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Broadway Limited Paragon 4 Southern Pacific GS-4 review and vs MTH

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Matt's Performance Locomotives

Matt's Performance Locomotives

5 ай бұрын

MTH wins on motor control and sound but the gap is certainly narrowed vs previous BLI sound packages. BLI wins on everything else especially detail and pull power

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@mattprice6317
@mattprice6317 5 ай бұрын
Bud I haven’t watched the vid yet but glad too see you back. Instant thumbs up!
@modelrailroadingthesouthwest
@modelrailroadingthesouthwest 5 ай бұрын
Great video dude! I like the BNSF one you have. I got one too and I like it a lot. I agree with you; these locomotives are delivered by these manufacturers with nothing run them with. I would love for BLI to re-release the California Zephyr cars.
@rogermccraney8119
@rogermccraney8119 3 ай бұрын
It would be nice if the class lights were operational to wear you can adjust the brightness of them and switch between colors like scaletrains engines are.
@bmann3049
@bmann3049 5 ай бұрын
Lord of the Trains 2: Return of the King
@nathanburke1224
@nathanburke1224 3 ай бұрын
Im waiting for the dcc ready version myself, sound is definitely more accurate than previous versions but not close enough for me. The chuffing doesnt sound right, i want more whistle selections, i also want to add a few custom sounds as well.
@thomasavensjr.2790
@thomasavensjr.2790 3 ай бұрын
Very impressive and attractive model of the SP GS4 type locomotive, if I decide to purchase any of these models in the future I will most likely purchase a model in the postwar black/ silver paint scheme as that is my personal preference.
@evanhizon8112
@evanhizon8112 5 ай бұрын
Dang, I only got the MTH Daylight back in mid-2020 because I thought it would be the only "true" scale of the GS-4. And it would be years before we had a scale model of the GS-4 Also at the time, BLI had no plans to make a GS-4 in diecast and the only one you could on eBay was the older brass Paragon2 that was almost in the $1k range. After I saw the BLI GS-4, it just looks so much better than my MTH. Yeah the MTH smoking whistle, but the BLI GS-4 looks more meaner, tougher, and more accurate to the prototype. I'm really considering selling my MTH one and getting the BLI one now.
@RodimusPrime
@RodimusPrime 5 ай бұрын
Thats exactly what I did after running this one for a little bit
@OriginalBongoliath
@OriginalBongoliath 5 ай бұрын
The Broadway Limited one is the superior one all around and this is coming from someone who used to own the MTH version. You already stated all the reasons why it is better but one you forgot to mention is customer support. If your MTH one goes down, from my own experience and others who dealt with the final batch of MTH locos before Mike Wolf retired that have complete dogshit quality control, you are out of luck since they no longer support their HO products. BLI will take care of you if something happens with their stuff. Also, if you switch to whistle 2, it is an accurate SP In-Service whistle from the 1950's and earlier. Since I model that era and have no interest in anything modern, I will be getting the non-4449 version Daylight and a War Baby.
@YeOldeGeezer
@YeOldeGeezer 5 ай бұрын
I switched to whistle 2 on my own model and it sounds much better than the default version when compared to online videos of the real life gs4.
@jimreynolds7118
@jimreynolds7118 3 ай бұрын
Whats the Kato part number for your two largest outer tracks? I just got this Daylight loco a d it binds in the curves an pops a driver off sometimes. Have you had any issues like that with yours? Thanks for all your great videos Matt!
@hovermotion
@hovermotion 5 ай бұрын
Superb locos and unboxing..👍🏻
@Chasetwalkerproductions
@Chasetwalkerproductions 5 ай бұрын
Not to be that guy, but I guess I am going to be for a moment. The whistle is in fact accurate. That’s the whistle 4449 wears currently. The other whistle was the whistle she wore previously which is an sp 6 chime. The markers in the front are also in fact lit, just pretty poorly. Great review though!
@RodimusPrime
@RodimusPrime 5 ай бұрын
All good things, at this point my biggest disappointment is the surging motor control it doesnt seem to be balanced or something
@Chasetwalkerproductions
@Chasetwalkerproductions 5 ай бұрын
@@RodimusPrime I remember I picked up an sp&s 700 model and both had this issue. I think it’s partially a decoder problem otherwise they just weren’t meshed together properly. Mine is waiting at home for me, hopefully it doesn’t have this issue, but seemingly most do.
@Chasetwalkerproductions
@Chasetwalkerproductions 5 ай бұрын
@@RodimusPrime yeah after some run time with mine, it does have a slight jerk running, but definitely not bad. Might just differ over every engine
@YeOldeGeezer
@YeOldeGeezer 5 ай бұрын
@@Chasetwalkerproductionssame with my gs4 model. If you take a look at the couplers of my three car freight consist. You can notice the slackening and tightening. Gonna get the esu adapter board for this model when they release it.
@YeOldeGeezer
@YeOldeGeezer 5 ай бұрын
@@ChasetwalkerproductionsI think it might be the back emf that’s preprogrammed into these decoders
@officialpennsyjoe
@officialpennsyjoe 5 ай бұрын
Wooo! Finally!
@YeOldeGeezer
@YeOldeGeezer 5 ай бұрын
I got this exact model however my model has the 3rd set of drivers (2nd from rear) pop off on curves and then pop back on, on straight track. Has no issues running like that but annoys me to no end. I also have to take off the shell. Because I added way too much much smoke fluid. Not to mention when it runs, it kinda stutters like a gearing issue. Not sure if the factory didn’t mesh them correctly.
@RodimusPrime
@RodimusPrime 5 ай бұрын
I too have the gear issue after 3 hours of run time I was hoping it would go away not sure if its bad gearing or balance or motor control on the decoder
@YeOldeGeezer
@YeOldeGeezer 5 ай бұрын
@@RodimusPrime I’m hoping BLI might address this
@DietPizza1
@DietPizza1 5 ай бұрын
My 3rd driver was popping off when I was using Kato “22” ( 21 5/8s), switched to 24 and 34 switches and runs just fine now. I don’t think they like even 22
@johnkelley4874
@johnkelley4874 Ай бұрын
You need rolling thunder module and subwoofer it will blow away MTH and not have that annoying sound of MTH smoke pump
@parts323
@parts323 5 ай бұрын
MTH in my opinion is garbage for HO gauge. I am about 200 locomotive deep in HO gauge. Mostly brass and Broadway Limited. I have the 1981-2000 version and the front makers are lit on my model. I think Broadway did a fantastic job on this release.
@YeOldeGeezer
@YeOldeGeezer 5 ай бұрын
My MTH HO 4-12-2 runs like silk. That’s only after getting into the drivetrain and oiling the driveshafts as well as putting labelle grease on the gears.
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