lol Look at cute little Skip comparing Jennings to Moss, just so he can make Brady look better

LMFAO Greg Jennings a top 5 receiver. LMAO

What do Manning and Favre have in common? They both know how to run up stats, then choke when the biggest games of the year when they are on the line…aka playoff games! Enough said.

Couldn't agree more!!!!

Warren Moon

1998? The 16-1 Vikings blowing the NFCCG to Atlanta absolutely comes to mind first and foremost over the boring Broncos pasting of the Falcons in the SB. No doubt about that. 2010? Yes, the great run by Marshawn Lynch that killed off the Saints was VERY memorable. Thanks for proving my point for me.

Brady also became the starter at 23. Rodgers was like 25. Brady also had a great defense right away, Rodgers didn't

The bottom line is that this is a comparision between the 2007 brady and 2011 rodgers. Rodgers had a higher passer rating as well as more rushing yards and rushing attempts than Brady, and two less fumbles to boot. The numbers don't argue, and not to mention while Brady is an amazing passer, he simply doesn't pass as well as Rodgers does. He thinks out every pass well, and fast, and its his quick thinking combined with his accuracy and scrambling ability that makes him the superior QB.

Rodgers will end his career with just 1 SB.

All Time Passer Ratings 1. Aaron Rodgers 105.8 2. Peyton Manning 97.9 3. Philip Rivers 96.8 3. Steve Young 96.8 5. Tony Romo 96.3 6. Tom Brady 95.8

And the 2007 patriots had one of the toughest schedules in the NFL that year against some of the toughest defenses and teams in the NFL on the road (steelers, colts, ravens, cowboys, giants, eagles) 07 afc north and 07 nfc east were very tough divisions.

can we get this old first take back!

branch...my mistake I don't know how I put him on this list

It does! A superbowl appearance doesn't dictate a more successful season. they fell short of the same mark that the dismal 2007 Rams were trying to hit that year. However, to do it with the extreme amount of momentum they had with a team served to them on a silver platter is crazy. I mean they've even been there before and, at the time, Brady and that team were far better conditioned for that environment the Giants ever were.

The 18-0 Pats were favored by 12 points in Super Bowl 42 vs the 10-6 Giants, who had the 7th-ranked defense in the NFL and were also #1 in sacks. They also ranked in the top 10 in pass defense and run defense. The Pats lost by 3 points. The 15-1 Packers were favored by 9 points in the 2011 divisional playoff game vs the 9-7 Giants, who had the 27th-ranked defense, 29th-ranked pass D and 19th-ranked run D. The Packers lost by 17 points. I rest my case.

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Farve never had a 49 TD season...

The Pats ran up the score on opponents, which some would say inflated Brady's numbers whereas GB didn't do, which is why Rodger's never had any 5 TD games. Welker was the phin's #1 WR the season before he got traded to the Pats, so when he finally had a great QB, he showed his greatness. Also, who really knew anything about Nelson, he did not produce spectacular numbers before this season. All I am say is don't take any credit away from Welker because he was unproven when Nelson was as well.

When you think of 1998, what comes to mind? the Vikes or John Elway Demolishing the Falcons for his 2nd consecutive title? in 2010, do you think of the Pack or the fact that the reigning superbowl champs went one and done against a 7-9 Seattle Seahawks team? Yeah i rest MY case.

that was not supposed to take away what dan marino did.. the point i was trying to make was that rodgers is extremely efficient with the football in his hands, be it as a runner or a passer. also other qb's such as brady, both mannings, brees, roethlisberger that play in the same era with the same rules have failed to accomplish that ;)

I don't care who was better Rodgers in 2011 or Brady in 2007. Personally I believe Rodgers was better but I am just glad that I saw both of those historical seasons by a qb

How did he play the race card in this conversation?

And Brady doesn't think out every pass well and fast? There's a reason that Revis and Lewis both incredible defenders say that Brady from the line of scrimmage just picks defenses apart. He may not be able to "scramble", but his pocket presence is possibly the best of all time. He makes it look so flawless making just slight movements and slight pump fakes to create space in the pocket.

when you consider the era and team Favre did that in it not only blows rodgers' out of the water.it is quite possibly the greatest stretch of qb play in nfl history.I read that article and it should have just shut everyone up. just keep in mind that rodgers needs good talent around him for him to achieve his success,favre never had such luxuries and had to make way with whatever he could, much like brady did in his sb runs.favre made his teammates better, rodgers wasnt even a captain til last yr

