix pouches with those. You would be better off buying a gallon of single-part polyurea instead. You only use what you need for the first coat, close the can, and then use more for the second coat. Plus, it's thicker than RockSolid and will last longer. We have links for it in the description below the video.

@1corsair 6 ай бұрын

I'm turning one bay of my garage into a woodshop. Should I go to the expense and effort to put down a coating on the floor? If so, it is a new build. Do I need to clean/degrease and/or acid etch for prep?

@allgaragefloors 6 ай бұрын

If the floor will be exposed to wood stains, solvents, and other chemicals involved with wood working, then a floor coating has it's advantages. Any spilled stains or chemicals can be wiped up without worry of it staining. General cleanup is much easier as well. We would recommend using the supplied anti-slip media since sawdust can get real slippery on a coating. Brand new or old concrete prep involves degreasing and using the supplied Eco friendly etching solution. If you don't need a color coat, then we recommend looking at a product called TS210. It's a clear protective sealer that can be applied without etching the concrete. You can learn about it here: allgaragefloors.com/ts210-concrete-sealer-review/

@HeyEricGardiner 3 ай бұрын

What do you think about doing the rocksolid floor coating kit and then adding a top coat of the epoxy shield clear coat. Sounds like it could be a winning combo?

@allgaragefloors 3 ай бұрын

Hello Eric. No, it's not the best choice. RockSolid Polycuramine and EpoxyShield epoxy are not chemically compatible. Rust-Oleum explicitly states not to use one over the other during the recoat window. To use the EpoxyShield Clear Coat, you would need to let the RockSolid coat cure, then prep the surface by roughing it up with 150-grit sandpaper so the EpoxyShield could obtain a mechanical bond. Additionally, RockSolid Clear Coat has a better abrasion rating than EpoxyShield and will wear better. The number one rule for clear coats is that they should perform just as well if not better than the color coat. The clear coat is the one that takes all the abuse and protects the color coat.

@HeyEricGardiner 3 ай бұрын

@@allgaragefloors So what is the best way to clear coat after the RockSolid epoxy w flakes? Or is a clear coat not that necessary?

@allgaragefloors 3 ай бұрын

@@HeyEricGardiner I think you missed it in my last comment :). Use the RockSolid Clear Coat. It can be directly applied to the color coat and flakes a minimum of 6 hours after the color coat. RockSolid provides a maximum time of up to 7 days for additional applications.

@HeyEricGardiner 3 ай бұрын

@@allgaragefloors Thanks for the clear answer. Very awesome.

@218philip Ай бұрын

I used the polycuramine on the floor of the back room and delivery door of my liquor store, it showed no wear after many years of heavy traffic. I would never use epoxy again.

@billhaley8873 7 ай бұрын

One benefit of Rock Solid is the warranty. I bought a 2 car kit and the color in the pouches did not match after I applied it. A call to Rustoleum and a picture showing the difference and they offered to refund my money or send me a new kit.

@allgaragefloors 7 ай бұрын

Yes, Rust-Oleum has always had fairly good customer service.

@user-zp5vb9zg9f 11 ай бұрын

can you apply a huge amount of chips then clear coat it so that it looks like a "gator like finish"

@allgaragefloors 11 ай бұрын

Hi Ronald. You can apply a heavier amount of color flakes as long as you can still see the base color coat and the flakes don't overlap too much. However, RockSolid does not provide a thick enough base color coat to accept all the flakes required for a full color flake broadcast/coverage. We are assuming that is what you are referring to as the "gator-like finish". In addition, it would require triple the amount of clear coat to cover all those flakes which makes RockSolid cost prohibitive compared to other (better) options.

@user-zp5vb9zg9f 11 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for that critical I sight..really appreciate it

@michaelh7394 7 ай бұрын

I have a new 24x25 garage, equaling 600 sq ft. I purchased a 2 1/2 car plus 1 car kit. According to the packaging it should cover 600-750 sq ft. The 3 bags did not cover 1/2 of the garage. I needed to purchase 2 more 2 1/2 kits in order to finish the floor. If I had known that the coverage was so low, I would have primed the floor first in order to seal the concrete. Primer is a lot cheaper then this product!

@allgaragefloors 7 ай бұрын

Hi Michael. Yes, this is a common complaint that we address in our review of RockSolid on our website. However, there are no proper primers available that you can use. They are not compatible. The first coat of RockSolid IS the primer in some cases. We explain why not to make a primer mistake with these coatings here: allgaragefloors.com/epoxyshield-rocksolid-concrete-primers/

@alsimmons1722 29 күн бұрын

My floor never dried and still sticky. What should i do

@allgaragefloors 29 күн бұрын

Epoxy doesn't dry like paint. It chemically cures to a hardened state. When it does not harden, it's typically due to improper/insufficient mixing or from being applied when the temperatures were too cold. When this happens, the only thing you can do at this point is scrape it off the floor, clean off the remaining residue with a solvent such as denatured alcohol, and then apply a new coat.

