Rod & Staff Arithmetic 1 Review & Flip Through | Rod & Staff vs MLFLE

Rod & Staff Arithmetic 1 Review & Flip Through | Rod & Staff vs MLFLE | Math for Struggling Learners

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This is a Rod & Staff Math Arithmetic 1 Review and Flip Through as well as how it compares to Math Lessons for a Living Education Levels 1 & 2. Rod & Staff Arithmetic is a great curriculum for struggling learners and also is great for parents who really want a strong early math foundation and number sense awareness for their kids.
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@dollydog5 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the review. I watched & went to my local Homeschool Store. I'd been almost decided on using it prior to watching your video, but liked how you walked through it. I found all components of the R&S Math 1 program used and in perfect condition today. I'll be starting it with my 6 year old son in September. I've got a ton of math manipulatives that I plan to incorporate. I recently switched to R&S 5 for my twins. They feel they've learned more in the first few weeks than they ever had in prior programs we've used. I love and trust the R&S brand. I've used it for English and Science in previous years. It's so good a building a solid foundation.

@simplejoyfilledliving 2 жыл бұрын

I hope you love it!

@carolinahomestead 3 жыл бұрын

This is beyond helpful. Thank you SO MUCH!

@simplejoyfilledliving 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! ❤️

@nothingshdhd 4 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for this review. My child has Autism and I was heavily looking into this curriculum. After your review, we are going to give it a try.

@pencilsandprairies Жыл бұрын

THANK YOU for this post! My daughter has autism and I have been trying to find a good review on this. I deeply appreciate the work you put into this!

@simplejoyfilledliving Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! 💕

@lauraweir85 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, you included such helpful details!

@simplejoyfilledliving 3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@robinriggs4194 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for doing this!!

@simplejoyfilledliving 3 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome!

@averykempf9164 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the flip through. I am considering R&S. It was really nice to see inside the book.

@simplejoyfilledliving 2 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome!

@tinamariejohnson7520 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this! Such a thorough review and walk through! My kids have only used Singapore Math the Primary US Edition. While we love Singapore, I’m finding them having to do a lot counting of math facts. Therefore, we’re actually starting Rod & Staff, for Summer Bridge and reinforcement. Hopefully it’s a smooth transition for us! Especially, since we’re also using Rod & Staff for ENG, SCI., SOC. STUDIES, and READING!

@simplejoyfilledliving 3 жыл бұрын

I hope you love it. There’s so much practice on math facts that my special needs daughter has had no problem memorizing math facts.

@LivingWithEve 3 жыл бұрын

I used Rod and Staff for PK and reading. It’s very thorough.

@simplejoyfilledliving 3 жыл бұрын

I think that’s what Sophie needs. She’s not able to skip any steps.

@audreymcnair350 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this! I'm using Rod and Staff level 6 for my current 6th grader. I love how thorough it is. I'm planning to switch my younger ones over to it next school year.

@simplejoyfilledliving 3 жыл бұрын

I’m interested to see the higher levels of Rod & Staff.

@audreymcnair350 3 жыл бұрын

@@simplejoyfilledliving I have really been happy with it. We tried to use Math Lessons for a Living Education level 6, but he just wasn't getting enough practice. I think R&S gives a great amount of practice and I feel like it explains things really well.

@simplejoyfilledliving 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! It sounds like R&S might be a good long term fit for Sophie. We’ve really struggled. This gives me so much hope!

@HomechoolbythePond 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for doing this! I've been comparing so many early elementary math curricula and have no idea what do use for 1st grade lol.

@simplejoyfilledliving 3 жыл бұрын

I know you like Abeka. Rod & Staff is similar but moves slower and is more incremental. Abeka also has a lot practice like R&S.

@kristyplatt6233 3 жыл бұрын

Thought I would rewatch an old video today. Sending y’all lots of love. I spent the day finishing up lesson plans on Homeschool Planet. We start 9th grade on Monday.

@simplejoyfilledliving 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Kristy. You are such a blessing. I’m going to try to film tomorrow. It has been a struggle lately to really get anything accomplished. I’m hoping filming the first video will make things seem more normal.