As of this moment Aaron Rodgers is the best qb in the league. He leads in touchdowns and passer rating, and is in the top 5 for yards, which in reality isn't as important as td's and passer rating. But the stats can't tell you everything. They can't tell you how great Rodgers' ability to avoid blitzes with his mobility is. He is the best at throwing outside the pocket. That touchdown last week where Rodgers had to scramble to his left to avoid a rush and throw a pinpoint accurate pass across h

Favre is part of our illustrious history that I grew up watching, and I don't like how Packer fans "hate" him because he played for the Vikings, the move was right for both sides. But I have to disagree with Rodgers being a system QB, it's not like those receivers are all-pro's, they're good, but Rodgers makes them a lot better. If anything, this was proven in 2012 when Rodgers had only one WR start all 16 games this year (and he was sacked 50 times) yet he still had an MVP caliber season.

One thing that is over looked in the dan marino arguement, is the speed of which the game is played at now corners where not as fast as they are now receivers where not as fast as they are now, hell there's line backers and DE that are fast as hell. And rodgers is making these throws in a game that IS a high level of speed.

Rodgers most td's and best rating of the 3 ... Brady most yards and led the toprated offense of the 3... Manning led the team with the best record of the 3 and his comeback story makes it more amazing... thats actually why peterson will win the mvp award. its so tight among the top 3 quarterbacks while peterson just blows away all other runningbacks and carries the team in the same kinda way that these 3 QB's do, which is just unfathomable for a RB to do.

Favre's Best 16-Game stretch of his career 353 completions in 517 attempts for 4,243 yards (68.3%), 49 touchdowns, seven interceptions, 32 sacks and a passer rating of 119.1 Aaron Rodgers Best 16 Game stretch of his career 356 completions in 503 attempts (70.8%) for 4,642 yards, 42 touchdowns, seven interceptions, 37 sacks and a passer rating of 121.5.

agreed. Brees is very underrated. hes actually going to break the NFL record of consecutive games with TD pass...he has 43....just needs 5 more to break Johnny U's 47...idk why they dont mention brees

and to close it off, he took the packers to an OT away from the super bowl in 07, had the jets looking like a super bowl favorite the very next year until he tore his biceps tendon on his throwing arm despite being on a completely new team with a completely different offense and persennel.the next year after moving to another new team had the vikings within FG range against the saints in the nfc ch game until a 12 men in the huddle was called. if they made it to the SB that yr he wud have ring#2

i think this years playoffs will say alot. over the last 3 seasons brady and rodgers each have an mvp and been to a superbowl only difference is rodgers won one, both have led historically great offenses... this years playoffs will say alot. if manning wins the mvp award and superbowl this year then who the hell knows man, all 3 are great

My apologies, I forgot to add Alex Smith to that list as well, SB rings are nice but they don't always gauge how good a quarterback is. Rodgers has a better receiving core than all those listed above, yet they are actually doing a better job meshing their teams. This is where the Packers are struggling, the mesh and the communication is not there as it was in 2009 and 2010, probably as a result of Rodgers head being too big, but no one wants to say anything because he's the "MVP"

Brees is a good passer but nothing else

favre had the same number of rings at aaron rodgers's age in fact he had appeared in 2 consec ones at that point and had 3 straight mvps so to just assume because rodgers has one now he will automatically have multiple is kinda getting ahead of himself. elway told favre after the super bowl not to worry he'll have plenty more rings by the time he's his age but things dont always work out that way

Rodgers over Brady no question

Woah I have the utmost Respect for Wes what I'm Saying is when your best WR is 5'7 no matter how good his route running an catching abilities are if you give those Same abilities to a 6'4 WR it's much easier an your numbers Should be way better So for Tom to throw for way more yards then Rodgers Shows he's clearly better an Stafford isn't top 3 cuz it's just like when Culapepper had Moss an Carter now where is he...exactly my point

After Moss and Welker, Brady had Gaffney and Stallworth to throw to, not to mention a solid RB in Maroney in 07 so I don't think he was doing more with less. Jennings wasn't even Green Bay's best WR, statistically speaking, Nelson was but after those two all he really had to throw to was Finely. My point is both Brady and Rodgers had plenty of options to throw to on their team.

Because he's played longer. Lol, I respect your opinion though!

I think snice Brady is so consistent we just don't see him as good anymore. He's not the best arm in the league but he reads coverages better than anyone else, doesn't turn the ball over, and plays very solid. He doesn't have the highest completion percentage but he avoids turnovers by not taking a super risky play and throwing an interception and usually by the time the pressure get's through he's already thrown the ball. I'd take Brady over any quarterback in this league at the moment.

