🎹Roland RD2000 vs Kawai MP11SE Digital Piano Comparison, Review & Demo🎹

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Introduction:
The Roland RD-2000 and Kawai MP11 are two of the most highly respected stage pianos in the business. Both have noteworthy features on them that make them equally unique in the space, for different reasons. Whether it’s the full-length wood keys in the MP11, or the thousands of onboard sounds and Piano Modelling Engine on the RD-2000, there’s lots to unpack here with this comparison.
Thanks for watching, and we hope you enjoy!
Tonal Comparisons:
The Kawai MP11 is organized around three modular tone generators (or at least that’s what the interface leads you to conceptualize this as). The acoustic piano engine includes several presets that has both tonal shaping (EQ, envelope) as well as some Virtual Technician-type effecting, so that you as the player have the opportunity to create an entirely customized piano tone.
Moving to the Roland, the RD2000 gives one of the most high fidelity wave signal of any digital product on the market, period. Its near limitless polyphony, and the ability to blend up to 8 internal patches together at once without even batting an eye, makes the RD2000 a dream for keyboardists of all stripes.
The RD2000 offers up to 4 simultaneous effects processors to function, as well as real time EQ, Reverb, Amp simulation, and envelope control.
The Action:
The MP11 uses Kawai’s Grand Feel action, which is oh-so-close to their current Grand Feel Compact action. It uses a triple sensor, an escapement simulator, and of course the full-length wood key that pivots on a mid-point exactly like an acoustic piano.
The action feels robust, extremely responsive, and beautiful to play at any speed, velocity, or genre...it’s really hard to argue that this isn’t the very best action available in a portable product. The only hitch is how one defines portable… at 72 lbs, it’s ½ the weight of a lot of piano players - especially females - who this is being marketed to. I’ve been lugging huge slabs my whole professional life, I’m 5’10” and 180 lbs, and this is back-breaking to try and do myself. So this is either reserved for those with roadies, or studio work.
On the other hand, Roland has deployed their newer action design, designated the “PHA-50”, on several of their high-end models, including HP and LX series instruments. However, the FP90 and RD2000 are the only two portable models to be equipped with this upgrade. The action feels and behaves differently than the PHA-4 plastic action, both in terms of sensitivity as well as physical feel.
Overall Impressions:
The conclusions between these two are quite clear actually. The Kawai MP11se is far more niche than the Roland, and for the crowd it’s targeted at, nothing holds a flame. If the weight doesn’t present an issue, and its use is going to be exclusively as a piano or controller within a multi-device setup, the Kawai has your number. The action is indisputably the best out there, and the piano and e-piano tones are beautiful, rich, and easy to manipulate.
If your needs are more diverse, and include using the instrument in a multi-genre setup, in studio, on stage, decent portability, with plenty of patches and editing flexibility across all sounds, the RD-2000 is a far better choice.
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@MerriamPianos 4 жыл бұрын

Watch our updated comparison of RD2000 vs MP11se. Updates include more playing time and a more comprehensive discussion of feature differences. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p5-EZpiknqezY2Q.html

@actie-reactie 2 жыл бұрын

I bought the kawai mp11se for one reason.....I wanted a digital piano that came as close as possible to the sound of an acoustic piano.... and the key-action to go with it.... yes its heavy...the benefit of that is , that you are a becoming a muscular beast of a man yourself if you carry it around frequently...😄

@gregvadimsky2781 3 жыл бұрын

I loved this review. You did a great job covering the differences between the two pianos. I use only acoustic grand piano and electric piano in an Elton tribute, so understanding the sample quality was a big help. I love your channel!!

@scottc.6504 2 жыл бұрын

I'm new to the channel and new to Merriam Music, but I have to say, for a novice pianist trying to get better, not only do your reviews help (You're the reason I purchased a Kawai MP11SE, but like everyone has to wait 11 years for it to get here, lol), but your tutorials on playing and your website, (that I'm just dabbling in) is awesome. Thanks!

@EddieBeaumontThomas 4 жыл бұрын

I updated to the RD2000 from the 800, primarily because of the ability to connect to soft synths. There's so much you can do with the RD2000. Some of the sounds were for me, not quite there. But the ability to mold these sounds through tonal control and the effects negated these issues.

@clydesandry5351 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely brilliant. I love your reviews. You cover every important detail. Thank you. You also inspire me to keep practicing as you playing is really inspiring 😊

@MerriamPianos 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! We sincerely appreciate your kind words and support. We are always happy to hear that pianists are getting inspired to play and practice more from our videos. Happy playing! :)

@nbtd1959 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the very intelligent review. The Mp11se is exactly what I needed. I have a Korg Kronos, but unfortunately I didn't really care for the piano sounds, the main thing I use. Now I have my MP11se as my main board, and I the second tier of the stand sits my Kronos. Being able to play the Kronos using the MP11's key bed is outstanding. Also, since I don't go anywhere with my instruments, they are permanent fixtures in my home studio. I don't care if the MP11 weighed 175 lbs, it has found it's forever home. Thanks again for your review.

