Roger Penrose | Logic, Conciousness and Quantum

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From studying with Dirac to working with Hawking, mathematical physicist, mathematician and philosopher of science Roger Penrose talks to us about logic, conciousness and what's not quite right about quantum physics.
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Roger Penrose: Roger Penrose is an English mathematical physicist, mathematician and philosopher of science. He is Emeritus Rouse Ball Professor of Mathematics in the University of Oxford and Emeritus Fellow of Wadham College, Oxford. He is author of The Road to Reality: A Complete Guide to the Laws of the Universe, a comprehensive guide to the Laws of Physics, as well his own theory on the Penrose Interpretation.
For more from Roger Penrose watch:
Can Aeons Explain The Big Bang? | Full Interview www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTttU...
Big Bang Creation Myths | Full Debate | Roger Penrose, Sean Carroll, Laura Mersini-Hougton www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HES3...
Q&A | Big Bang and Creation Myths | Roger Penrose, Sean Carroll, Laura Mersini-Haughton www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdIV5...
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@golagaz 4 жыл бұрын

Interviewer is so enthusiastic. Well done. Penrose is a living legend.

@GreyWind 4 жыл бұрын

golagaz more like pretentiously annoying

@cristianproust 3 жыл бұрын

@@GreyWind I felt Penrose hated him at the beginning, and tolerated him till the end. I don't think he realized he was not talking to an equal, and certainly didn't take advantage of his presence.

@GreyWind 3 жыл бұрын

@@cristianproust hahaha

@akumar7366 2 жыл бұрын

We are witnessing greatness, Sir Roger Penrose.

@georgeangles6542 5 ай бұрын

All roads lead back to Roger Penrose. He's that dude 💪💪💪

@sahilbhatnagar4757 4 жыл бұрын

I think he might be one of smartest person alive.

@TheInstituteOfArtAndIdeas 4 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed Roger's talk, Sahil. You might like these videos too: The Next Universe - iai.tv/video/the-next-universe2 Truth and Beauty - iai.tv/video/truth-and-beauty Big Bang Myths = iai.tv/video/big-bang-creation-myths

@HASHHASSIN 4 жыл бұрын

@@TheInstituteOfArtAndIdeas All links says "Video unavailable"

@MICKEYISLOWD 4 жыл бұрын

Why Britain has so many genius people? For a small place their contribution is enormous.

@HASHHASSIN 4 жыл бұрын

Their Queen believe and support science.. trumpers cut budgets of science

@MagicRon97 4 жыл бұрын

For me the most interesting part of this talk is the idea that intuition is a type of transcendental logic that allows you to understand the truths that govern rules. Or put another way, you could say it allows for the understanding of why a given set of rules are true. If humans are capable of that kind of thinking, then I would say it has probably been used in some form by the greatest minds to learn about the fundamental truths of reality.

@vjnt1star 4 жыл бұрын

I am not being funny but what does that mean for a rule or set of rules to be true ?

@sadeivprasanna780 4 жыл бұрын

Institutions are not always a fact truth or right perception.

@cristianproust 3 жыл бұрын

Intuition does not tell you why something is true. Mathematical truth is self evident, it is simply like that. Why implies a reason, when you couldn't come up with any. Some research has been done to see if it is innate, and least certain intuition about the physics of the world is pre-programmed, as grammar (Chomsky). A small random feature that allows you to find out about the Big Bang. "Random" is a funny word

@lorenyoungren9129 4 жыл бұрын

Sir Roger Penrose is absolutely right, conscious must be.a quntam process, as it involves nonlocality as it experiences multillocal perception simultaneously..

@akumar7366 2 жыл бұрын

Bravo to the presenter, has wide ranging depth of knowledge, the sense of humour helps , made the while event brilliant.

@alexbarnett7375 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for doing this I really appreciate it Penrose. Always lovely to listen to his exquisite and beautifully explained genius on stage. He seems to get better and better with age all the best! Always gives me a smile and giggle too haha. He’s not unpopular he’s misunderstood you numpty

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@lukasahmed1271 2 жыл бұрын

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@lukasahmed1271 2 жыл бұрын

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@HarryNicNicholas 4 жыл бұрын

i for get which book, but i remember seeing one of escher's illustrations when i was quite young, it's appealing to think penrose found inspiration for maths and science as i did, i just wish i had his capability. i didn't realise ryan reynolds was so interested in science and philosophy.

