The Batman build...and i get to the point where they talk about this, i'm totally original....

Not a lot of enemies are resistant to that condition either, very widely applicable

Playing a 7 lvl thief and 3 level armorer and its a blast. I wear plate and basically just take the loss of advantage on stealth rolls with infilitrator armor but having a 20+ armor with a shield out is amazing at being able to front line.

hawkeye or green arrow ot batman

they are literally the definition of stealth trooper. If you have winged tiefling then you get paratroopers. Just a 2 level dip into war wizard also makes a helluva lot of difference to boost your artiificer rogue to super

very useful for things like Belts of Giant Strength

To butcher the Mask of Zorro: "Pointy end goes into the other man... very hard!"

Funny story, I used to give my DM an aneurism on the regular while playing Pathfinder by playing a Rogue/Barbarian who used his Rapier as a two handed bludgeoning weapon :D

I once tossed a dagger using my strength on my Paladin. DM didn’t believe I could cause it just doesn’t happen often lol.

@@NeoZanther you can even do strength for darts.

this was actually nice to know as my CE drow rogue are going to multiclass into a fiend warlock as part of our campaign

That’s a hell of a build. I started building a Tabaxi Fiend Warlock as a rival for my brother’s Shadow Monk, and 2-3 levels of Rogue would be absolutely nuts.

Yeah. I played a Roguelock in one campaign and it was awesome. My character used Disguise Self to seduce a high ranking military official, steal important military documents, and then frame an innocent person for the crime. It was awesome.

As someone who is playing the exception to this rule, here's a quick tip. Elven Accuracy is mandatory. Sharpshooter is second pick. All else is elective.

I can't wait to see what madness or perhaps Sadness this video inspires. Good luck Colby!

@@exomancer3632 You playing the Double Phantom build by chance?

@@exomancer3632 This, so much. No need for any Double Phantom shenanigans, it works without that as well.

@@exomancer3632trust me, you don’t have to twist Colby’s arm to choose elven accuracy 🤣💖

I've really been wanting to try the Cleric/Rogue combo. I've been thinking Peace Cleric/Thief Rogue as a battlefield medic with a crossbow.

It was actually my first 5e character. A knowledge cleric rogue (can't remember the subclass now). Played him as a sort of "root out heresy from within" kind of trope, and he was a lot of fun!

I think the reason to go Rogue levels on a Twilight cleric is to nerf Twilight cleric, make the game more balanced. In other words, you'd probably have more power as a straight Twilight Cleric. But more fun as multiclass.

Yes. I briefly played a Rogue 1/Trickery Cleric 9, and she was the most fun and effective build I’ve ever made. (And I’ve been playing a Vengeance Paladin for four years, so I know what power feels like!) Had her for an elaborate heist my DM developed for six players and she probably could have solo’d it.

Also helps that the original order that gave name to the "assassin" job were religious.

Can you go inside the bottle, then the druid grabs it and shapeshifts into a rat and then as he's holding it it just blends with him?

​@@Skarpo89Probably up to the DM on something like that

@@Skarpo89 rules as written that’s exactly how it works

Another thing to add to this, if you take the earth genie (I think it's the djinn I've forgotten the name) you deal bludgeoning damage equal to your proficiency bonus. This really works well with the crusher feat, as you can get forced movement on LITERALLY anything. It can essentially function as a free disengage, or for characters who really want forced movement. For example, an arcane archer using grasping arrow with this is pretty great, as you can immediately push them 5 feet dealing 2d6 poison and 2d6 slashing (from the forced movement). It's a bit of an investment but man it can work well!

@@lardoterblanche4230that is exactly what I have done on my current build! The Genie that adds bludgeoning is called "Dao"

I've been playing a Roguelock for the last few years. Phantom/Fey Pact. If I am facing one target I will use Booming Blade/Sneak damage/Wails of the Grave + weapon damage. If I am facing more than one enemy I replace GFB for Booming. It's been fun, but "spammy".