@user-hw6og3hn7v Жыл бұрын

Love the In-Depth on the MP11SE ! I’ve been considering the MP7SE for awhile now. *Great video on that too! We would Love to see more of a direct/pro+con comparison of Those Two (MP11SE & MP7SE) specifically !! Maybe even a little more “in-depth” of Those 2 individually?? Thank you for what you do!! Your videos are 💯+

@MerriamPianos Жыл бұрын

Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thanks for tuning in and sharing your feedback! We appreciate it. :) An MP7SE versus MP11SE comparison video is an excellent idea. I will pass the suggestion along to our production team and I am sure they will do their best to tackle that. It is difficult to get to every request and comparison of course given that there are so many models out there.

@crcc23 4 жыл бұрын

Great comparison as always. For some reason the Roland audio was distorting in the video.

@sanctanox 4 жыл бұрын

My RD2000 is right next to me, still unpacked. I'm excited to unpack it this weekend. BTW: Love your videos. The last video of the RD2000 from you made me order one. I'm from Europe so didn't order at your place but would have done if I was a Canadian.

@BeirnaertNiels 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent review. How about adding the Yamaha CP 88 to the mix? I'd be very interested to see these 3 opposite one another!

@yf1177 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this great review/comparison! Does the RD2000 have a Rhodes setting? Does it have the capacity to split the keyboard? Any bass sounds? Thanks!

@GoWarriors 2 жыл бұрын

I just tried the Rd2000 at the store and the action was really nice. There weren’t any Kawai’s available so I had to settle for the Roland but it was a nice surprise My background is in classical music (10 years of lessons but not very talented) 😕

@fje042 4 жыл бұрын

Would love to see a mp7se review!

@niklasmennel215 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Stu, I just wanted to say, that i find it very refreshing to have such a knowledgeable guy like you, presenting all sorts of different piano/keyboard stuff in such a professional fashion. Btw, i checked out your personal website, and your resume is very impressive and also explanatory for your fantastic playing. Being in the business for this long, and still having so much passion for it, is probably what makes you such a good presenter. Greetings from Berlin :)

@Mikas_Emil 2 жыл бұрын

where is his website? :)

@roanmccormick7923 3 жыл бұрын

Great review!

@DaraM73 4 жыл бұрын

Don’t buy a Nord grand, it’s not good value compared to its shared kawai keybed, mp7se

@maulcs 2 жыл бұрын

Am I correct in assuming the MP11 has a fairly light touch? Still looking for a slab that can replicate the weight of a real acoustic - VPC1 is the closest I've found, but it's not there either.

@geu6270 Жыл бұрын

Awesome honest technical reviews and thanks for being able to skip to a section (for me always action 1st) :)

@MerriamPianos Жыл бұрын

You're very welcome! Thanks so much for taking the time to check out the video and for your kind words! We sincerely appreciate it. :)

@johnclark1925 Жыл бұрын

Love the playing. ❤

@MerriamPianos Жыл бұрын

@bhaveshmistry3255 4 жыл бұрын

Hey you are the best demonstrator always helpful to make a decision. You are a great Pianist and very honest when it’s comes to comparison. I have checked many reviews and I am still a confused which one should I go for but Kawai MP11se my first choice only because of top class key action, I haven’t get chance to try this instruments..I just wanted to know what’s the key weight? It will be great if you can reply me. Thank you so much!

@pianomikeoct 4 жыл бұрын

I have the original MP 11 and the RD 2000 , the Kawai has a beautiful action but the Roland I find a little on the sluggish side and you have to push down harder , I keep the touch on medium and sometimes heavy just because it sounds better than when you make it lighter .

@runder2022 Жыл бұрын

Mp11 sound better for me better then rd2000

@mini14kid 2 жыл бұрын

nice job can you do one on just the mp11se

@mupbelchen010701 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Stu. Thank you again for your professional video! I love your videos! These two pianos are really beasts! I am not a professional musician, I only attach great importance to an acoustic piano sound that is as natural as possible with a digital piano. With these two pianos, however, I have the feeling that I first have to go to university in order to be able to serve these two beasts at all...! How would you, with regard to the piano sound, for example, classify the FP90 in comparison to these two beasts? Better? Equal? Worse?

@brianhoffmann2403 4 жыл бұрын

How important is after touch... ? How important is it in studio and live work... Many boards don't have it. I understand one can fork out some bucks and by another keyboard.. I understand; no problem; However, it seems strange whey they dont have After touch... Im talking about tone wheel aftertouch of course. I mean key after touch...

