RODE NTSF1, SENNHEISER MKH 8040, DPA 4560. Which microphone sounds the best?
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Жыл бұрынPlane Spotting at Osaka Itami Airport: A Must-Visit Location for Aviation Enthusiasts and Plane Spotters
Osaka Itami Airport is a popular destination for aviation enthusiasts and plane spotters looking to get up close to planes landing and taking off. In this video, we explore this exciting location and share our experiences of capturing stunning sound recordings.
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@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
During the editing process with the Rode Plugin, I felt like something is off. The sound sounded ripped and had some weird phasing. What do you think? It was a good test, but I'll only use this Rode VR microphone with the Zoom F6 ( ambisonic decoder already included and purchase the Sennheiser VR to use with the MixPre6ii. This microphone is calibrated to use with the Sound Devices and the plugin.
@hyyyyl7903 Жыл бұрын
I would try the Harpex-plugin for the ambisonic. Imo it sounds better.
@middleE Жыл бұрын
To me it sounds like the Rode just couldn't handle the sound pressure on the first attempt
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
@@hyyyyl7903 Ah yes I heard about that but since we don't use VR too much we won't pay for that plugin.
@PLANEMANIA747 Жыл бұрын
Overhead shot of aircraft...amazing 😍😍
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching! This was really amazing:)
@christiannikodemus Жыл бұрын
I love the sound devices with the VR set up, i also love the shot of the caterpillar crossing the street 😆 great video!!
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
That's my favorite shot too! :)
@soundhobo Жыл бұрын
Nice tests, I do love recording aircraft 👍
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
Same here!
@TERUMI7 Жыл бұрын
Grrreat!!! Sound ! Awsome
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@Wristworm Жыл бұрын
For me. The Zoom f3 and DPA 4560s just sound amazing.
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
It's a great combo!
@murugananthamtamilarasan2095 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for a good information sir
@V1aviation Ай бұрын
Very interesting to see you approaching (pun intended, yes) aviation sounds! One of the biggest struggles when filming airplanes is getting a well balanced sound. When the airplane is far away, the sounds are very dull, but when the airplane gets closer and passes, the microphone peaks. I'm still looking for the best way to capture everything well balanced, but attaching my NTG-4+ to an F3 has helped me out 'OK-ish' so far. If you do have any tips, i'm VERY keen in hearing them!
@gyur6 Жыл бұрын
Was a pleasure to follow you guys on this trip to the airfield! You always make recordings in such good vibes, and with a boost of creative editing 🤓
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! :) Working already on the next video!
@andyjames Жыл бұрын
Amazing video...new subscriber to your channel! I'll be in Osaka this November & can't wait to planespot here. Thanks for sharing your amazing content ✈📷🎙
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! We hope you have a great time in Osaka.
@DanielaBunu Жыл бұрын
What a nice location! 🤩
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
This airport is awesome indeed! :)
@dag221 Жыл бұрын
Great shots and the audio is nice too !
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@ohareplanespotting Жыл бұрын
Great overhead catches!
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! Amazing place :)
@soundhole5498 Жыл бұрын
nice to have 32 bit float in this situation :)
@gregorv4951 Жыл бұрын
great and thanks for all comparing mics - sennheiser and dpa 4560
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@manonthebike Жыл бұрын
Привет! Мне очень нравятся твои видео! Спасибо за информацию! С удовольствием смотрю все ролики и изучаю по ним искусство аудиозаписи. Также отдельный респект за твою дружелюбную подачу материала!
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching and we're glad you enjoy our videos!
@TheSound0fLegends Жыл бұрын
This is what I do ❤
@overjok Жыл бұрын
DPA 4560 and Zoom F3 always impresses me, nice combo 😍
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@VOByRobbins Жыл бұрын
Agree, amazing sound with the Beanie on!!!
@overjok Жыл бұрын
@@VOByRobbins true
@keinpodcast4053 Жыл бұрын
Nice recordings. I also thought that the NT-SF1 clipped on the first recording. The DPAs sounded great, as always. Maybe you need to build a giant wind basket that fits over your head 😄Or maybe you could sew a 10cm wide strip of fake fur to the hat, which could look a bit more normal. Thank you again for letting us share your experiences. Viele Grüße - Til.
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
Thank you Til! We actually tried that out with the Cinela and also the Rycote wind protection but the issue is that the fabric rubs against the ear and the mic picks it up. We need some kind of separation.
@mediakobo Жыл бұрын
I went there on Saturday. As you mentioned, the photographers and other people there were very noisy. Non-stop talking. I set up my Ambeo VR mic and a pair of MKH 8020s and 8040s. The 8040s sounded great in an ORTF configuration pointing upwards, although the gust of wind after each jet flyby was too much for the Rycote Softies I had on them. Need to invest in better wind protection for them! I didn't experience any issues with the Ambeo VR mic going into the F6, so the ripping sound you experienced is probably due to the decoding software. The Amebo VR mic has about the same SPL rating as the Rode. Thanks for the great content!