While I know it's not an official class how well do you think that rogue multiclasses with blood hunter? 🤔🧐

​@@woutvanostaden1299blood hunter with a rogue dip would be better. A rogue taking a few levels of blood hunter wouldn't be very useful in my opinion.

@@richardduncan2954 It wouldn't necessarily be detrimental to "dip" blood hunter and as far as the other 5 lvl dip extra attack classes go (with the exeption of barbarian and perhaps fighter) blood hunter wouldn't be that inferior to the other options and bloodcurses on a rogue is just really cool (the theme and overdosing on edgieness 🤣🤣🤭🤫🤐😜🤪😇) But I agree that a rogue dip is mechanically better than the other way around. Considering the blood hunters self hurting tendensies evasion and uncanny dodge are very good for a blood hunter. 🤔🧐

Can confirm, played this and with +18 to athletics, I literally could grapple almost anything.

With the Skill Expert feat from Tasha's Cauldron of Everything, you really don't need to dip into Rogue to be great at grappling like this. Also, I think Rune Knight fighter is better than Barbarian for this because its Giant's Might ability makes you bigger as well as gives you advantage on Strength checks. Being bigger is a huge advantage for a grappler because grappling rules in 5e limit you to grappling things which are up to 1 size category larger than you. If you are large-sized, you can now grab huge enemies.

How can an animal hold a psychic dagger RAW? The blade manifests in your hand and you attack with the blade.

@@83ericp So no ape or monkey in the game?

​​@@83ericpCan we not just cloak claws with the psychic blade energy? Also, humans aren't the only animals with hands.

@@SirStanleytheStumblerthis goes for any and all animals that are able to grab/grasp things…like a ninja squirrel.

Baboon CR0, Ape CR½ and flying monkey CR ¼. Ape has extra attack and and a throwing attack. Like with all wild shapes though you might want to find a way to boost to hit chance examples, Bless, archery fighting style if thrown weapons count as ranged, warlock amulet and monk focused aim are options.

Single Ability (Score) Dependent

Rogues are very sad :(

You say that but he already commented on this lol

Rune Knight/Moon Druid = Large bunny without needing concentration. Would need a serious HP boost. But Rune Knight jumps you to large with its first growth power.

I think part of the problem is the 3 main arcane casters are done toward the end. They've already used a lot of energy by the time they get to them, and just don't dip quite as creatively.

100% agree. Im running a rogue/lock right now (swashbuckler/fathomless) and the combination of invocations/pact of the blade/couple of nifty spells per short rest is phenomenal. Not the best rogue multiclass, but everyone always gets blinded with the whole "well, it is only good with hexblade" crap and forget the rest of it. Level 8 with 5 rogue/ 3 warlock and it has been an absolute blast to play with mask of many faces/devils sight. and in 2 levels, ill have thirsting blade for extra attack which rogues never even get in the first place. Shadowblade is great for getting advantage on that one sneak attack. (Also, build is currently a pact of the chain with an awesome imp familiar pretty much guaranteeing my sneak attack but will change the pact later as you can change it anytime you get an ASI in warlock.)

I've played that same build Monty loved, the Arcane Trickster/Bladesinger build that uses Shadow Blade. I only went 2 levels of Wizard and 8 Rogue, but those 2 levels are awesome. Great defense and strong concentration checks from Bladesong, and the mobility to keep throwing Shadow Blades when in a dim light or dark area, which is easy advantage. Also having that decent AC boost helps with getting close for a Booming Blade with a weapon, in my case my character uses a dagger.

A perfect urban ranger

It also gets hold person, which inflicts the devastating paralysis condition to autocrit your sneak attack. Obviously its situational, but when its works its devastating.

Facts, a creative rogue with subtle spell and a few illusion spells can break so many non combat encounters

On the flipside, a swords bard who takes the metamagic adept feat has a similar package for more benefits in my opinion, wich for me could make de sor rogue a b

@@otavioplaysz "bard is best class, everything else is bad" Bard doesn't get sneak attack and fireball or dominate monster on the same turn. You need to spend a feat for that, falling behind in statistics such as spellcasting ability and you get like 5 times fewer sorcery points. And you don't get an initiative bonus above 5, unless you spend another feat. So what makes this idea so good, that rogue-sorc should be put on a lower ranking?