@mupbelchen010701 4 жыл бұрын

I know a lot of KZfaq people, but nobody explains the pianos as detailed and works out the differences as well as you! Thank you for those great videos! I have a Roland FP30 right now, but I want to improve in the near future. I'm looking for a digital piano that has as good as possible acoustic piano sound. I don't care about anything else! Just the piano sound. Can you recommend a piano?

@MerriamPianos 4 жыл бұрын

If you want portable, and you want the onboard sound, I'm a very big fan of the MP11se, though it is extremely heavy. The ES8 comes close. In terms of stationary units, Kawai's NV-5 is getting rave reviews, and I think the DP-603 Roland also renders very lovely in-person tone. Thanks for the comment! -stu

@mupbelchen010701 4 жыл бұрын

Merriam Music Hello, Stu. Thank you for your quick and detailed answer. I don't know what digital piano I'm going to buy in the future, but I'm going to save until I approx. 2,500euros together...! I've bought the Presonus E5 Activated Boxes to my Roland FP30. The sound of the FP30 has really improved for worlds. I'm gonna be very interested in watching your videos so that when I save the money, I know what piano is the right thing for me! Thank you for your work. Roland

@koyaanisrider6943 3 жыл бұрын

@@MerriamPianos thanks for the excellent playing and reviews! you pointed out the durability of the mp11se`s action. I've no experience with it but from what I've read, it seems to have issues with a little piece of slip tape that wears out and can be replaced. have you heard of that problem? do you consider the mp7se's action as durable? I've noticed some lateral play and it felt very good but slightly fragile. Maybe I'm wrong...

@paxwallacejazz 2 жыл бұрын

I play for a living period I play solo acoustic piano in train Stations harmonically advanced Standards and Originals in Copenhagen except I use a Yamaha with on board speakers which I can no longer live without has allowed me to play 5yrs of normal gigs before Coming to Copenhagen and 5 yrs of playing every day almost on the street. I put this thing through hell. After 10yrs of faithful highly durable service my Yamaha finally needs it's keyboard gone through. I would be playing right now except it's in the shop. If anything I wish my Yamaha had a heavier action. Last time I played one of these through studio monitors I wasn't convinced.

@TopWorldPiano 4 жыл бұрын

THANKS FOR YOUR EXCELENT REVIEW! I'm a professional pianist, very difficult to be pleased by any digital keyboard. I've always been fan of Yamaha, and have had almost all their stage pianos (CP-4 my last one). My last Roland was the RD-600 which made me promise myself I'd never buy Roland again (sound was good in its time, but key system was weak and cheap, breaking in every performance!). All I look for when buying a keyboard is a GREAT AND NATURAL piano sound that responds EXACTLY to what I picture in my mind in terms of sound color and intensity. I've owned the RD-2000 for one year. Though in the store I wasn't crazy about the sound I fell in love with the most FABULOUS ACTION ever found in a digital stage piano. Although this action is not a heavy as I would've liked, it is extremely responsive, and I decided to buy this instrument not just for this, but because after a thorough exploration of the manual in the store, I realized it was posible to PERSONALIZE every single V-Piano Technology sound (the best pianos in the instrument), not just in terms of EQ, effects, hammer noise, string resonance, damper noise, damper and cabinet resonance, key off sound and resonance, lid, etc., but specially in terms of INDIVIDUAL VOICING of each of the 88 keys! You can change in every key, separately, the timbre OR CHARACTER of the sound, from dark and mellow to bright and crispy, the individual VOLUME and even the individual TUNNING of each note you play!! This is just fantastic and never before found in any other keyboard. I've spent hundreds of hours doing this during the last year in just my 6 favorite acoustic pianos. The results are just AMAZING!! IT FEELS, RESPONDS AND SOUNDS just like a REAL GRAND PIANO (actually like 6 different real grand pianos!), exactly designed to my personal taste, but ONLY AFTER ALL THIS WORK. At the end I'm really happy now with this instrument. I can make MUSIC with it and be able to communicate my feelings and emotions almost as exactly as I do with a real quality grand. Obviously it is possible to save all these personalized sounds in an external USB. My only question/complain is... Why Roland musicians and designers didn't do this in the Factory and released an instrument with gorgeous factory sounds??? I'm sure a lot of sales are lost because of this. A real shame! Most employees at music stores don't even now how configurable the RD-2000 sounds are! And most musicians don't have the patience or time to do it. Finally, I just want to tell you how much I enjoy your playing. You´re an excellent pianist with enormous sensitivity. Congratulations!

@1q2w3e4r5t6zism 4 жыл бұрын

A great comment that sums up the whole dilemma (fine adjustment of the seemingly infinite settings).

@TheMichiyoFir 4 жыл бұрын

Would you care to share some of these settings? I’m a classical pianist that always find digital pianos to sound very fake. Even when I had the Yamaha Avantgrande. Loved the action but not the reaction and sound. Now I have the opportunity to pick up an RD-2000 and I’m interested to make it sound as pleasant as possible!

