PLUMBING vs HVAC | Which Job Pays Better?
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Ever wondered who earns more, plumbers or HVAC techs? Jon from Rescue Air and I, peel back the layers on what plumbers and HVAC technicians can realistically expect to earn in their careers. Whether you're contemplating a career move into the trades or you're already navigating the world of plumbing or HVAC and looking to maximize your earning potential, this discussion is packed with valuable insights. Join Jon Wren and I as we compare wages, discuss the factors influencing earnings in each field, and provide tips for those interested in boosting their income within these vital industries.
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@charlesking678 3 ай бұрын
Guys getting into the trades all ask what makes the most. The reality is plumbers, electrians, hvac techs all make about the same. Plumbers live in the same neighborhoods as hvac techs. So pick one and stick with it. Learn as much as you can about your trade, and you'll always have a job and rewarding career. Once you have the skills the money will follow.
@ismaelamaro7728 3 ай бұрын
It also depends on where you are in the country. There can be big differences in pay scale.
@Kjertinge 3 ай бұрын
No matter what you’ll be making some good coin compared to others that you live around. Especially if you’re a young person leaving highschool. Depending on the area too, here in Vancouver Canada, electricians make less than us plumbers do. I think HVAC might take the cake for most but that’s normally only if you’re a technician who knows everything. If I ever go back to school for another trade, it would be HVAC or Refrigeration specifically
@Kevin-ip8uf 3 ай бұрын
Yeah man, I've done the three (never got my jman license in HVAC though. I would if I could) and employers are offering roughly the same for all of them (obviously some specialized places will pay more. Right now I'm sticking with electrical and instrumentation because I'm doing maintenance at a gas plant - but they don't hire plumbers or HVAC techs directly, it gets contracted. So there's that) but depending if you go self employed and are willing to work ALL the time, the sky's the limit. But as an employee, you nailed it. It's all roughly the same pay - with changes regionally one way or the other
@Theaverageazn247 2 ай бұрын
it depends on region. HVAC make a fortunate in texas. When its a 110, people will sneak the hvac a tip for priority service
@aus_aircon_ref_mech6671 2 ай бұрын
Absoflogginglutely!
@mastertech.81hvacr8 3 ай бұрын
I’ve been in the HVAC/R field since 1996, I’m now 43. Also a proud member of the UA. As a manager/estimating manager. I out sell the HVAC guys. It’s so hard to fill the job. A lot of Fitters I know tell there kids to go HVAC/R. If your pulling you weight you can get well over rate, plus weeks of PTO. Well over 150k plus fringes.
@falloutpictures 3 ай бұрын
I have a couple of friends that got into HVAC. Once started in his mid 40's and wanted a change from a desk job and his regret was that he did not start sooner, the other one started in his mid 30's and 10 years later starting his own business.
@ismaelamaro7728 3 ай бұрын
Really inspiring stuff there. Awesome.
@aus_aircon_ref_mech6671 3 ай бұрын
I started HVAC in my early 30s after a decade sitting behind a desk. My only regret is that I didn’t start this when I was 16-18…
@AbigailSanchez-kc6eh 2 ай бұрын
I started hvac in my early 80s and wish I would have done it before I got dementia. What was I saying?
@user-ld1ci6db2t 3 ай бұрын
Spent 40 years as a UA member all with the same company doing commercial HVAC. Worked on every type of equipment out there. (chillers,boilers,air handlers, package equipment, pumps, cooling towers...) Transitioned into building automation the last 20 years in the trade. Working for a company that is willing to spend their money to train you and your willingness to spend the time to learn is the key to a long, successful and enjoyable career. Enjoying retirement now with a nice pension.
@ismaelamaro7728 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the wisdom sir. A happy retirement to you.
@KSWKREW 3 ай бұрын
I also work in BAS. It really is a niche part of the HVAC community that not many people know about or understand. The work can be less physically demanding compared to being a hvac service tech/installer, and it is very rewarding.
@meditations1014 3 ай бұрын
Thanks to u Roger I been a plumber apprentice for 6 months now.
@srharris88 3 ай бұрын
This model turns the hvac and plumber technicians into salesmen, no longer techs. Which makes sense business wise, but the homeowner gets screwed. The model pushes replace not repair.
@xslabcabxhearsex 3 ай бұрын
Been doing HVAC install/sheet metal mechanic and service for almost 40 years and all for the same company.i am like you,I’m here to give you the best install or service and not here to be a salesman. To me when you give techs money for up sells and advising to get a new system they don’t want to troubleshoot and fix.not fair to the homeowners.i never thought my trade would end up like a car salesman.
@ericme3317 22 күн бұрын
Exactly I would rather be honest and have the system repaired no one wants to be ripped off in these hard times
@Mojo32 11 күн бұрын
x3
@OctaneStreet 2 ай бұрын
This was really dope to listen to, thanks guys.