@michaeldupont6644 4 ай бұрын

Ever any problem with bubbles in the finish with Rock solid ??

@allgaragefloors 4 ай бұрын

It's not a common problem since RockSolid is a thin coating. However, it can happen if it's applied too thick or if the concrete experiences outgassing.

@leogarcia7998 3 ай бұрын

how do I prep the concrete?

@allgaragefloors 3 ай бұрын

Hi Leo. The concrete needs to be cleaned and degreased if necessary. After that, it needs to be etched with the supplied etching solution.

@BudgetDIY 11 ай бұрын

What is the best option for garage, epoxy vs rocksolid INDUSTRIAL-GRADE POLYCURAMINE ? Thank you in advance

@allgaragefloors 11 ай бұрын

Hi Vimal. The RockSolid Industrial-Grade Polycuramine is no different than the polycuramine in the garage kits. They just call it Industrial because the box contains four burst pouches for up to 1000 square feet of coverage. So nothing changes from what we state in the video. It's just another example of gimmicky marketing by Rust-Oleum.

@BudgetDIY 11 ай бұрын

Thank you again for your time 😊

@JohnDoe-ud2cc Жыл бұрын

Can you put rock solid clear over epoxy shield?

@allgaragefloors Жыл бұрын

Hi John. RockSolid and EpoxySheild are not chemically compatible to bond together during the recoat window. If you want to apply RockSolid Clear Coat over EpoxyShield, you need to wait a minimum of 24 hours and then degloss the surface by roughing it up with 150-grit sandpaper. Vac/sweep the surface then wipe it down with denatured alcohol or equivalent. You can then apply the RockSolid and it will achieve a proper bond.

@scdmachine 3 ай бұрын

Is it possible to mix these 2 products together?

@allgaragefloors 3 ай бұрын

No, you cannot mix these two products together. They are dissimilar. One is an epoxy and the other is a polycuramine.

@TJOLLYRANCHER 11 ай бұрын

where r the links for better products??

@allgaragefloors 11 ай бұрын

Hi Thomas. We have links in the description above under the video. Click on "Show More" to see all the links.

@johnfeather5405 Жыл бұрын

What about doing a primer before hand?

@allgaragefloors Жыл бұрын

Hi John. Don't confuse concrete bonding primers with primers for coatings. Concrete bonding primers are a type of acrylic paint. They are not compatible with coatings and do not adhere as well. They are designed to be used with paint. Primers for coatings are typically 2-part epoxy formulations. They are compatible with most coatings and cost almost as much. That is why you don't see concrete "coating" primers at home improvement centers. They are typically used for high-quality commercial DIY coatings. The first coat of RockSolid would essentially be the "primer coat" if it becomes too thin and the finish is not good.

@johnfeather5405 Жыл бұрын

@@allgaragefloors Thanks for the advice. So, are you saying it’s that the primer that says no etching or grinding is not good? Should I just use the liquid etching?My garage is a one car that’s 220 square feet, I could use the 2.5 garage and be fine? Thanks

@allgaragefloors Жыл бұрын

@@johnfeather5405 That's correct. Coating primers are typically a 2-part epoxy that requires etching or grinding of the concrete surface. They cost over $100 per gallon. If you don't mind spending the additional $$$, the 2.5-car RockSolid kit will work fine. The first coat will be the primer coat and may or may not look too thin based on the 220 square feet. However, the second coat will easily cover that and provide a very glossy and rich color. We recommend purchasing RockSolid at Amazon. amzn.to/3Wl3m2w A typical 2.5-car kit is up to $80 less than home improvement centers.

@johnfeather5405 Жыл бұрын

@@allgaragefloors Ty

@charliepiazza7533 9 ай бұрын

What happens if I have a brand new concrete pad? Moving into a brand new home!

@allgaragefloors 9 ай бұрын

Hi Charlie. I'm not sure what you mean about what happens. You still need to properly prep the concrete if that is what you are asking. This article here explains why: allgaragefloors.com/etch-concrete-before-epoxy/

@soam24 10 ай бұрын

That optional rock solid clear coat is expensive for a 1 car kit!