Sorcerer gets Haste and is one of the only (self contained) options for double sneak attack in a round.

I support this! Not only are Metamagics very versatile and does the Swashbuckler get an awesome initiative with a charisma investmen , you can also pick up Booming Blade. Now you use your action to Booming Blade with a Sneak attack on top, you can quicken a second Booming Blade giving you a nice burst of damage that scales well. Then the Swashbuckler allows you to step away from the target without provoking an attack of opportunity forcin the target to either stay put and not be able to get back into melee, or move and take the extra damage from Booming Blade. I think any Rogue with Metamagics and a decent spell to concentrate on, is at the very least interesting (if your DM allows you to use Booming Blade with Shadow Blade you won the lotery), but a Swashbuckler with Booming Blade and quickened spell metamagic takes the hit-and-run playstyle to a whole new level.

I think it's an over looked pairing. I'm about to play a Swashbuckler/ Hexblade, Pact of the Chain, Warlock in a campaign. I'm exited for Booming Blade paired with the Fancy Footwork ability, also Darkness and Devil's Sight combo to give me reliable advantage. Since I can only Sneak Attack once per turn and I have a good vary good chance of hitting with my one attack the bonus action attack from my imp familiar is pretty substantial. Plus Hexblade's Curse making 19 also a critical hit is very good for rogues with sneak attack, it synergizes well with Swashbuckler's mechanics for one on one dueling with the strongest enemy.

Play as a bugbear for that extra reach, plus it totally fits their lore.

@@johnalderton5857 FREE HUGS!!!!

Barb rouge lolll I just pictured a barbarian in bright red lipstick and pink blush. 😂

As I mentioned on another comment: With the Skill Expert feat from Tasha's Cauldron of Everything, you really don't need to dip into Rogue to be great at grappling like this. Also, I think Rune Knight fighter is better than Barbarian for this because its Giant's Might ability makes you bigger as well as gives you advantage on Strength checks. Being bigger is a huge advantage for a grappler because grappling rules in 5e limit you to grappling things which are up to 1 size category larger than you. If you are large-sized, you can now grab huge enemies. I admit that Reliable Talent is nice for it though...

@@zorn3255 but wouldn't giant barb get the same thing with the large size and advantage on str checks

1-3 level in hexblade warlock are really good for any rogue

@@Whoracle8531 Genie warlock also works really nicely with Rogue with that Prof-bonus damage to your sneak attacks which means you aren't slowing down your DPR at all.

I think they are also underestimating pact of the chain. Invisible familiar help action. Not to mention the infiltration ability pact of the chain gives. And if you go against creatures or people with out poison immunity you have a pet that can assassinate someone. Not to mention a swashbuckler would love a pet thematically.

@@patrickigbeka1234 THIS! playing a roguelock right now that is 5 swashbuckler/3 fathomless (not the best warlock ironically, but i don't care the flavor is great lol) kind of an ex-naval captain/pirate vibe and has his imp familiar on his shoulder and it's great for guaranteeing that sneak attack. AoA is great on a rogue as you can uncanny dodge to reduce damage to you and get more mileage out of AoA. If i was building more "optimally", undead warlock works great, fiend is excellent (and story wise might switchand have already discussed with DM), hexblades obviously work, Genie is great. 2-5 levels in warlock works for so many classes outside of maybe monk and ranger and thats only cuz of stats

Even level 3 to reach level 2 spells so you get things like Invisibility, Mirror Image or Misty Step + Pact of the Chain to get yourself a permanent invisible Familiar that can Help for advantage or just stay there and give you the flanking option for Sneak Attack. Playing right now an Undead Warlock Rogue as well, the combo of Form of Dread, Booming Blade and the off-turn Sneak Attack is a really fun one. And outside of combat, you are still a charming bastard with Charm Person, Suggestion, Mask of Many faces, a remote control spy, etc. Like you mentioned, is a B due to how much fun you can have with it both in combat and outside of it.