@soutram12345 4 жыл бұрын

Understanding is why rules work!

@euginrobinson Жыл бұрын

The channel has a low volume, could you please do something about it, otherwise what fabulous treats the videos are!

@KuyVonBraun 4 жыл бұрын

I strongly recommend Roger’s book Cycles of Time

@spaztron5000 3 жыл бұрын

The reviews I'm reading don't lend themselves towards being a good fit for the layman. Given that this video is geared towards layman, recommending one of Penrose's more technically dense books in the comment section may be a misstep.

@KpxUrz5745 2 жыл бұрын

I would love to hear Penrose, Einstein, and Newton hash out some topics for 8 or 10 hours.

@suvrat 3 жыл бұрын

Legend! 🙏🏼

@monkerud2108 4 жыл бұрын

If you can have any scale piece, you can tile the plane with no repetitions with any shape, its kind of trivial. Obviously not the same problem, but its kind of related

@tetraederzufrequenz 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for doing this publication. I wondering with Penrose's work. I fall in logic and in love with the beauty physic thought. Math rules the logic.

@mrmustard1633 Жыл бұрын

fantastic interviewer

@mysteryneophyte 3 жыл бұрын

Good ol Mr. Dr. Professor Sir Roger Penrose.... If it where not for This man i would have never learned to play pinochle or Bridge for that matter.

@shingdaz 4 жыл бұрын

What is the Argument?

@pleaseforgivemyinsanity2801 4 жыл бұрын

It is super quiet?

@mayankn1 4 жыл бұрын

Consciousness was there even before this universe existed. It will be there when this universe ends. This universe and each particle is a manifestation of that consciousness, including humans. We as humans and other species are simply aware of this universe at a mental level through sensory organs and our mind to interpret that awareness. We only have to learn to shut down our external senses and focus all attention within ourselves to access and experience that consciousness. That's when we become one with the whole cosmos and every other being, because all of us are one and the same.

@sadeivprasanna780 4 жыл бұрын

consciousness is a product of conscience matters hence we cannot say consciousness is existing before this universe

@mayankn1 4 жыл бұрын

@@sadeivprasanna780 What you are talking about is mental awareness, which along with this universe is a manifestation of consciousness or the absolute. Our mental awareness arises out of that consciousness and not the other way round. Consciousness does not perish when we die, neither is it destroyed along with the universe. It will simply merge back in the absolute unmanifest consciousness, i.e., within itself.

@sadeivprasanna780 4 жыл бұрын

@@mayankn1 just to believe something religious scriptures against our logical experience is not good so you please think. people can live years without consciousness because consciousness is a product of conscience matter if that matters energy is not sufficient that can activate consciousness in human life then person can live but person cannot become "I am so and so"

@mayankn1 4 жыл бұрын

@@sadeivprasanna780 Logical experience is not the right argument. You wont be able to defend quantum mechanics, or for that matter general relativity with that logic. That's your assumption that consciousness is a product of matter, at present you (anyone through their everyday perception) don't even know what exactly is consciousness or how to define it. Physicists are slowly concluding its not possible to make significant progress without encompassing consciousness in the equation. Read this - www.physics-astronomy.org/2019/07/quantum-theory-proves-that.html?m=1 and www.express.co.uk/news/science/1179412/the-universe-what-is-consciousness-part-of-bigger-universe-meaning-human

@almosthuman1398 4 жыл бұрын

I'm not clear about what you are supposing. At first it sounded like a sort of spiritual claim, then switched to a sort of panpsychism. You ended with more spiritualism. Since we have no way to observe anything outside of our universe, I am not clear on the utility of this hypothesis. I'm not a big fan of panpsychism either because it redefines consciousness and supposes it as some fundamental property of all matter. This, too, has no utility that I can see. I do see utility in blurring the lines of consciousness, awareness, and intelligence, etc. when discussing human minds, animal minds, or artificial intelligence. I do have issues with including rocks and planets and galaxies in the mix. I'll draw the lines even more sharply. A smart thermostat may be said to have intelligence and perhaps awareness, but it does not have consciousness (in my world view - I offer no proof).

@bigfletch8 4 жыл бұрын

Roger is an aspiring biocentrist. One missing link is that his assertion that the universe was here before consciousness is an example of the so called two realities, where the universe involves time (beginning and ending), where consiousness is timeless.