So yes I would say Rodgers had better season because with a mediocre O-line (Clifton injured), defense that gave away big plays Rodgers managed to lead his team to 15-1 record, they swept their divison, had a passer rating of 122,5 and threw 45 td's and only 6 picks...And it was a pleasure to watch him making big play after big play..play action fake and td pass to nelson...just awesome!!!

Wow, brady went to the super bowl 5 times and won 3 of them, if you think that rodgers is gonna go that far, you got another thing coming...

can't do it on a regular basis

rodgers has pro bowl type recivers like gennings and driver and a hall of famer (brett farve) was teaching rodgers for several years brady stated in his 2nd years and had an average QB teaching him and his recivers oh teah and david givens had 800 yards in his last year in NE and the next year he only had 8 receptions and 104 yards in 10 games and farris had 118 yards in his 6 year career yup there not off the street

funny how people call the packers oline bad when the packers lose and as soon as aaron rodgers lights up a great texans defense and a solid rams defense people talk about all the talent around him. i wonder what rodgers' numbers would be like if his receivers were catching every ball thrown their way and the line could protect him...

yes he did threw for 5000 about he also needed over 660 pass attempts to get all those yards and TDs same with Brees and Brady last year. its impressive but by the way QBs throw so many attempts now days things like that will be seen on a year to year basis. who will ever do what Rodgers did in 2011 on only 502 attempts with a weak ass running game and a last ranked Defense? we will honestly be lucky if we ever see a season like that again of amazing efficiency and consistency.

i respect you for not being a packers fan who just blindly shoots down brett favre to prop up aaron rodgers bc sadly the majority are, bc they just try to pull some revisionist history bc almost all of them were booing and cursing him in training camp in 08. to me it's not even a debate. both great qbs, but Favre in a tier of his own. i think rodgers benefits so much from his system, his wr's and the era he plays in. Favre was GB's joe montana, he ran the same west coast offense and was amazing

As it turns out, Brady's 2007 trumped Rodgers' 2011 by a nose. 16-0/18-0 then losing the SB isn't nearly as horrible as being the first ever team to go 15-1 and then go one-and-done in the playoffs. But damn, those Giants are just Giant-killers...

Rodgers didnt break the yardage record because he was sat down in so many 4th Quarters and sat out a game. Sean Payton kept Brees out there even when they were blowing out teams. Payton wanted him to get the record so he left him out there to throw as many times as he wants and the shocking thing about is they still had one of the best running game games last year. Rodgers did what he did on less pass attempts then Andy Dalton and Cam Newton Brees did it on having the most pass attempts.

Eli enough said

cool man!

Right now Rodgers is clearly better, but he's still got a ways to go to match Brady career wise.

also right after that super bowl when favre barely lost to the broncos in his second straight super bowl appearance, elway consoled him by saying you're gonna be in many more super bowls just like people are assuming rodgers will be in now just because he is young. he very well might one another super bowl or two but let's not just take that as though it's going to happen. favre probably would have had a few more SBs with the packers had they not broken up the team and fired holmgren

remind me how many rings they all have

# of rings is arbitrary, and I forgot to mention Roethlisberger, who should rightfully be top 3

Rodgers also needs to throw 376 more TD passes to tie Favre's record of 508. Even if Rodgers averages 33 TDs per season, it'll take him until the 2023 season to pass Favre. Rodgers won't be averaging 33 TDs per season in his late 30s, I assure you.

Rodgers has a bit of catching up to do to get to brady and peytons place but over the last 3 years rodgetrs has been the best of the three. slightly edging brady and blowing peyton out the water (due to peyton being out for a year is the only reason why, as peyton showed this year)

that's so true, Rodgers plays like a violin!!stats don't show everything.He is the best qb in the league right now but Pats fans can't stand that Brady isn't anymore so they try to put some nonsense Matt Flynn theories to diminish Rodgers' succes. He doesn't have to win sb anymore although I think he will grab at least one more because Ted Thompson knows how to build a team and McCarthy is in my opinion the most underrated playcaller in the NFL.

that also means if rodgers can go outside the pocket he can get injured easier too

Amazing how so many people always hate on the Pats defense ignoring the fact that defense shut down the broncos in the divisional game that same Pats defense bailed Brady out from his poor performance in AFC championship game against the Ravens. that same Defense held the Giants offense to only 19 points in the super bowl. and people want to blame the defense for everything without taking into account the Pats offense only scored 7 points in the entire second half of Super bowl 46.