@kristyplatt6233 3 жыл бұрын

@@simplejoyfilledliving hugs!

@faithfullyinfertile 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this!!! So helpful. I love MLFLE, but both of my school age kids have struggled to learn math facts. We did Christian Light Education math for both of them when they were in 1st grade and while that had a great math fact plan, it didn't really work for my kids. Rod & Staff seems to have an AMAZING plan for learning those basic math facts with all the review. Some kids, like you said, just need that repetition to learn them. I am certainly going to keep this in mind when my boys start Math Lessons. I could see using MLFLE with them & then pausing that as you have done with Sophie and doing Rod & Staff. Do you think you will go back to MLFLE with Sophie? I just really love the ease of implementing the MLFLE lessons! It is so simple & the workload doesn't overwhelm my non-math loving child. Thanks again for doing this flip through. I really appreciate it. I am so glad you have found something that is working for Sophie!

@simplejoyfilledliving 3 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome! Right now I am planning to stick with Rod & Staff. It has a more structured approach that Sophie seems to need.

@erinmandrell8682 3 жыл бұрын

Hi I’m so glad I found your channel!! I’m currently using Math U See Alpha for my 2nd grader who has some learning disabilities. He’s about 1/2 way through the book. My 1st grade daughter is also using this same curriculum separately, and is about to pass him. He just isn’t grasping their methods and concepts, and isn’t progressing at all. Do you think Rod&Staff would be a better alternative? If so, do you think it would be better to start him at the beginning, or find a point mid-way through the book?

@simplejoyfilledliving 3 жыл бұрын

It's hard to know. I will say that Sophie doesn't do well with a bunch of manipulatives. They just didn't make sense to her. I know that MUS also uses a lot of manipulatives. Do you think that could be an issue for him? That it just isn't clicking? Rod and Staff worked for my daughter because it is really just old fashioned math with a lot of memorization and after a few weeks of that, it started to click for her. I still use crayons for manipulatives if I need to, but for the most part, less is more for her. R&S 1st grade was the same as MLFLE 1st and at least half of second grade, but I am not as familiar with MUS as far as what is covered in each level. Another point, which I am not sure I covered in the video, is that Memoria Press uses Rod & Staff in their special needs curriculum. (It is called Simply Classical). That's where I got the idea that it might work for my daughter with special needs.

@jerilyn-ourhomeschooltable 3 жыл бұрын

I had to come back and ask: could you use the speed drills alone and not need the teacher manual? We use MathUSee but thought I could maybe use the speed drills as a fun supplement.

@simplejoyfilledliving 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, you could definitely use the speed drills by themselves as a supplement. But they do go in order of what had been taught the day before in the program.

@sandraruiz4737 2 жыл бұрын

At what lesson does RS introduce place value? We use mathusee and have been on primer for a long time. My daughter has a hard time identifying numbers past 10 and it moves so fast.

@simplejoyfilledliving 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t remember. We did Rod & Staff 1 last year and this year we are on level 2. I think Milestone Books has a flip through on their website that you could look through.

@MsBrownEyedGirl96 2 жыл бұрын

I'm curious about the workbooks. Can you photocopy for use within the family? I know you can with MLFLE which really cuts the cost down.

@simplejoyfilledliving 2 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure. You’d have to call them or read the copyright page.

@EricaLucasLoves 3 жыл бұрын

The Rod and Staff teacher book is huge. Do you use it with each lesson?

@simplejoyfilledliving 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, half the book is lesson instructions, and the other half is an answer key to the supplemental work.

@faithlovekindnesspeace1942 3 жыл бұрын

At first, I was wondering how we're supposed to know what to say or have the child do. I forgot about the separate teacher's guide. This is very interesting to me because it reminds me of my grade school textbooks in the 80s which were mostly black and white. I'm not sure if the lack of color would bother my daughter but I will definitely keep this in mind for options/back-ups. Thank you for sharing! A little off-topic but do I remember correctly that you've tried Horizons and/or Abeka in the past? I'm interested in those, too. We're currently doing Abeka Social Studies K5 and Discovering God's World. I'm liking both of those so I'm considering trying their Math and LA for 1st grade. 🙂

@simplejoyfilledliving 3 жыл бұрын

I loved Abeka math and language arts. We used their kindergarten programs with Sophie but they moved too fast for her, and were probably more like a K5/1st level. I’ve never used Horizons except handwriting.