@RogerWakefield 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for listening
@CommercialGasEngineerVideos 3 ай бұрын
UK plumber in the house. Find commercial gas can be a good spot to be in. Yet it leads to HVAC. Interesting discussion
@CMark89 Ай бұрын
I'm 34 years old and been in trucking for 8 years.. For the past year I've been thinking of making a switch to possibly HVAC.. My friend runs his own plumbing company and would bring me on but I'm in PA and he's in NC. He started as an apprentice at 15/hr and he worked for companies for 7 years. His last payroll. Job was paying him 65/hr. He has now been running his own company for 4 years and has 6 guys working for him... I've been going back and forth between the two (or possibly an electrician)... But I've honestly been looking at getting into HVAC since I've started working on my furnace. I just want a change of scenery and I honestly want to be in a field that allows me to possibly start my own company with minimal overhead or at the bare minimum work side jobs - I can't do that in trucking! Not to mention, in my opinion - given the fact trucking is the backbone of America, we 1000% are not paid enough! I don't even know what an 8 hr day looks like anymore so putting in long hours is nothing to me.. I just have to find a decent company to take me on. In this economy, I'm also kind of nervous taking a pay cut. I would imagine thrift the apprentice you go up in pay though, right? Idk... Maybe somebody can help me out and give me a push. I've been wanting to do it but I just haven't pulled the trigger. Also, are these top figures y'all are throwing out from people that own their own business or payroll employees?
@patrickwhite5445 Ай бұрын
Don’t forget The R in HVAC/R. Commercial work is extensive and the on call schedule can be hell.
@she219 3 ай бұрын
Very informative
@RogerWakefield 3 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it
@jacobbowling263 3 ай бұрын
Hi Roger it’s been a while since I’ve watched a video of yours I hope you’re well and I hope you take care of yourself your videos are awesome.
@CommercialGasEngineerVideos 3 ай бұрын
Well said. Still making awesome vids.
@RogerWakefield 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for coming back Mr. Jacob, hope all is well with you too
@ant.8673 2 ай бұрын
I’ve been doing property maintenance for 9 years. I make around 34 hour, but I’m by myself 90% of the time. Thinking about going into plumbing or hvac.
@shakishingi 3 ай бұрын
I've been plumbing around 4 years in Ontario canada and still haven't been signed into the apprenticeship program. It's frustrating
@joeychessguy1471 3 ай бұрын
Are you in the union?
@humbertomacias3239 3 ай бұрын
"Get in and prove yourself" -Roger Wakefield
@RogerWakefield 3 ай бұрын
Roger Wakefield 2024
@nickmc9394 3 ай бұрын
My favorite plot line from Community
@realSamAndrew 2 ай бұрын
Saying a salesperson is "in the trades" is exaggerating. They are in a trades industry, but not in the trades. A receptionist or an accountant for a plumbing company could do the same job at any company. If you have a pharmaceutical rep, ie "salesperson", you don't say they went into medicine or the medical field. They are in the sales profession and happen to be selling for a company that makes drugs.
@Thezwang6 10 күн бұрын
I did the 4 year college thing, graduated and went into the normal office job. Everytime I change a job, I think about looking into a trade. Everytime I do any kind of manual labor, I feel more fulfilled, sleep better at night with a smile on my face, and just seem to wake up excited at the prospect of doing it again. With that said, I never know what trade to consider. How can I decide what trade to consider and look at for trying to either go to trade school or pursue further?
@ryanmccarthy406 2 ай бұрын
I’m a journeyman carpenter looking to get a service plumbing job in the evening since I end work at 3:30pm everyday. Would companies want to hire for someone like that Roger?
@BuuWantChocolate 3 ай бұрын
When he says top earners he isn’t referring to the best at the family owned and operated companies. He is referring to the companies that rose to the top by providing the best possible service and customer experience in a large city. There’s opportunity in large cities with high median income for a company to dominate the market and become well known for having the best talent, customer satisfaction, and overall quality of work in any trade. So when you hear 500k salesman it’s a large well known company that is dominating the market selling multiple systems a day. He touches on recruiting briefly when he says listen to who is advertising! That’s not just to get customers it’s to draw the best talent to the doors, what do you think when you hear an ad multiple times a day and your looking for a place to land, probably benefits and growth opportunity.
@jakejohn2970 3 ай бұрын
Those high-end earners, are those business owners or like specialized plumbers/Hvac techs?
@ismaelamaro7728 3 ай бұрын
He was talking about highly experienced techs as well as salespeople.
@-slurmdaddy-8147 3 ай бұрын
Getting EPA certified to work with refrigerant is not exactly easy but at same time to compare that to what real state licensed plumbers test for is vastly different.