@shingdaz 4 жыл бұрын

True.

@Lineage2ErtheiaPvP 4 жыл бұрын

put audio volume higher ffs, can almost not heer him

@killua9369 3 жыл бұрын

Well he just won a Nobel Prize

@paulmitchell5349 3 жыл бұрын

Some people want certainty as a religion, even when they know the answers will be inaccurate.

@shingdaz 4 жыл бұрын

The Angels and Demons represent the surface of a black hole where information is stored? Then information should be stored infinitely at the atomic level too? Where there is Infinitude there is multiplicity (parallel universe) No Beginning or end?

@frankdimeglio8216 4 жыл бұрын

Ask Penrose about Frank DiMeglio.

@HASHHASSIN 4 жыл бұрын

I asked Google.. and says you are "funny" Troll :)

@The.Golden.Door. 4 жыл бұрын

Omnidimensional Aether

@davidwilkie9551 4 жыл бұрын

Actual intelligent Consciousness, AC, is an alternating current of timing, Quantum Operator Computation..?

@enidsnarb 4 жыл бұрын

That sounds like the power supply !

@davidwilkie9551 4 жыл бұрын

@@enidsnarb so it is

@huipeng1749 4 жыл бұрын

where is my comment? I suggest a new direction for resolving those basic problem in quantum mechanics. you can disagree with me, but I hope you keep my opinion here.

@fredriksvard2603 3 жыл бұрын

@TheViperZed 4 жыл бұрын

Roger Penrose is an amazing mathematician, scientist and thinker, but that business about a chess engine not being able to win from a position produced by him is simply false and has nothing to do with AI. In his criticism of people telling him that they could program an engine that beats that position, because they are just infusing the computer with their own knowledge, he is actually also levying criticism to himself, as a chess engine is nothing else in the first place than an infusion of human knowledge about chess into a program, so in essence his position is just showing up what the people that made the chess didn't consider. I would enjoy seeing Roger Penrose create an equivalent position in Go with the same effect on AlphaGo.

@ZOGGYDOGGY Жыл бұрын

Hegel had very similar things to say about consciousness. Of course, Hegel didn't have access to the scientific discoveries that Penrose does. Just a thought from another old retired person.

@schmetterling4477 Жыл бұрын

Penrose doesn't have any scientific discoveries to base this bullshit on.

@ZOGGYDOGGY Жыл бұрын

@@schmetterling4477 and you won the Nobel Prize in physics when?

@schmetterling4477 Жыл бұрын

@@ZOGGYDOGGY Penrose didn't win the Nobel for this bullshit. He won the Nobel for things he has done when his mind was still intact. It hasn't been for a long time. That is as tragic as it is human. Human minds break. His broke way too soon.

@ZOGGYDOGGY Жыл бұрын

@@schmetterling4477 I hope that you're not an English teacher.

@schmetterling4477 Жыл бұрын

@@ZOGGYDOGGY I am not a teacher of anything. Neither are you a good student of anything. :-)

@devbullen7104 3 жыл бұрын

in universe main power is conciousness of unconciousness knowledge captived by conciousness of conciousness is very limited in universe because universe is dominated and fonctioned by the language of conciousness of unconciousness that conciousness of conciousness is yet doesnt know this language the solution is to invent the physics of metaphysics

@shingdaz 4 жыл бұрын

Scientific religion.

@tickityboo816 4 жыл бұрын

Interviewer talks too much.

@HASHHASSIN 4 жыл бұрын

Liked interviewer, he do show respect to Roger and well deserved compliments!

@fredriksvard2603 3 жыл бұрын

So do you

@frankdimeglio8216 4 жыл бұрын

Frank DiMeglio has surpassed Einstein and Newton.

@HarryNicNicholas 4 жыл бұрын

quite possibly, but as i have never heard of him, why are you shouting, how come he's so great?

@frankdimeglio8216 4 жыл бұрын

Frank DiMeglio is way smarter than Penrose.

@HarryNicNicholas 4 жыл бұрын

it would be nice if you could back that up, science and all that you know, evidence, citations maybe, otherwise, i'm way smarter than penrose, and you.

@euanlankybombamccombie6015 4 жыл бұрын

Frank likes Skavlan to much....and the NFL