This poor guy recommended a 3/4 ton for this. JD pounced on that lol!

I really enjoyed the interview approach. I still don’t like cable slides. I’ve seen used ones and the rubber gets chewed up and I’ve seen more issues with them. Totally agree on the suspension. I just wish people understood the importance and safety aspect of the suspension, tires and brakes.

Should have grilled him more about the blue generator. They are SO LOUD. I would agree that competition for Onan is good. Great video! You don't get this opportunity every day.

Awesome! I love Toyhaulers!!

Great video! Tony is our sales rep here at Custom RV here in Amarillo as well and he is absolutely correct. These Rogue Armored Tot Haulers are absolutely the best value toy hauler in the industry!

He is absolutely right about running the battery down.

I know it’s a real thing but I’m soooooo tired of “supply chain issues”. I think it give too many manufacturers/businesses an out on not doing things right. The best thing on this unit is that generator. Thank you for the in-depth video.

Nice to discuss the Generator area, in depth. 🏍💨🏍💨

Great video! JD, I appreciate you pointing out that this should be towed by a one ton! I don't understand why these manufacturers, go after such a small demographic of people who may or may not have a proper truck, whether it's a half ton or 3/4 ton, to pull a fifth wheel that is better suited to a one ton!! Most people don't own such a truck, nor do they check their ccc/payload!

Great video and interview. Your factory rep is the consummate Politician. He says yes, nods his head and smiles, All the while thinking “ That will never happen”. Like you mentioned the safety and reliability factor is well worth the extra few hundred bucks.

I’m not a Toy Hauler fan but, that is a nice price for what you get with this Toy Hauler. Thanks for sharing JD nice review.

I just took a tour around the same unit. One thing that I found really cool was in the garage. Rogue posted d*** near most of the popular side by side sizes and dimensions. Sure enough, my x3 max. X Rs was on that list and it was in the size of the garage. Pretty cool that they're able to personally. Show you what your size is and that it will fit.

Man, I hope you have more opportunities to have a dealer rep onsite while touring RVs. Its very insightful to here certain details from their point of view. Its good to see them take constructive criticism as well. Good stuff, as always! Thanks, JD!

That Alliance Paradigm sitting beside those looks VERY nice ;)

Now that’s a great designed toyhauler, just the right amount of garage and nothing fancy that makes the price go up, plus that rear wet bath 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

We just got a Rogue 4007 for full time. Came from a Grand Design Reflection. We like the 4007 layout and huge garage for office space

Well as an rv tech u love everchill fridge they been very profitable.

This looks like a great unit. One comment I would like to add to your toy hauler reviews, indicate the door size. We have found this to be a limiting factor for our SxS. Thanks!

That's a big rv for them shackles. I guaranty I'll put money on it. Them springs, or shackles will brake in the first 6 months off traveling. I'm just talking with the video lol. Don't mind me.

Good morning. Great review.

I think that guy is out to lunch if people are towing with a 3/4 ton. I have a 16.8K toy hauler I wouldn't tow without a dually over windy and hilly areas... I get you can do flat low wind areas but payload wise, be surprised if they arent over loaded. you are correct, my GD has a schwinteck for the wardrobe and a R/P for the big slide

Great video! Wonderful detail.

Hello JD. As the owner of a 2019 Vengeance 348A13 purchased new. I was really not impressed with the new Rogue line up. We toured several models 2 weeks ago and my wife and I felt that ours was better built and definitely has way more options for less money than the "New" models. Our unit has dual 7K torsion axles with the LCI easy approach hydraulic lift system, power happy Jack power bed/couch. Plus a nicer interior. My wife and I feel like Forest River pulled 30k out of these units and upped the price by that amount. By the way, we pull our unit with a single rear truck and have for over 3 years now. 12-15 camping trips per year, in South Carolina pulling the mountains often. Love my Titan XD Diesel!

That's pretty cool that Tony was willing to take some time out to talk with you. I'd like to think it's just because that's the kind of service they provide and not just because they know you run a KZfaq channel with almost half a million subscribers, but that probably is the case.

Very informative I like how you call out the manufacturers on where they go cheap on stuff. Let’s see a review on the Stryker ToyHauler line up .

I'd like to see a video explaining the benefits of the rhino pin box vs a traditional one. I don't like the fact that it doesn't protrude past the front of the coach. That would limit your turning radius even more in a short bed truck. Alot of folks won't even think about that when deciding on a new toy hauler.