@AquaTech225 2 ай бұрын
Not hard at all
@-slurmdaddy-8147 2 ай бұрын
@@AquaTech225 lol ok bud
@AquaTech225 2 ай бұрын
@@-slurmdaddy-8147 I have it. It definitely wasn’t the hardest of any exams I’ve taken in my life by a long shot. It isn’t even a hell of a long exam either. If someone wants it an puts in some time to know it. It isn’t that bad
@VampyrX741 3 ай бұрын
Starting my apprenticeship at 25, I think one thing people should be aware of is although plumbing hires a lot, it might NOT be easy to find a company that wants to teach you. I applied to more than 50 companies before one of these called me back.
@RogerWakefield 3 ай бұрын
That’s the main problem is finding a company wanting to spend the money or time hiring someone green and teaching them the right way to do things….which is unfortunate
@BuilderBob1 3 ай бұрын
But you know the real people raking in the moola are nuclear engineers. I love nuclear physics, it's really interesting once you understand it! Honestly, neurosurgeons make more though.
@Angelo87653 2 сағат бұрын
Companies are hurting for journeyman. Not apprentices
@avidcollector869 3 ай бұрын
Cool
@garbo8962 3 ай бұрын
In my area HVAC always made more money then the turd tossers. Those two trades & eletrcians always busy with a ton of overtime or moon lightning obertunities.
@AbigailSanchez-kc6eh 2 ай бұрын
Both. Self contracted. IResssss
@johnw6908 3 ай бұрын
$300-$500k for your salesperson and 150k/$72hr for installers....... I guarantee, you are ripping people off. I'd also guarantee the duct leakage and delivered efficiency of those newly installed systems is horrible.... if you even installed new ducts.
@justinperales7206 3 ай бұрын
Try out pipe fitting it’s basically both
@ismaelamaro7728 3 ай бұрын
Ain't that mostly welding?
@Kevin-ip8uf 3 ай бұрын
You could get into QA/QC on sites and never pick up a tool. Just do inspections and watch flange bolt ups. Client pays you to say it's done right lol
@markgordonfishing1393 3 ай бұрын
:54 Tv and radio?! What’s that?! That company’s not with the times if that’s how there advertising!
@RogerWakefield 3 ай бұрын
How would you advertise?
@markgordonfishing1393 3 ай бұрын
@@RogerWakefield wherever customers are looking
@RogerWakefield 3 ай бұрын
So a TV, or radio when commuting to work..😂
@user-id4hh6bd7n 3 ай бұрын
The harder you work in hvac, the longer your days will be. The past 7 years coworkers will quit and the ones that don’t will half ass every single thing causing you to go behind them after your jobs are completed. Don’t forget all those hard earned hours will be eaten up by taxes also.
@trademastersonline 3 ай бұрын
Plumbers are different than HVAC techs.
@ShootieMcShoot 3 ай бұрын
Rather be in an attic in 100° than touch doodoo water and pipes 🤢🤮
@RogerWakefield 3 ай бұрын
New construction is an option
@JAYY_JAYY 3 ай бұрын
ELECTRICIAN THE BEST TRADE
@RogerWakefield 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@Kevin-ip8uf 3 ай бұрын
Sounds like electrician propaganda
@christophercousineau9118 Ай бұрын
Probably the trade with highest work related deaths. O no we lost another apprentice today he f d around and got they ol sparky ⚡️
@user-su5ft8lc9q 3 ай бұрын
Hvac is highly educated Plumber's just need to know poop goes downhill.😅
@tacklebox6239 3 ай бұрын
Any sales guy making 300-500k a year is doing that by being unethical. These two clowns have that greedy look in their eyes when they’re just talking about. Like they wish so hard they had a couple of them on the team.
@RogerWakefield 3 ай бұрын
I’m fine with you calling me a clown…I’ve heard worse, but for you to call this hard worker , Jon Wren, over at Rescue Air a clown and unethical worker towards his customers is just wrong. You need to do research over the company he works for and see just all the great work they do….someone being successful in their job doesn’t make them unethical…
@tacklebox6239 3 ай бұрын
@@RogerWakefield The look on y’all’s faces are glowing just talking about a sales guy that takes home 500k. Don’t pretend you don’t know that those type of guys are out there lying, scamming and exaggerating to make thise type of numbers. If you’ve been in the industry long enough you know exactly what I’m talking about. Never said he or you directly is the unethical ones, yall has his henchmen do the dirty work.
@RogerWakefield 3 ай бұрын
Yes I know those people exist unfortunately...neither Jon or I, or anyone at the company he works at, are those type of people.
@ismaelamaro7728 3 ай бұрын
I don't know dude, sounds like you're the jealous one. Quit hating on others' success. Just cause you're not hitting those kinds of numbers doesn't mean you've got to skirt morality to do so.
@tacklebox6239 3 ай бұрын
It not hating. Just stating facts. If you worked in the industry you’d understand. You’re probably another desk jockey
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