@spada60 3 жыл бұрын

You should have kept your Yammy CP4 way better than the RD2000 better action, wooden keys and the piano sounds blows the Roland RD2000 out of the water

@actie-reactie 2 жыл бұрын

You are a professional pianist and you prefer the roland because of its natural piano sounds over the kawai....??? Ever played the mp11se? Ever felt the key action of the kawai? If not, than you are not knowing what you are missing....

@Alex.onion_ 5 ай бұрын

Honestly, and even if it is subjective, considering the action of the rd 2000 as the most qualitative pianistically speaking is not very objective.The kawaii mp11se is renowned for having one of the actions closest to acoustic pianos at the price of certain concessions (weight). Of In addition, the piano sounds of the kawaii mp11se are certainly less customizable but are extremely precise. I understand that we have preferences but an acoustic piano is not customizable, that's the idea here: a sound as close as possible to an acoustic piano quite simply.

@dougbrewer4133 2 жыл бұрын

Starting at around 6:20, you outlined the three different sound sections (aka "sound modules") in the MP11SE - "acoustic piano", "electric piano" and "sub". You said that this layout was quite different to Yamaha and Roland, but a lot closer to Nord. I was puzzled by that comment. The Yamaha CP88 had been on the market for a year by the time your video was posted, and the CP88 layout is almost identical to the MP11SE. The CP88 also has three sound modules, and the names of those three sections are almost identical to the MP11SE - "piano", "electric piano" and "sub". Your comment may have been accurate for earlier Yamaha models like the CP4 and CP40, but it is not applicable to current model Yamaha stage pianos. Any thoughts?

@Notmehimorthem 3 жыл бұрын

I have owned both the RD2000 and the Roland 700NX (previous model). The action on the RD700NX is better (Pha 3) the RD2000 NX is a bit "Nordy" for my tastes - too light and toyish. Also the best piano on the RD2000 (IMO) is the legacy patch from the RD700NX, the RD700NX Classical Grand. I keep trying to find a better keyboard than the RD700NX (for piano) but so far I have failed. I shall try yhe MP11SE

@7ossam113 2 жыл бұрын

please make a comparison between nord stage and kawai mp11se

@TamirOrkobysPiano 3 жыл бұрын

when will you review the Kawai MP7SE??

@ajotech 7 ай бұрын

I hope Roland updates the RD2000 during NAMM 2024 and if it comes with the option of 73 keys even better, I would definitely get one.

@MerriamPianos 7 ай бұрын

I suppose only time will tell! We have not received any word from Roland on our end regarding an RD2000 update however. But, you never know!

@organblower 4 жыл бұрын

The Kawai is a nutbuster. It weighs 32.5 Kg or 71.65 Lbs whereas the aluminum Roland is 21.7 Kg or 47 lb 14 oz. I heard some distortion on the RD2000 which surprised me because I've found Roland normally to be great sounding. The Kawai in your review amazed me because it's the first Kawai I preferred to any of it's competitors. An FP-30 is more of a possibility for me.

@Pe6ek 3 жыл бұрын

The PHA-4 action on the fp30 is utter shit. Don't ever get that.

@ovonisamja8024 3 жыл бұрын

Why is the sound clipping?

@GaryHuntPianoman 4 жыл бұрын

You talked a lot about the freat midi control you have with the MP11 with the seperate controlable (EASY CONTROL)....How is the RD2000 is it also easy to control anopther keyboard like the MP11 . Is it difficult to set upi like the MP11 ?

@MerriamPianos 4 жыл бұрын

I personally find it tends to be on the software side on whether it's an easy fit or not - for example, I generally use Logic most of the time for DAW software, and their auto-learn automation function will grab any of the knobs on the RD2000 easily...makes software control really easy. I'd say the RD is natively better set up for that. -stu

@zdravkozdravka4313 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, In which instrument is the action of the keyboard more akin to an acoustic piano? Kawai Ca-79 or MP11se?

@dans.4222 3 жыл бұрын

They should both have very similar actions. The CA-79 just has the revised version of the Grand Feel action. So I guess the differences are very subtle.