I personally would love this unit. I would have enough room to bring my big griddle and smoker with me and have room for either a golf cart or side by side. Can you please do a video of handicap options for these units. By that I mean chair height toilets, grab bars, and other features that can help someone that is partially handicapped to enjoy the unit.

Our trailer has a cable slide and it has had several issues. We will not own another trailer with them. We also replaced our standard suspension components with the heavy duty shackles and morryde equalizers - what a huge difference! I must say 2 axles just doesn’t seem like enough for such a large trailer.

Good call on the batteries

Well done. I'm very glad you didn't let that 3/4 ton nonsense go. I pulled a 40 foot toy hauler with an F350 SRW and even though all the weights were within spec it was not fun to tow. Not fun at all. I weighed it at a CAT scale on our first trip to have some peace of mind. I added airbags to level the truck but on a windy drive there were a few white knuckle moments. That's why I don't own it anymore. This trailer needs a dually and that's a fact. I would argue that all day long. You were polite but tenacious about the things you'd like to see upgraded and I appreciate that. While I'm not a fan of cable slides I'd much rather have those then the schwintec slide that's on our current TT. Every time I cycle that slide it feels like it could be the last time. This thing is a beast and not for me but it was very cool to watch your review.

💥💥💥JD YOU ARE 100% RIGHT ABOUT INCLUDING THE HEAVIER SUSPENSION FOR AN EXTRA $300!! THESE PEOPLE NEED TO STEP UP AND PUT THE HIGHER QUALITY COMPONENTS ON THEIR RV'S FOR THE CUSTOMERS PIECE OF MIND AND SAFETY!!! 👊👊👊

I have the same model but a 2020. So far I really like it. A couple of small issues I'm dealing with but they're minor. I would have liked have had the Yamaha Gen but I couldn't get it switched out. If I was to ever buy another toyhauler this would be the one I'd go to again. I throw my side by side in it and still have room for more stuff!

Awesome. My parents live in Rockport Texas

That's a great looking unit. I have a 32' 2021Toy-hauler by Forest River, bumper pull, that has the same features as this one like the hinge assist back ramp, fuel station looks exactly alike with the hose pump back, 5500 Yamaha generator with the manual start, but not an inverter, witch I've had to use a couple of times. It came with 12 volt batteries that discharge enough during the night while using the furnace to keep warm so I've changed to duel 6 volt batteries for the longer amp hours but next week is the first time using the battery system while boondocking. With a 190 amp solar panel system I'm interested to see how it works compared to 12 v. It's good to have a tour of a unit with a Rep to get some feedback from the Company as well. Great video JD. 👍🇺🇸

Very good info

No insulation. Dude what's the thing with not putting insulation under the floor. Now you know why you need 3 ac units.

I have the westlake G rated tires and they have 6500mi and are have plenty of life left on our 16.8K toy hauler

I would never (from experience) never tow that with a single rear wheel gas or diesel.

I admire the cap design, kinda like viper eyes.

Tell him airbags don’t add weight capacity on the truck.

I think good unit for asking price👌

Beautiful rig

And look at that little baby pine box.

Due to load capacity and if you are carrying another vehicle in the back end you know two-seater four-seater type of you know razor or whatever the heck you call those things and all the tanks hopefully you're not driving around the road with all those tanks field but nonetheless I definitely would want to see a upgrade in the suspension I'm a big believer in way overdoing it because there's just far more safety when you overdo things there's nothing wrong with Overkill under kill will kill Overkill typically doesn't

Love it.

I recommend mic’ng the person you’re interviewing.