I have my reasons why I think Rodgers is the best and you have your reasons why you think he isn't. My opinions is that at this time Rodgers is number 1 qb, because of his leadership, his stats, passing ability, his play from outside of the pocket, his blitz readings, running ability etc. I enjoy watching him play.

@AciddReign Cool... Running is nice for sure, but running is the last thing a QB wants to do. Meanwhile Brady going to a 5th SB, Rodgers is sitting at home.

Come on man, I'm a Packer fan, I know all of this. And I'm usually the one defending Brett Favre from all the haters who says he's overrated. I know he's thrown the most TDs of all time, I know that his gunslinger play that lost us a lot of games also won us a lot of games. I know he appeared in two straight Super Bowls, and I know he's without a doubt one of the greatest to ever play the game. I just think Rodgers will be better at the end of his own career.

brady had 4 more TD's and 200 more yards but rodgers didnt play week 17 there both great qb's but i think brady is better

growing up but he never quit and thats why brady is where he's at today

In order to defending Tom, Skip about to put Greg over Randy

Three words, bud: Any Given Sunday. Welcome to the NFL.

Rodgers didn't needed kicker to win sb, or tuck rule to go to one

@wolfgirl3440 that's the definition of prisoner in the moment - favre was the same age as aaron rodgers when he won his Super Bowl and unlike aaron actually managed to get to his second consecutive super bowl instead of a one and done in the playoffs where he got embarrassed despite the refs trying to rig the game for them like they have been doing for the packers for 2 straight years now but i digress.

ANY time a one-loss team that has been hyped as nearly-unbeatable gets rolled in the playoffs (ESPECIALLY a one-and-done debacle like the Packers pulled), it's gonna be remembered FOR EV ER. No amount of wishful thinking is gonna sweep that shit under the rug.

Last time I checked, the Packers also had film on the Giants (from the 2011 regular season) when they played them in the playoffs last January, so bringing that up is pointless. I'm saying if I had to choose between losing a super bowl and going one-and-done in the playoffs, I'd take the SB loss every time. Not sure how you're having trouble getting that.

Brady's receivers in '07 and Rodgers' receiver in '11 Moss>Jennings Welker>Nelson Branch

The 2007 Giants ranked 7th in total defense. Look it up, genius.

And that's how Flynn would probably play if he was Green Bay's starting qb..get my point now?

Did he just say Brady's arm is stronger than Rodgers' lol. Aaron's got arguably the biggest arm in the league. Just look at the velocity on the ball, even on the 50yrd passes

Rodgers had great talent at receiver. Jennings Driver ect. Brady had people off the street

i accept your opinion on brady... i prefer rodgers but manning or peterson is suppose to get cause they came back from an injury...bs

I like Favre and Rodgers but Rodgers is better because he has an NFL qb rating and Favre always threw many ints, but i like both but rodgers is better.

should adrian peterson dude came back from a serious knee injury and has a glance at eric dickerson's record and possibility he might reach 2000 yards. thats MVP. if adrian peterson breaks eric dickersons record he should get MVP. Pats have always been good. Peyton went to a team who won a play off with tebow. Aaron Rodgers probably best QB in the league right now. but with adrain peterson is doing he should win it.

At least Brady made it to the Super Bowl after his historic season. Rodgers went one-and-done after his. 'Nuff said. If anyone in their right mind had to choose between the two, they'd take the 16-0/18-1 super bowl-loss season over a 15-1 followed by a playoff one-and-done season any day of the week and twice on sunday.

i love brady hess my fav n i dislike rogers , but no one can say rogers aint good bc he is ,some people say its the system that rogers is in , but didnt people say that about brady untill 2006 when he played with basicly garbe n brought them to a win a way from playing in the super bowl,cant we agree that well be able to tell our children that , i watched them play in super bowls pro bowls.THERE BOTH GREAT ..... but brady has 3 rings WHAT UP

@thtkidnick7 Brady weapons lead the nfl with yards after the catch plus he has a great O-line so he has all day in the pocket but other than that brady is one of the best ever but i dont think his skills is on rodgers level;Im not saying that rodgers is completely than brady because i think manning and brady are the smartest QB's mostly manning he call his owns plays,change wideouts routes,read defense better than anyone but i think rodgers can surpass both;

I think its silly for anyone to say any of the current players trump a lot of the old players, we are watching a severely watered down version of what the NFL was. I would love to see Rodgers, or anyone else for that matter play the way he does with a truly unleashed defense. Its sad

So not only were they comparable but guess what? The only reason why Favre's stretch didn't last longer was because Brooks was lost for the season, and Freeman got hurt as well. TD to Int Ratio I give you that, but don't act like Favre didn't play just as good during the prime of his life w/ less talent during his hay day.