@faithlovekindnesspeace1942 3 жыл бұрын

@@simplejoyfilledliving I'm seriously struggling with a bit of FOMO now that we're getting closer to being official. Notice of Intent is due in November when she turns 6. 😐 My original plan was Master Books and TGATB for spines and Evan-Moor/Horizons Workbooks for supplements. I don't know what it is but we're two months in and we're both getting bored. So we're on a break from our "rehearsal year" and back to strictly playschooling. We're enjoying the Abeka Science and Social Studies, though. 😄 I might end up doing what you did last year with switching between a gentler curriculum and a rigorous one to vary the pace. I like the idea of gentle/CM style but I'm naturally drawn to structured/traditional style, so I'll try to do both.

@jacobjohannes7123 2 жыл бұрын

I really like how much practice is involved. Could the workbooks stand alone for extra practice? Or is the teacher’s manual absolutely necessary

@simplejoyfilledliving 2 жыл бұрын

At that level the teacher book isn’t critical, but you would miss the how to reach the concept part.

@MsBrownEyedGirl96 2 жыл бұрын

Do you think it would work to do MLFLE and have the rod and staff teachers manual for a supplement? Since it has the teaching and workbook answers in the manual could use problems on a whiteboard for extra practice. I just really like the fun side of MLFLE but thought having rod and staff on hand would help beef up topics we need more practice with (and also another way of learning as opposed to getting the MLFLE extra work)

@simplejoyfilledliving 2 жыл бұрын

That would probably work!

@MsBrownEyedGirl96 2 жыл бұрын

And if she ends up liking on way better could just switch

@simplyraisingarrows7369 8 ай бұрын

Im worried my special needs son will struggle because i will struggle teaching it to him as well since math is my weak subject too. He is 13 and needing 3rd grade level so i was going to try to do rod and staff level 3 with my third grader and my special need son together .

@dominique573n9 3 жыл бұрын

Do you know if abeka is advanced? My daughter is about the same level as math as Sophie. If you were to do Abeka with Sophie what level would you choose? I’m having such a hard time between 1 and 2. I also got rod and staff level 2 for her… math has been such a struggle for us I’m trying to find what works for her. I’m hoping a combination of rod and staff and Abeka will help 😕 also she can’t do addition or subtraction without manipulatives she is 7 will be 8 at the end of November and has special needs.. do you think this is a big problem? Or is this okay..?

@simplejoyfilledliving 3 жыл бұрын

Abeka definitely moves quickly. I would do 1st or kindergarten with Sophie. About the manipulatives-it just depends on if you want your child to memorize facts. I decided that was important for Sophie because use of manipulatives is hard for her. Rod and Staff is very good for kids who haven’t yet memorized facts because it moves slowly. Sophie has memorized hers just by doing the work in the Rod & Staff math book. We haven’t needed flash cards or anything extra.

@dominique573n9 3 жыл бұрын

@@simplejoyfilledliving thank you so much for the response.. I had got another math program for my daughter touch math grade 2, but she is finishing up level 1 now and gets very frustrated when it gets a little bit hard and challenges her and level 2 looks a lot more advanced so I am concerned. I purchased rod and staff workbooks 1 and 2 for grade 2. I didn’t purchase the teachers manual.. do you think it’s needed? I will look into Abeka Kindergarten as well to see if it’s more her level.

@simplejoyfilledliving 3 жыл бұрын

@@dominique573n9 Rod & Staff’s teacher manuals are helpful. There’s other lessons in there than just the worksheets. But you can probably get by without them.

@laurenrasmussen7997 Жыл бұрын

What would you start with in kindergarten for an average student? I'm torn between rod and staff and saxon. I'm looking at level one of both. We started a little of rod and staff but my daughter thinks it's boring. I'm unsure of Saxon though because it doesn't spend much time on the new concept and that didn't work for another child of ours. I also love the fact mastery with rod and staff but i wonder if it's Overkill and at what expense. I want a solid foundation but don't want to miss certain topics that would be in Saxon but not in rod and staff. I'm really losing sleep over this. On the other hand, my daughter would choose horizons all day long but i need a teachers guide that will help me teach a concept bc i don't know how to explain things well.