I remember a Soulknife/Beast Barbarian combo that can get 4 attacks per turn by level 8.

@@willbender9035 how?

@thalesmeira5850 Beast Barb Lvl 5 & Soulknife Lvl 3. With the claws option from beast barbarian, you attack with your claws, which triggers a free attack. Then, the second of your extra attack, you attack with mainhand soul knife. That qualifies for the Bonus Action attack from the second soulknife. If all four attacks use strength & are melee you get the Rage bonus damage too.

I think Rogue Wizzard is an A, not because of the bladesinger rouge build, although I think that is a good build maybe more wizard than rouge though so maybe more a point when it comes to their wizzard multi-class video. I think Rogue Wizzard is an A because their general standard for an A is that there are so many good build or dip options that you almost can't go wrong, and I think that is so true for the wizzard. All the stuff you pointed out, I would just say in particular any intellengce rouge espically benefits ofc. The real stand outs to me are arcane trickster with illusionist or enchanment Wizzard, but really almost any wizzard is a boon to almost any rouge. It gets a lot of the flavor and verstatility you want from the bard with the spells but can double up a little easier for some of the best Rogue subclasses because they already want intellegence. Expertise in investigation, I think is an easily underrated option where so many traps and puzzles have conditions where you get more information from good investigation checks. Also while perception might be better in a flash like seeing enmies before surprise or a trap someone is about to step on, any time you do have time, investigation should be allowed as a stuible if not superior subsitute for perception. Definately a know, your party, know your campaign, know your DM thing though. As always it is a good time to speak to your DM and explain to them what you are hoping for out of it and adjust if that doesn't vibe with their campaign or how they do ability checks.

I did arcane trickster/divination wizard, booming blade is extremely powerful when you have a single, hard hitting attack

Hexblade has been prettily heavily covered in these videos, especially given that most Lock dips by other classes are for Hexblade.

I started thinking about it when a new coworker turned out to play D&D and I asked her what she'd play if I could help form a group. Artificer Rogue. That's when I realized that Battle Smith or infiltrator Armorer, with Rogue levels, would be so fucking good. I play a single-classed guardian Armorer in my own primary game, so I had a good starting point to tell her how awesome the character would be.

Thief/Alchemist has a lot of fun shenanigans. Especially if you're taking the Alchemy jug. You're tossing vials of oil and acid, likewise you can craft poisons, you can use stuff like caltrops, and even manacles.

​@@LupineShadowOmegaassassin alchemist could work

Indeed, this series has rocked many socks

On the contrary, it has socked my rocks

I'm not sure that is accurate RAW, they might have mispoken on that one. As soon as they said it, I was like I don't think so. Unless the lightning gauntlet says it is/counts as a fenese weapon... Edit: it is a ranged weapon so it just works RAW and clearly works my bad.

@@brcoutme I was thinking the same thing, until I looked it up. Sneak Attack also works with ranged weapons, and the lightning launcher "counts as a simple ranged weapon." I also like that once per turn you can add 1d6 to the damage. It helps to offset the sneak attack progression you miss out on by sacrificing 3 levels of rogue for 3 levels of artificer.. And because the extra damage from your lightning launcher happens even if the attack isn't eligible for sneak attack, it might actually come out ahead.

​@toddhadley9002 Another thing is since the lightning launcher is a ranged weapon, you can use sharpshooter with it. The longer range doesn't matter (though it may be useful with other ranged weapons you have), but the extra damage and ignoring of half and three-quarters cover does. I actually planned to use it for a regular Armorer I made

Be an AG Barb and make that an S

Don’t you need to take a feat to dual-wield rapiers since they aren’t light?