Numbers don't suggest nothing when the one QBs efficiency is higher then another who had 48 total TDs and only 6 turnovers in 2011? Rodgers who had 52 total TDs and 12 turnovers 07? Brady. Brees had 46 Total TDs and 15 turnovers. The only way you can prove other QBs had better seasons is based on padding his stats with more pass attempts. none of those QBs with the exection of Peyton amazing season has come close to doing what Rodgers has done on such a low amount of attempts.

I'm defending reason. No way the Pats losing a game like that don't face more shame. No one will remember the Pack losing to the Superbowl Winning Giants in 2011. EVERYONE will remember the upset of SuperBowl 42

again same answer. We are talking about single season performance

you don't tend to stick to reality because u ignore the pass attempts its like in Basketball when you shoot more attempts you're going to end up with more points same with Football the more attempts you give a great QB the more yards and TDs he is going to have. the most important stat for a QB that throws it over 500 times a season is passer rating and his TD to Turnover ratio and Rodgers owns both records. you ignore the amount of Turnovers and attempts both Brees and Brady had.

It's official and case fucking closed....TOM BRADY'S THE GOAT!!!

from Farve. Not to mention the team had a good history of winnning. Brady was shoved into week 2 with a ton of pressure on him, with 1st overall pick injured, with a team with no winning history! Brady is the Best QB on the Planet atm

"A superbowl appearance doesn't dictate a more successful season." Really? So the 2008 Lions (0-16) had the same amount of success as the 2008 Cardinals (lost super bowl) just due to the fact that neither team won the SB that year? Holy SHIT, you are not playing with a full deck...

"look at the the inconsistency of NFC teams up to that point in terms of title contention and superbowl champions from 2001." What the fuck does that have to do with you saying the 2007 NFC was weaker than the 2011 NFC? Wow...

Oh, and did you also forget that the Giants had the 16th ranked special teams and 14th ranked offense? Is it all about offense the pats offense? Oh, and where the hell do you get 7th ranked? they were somewhere around 11th in the pass (new england was first in pass offense) and 8th in the run. they were VERY unimpressive in turnovers and gave up A lot of points that year. Oh and may i remind you, that the Pats went right through the team that beat the number ranked D in the playoffs, so yeah..

trust me rodgers has a long ways to go before he's even in the league of favre let alone before he's evenn able to become the best qb in the nfl right now. he's not better than brady brees peyton and i give him a tie with eli and that's being nice considering he isnt nearly as clutch as eli.

Whos better? who cares they both are in the top ten qbs since the merger

No i think he said that brady arm is stronger than kenny stabler not Rodgers.

i won't argue best in the NFL yet, but he certainly isn't 2nd best by any clear means. his yards per attempt the last three years are 8.2, 8.26 and 9.25 in '09, '10, and '11 respectively. brady has only been above 8 twice in his career (8.3 and 8.57 in '07 and '11). same with brees (8.34 in '09, and 8.54 in '11). the only thing you can question is longevity, which he can't do anything to prove, of course, except keep playing. he's off to the best statistical 4 year start of any QB in history.

Weak ass defense??in '11 I agree but in '07?Wilfork, McGinnest, Samuel,Bruschi...really?weak?Yeah I do think Eli is elite, I saw what he did to my beloved Packers and to Pats in the SB...Maybe he doesn't perform well in regular season (well not untill 4th quarter) but in the post season he's a beast...still he is way behind the best qb in the league Mr. Rodgers

Tom Brady is the best QB ever. You will never see that type of greatness in this free agency era for a VERY long time. Brady has lost and won more Super Bowls than Rodgers has been to. Brady has double the TD's, double the yards, more reg season wins, the most playoff wins all time, all with LESS offensive and recently defensive talent. Brady took a team with NO defense to the SB and nearly won! Rodgers can't do that! I've also seen Brady punt, kick, catch, and JUKE the shit out of Urlacher!

The Pats tougher schedule. Green Bay played the AFC West, Chiefs, Broncos, Raiders, Chargers and NFC South Saints, Falcons, Panthers, Bucs; Extra Teams Giants and Rams. The Patriots played the NFC East Giants, Eagles, Cowboys, Redskins and AFC North Steelers(in prime) Ravens(Rex's D), Browns and Bengals other Teams Colts and Chargers. Pats own division was easier but Chicago's defence wasn't as good as the Ravens or Steelers. Vikings were terrible & Lions had bad pass D. They Got Chiefed lol