@TheEndlessquest4k 4 жыл бұрын

ok, you are one of the best if not the very best piano reviewer on the tube, and that's more of a fact then it is a compliment. You should review the Kawai MP7SE. If you did already, I couldn't find it. From the video, it would appear you really LOVE playing the Kawai, much more than the Roland, I understand you chose to get the RD2000 for yourself because of the excessive weight of the MP11SE (...everything is "portable" with a truck and a crane...), BUT the Kawai MP7SE is a very similar instrument, has the RH3 (plastic) action (which is way better than the Roland's) instead of the GF, so it weighs the same as the RD2000. Has like "250 something" kick ass sounds, an amazing "4 drawbar Hammond", nice effects, great master keyboard functions, 4 overlapping sounds/keyboard split point (for custom combinations), a user-friendly switch/knobs/sliders panel (quick and easy to use)... and more. Personally, I wouldn't hesitate in choosing that one over the Roland, or should I say, over any other stage pianos on the market at the present time. I believe it to be the best PRICE/performance/portability/features "COMPROMISE" available at the moment in the stage piano field. (of course, a Casio PX-S3000, weighs a bit more than a guitar on top of being very slim, so one can carry it around quite easily, but... it's quality is "pretty far" from the MP7SE league...) Who needs the RD2000 "1100 sounds", of which I'm sure most of them are totally useless? IMHO, when it comes to digital pianos, Kawai is getting more and more on top of everyone else, especially for the quality/price ratio, overpasses Yamaha, too, which has been my favorite for all my life. When it comes to Roland, instead, I find they can't keep up... I just can't make myself to like their stuff, bad keyboard actions, synthetic fake-ish sounds, complicated/uncomfortable user interfaces and so on... AND, last but not least: pricey, no bang for the buck. Personal opinion, of course, but... I believe there is "some truth", in it

@grahamt33 Жыл бұрын

Where are the 2 expansion slots and how do I get hold of the firmware updates and install them ?

@MerriamPianos Жыл бұрын

Roland has videos on how to install the expansions, which you can check out here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nct1psqSmr-vfX0.html

@toddmorrison7342 3 жыл бұрын

After watching every available video i could regarding these two stage pianos, I decided to buy both; the Roland for gigs, and the Kawai MP11se for my small studio, running it through a pair of Yamaha HS8 studio monitors. This my musician friends, it a dream combo and I highly recommend pulling the trigger on both if you can afford it. The MP11se manual is not very good, quite confusing, but available KZfaq videos such as this one make it much, much easier to learn each one respectively. The MP11se is much faster and easier to learn as it's much more intuitive, and, of course, much less complicated than the RD2000. A lot of keyboards are starting to use large touch screens which I hate because they are not necessary and provide a needless distraction. Much thanks for providing this video, I'm in heaven with these to distinctive, high quality pianos. FYI, I replaced my Yamaha C2 grand piano with these two keyboards. Now I have a lot more room, no more tuning issues, along with endless musical options and diversity! Cheers!

@1973asdf Жыл бұрын

hey man do you still have the Kawai?? whats your opinion after these years?? does it still sound the best? thanks!

@toddmorrison7342 Жыл бұрын

@@1973asdf Yes, I still have it. I almost sold it when I bought a Kurzweil K2700 thinking I no longer needed it. I'm glad I kept it because although it has it's limitations, it's still extremely wonderful to play and inspirational. It still plays beautifully with no issues.

@SylasXavier 2 жыл бұрын

Why not to try vox keyboard? Regards from Brazil.

@jonos138 Ай бұрын

Just watched this again. Does this not take a single damper pedal at all? I know the mp7se takes both. Also, will a double bar X stand hold the weight of an mp11se? Or would a Z stand be better? Or something else?

@MerriamPianos Ай бұрын

Hi there! It really depends on the X-stand. With that said, I would strongly recommend a Z-stand given the weight and size of the enclosure. They're generally far more robust and equipped to handle this type of instrument. In terms of using a single damper pedal with the RD2000, it can be used with just a single pedal. In fact, it comes with a single DP10 pedal. The triple pedal RPU3 option needs to be purchased separately.

@doumingxiao5781 4 жыл бұрын

Can you get a decent stand for that MP11SE ? It cracks me up, hehehe.....

@brentfugett2700 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah that bouncing was killin me.

@actie-reactie 2 жыл бұрын

Agree...

@winterheat Жыл бұрын

I think VPC1 is RM3 Grand II and MP11SE is Grand Feel... maybe VPC1 is slightly more advanced? Just that VPC1... you need to set up the computer and speakers so it is a bit more troublesome

@MerriamPianos Жыл бұрын

The Grand Feel action has a longer pivot length than the RM3 Grand II by approximately 3 cm. With that said, they're both excellent, responsive touches that even the most advanced players will be satisfied with. As you've pointed out, the VPC1 is a MIDI controller, which is quite different than a stage piano like the MP11SE.

@thegood9 3 жыл бұрын

I actually own both of these, and it's not even close. The Kawai is infinitely better. The RD probably a better stage piano given the size, but the Kawai beats it in every other single category.

@TechnoShamanism 2 жыл бұрын

I bought the MP11 five years ago in a decision over the RD 2000…totally irrationally, these past few days I remembered the RD 2000 and wondered if that would have been the better purchase…good to read your comment lol, would love to know why you write this / what your experience is with both.