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
Yeah they are chatter boxes :) Photos don't need sounds right :) Next time we put a light up :))) Thank you for letting me know about the F6. I thought about going again to try it out.
@Kriaster Жыл бұрын
Your videos has got me thinking of getting a Zoom F3. Any budget friendly stereo mics that you'd recommend? I've seen the $1000 budget video and as much as I would love to get the 8022, is there a cheaper alternative? Love your videos! It has made me more appreciative of ambient noises in videos and in person.
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
Hi! Oh yes there are a lot of alternatives but the problem with a two microphone setup is all the add ons add up to almost the same price at the end. Cables, stereo bars, wind protection etc. Look into Line Audio, they have some nice microphones and than start comparing the extra cost. You could get cheaper wind protection for that.
@Kriaster Жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds That make sense. Thank you very much! Hope to see more videos from this channel!
@relievingambience Жыл бұрын
uff ... the DPA's! ... crazy 🤯
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
Just the best :)
@relievingambience Жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds reasently I had an issue recording my first binaural sound ambience with the Roland CS-10EM. Kind of a metallic noice or hall while recording wave sounds at the beach. Still trying to figure out what that was. Have you ever had such an error? I can totaly understand if you don`t have the time to answer everyones problems but at least I can ask ☺ greetings Dean
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
@@relievingambience Hi! Did you record and monitor at the same time? If that’s the case, maybe the feedback created this issue. Don’t use the headphone in jack and try again. Was that the issue?
@relievingambience Жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds that was the case 😳, yes it exactly sounds like that…thank you very much!
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
@@relievingambience Glad I could help :)
@emodate Жыл бұрын
2:34 When I saw in town last winter I was wondering how that was and how it tasted! 9:30 I love how hard you're trying not to laugh! lol
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
Hi Jon! I liked both drinks but the "zero gravity" was the best :)
@emodate Жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds If it's there next time I'm there I'll have to try it out!😄
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
@@emodate I'm sure it will :)
@ignasivila1879 Жыл бұрын
Nice!!! How do you hold the Zoom F3 in the tripod? Thanks!
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
Hi! Oh there is a screw underneath the F3 and you can fix the quick release plate right there.
@ScarboroughTourist Жыл бұрын
I've just bought this DPA 4590/Zoom F3 combo myself and was wondering about the beanie ! It seems like a good idea for stealth recordings as well as it being a wind protector. Is there any particular 'beanie' requirements I should look for (materials etc) or will any generic beanie be good enough. How do they affect the sound quality in general? What other suggestions do you have as an alternative for the wind noise with this combo. I'm a spectacle/glasses wearer and I'm hoping this isn't going to cause issues; otherwise I may have to consider contact lens.
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
The best way to figure this out is through experimenting and recording to see what kind of beanie suits you the best. The biggest challenge with having a beanie or any covering too close to the microphone is the potential scratching noise when moving around. Regarding wind protection, have you considered the Soundman binaural wind protection? It's quite large and not very stealthy, but it might be worth considering. It's received mixed reviews, so it's not for everyone, but could be an option to explore. Perhaps an even better solution might be a 3D printed enclosure that fits comfortably around your ears, or a soft material that can create enough space between the microphone and wind protection. The key is ensuring that there's sufficient space to prevent wind noise but not too much that it muffles the sound. But you're right that it's a challenge because no one has really created a perfect solution for this. For truly professional binaural recordings, many people opt for the Neumann head, but that's quite a hefty investment.
@edwardnixon1782 Жыл бұрын
A small detail: your beanie is actually a "toque" (Canadian -- a close-fitting knitted hat, often with a tassel or pom-pom on the crown -- pronounced /tōk/ - long 'o') which at this time of year in most regions of Canada becomes a requirement for heat retention in the head. Does good service as a wind shield though. A question: What would you recommend as a more cost sensitive alternative to the binaural, ear mounted mics for capturing 2 channels? Fun one; thanks!
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
Thank you Edward! Hmm, you can check out the Roland EC 10 EM, or some Soundman microphones, There is another company in the US that makes some but I just forgot the name. I will look and reply again. Another interesting idea is a dummy head DIY with Clippy's. We have a video about this.
@iamleek 3 ай бұрын
Good Day! Thank you for sharing. The videos are amazing!. I have a burning question to ask for your advise. Using zoom H6 essential, Fett head, with NT SF 1, possible? For a handy 360 VR setup possible?