@allgaragefloors 10 ай бұрын

Yes, it is. And it's half as thick as the color coat if spread over 400 square feet. That is why we recommend the DIY polyurea kits in the "Show More" description for the video. The overall coating system is almost 3X as thick for a bit more money. Plus, it's U.V. stable and wears better.

@matthewmui1417 11 ай бұрын

My garage was previously painted by previous owner with latex paint. Can I apply Rustoleum recoat primer and then apply Rocksolid without grinding the floor?

@allgaragefloors 10 ай бұрын

Hi Mathew. If the paint covers the entire floor and is adhered well, then you can use the Rust-Oleum Recoat Primer. However, we don't recommend it. How well your coating performs in terms of hot tire pickup and peeling is determined by what it is adhered to. In your case, the primary material adhered to the bare concrete is latex paint. It does not come close to the tenacious bond that RockSolid has to bare concrete. As a result, you may still experience peeling or hot tire pickup.

@adambell6328 10 ай бұрын

I purchased the rock solid kit garage epoxy .Can I use the epoxy shield clear over it or do I need to use the rock solid clear for it?

@allgaragefloors 10 ай бұрын

Rust-Oleum states that you need to use the RockSolid Clear Coat. EpoxyShield Clear Coat is not compatible with RockSolid to form a chemical bond during the recoat window. In addition, the number one rule of clear coats is that they should perform just as well if not better than the color coat. The EpoxyShield clear is not as good as the RockSolid color coat regarding abrasion resistance (wear) and chemical/stain resistance.

@adambell6328 10 ай бұрын

@@allgaragefloors thank you so much for the help!

@waynehill9013 11 ай бұрын

what to do my shop floor high traffic what would you use armour sheild or something a little better quality than these

@allgaragefloors 11 ай бұрын

We recommend a higher quality coating than the residential quality Rust-Oleum products. Our favorite is the commercial-quality single-part polyurea coatings. You can read about them here: allgaragefloors.com/polyurea-best-garage-floor-coating-kits/ A high solids epoxy system such as ArmourShield is much better than Rust-Oleum as well. It just requires more time to apply.

@alexkwai Жыл бұрын

what is the best paint for outdoor basketball concrete floor?

@allgaragefloors Жыл бұрын

ArmorPoxy has a great outdoor coating that can be used for basketball courts. You can find it here: armorpoxy.com/exterior-products/surface-bond/

@christianhasler5138 7 ай бұрын

Did anyone sand between coats?

@allgaragefloors 7 ай бұрын

Sanding is only required if you apply additional coats outside of the recoat windows. It's 3 days for EpoxyShield and 7 days for RockSolid.

@callum235 11 ай бұрын

Sheet of paper is 0.05-0.1mm thick? Quite a difference to 3mm

@jamesford1852 10 ай бұрын

A mil is 1/1000 of an inch

@kraizy420 9 ай бұрын

He said 3 MIL's not millimeters

@nagendrasabar4174 10 ай бұрын

Product link send me

@allgaragefloors 10 ай бұрын

Hi. The links are in the description for the video. Click on "Show More" to see them.

@dscottgillett 3 ай бұрын

Acid etching is not the proper method of prepping a concrete floor for a coating. The only industry acceptable standard is to grind the floor to a CSP2 with a floor grinder.

@allgaragefloors 3 ай бұрын

Hello Scott. That is definitely the case for higher solids, commercial quality coatings. However, it's not the case for RockSolid or EpoxyShield. RockSolid used to specifically state in the TDS for many years not to grind the concrete. That was because RockSolid wets out and penetrates concrete extremely well. When the surface is prepped via grinding, RockSolid coverage rates are cut in half to provide the required 3 mil DFT. Those that followed the recommended coverage rates after grinding end up with coating far too thin and have to apply another coat. This is a common complaint for RockSolid when prepping with the supplied citric acid etch. The same holds true for EpoxyShield in terms of grinding. This ends up doubling the cost of the both products since it requires two coats to get the minimal recommended DFT. RockSolid has few issues will bonding properly after using the supplied etch. Hot tires is generally not an issue with RockSolid where as EpoxyShield has many problems with that (even when grinding) which I won't delve into here.

@Scott-mz4ql 2 ай бұрын

Excellent explanation of the products. It’s a shame that you’re putting your name to such cheap products that are bound to fail. There’s a reason contractors charge more for a true industrial epoxy floor. You get what you pay for.

@allgaragefloors 2 ай бұрын

Hi Scott and thanks for the input. We aren't endorsing these coatings. We agree they are inferior and feel they are responsible for giving quality garage coatings a bad name. Our goal is to educate people about the pros and cons and give a more realistic viewpoint. It's why I mention there are much better coatings available and include links to them in the Description area below the video.