@jasenandstuff yeah you do need to take dual wielder but atleast it also gives you a +1 to ac if you are holding 2 weapons

@@mohammadmurie the rp for this is super cool too - a pirate berserker whose ghost crew fights alongside them when they rage

@MrAlbinoGhost dude facts it is just so perfect

I've been sleeping on Beast barb until recently but it seems pretty fun

Yeah and the fact you would deal more damage then a straight rogue on average makes it even better

This is cool! but I think soulknife needs you to not be holding anything in your other hand, no? I could be remembering incorrectly

@@grundgymoozuh8427 had a look and essentially you are right, a soul knife blade vanishes after attacking hit or miss, so the feature allows you to form and attack with another one in your free off-hand as a bonus. So no shield allowed here to get the bonus attack specifically from Soul Knife

It's still good even after you get Uncanny Dodge since it can also give +4 to a saving throw. Uncanny Dodge helps you with attacks and the War Mage feature helps with save or suck

@@trippmarcus9798 Great point! Plus depending on how open the D.M is, you can use the +2 AC to completely negate the attack vs taking half.

And being a wizard you can also have shield so that also add a blanket of protection in situations

I just wish I could be a player to fulfill my swashbuckler/battlemaster dream. Eternal DMing is both a blessing and a curse. :D

@@ArchibaldVonSkip This combo is in my head also. Don´t have time for a second campaign tho. Currently quite happy with Knowledge Cleric 1 / Wizard X :)

@@rsuslik Hey, great minds think alike! I did a template for a Knowledge Cleric 1/Scribes Wizard 7 and one of my players liked the idea! Total nerdgasm to play but he the brain of their duo, the brawn was a hexblade 2/oathbreaker 7 with PAM and Sentinel (quite OP build, tbh). (2 newer players coming in to join 2 veterans that ran the campaign with me since its inception.)

Don’t mind me doing exactly what you said :) Would be cool to see Dungeon Dudes play the game and comment on the homebrew Larian did with BG3.

For now…

The new wording of GFB and BB from Tasha's actually requires a weapon that costs money (I don't remember if it was one copper or one silver), so shadow-booming blade or -gfb no longer works RAW

I 100% agree with you a small dip in rogue gives you so much, I once did a mid level combo like this but U went with divination for portent (which tbf I think a div wizard dip is good for most classes)

@baileyparr6311 That would still work with Bladesinger's extra attack though since you can cast a cantrip & attack with a weapon. With Shadowblade being the weapon attack. Which was I was referring too, but I may not made it clear.

Get's even better with wild hunter shifter, now going reckless every turn without giving advantage. 😮🤣😂🤭🤫😉😊

Or AG Swashbuckler (or any rogue subclass really if melee except arcane with mobile feat) to just turn off an enemy's turn just being hitting them and then running away

Yeah as at minimum 2ish and maximum 15ish more damage on average IIRC and that is just gravity with all the extra benefits barbarian brings to the rogue At least an A, if not S depending on the subclass to bump it into an S

I think it falls into B because it’s good, but it’s a specific build that is good. You can’t quite mix and match flexibly between the two because of the restrictions on each one.

I feel like there’s also the argument that a Barbarian/Rogue could also be played like a primal hunter. It really works if you flavor the rage to be a bit more like lycanthropy and choose path of the beast. I know you you could replace rogue for ranger, but rogue works a little better with sneak attack and lack of natural spell casting.

Nice. I really want to try it with Phantom myself.

The Rogue + pact of the tome giving you guidance or whatever other cantrip you would. They're so many great combination it saddens me that they can't see it.

Pact of the Tome can also grab phantom steed so you can easily proc sneak attack and have tons of mobility. The Fathomless Tentacles also adds a bit of damage and slows an enemy movement speed with a BA. Or grab invocation for unlimited Disguise Self or Silent Image which has applications in and out of combat. Pact of the Talisman also can help boost ability checks and Rebuke can use a reaction to damage an enemy and push them away from you. Tons of options for a crafty rogue

I think it's an over looked pairing. I'm about to play a Swashbuckler/ Hexblade, Pact of the Chain, Warlock in a campaign. I'm exited for Booming Blade paired with the Fancy Footwork ability, also Darkness and Devil's Sight combo to give me reliable advantage. Since I can only Sneak Attack once per turn and I have a good vary good chance of hitting with my one attack the bonus action attack from my imp familiar is pretty substantial. Plus Hexblade's Curse making 19 also a critical hit is very good for rogues with sneak attack, it synergizes well with Swashbuckler's mechanics for one on one dueling with the strongest enemy.