@FreeToUseSounds 3 ай бұрын
Hi! Ohh well, you could do that and get 4 mono tracks but this is all without the ambisonic conversion. And because you can't link these channels, you would have to manually adjust each channel later in post.
@iamleek 3 ай бұрын
@FreeToUseSounds I have a friend into range shooting. Yes hand guns in Malaysia. I have check in with him to record the sound of the gun firing and hitting the target. Let me know if you like to record it.
@FreeToUseSounds 3 ай бұрын
@@iamleek Ohh that sounds fun but we won't have time. We're out exploring KL every single day.
@iamleek 3 ай бұрын
@FreeToUseSounds sure, when you are ready to let me know. Clement my KL friend, buddy. His new hobby. Hahahaha. KL is more exciting and bigger place to explore.
@oh2hqe Жыл бұрын
That I tough when have loud sounds in quite short time, how set levels. Did level get to over or did condenser mics just too sensitive for this. I’ll like hear your toughs.
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
Hello, Teme! Good point but setting levels is a breeze with an SD MixPre 6ii, and with such 32-bit recorder, you can only clip audio when the SPL of the microphone was reached. It's possible that this was the case in the early recordings, although I'm not sure if it was higher than 129dB. But maybe :)
@oh2hqe Жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds Had planned record pass trhu gargotrain recording. Human ear is adaptive for environment even short (increase) moment, but recording devices cannot be fooled (as human could). Need make some test for this. Going to use condenser and dyn mics. I’ll let your know.
@lilianweiss2028 Жыл бұрын
Hm that distortion is quite weird esp. as the dpa capsules have a similar max SPL rating (134) as the NT-SF1 (129). Also, the 4560 has less LF roll-off as it's omni, too... maybe the beany shielded it just enough, or the dpas have more "headroom" over spec. Does the rode distort in the original a-formst data? This way you could find out if it's (one or more) capsules oberlosding or if it's some weird decode problem. Or it might even be a problem in "mixdown" aka ambidonics decoding to stereo if the codec does some run time difference tricks there (as e.g. UHJ might do). btw there is a vid on yt that explains why rockets sound ripped (it's in the actual air pressure patterns), but I don't think this applies to jet planes, esp. near idle. Pity! Ambisonics could be awesome for planes... 9:20 love that expression of awaiting the plane with your headset instead of earplugs. Keep up! I have a feeling the distortion can be fixed somewhere without buying abother mix.
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
Hi Lilian, it didn't distorte in the original recordings and the interesting fact is that I have a hole in the 360 space. It could be the fact not using a decoder? The recording itself is also a four channel mix and not stereo. If you have four speakers you could hear it. I try this again with the Zoom F6.
@lilianweiss2028 Жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds That sounds really strange (literally, haha..). A hole in B-Format could be a dead capsule? Maybe it's just not really noticeable for quieter sounds. But now I am just guessing. Let's see if the F6 solves the problem!
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
@@lilianweiss2028 Hi Lilian! Yes I did a rain recording last night with the F6 and the Rode and had no issues.
@satransitvideos 11 ай бұрын
Can you do a review on the Sony ECM-680S?
@FreeToUseSounds 11 ай бұрын
Hi! Oh no we won't purchase this microphone.
@satransitvideos 11 ай бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds Why not what's wrong with it?
@FreeToUseSounds 11 ай бұрын
@@satransitvideos There's nothing wrong with the microphone per se. We just don't see a justification to spend nearly $1000 on a microphone that we currently don't have a specific use for.
@satransitvideos 11 ай бұрын
@FreeToUseSounds 😕 Hmm ok I just find Rode, Audio Technica a bit too flat for me Sony seems to have that natural bass.
@cryptotrader2779 Жыл бұрын
Hey Marcel. Definitely some issues with the first recording when the plane was directly above you at the loudest point. It did very much sound ripped apart and heavily distorted. Seems odd and there must be a fix. Surely plenty of people use the Rode with a MixPre6. I just had a look online and couldn't find much, only someone saying that you MUST record in A format (raw) with the Rode NT-SF1, because recording in B format is designed for Sennheiser Ambeo only. OK, I have to say I don't even know what A Format means, but that's what others online say. Or could it be caused by the channel linking and the sudden huge increase in noise from the plane as the MixPre is trying to quickly match gain on all four linked capsules. I have no idea really, I'm no expert. Just trying to guess I suppose. Anyway, I wish you and Libby a wonderful week. Happy recording !
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your input Simon! I think I just use the Rode with the F6 and if we purchase the Sennheiser, we just got that plugin too.
@thethirdrailchannel Жыл бұрын
Theft is always possible no matter where you are but are there some countries that you have visited where the concern is less, and some countries where you have more concern?
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
This is a very good question and we're currently in Japan and visited Korea before. Zero concern.
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