@thegood9 2 жыл бұрын

@@TechnoShamanism The MP11 is MUCH closer to a real piano in feel and action, in fact, it's not even close. That's the main reason. There are more onboard sounds with the RD2000, and , it is MUCH lighter and easier to transport, but, that's the only advantages it has over the MP.

@gtizzle101 2 жыл бұрын

@@thegood9 Couldn't you also use the MP11SE in a DAW and get any other sound too? Seems that it beats the RD in every way

@thegood9 2 жыл бұрын

@@gtizzle101 Yes, and that's what i do. I practically never use its internal sounds, mostly sticking with Synthogy's Pianos.

@Nico-rw2tl 2 жыл бұрын

@@thegood9 Try VSL pianos...!

@Notmehimorthem Жыл бұрын

There are a few people reporting technical problems with the MP11SE, something to do with an internal tape that becomes indented and effects or even stops play. I think Kawai are aware of this as it has been addressed in other models. The MP11SE is real hard to get in the UK at the moment. Maybe a new version?

@MerriamPianos Жыл бұрын

There was a few issues with the slip tape on older batches of the MP11SE. I believe this has been addressed by Kawai as we have not seen this issue popping up recently. I suppose we will have to wait and see when Kawai releases an update to this fantastic stage piano. :)

@jamesnewberry2945 Жыл бұрын

what speakers do you recommend for MP11 se The keyboard will be used in the home only

@MerriamPianos Жыл бұрын

The Roland KC keyboard amplifiers are a good bet and they would also serve as a good gigging speaker solutions as well if needed.

@tamirorkoby 3 жыл бұрын

You should compare the Kawai mp7se with the Roland RD2000. Same weight and almost same amount of sounds and similar fetchers not the mp11se.

@federicovalmassoni3827 Жыл бұрын

Which keybed on the market is the most similar to the one of the Kaway MP11 but without its sizes? Yamaha P515? Roland RD2000? ... Studiologic NumaXPiano GT? Or Nord Grand? I "have" to decide so to buy 🙂

@MerriamPianos Жыл бұрын

Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! I would say the Roland PHA50 action is probably the closest thing in terms of pivot length and overall feel (although it is quite different). Models like the RD2000 and FP90X are equipped with the PHA50 action. Thanks and hope this helps! :)

@federicovalmassoni3827 Жыл бұрын

@@MerriamPianos Thank you very much for your satisfying reply. Noted it! 👍🏻😉

@krkreta6981 5 ай бұрын

Can anyone recommend speakers for home use for the Kawai 11SE? Up to $400.

@MerriamPianos 5 ай бұрын

Hi! Brent here! A keyboard amp, like something from the Roland KC line, pairs really nicely with the MP11SE in my experiences. :)

@cunjoz 2 жыл бұрын

8:18 Noriki - On the Street

@paulmapp8306 Жыл бұрын

Personally, I think these are the best 2 stage pianos out there. Primarioly form the keybed POV. The Kawai is the best availble and the RD is the only thing that gerts close... RD is better at integrating other sound sources, while the Kawai has a better Piano sound. Ultimately though weight is a big deal for stage use. The Kawai is a LOT heavier than the RD - which is just about mangeable...for home/studio Id go Kawai, for stage the RD.

@MerriamPianos Жыл бұрын

I certainly agree! These are two powerhouse stage pianos! Having access to both of them would be the best solution! ;)

@bhaveshmistry3255 4 жыл бұрын

I was looking to buy a VPC1 but then there’s no sounds so if I want to practice then unnecessarily I have to on my computer, which not a good idea. Both has a good key action, I have checked and read many reviews but then sad part is I don’t have choice because in India this 2 instruments are not in demand so Kawai people don’t keep in stock and no demo facilities. I also have a one more question is MP11se key action is better than a VPC1? And midi information is as good as VPC1 in MP11se? Because i also wants to use VSTI, I have heard Kawai VPC1 triggers very nicely specially for piano sounds and vast difference we can feel then a other midi controllers. See if you can help me because I have decided to go with MP11se Without the demo and it’s huge amount and no return facility in my country. Thank you so much! 🙏

@rodneylock2691 4 жыл бұрын

Go for vpc1 bro, it is amazing. Only downside is no sound bank, you have to get a sound library

@jumpingman8160 4 жыл бұрын

The MP11 wipes the floor with the RD

@MerriamPianos 4 жыл бұрын

...until you need a forklift to get it anywhere ;) ... like I said, would have been my board as well if there had been a few more patch options and about 20 pounds lighter. Thanks for the comment! -stu

@Pe6ek 3 жыл бұрын

@@MerriamPianos But Stu! You say in the video that the RD is "literally on another planet"! So it's forklift vs space shuttle 🤩