Make that character a harengon and add your proficiency to your initiative, too. Which does count for reliable talent. I'm playing this right now, having a blast.

@@NuclearNoxi I went pretty vanilla with half elf, figured Jack of all trades was enough for initiative. Mid level +13 works pretty nicely, having Dex & Cha maxed. There are definitely other fun choices out there though. I will say, having a rogue that can polymorph has been fun.

@@worldstiniestviking I use Tashas hideous laughter, hypnotic pattern, or fairy fire to mess with the combatants, then run in and stab. It's pretty fun.

Tulok the Barbrarian actually make a Jason barbarian/rogue build - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bredq8SL0riXpYk.html

@@ChetErez i know, he also made the xenomorph one. Thats how i discovered that multiclass

Potions are magic items. Thief's Cunning Action does not allow them to use magic items in that manner, it's been clarified by Sage Advice

No. A wizard can only ritual cast spells which are in their spell book. Any spell learned as an arcane trickster can't be ritual cast, unless it's also in the wizard's spell book. It does mean that spells such as detect magic, identify, find familiar, etc. don't need to be taken/known as an arcane trickster, so those spells slots can be used for ones you know you'll be casting.

@BW022 I'm aware, and what I'm saying is you can take these spells as a Wizard instead of an AT, which you likely are anyway given that ATs are not ritual casters. Find Familiar is usually the only ritual spell ATs will regularly take, but this build you can take it with Wizard instead to make it a ritual.

Played swashbuckler / bear totem with sentinel and a whip and the mobility, ability to lock down enemies, and take hits all at the same time was great. Also played an emerald dragon born to get the psychic resistance so you resist everything while raging.

@@Bossk84 nice 👍

1 sneak attack a turn. Ba are still a part of your turn so there’s no doubling of sneak attack. If this was possible every rogue would be a 2 weapon fighter getting a second sneak attack with the ba attack.

@@jessemccaughey4231 your turn: move + bonus action (quicken+booming+sneak) + ready for someone else’s turn Someone else’s turn: use reaction: attack + sneak Sneak is once per turn, not once per round. That’s why it works with order cleric or command strike

And the amount of extra gravy the barb gives it at base that then is even more enhanced from the subclass like go bear for more self defense, ag for tank, beast for more attacks, zealot for more damage, etc. And if going giant barb to level 6 that is just more damage and amazing grapples

@@mohammadmurie yup, the only thing you give up is potentially utility, but it's iffy if you even get to reliable talent so-

@@darkestlight660 yeah honestly that is 11th level rogue so the chances for that is slim and even so you can still get it as you are most likely not going 10 levels in barb, the most you would probably go is 8 at most for asi, 7 if you want advantage in initiate and no surprise plus being able ot move the turn you rage, 6th for 2nd subclass level, or 5th level for extra attack So that is a slight decrease in that ultity but the amount of other types of utility, support, and damage barbarian brings is so much worth, way better than straight rogue

Also just did the calcs for it and yeah rapier is even better on barbarian rogue Literally do more damage by not taking 5 levels in rogue There is also beast barb soul knife for 4 attacks a turn that deal even more damage as you can make both your claw attacks and knife attack and bonus knife attack on the same turn

If you're rolling initiative, then Assassinate crit is already off the table

I think it's an over looked pairing. I'm about to play a Swashbuckler/ Hexblade, Pact of the Chain, Warlock in a campaign. I'm exited for Booming Blade paired with the Fancy Footwork ability, also Darkness and Devil's Sight combo to give me reliable advantage. Since I can only Sneak Attack once per turn and I have a good vary good chance of hitting with my one attack the bonus action attack from my imp familiar is pretty substantial. Plus Hexblade's Curse making 19 also a critical hit is very good for rogues with sneak attack, it synergizes well with Swashbuckler's mechanics for one on one dueling with the strongest enemy.