I know, being picky here but-----------> 1. on further reviews, could you state if all, or any part of the coach graphics are painted because decals are the 1st thing to go. 2. What your opinion is of their insulation specs upon visual inspection. 5 air conditioners don't make it if the coach insulation is questionable. 3. You are 100% correct, safety is a huge issue. If any manufacturer tries to sell its RV by removing what is a safety component that is deleted because of marginal cost, while not popular with them, call them out as you did. In my opinion, while raising the MSRP of these units somewhat, there should be an ACCEPTABLE standard. I know, there is what I believe is called the NVIA, or maybe NVIDA, but that is just baloney. These manufacturers need to be held to standard to protect not only their customers, but also the public that rides on the roads with them. Cutting corners on safety is a no go for me. This is why your channel, and other channels like yours are important. In my humble opinion.............if the manufacturer at the very least is not worried about me, and my family's safety when doing what their product was supposedly designed to do.......tow down the road, then I am not interested in doing business with them. If it is tires, shackles, or suspension, please continue to point this out. Our families mean far more to us than 3 or 500 bucks, so keep on them. And any suggestion that it is incumbent upon us to upgrade these components upon purchase is ridiculous! If we aren't getting the safest product upon purchase, then they do not deserve our dollars! I never believe in government intervention in the private sector, but some of these RV manufacturers need to be brought to heel. Unless people watch channels like yours, they have no idea they could be getting a sub par product, for the savings of a few bucks, and the safety of their families and others on the road with them. As you have stated------------>RVs are mostly built by hand, so of course they are going to have problems. They weren't designed by hand though, were they! If safety for the public and purchaser is not a concern, I harken you back to the Ford fiasco known as the Pinto. I own a 5th wheel, which is not a toy hauler. But, if I was in the market for one that was a toy hauler, I would be asking how many designers at this manufacturer are smoking something funny, and walk away from any product they sell if this is how they want to do business. To try and undercut price point at any cost to safety, is totally unacceptable! Cable slides? Well, that is up to us as consumers to decide. LED, halogen, or incandescent? Same thing. Pleather or fabric? Also. But safety!!!!!!!!!!! It has to be built into the product. We consumers are not engineers, which is why channels like yours are so important. Many seasoned buyers, and especially new buyers, would never, ever know. Keep up the good work, always be skeptical, and at least try and resolve the question--------->why is this unit 5,000 less than this unit. Most of us know why, it is just where they took the 5,000 bucks out we don't. Find it for us-) Little side note--------->it won't make the manufacturer happy, but your subscribers would be thrilled. At least they could then weigh the pros and cons of a 5000 dollar price hike, or take the chance on what might very well be a sub par product. Leave it to them what they see as important. Sorry for the rant people, but it just frosts me that RV manufacturers can do these things without, it appears, consequences.

I would sooner have upgraded suspension than fancy window blinds!

great video = i thought the sales rep was going to run

I would like to see the deck down on all it is not the same as.

My tt is in for warranty work, because of that slide system...junk! 10 months old

I wish someone would talk R factors in walls and roof and floor, why is every toy hauler have the same wood design can’t they make it look like a Luxe or DRV. Don’t like the bedroom why can’t they put the bed the other way anyway. Did not show W/D area. Don’t like big sofa would take that out and put dining area with desk and turn the garage into a living summer room with TV, unless you have a toy, would rather have 8,000 lb axle to be safe. Other then that it’s a ok RV.

I don’t like the generator exhaust exiting to the front.

Anyone know if it possible to get something like this in Europe and what the price would be?

45ft of trailer on a 3/4 ton truck only if your name is Evel Knievel. This looks to much like the cherokee wolf pack line. Which are 20k to 30k less.

I suggested this, I suggested that. That was my idea. Good grief.

My husband and I are in the market for a toy hauler since our kids are about to leave the nest and we bought a motorcycle. But I noticed with viewing a lot of units online that most do not come with the 6 point hydraulic leveling like our current fifth wheel. Is that just a cost savings for the manufacturer or is there other reasons why the toy haulers don't have that?

You just don’t like cable slides. Have you ever had a unit with them?

Ask them why they put such a crap sound system on this thing! If your the kind of person that needs a toy hauler, you going to need music while out having fun with the toys and convoy of friends!

Goodyear trailer tires are not US mgf, they are made in China.

Is that Yamaha generator gas or diesel?

Toy Hauker manufactures need to get with the times. Everyone has 4 seat sxs’s. YOU CANNOT HAVE REAR SLIDES AND COMFORTABLE FIT A SXS. Why is ATC the only company that has figured this out. I’ve been in the market for 3 years trying to find something. All I can seem to find are live in quarter race trailers and ATC.

3/4 ton towing? Idk about that.

They cheaped out on the axe. Over 40ft. 2 axle that bi.. is gonna sway like a tird in a toilet. All you new rv people stay away from this. It's a death trap.

cornered showers and 2 doors in the bathroom is trash, please tell these manufacturers to stop doing this

Why toy haulers?

The Goodyear Endurance trailer tire is NOT American made. I worked for Goodyear for 15 years and actually built this tire. They moved the line to Mexico 2 years ago when they closed my plant which had been operational since 1929 in Gadsden, Alabama.

Lol say its bad. Come on its junk

Rep talks about reduction of opt's as a buyer pro but it's really all about money for the manufacturer. The rest in my humble opinion is b*******

I got 7mins and that's all I needed to know these are cheaply build crap.....