@spada60 3 жыл бұрын

The MP7 also wipes the floor with the RD2000

@spada60 3 жыл бұрын

@@MerriamPianos Surprised you didn't go with the MP7se way better than the Roland and you said you would have chosen the MP11se over the Roland if it had more sounds then why not take the MP7se over the Roland. MP7se has way better action and piano sound and other sounds than the RD2000. MP7se has same sound engine as MP11se but with way more sounds that are excellent. It doesn't make sense you chose the RD2000 over the MP7se if you like the MP11se

@MerriamPianos 3 жыл бұрын

@@spada60 I think it would be fairer to say that the PHA-50 and RHIII are different but equally good actions (The RD2000 and MP7se actions), so I'd never deny someone's right to choose between those two, I consider them to be in the same class of quality and sensitivity. The wooden key action on the MP11se is the biggest reason I would have preferred to have it, which I definitely think of as being a class 'up' from either the PHA-50 or RHIII. I've played the RHIII on gigs, and while I'd prefer to play a classical show on it, the 'pound-it-out' kind of fusion and R&B gigs I find myself on just wound up being better suited to the PHA-50. Action's a big deal to me, so hence the decision. Also, I can't agree with the statement about quality of other sounds - once you get out of the EP / AP / Pads area on the MP7se, I definitely prefer the Roland - again this is a preference, but this was the secondary decision. If I'm giving up the top preferred wooden action and I'm going into a full stage instrument, what was the best balance of sound selection, action, and function, and for me and my situation, the RD-2000 was the solution at the time.

@rnic74 2 жыл бұрын

big difference in the sound .. the Kawai MP11 sounds amazing

@ChrisP3000x 2 жыл бұрын

There was no comparison of sounds.

@andreasxfjd4141 Жыл бұрын

but which piano (kawai or roland) does better sound?

@MerriamPianos Жыл бұрын

That is down to the subjectivity and preferences of the player. They are both excellent digital pianos though! :)

@anatol1204 4 жыл бұрын

The sould not put so much buttons on the front it's difficult to put the mouse and the pc keyboard I don't understand why the don't get it after so many years VPC IS THE WAY TO GO BUT THEY FORGET TO PUT PITCH BEND..MERCY!!!!

@JozefHollyPiano 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, i must say, you are the best. No one on youtube give more detailed reviews than you! Thank you for your excelent work 🙏🏻 I am a professional pianist and is very hard to find the right stage piano for me. I love the roland pianos... but...i stay with Kawai because i have some trouble with the Roland...1st reason is - fast one note (key) repetition... I have in my house acoustic grand piano to compare it with the roland. The fast one note repetition on the Roland is very bad. Kawai is much beter ... 2nd is the sound. The Roland sound is nice to play at home, but after i was trying the roland with my band (we use inear system), the sound was very bad... I try diferent settings, but the sound of the piano was so unclear. Not only for me, but also for my drummer, bass player and everybody in my band. After some songs i take the Kawai and we are smiling ... I dont understand why the Roland sounds nice at home and for solo playing, but in band and with other instruments, it was soo unclear... Maybe this help somebody who want to buy the Roland to play with band...I was using 10 years ago the Roland RG1 and this piano was nice to me... But now the Kawai is the way for me... One question... is there a way to play some VSTi with VPC1, but not from PC or mac... I need some 100% working solution (hardware unit where i can load the vsti) because i need it for the live concert (performance)

@sgt.sharky9832 2 жыл бұрын

I think I know why your struggling with the sound of the Roland in a band, its something I noticed recently when listening to different reviews on Rolands vs other piano's. When you play an instrument, say like a brass instrument. The player hears something different than his audience because he gets so much more resonance than who he is playing too. Kawai's sound file for me sounds like its from the listeners prospective, the Roland comes from more of the players prospective. That is the reason why I believe the Roland is more geared to a soloist or a piano singer kind of setting. In a band it needs to be background music and its competing for the lead.

@JozefHollyPiano 2 жыл бұрын

@@sgt.sharky9832 I think that you are right…

@sgt.sharky9832 2 жыл бұрын

@@JozefHollyPiano I grew up around music thru church and played Trumpet throughout my youth. My parents when I was younger wanted me to take piano lessons and I bucked against it. Since then I've always wished I would have learned it because of the amount of theory it teaches. I think it would have helped me when it came to adlib stuff and in turn made me a better instrumentalist. I'm older now, have plenty of time on my hands so I started looking for a decent piano that wouldn't offend my ear too much. Anyway, have someone or even yourself and start playing a roland and if you just think about the point of reference for the sound your hearing, it kinda puts you in the middle of it making you the instrumentalist. Then play the same thing on a Korg, Kawai and others and thing about the point of reference and it places it away from you. Your no longer the focal point. Its like playing in a band with a soloist that hasn't learned to be part of the whole. Instead want to be the lead no matter what they are playing. Rolands sound for me is absolutely beautiful which is why I'm probably going to pick up the FP-10 when I can actually find one. Because I have no intention of playing it with a group, its for me to learn on and I like being the lead in that scenario.

