I just got the VH-14D to use with my VAD506 and the positional sensing definitely works with the TD-27 module. There's a clear distinction in sound between the center of the hats and farther out on the bow. I also notice the "squeezed hats" sound (or whatever you call it) when you go press the cymbals tightly closed. I haven't played them with the TD-50 to compare, but those features at least do something.

This is amazing work man, so fast to update us fully too!

Hi Justin! Thanks for the info. I got my TD-17KV in May 2022. I'm very happy with it. Have a nice day.

Very impressive, Justin. You are setting the curve in eDrum online news! Thank you.

Thanks buddy! You are truly precious in the edrum community!

Literally bought the TD@27KV2 within a week of seeing this video in October, replacing my TD8 I hadn't played in years ! Thanks so much for your detailed and honest reviews - I love my new kit, it's finally like playing a "proper" kit again, and I've enrolled at Drumeo too. Completely fallen back in love with drumming again. Thanks so much and the Patreon channel is cool too !

Currently trying to decide on an upgrade for my pop punk covers. Love that I found this channel, so helpful 😊👍

I literally just got Roland VAD306 for $1000 less then the upgraded version VAD307 and I don't really care about the upgraded hardware and cymbals. I'm super happy with the drums and I'm glad I bought them while they were still in stock.

Hay Justin, thx for the 8 yrs of videos. FANTASTIC...but i cant find the one that teaches us how to sample our acoustic drums for use with drum modules (TD50). THx Scott. Keep up the super shows!

Your video convinced me to pull the trigger as I was debating the TD27 against the Alesis Strike Pro SE. Hearing the hi-hat had been upgraded did it. I love the drums, but haven't been able to play as I got busy with my business, kids, life etc. I can not wait to get back into the drums once they get here. Thanks for being so quick to share this update from Roland!

Justin, many thanks for this great recap! From all of us out here .. thank you for your hard work and research to share. Kind Regards, Tom Pollock

Great video yet again. It would be nice to see the coaching/metronome functions of these kits.

Great video thanks for including the info on the firmware update. Stoked to see it roll out to the 17 module

awesome, i have a converted ekit with the TD-27 module at home. I also play on the VAD506 at church so I am looking forward to play with the upgrades.

You are the one guy I want my son watching and learning from!!!

Thanks a lot for keeping us updated. Years ago we could only dream on having content like this, we would have to go and surf in message forums and magazines.

Just splurged on the VAD307. I considered the TD27KV2 but could not justify the cost difference considering I will have them just for fun. I used this channel extensively during my research. I was debating between Alesis Strike Pro SE and VAD306 when I noticed the 307 had come out. After reading reviews on how bad the Alesis hi-hats are, and knowing the quality of Roland V-Drums, I went with Roland. I also played the Alesis kit at a local GC and the latency was very apparent as were the issues with the hi-hat. Regardless, thanks for putting out quality information. It was extremely helpful in making my decision.

Cool stuff!

Great video! It’d be interesting to know the digital hi-hat on the TD27 since I was thinking about getting one.

I really didn’t see this coming at all but hey I’ll take it. If I had to choose a favorite though, it’d probably be the TD-27KV2.

I got the 17kv2 thanks to you

I'm in the market for the td27 so now I'll wait for the td27 kv2

Where are the 2.0 Update for the td27 module? I can not find it.. thanks for this nive video!😘 I love your Vids!

Thanks for the updates Justin. Question … will these td17 kvx2 new module upgrades be downloadable to my older td 17 kv module I purchased 3 years ago?

I just got the VAD503 for a great price (3.2k) thanks to the new models rolling out. If I decide that I want the digital hi hat afterwards, after selling the VH-10 included that'll still be a good 500 bucks less in total compared to the updated set. So overall, all I'm missing out on is the new hardware but I honestly couldn't care less. Very glad that they came out with this refresh right before I wanted to get a new kit!

Nice work as always! Crazy thought: do you think this kind-of-out-of-the-blue launch has anything to do with the fairly unanimous positive response to Simmon's new Titan 50? I know that particular drumset doesn't compete with most of the higher tiers listed here. But still, sounds like Simmons hit as close to a home run as they've had in a while. Roland had to taken notice there, Ya think? 🤷‍♀

Wow !!! I just got the TD 27 module a month ago and I have the TD-17kvx. This is good news, but I'm gonna want what ever is coming out next...lol I only have the Roland digital snare so far, so I hope the HI-Hats and Ride come down in price because of this. Yes dude !!! Please let us know if the Digital Hi-hats are fully functional for the 27. I didn't hear anything to the contrary about that. Hmmmm.... Anywho...lol Appreciate everything you do !!!! Thanks !!!!! :-)

Well, i bought the VAD506 right before summer and i got it for a decent price. This new 507 is almost exactly 1000$ more, which is more than the cost of the hi hat, plus whatever i will get for the VH10 if i do decide to upgrade it, and sell it. It also got the VAD700 series stands though which are quite a bit nicer but not essential. Overall i think it's a very good update but it unfortunately comes with a steep price increase. So, luckily for me, i guess, i don't feel left out. I'll still be at a substantial saving even if i upgrade to the digital hi hat. And I'll happily take the module update off course.