@simplejoyfilledliving Жыл бұрын

For a child without learning struggles, I would use Math Lessons for a Living Education, Horizons, or TG&TB. I’m not a big fan of early Saxon levels before 4th grade vey they are painfully slow. Rod snd staff is also extremely repetitive for a child without special needs. However you could skip some of the repetition after you see the child has mastered the concept.

@rmeester9366 16 күн бұрын

We are using Memoria Press and they use Rod & Staff math (which says a lot as to how good the program is). Rod & Staff uses half of the Arithmetic 1 book for kindergarten and the other half goes into first grade, if that helps.

@alanberry4919 5 ай бұрын

Just so it is clear, the Rod and Staff level 1 is meant for K and 1st grade levels.

@ericahwilson9270 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for doing this! How would you say Rod & Staff compares to MLFLE as far as teaching place value? I hate the way MLFLE teaches it.

@simplejoyfilledliving 3 жыл бұрын

I prefer Rod and Staff. But they put off place value for a while in favor of basic math facts.

@ericahwilson9270 3 жыл бұрын

@@simplejoyfilledliving thanks so much! I think we'll give it a try! I have a couple of special needs kiddos that I think this will be a good fit for.

@simplejoyfilledliving 3 жыл бұрын

I hope it will be! We are finally getting some traction in math with Sophie now, and with R&S she’s moving at a pace of 1 lesson per day.

@megl6148 3 жыл бұрын

Math lessons for a living education now has extra practice books!

@simplejoyfilledliving 3 жыл бұрын

That’s good to know!

@hangingwithcharlottesweb 2 жыл бұрын

Do you recommend this curriculum for a kindergarten who has ADHD ??

@simplejoyfilledliving 2 жыл бұрын

They do have a kindergarten level that would probably be better.

@hangingwithcharlottesweb 2 жыл бұрын

@@simplejoyfilledliving ok, Thanks! I’m looking for something that’s going to help with retaining the information. My son struggles with this.

@morethantheravens1593 3 жыл бұрын

Is the teachers guide necessary?

@simplejoyfilledliving 3 жыл бұрын

You could do it with the workbooks only but you would miss the lesson. Sometimes I find the lessons helpful.

@morethantheravens1593 3 жыл бұрын

@@simplejoyfilledliving thank you so much for answering my question. 🙂 your review has been very helpful. We’re on about lesson 9 in MLFLE2 and my daughter(8 yrs old going into 3rd, some special needs) does not know her math facts and has become so frustrated with the double digit to single digit addition that was just kind of thrown in all of a sudden. Seriously considering this switch and also just starting my first grader out in it as well.

@XGAMER-jk1rt 3 жыл бұрын

So, what math curriculum have you used that was good for a student who has strong math skills?

@simplejoyfilledliving 3 жыл бұрын

My oldest is a very strong math student, and we used Saxon and Shormann with her. This is what I would recommend:Saxon through 8/7 in 7th grade (pre-algebra), then move to Shormann with Algebra 1 in 8th, Algebra 2 in 9th (geometry credit is earned after completing algebra 2), then pre-calculus in 10th, calculus in 11th, either calculus 2 in 12th or dual enrollment in statistics or college algebra. This is the path my daughter is on and she’s currently in 11th grade and taking calculus. We plan to dual enroll next year for math.

@XGAMER-jk1rt 3 жыл бұрын

@@simplejoyfilledliving thank you we tried a few currently doing math u see but he is not liking that at all.

@simplejoyfilledliving 3 жыл бұрын

I hope you find the right fit.

@PenniesAndSalt 3 жыл бұрын

I have not been happy with MLFLE at all. This looks really similar to Christian Light Education Math which I have always LOVED! I was getting ready to order CLE for Sophia and Marcus but now I think I might actually try this because it is so similar.

@simplejoyfilledliving 3 жыл бұрын

Sophie did fine in MLFLE 1 but 2 moved really fast. We have never used CLE.