@grahamt33 Жыл бұрын

Steer clear of the VPC it gives you nothing extra but takes away all control/sounds options -it does not even offer a better keybed - altho Kawai on its website says it does, but under FAQ says it does NOT - cannot trust this company as a result altho I was close to going for it

@1973asdf Жыл бұрын

V3 sound module. but tbh i dont know if it beats kawai’s sound. MP11SE might be the best option

@JRM---516 3 жыл бұрын

Never heard any of the 'acoustic piano sounds' on the Kawai MP11SE Digital Piano. Did I miss something? Come on, man!!!

@ElectroMac74 4 жыл бұрын

have the roland fp30 this thing had no competition at all, the keys equals quality of 5000$ pianos.

@Gilotopia 4 жыл бұрын

I've noticed the fp-30 sounds good on speakers but odd on line out in KZfaq videos. Is it the same for you?

@Pe6ek 3 жыл бұрын

The PHA-4 action is the worst action ever built.

@user-xy8ec9nw3u 3 жыл бұрын

No good like kawai 11

@dgcmusi 2 жыл бұрын

I have a Swanson TV dinner in the oven for you…..you can use the stand under the Kawai….I like the Kawai much better than the Roland…and I’m someone who has used Roland since the MKB1000

@MerriamPianos 2 жыл бұрын

Haha TV dinners certainly bring back some memories! The Kawai MP11SE is quite the machine and the action is absolutely fantastic! With that said, it is a tough match up because the RD2000 is out of this world too!

@kayaramirez2263 3 жыл бұрын

$2800 piano on a $20 stand

@ernestorodriguez9735 2 ай бұрын

MP are the best in the other hand Rd 700 gx was the best Rd ever made.

@MerriamPianos 2 ай бұрын

The MP series from Kawai is certainly quite impressive! And the RD700 model was a very solid instrument that still has a very fervent fanbase today! :)

@tamirorkoby 4 жыл бұрын

You should comper the rd 2000 to the kawai mp7se. Not to mp11se. Same weight sames sounds same function. And the kawai is better.

@mr.c1989 3 жыл бұрын

The MP11SE is not a good option for comparing to the Rd2000?!!

@tamirorkoby 3 жыл бұрын

@@mr.c1989 less then the mp7se.

@funtastic_2k187 2 жыл бұрын

They have several keyboard cases with rolling wheels…. Heavy over sound any day Trust me, Mp 11 is waaaaaay better

@tommillitello4465 2 жыл бұрын

They both are heavy keyboards. The Roland isnt that much lighter; look at the weights of each. Hammer action boards are all heavy.

@MerriamPianos 2 жыл бұрын

Neither of these pianos are exactly the type of instrument that you can carry under you arm and walk to the gig with, but the extra weight is definitely worth what they offer in terms of tone, touch, and features!

@caitlanedwards9910 4 жыл бұрын

play Spotify

@DihelsonMendonca 4 жыл бұрын

RD2000 is sounding like trash, there´s even a distortion to it. What you have done ??????

@barfy362 4 жыл бұрын

presumably overloaded the inputs of the recording interface

@adriverschoor4975 4 жыл бұрын

Good demo. Although you talk too much and play too little.

@1q2w3e4r5t6zism 4 жыл бұрын

It is the old problem of all Kawais: excellent workmanship and feel, but very bad, musty, muffled piano sounds without any brilliance - as if you had put a heavy felt coat over the piano. Why Kawai won't finally be able to generate at least one single decent piano sound will always remain a mystery to me.

@Nico-rw2tl 2 жыл бұрын

yes, it is for this reason that I took a vpc1... You have to use vst with kawai

@DihelsonMendonca 3 жыл бұрын

*Kawaii MP-11 is double the price of a Roland RD 2000.*

@Marcus-ym2kg 3 жыл бұрын

Those are local prices for you. The Roland is more expensive here (Western-Europe).

@MIGUELANGEL-iy1ez Жыл бұрын

ABURRE, TANTA PALABRERÍA, QUEREMOS ESCUCHAR LOS PIANOS.

@MerriamPianos Жыл бұрын

Thanks for tuning in and sharing your feedback! We include timestamps so viewers can quickly access the sections that interest them most. While some viewers want to merely hear the pianos being demonstrated, many some viewers want to hear an expert's analysis on what a particular piano offers. We try to include both in our review and comparison videos. :)

@MIGUELANGEL-iy1ez Жыл бұрын

AMIGO, HABLA MENOS, QUEREMOS ESCUCHAR LOS PIANOS, ABURRE TANTA PALABRERÍA.

@MerriamPianos Жыл бұрын