Funny that u talked about edrum center cuz yesterday I saw on their channel “Td17kvx2 play samples” and I was just like “the fucking WHAT”

Thanks for your hard work man. Cheers from a drummy in Oklahoma.

Damn, may need to look into 27kv gen 2!

Been doing research on edrums the past few days and your channel has been super helpful. I was really close to pulling the trigger on the kvx v1 but and now I'm finding out there is a v2. Do you think the upgrades are worth the extra $600? I'm a total noob when it comes to drums btw

Nothing beats my td50X

Another great video drop Justin! Looking for some advice please, anyone... I would love a TD27 but its over $5k in Australia and hard to justify so I'm also looking at a used TD30 (~3K AUD), is it still a good choice or should I just hold out for the TD27 later on? Thanks

I used to hate electronic drums. Then I got a set. Thanks for the content!

What about the addition of Bluetooth capability to the 27 module. That seems significant.

Anythoughts on getting a discounted VAD306 right now vs waiting to get the VAD307 when it's available?

I for one am looking forward to that v2 update. what the heck is #3standard? Standard what!

just ordered my 504!

I was just about to buy the td17 kvx until they released this.😅

Magnificent

What are the swells/rolls like on the upgraded cymbals? Are they more responsive than the previous generation? Do they still sound like a bunch of individual strikes? This has been the biggest sticking point for me.

Is the 2.0 upgrade available now? I’m gonna have to look into this.

Maybe, just maybe. Roland is flushing out their last models and will launch the edrums that DW made after they acquired them and brand them under roland name.

Please do a video for the Roland td 27kv 2 !!!

Hi Justin, hijacking this to ask you a question. Did you ever do a video on the V-Tour Series TD-6KX? I'm considering getting one at the moment, but there is very little info to be found except Rolands own marketing

Wait, so did you say I could update my td-27 module and get more sounds etc? What do I do plug in a usb cable and go to the Roland page?

does the new 17 kv have the same easy to navigate module interface like the old one that worked well for blind users?

Ayyyyyy this is awesome. I've been rocking my TD-27 for a couple years now, but I don't really know much about upgrading gear on E-Kits. If I just purchased the new cymbals coming out on the KV2, would they be functional on the current module ?

I'm very curious if Roland and DW will be making some collab for a new product. I'm more curious on DW's design input and, who knows, maybe some DW hardware on Roland's next iteration of VADs. Imagine a VAD 806 (?) with DW or PDP Concept Maple styled lugs? Probably some DW inspired finishes?... For now, I think their VAD refresh, with those subtle changes, looks cooler. Another thing they could've done was add more wrap colors to the shells.

Even tho I got the old Td-17 kvx module will I be able to download the new kvx2 as a software update directly or do I have to get a whole new module with the new version?

Hi Justin i have a question. I have Roland td17 drums And my kick drum mesh pad has a wrinkle above the drum patch, how can i fix this

I KNEW THIS WAS THE REASON FOR THAT 300 DROP IN THE TD17KVX

What are your thoughts on buying the td27kv2? I'm looking to buy an edrum kit in the next few weeks.

What’s their cloud ? Can you access with previous kits ? I have the td 17kvx

What kit is being played from time mark 6:01-6:10? Thanks!

Just wondering, when Roland offers the upgrades to the modules, pushing them to V-2, will that be a paid or free upgrade?

Do you know If Roland is going to release New symbols so I can buy them separately and add them onto my TD27KV I know that digital high hats are already selling separately but I need to know on those new symbols

I just got the TD-17KVX new a month and a half ago and negotiated to get it for $1,600 with 15% off all the other items I purchased at the same time. The upgraded cymbals definitely seem nice but not sure if I would've paid an extra $500 for them (looks like that's the price of the KVX2)

How likely can it be that they’ll show a new version of the td-27 this coming year ? Makes me feel like they’re trying to flush out their inventory because something newer is coming. What do you guys think ?

I found a YAMAHA DTX522K 5-PIECE ELECTRONIC DRUM SET on sale for $577.77. It's a demo/clearance set from a major retailer. Yay or Nay?

Which has the best feel like a real one I’ve played acoustic at unni jazz rock funk

These aren’t very big changes so I don’t really care that much but its nice to have a 14” ride and get the Vh14 already with the td27 and vad 500 line

Hey Justin are the tom pads on the TD27KV (PDX-100) different than those on the flagship TD50KV (PD-108-BC) performance wise for example do they have positional sensing or are the differences mainly just size and cosmetic? Also do you think the TD-27KV2 is the best bang for the buck now?

But roland said they're updating the td27 module so I imagine they're gonna fix the hi hats

I'm looking for advice regarding a drum set I'm saving up for. I've been drumming for about 4 years, starting on a NUX DM-4 and have since upgraded to the TD-25KV. I love how my current drum set performs, but I'm at the point where I really want an acoustic looking drum set. Problem is I live in Australia, so there aren't any conversion companies in my country like Jobeky, Drum-Tec or Field, and ordering from them gets a lot more complicated if something breaks on me since they're overseas. I don't trust myself to build something myself. Roland's VAD series are a little out of budget and I personally don't like how you can't change the shell wraps. If I'm paying eight grand for a drum set, I'd like to customise how it looks rather than just a boring mat black look. That and the thing costs $8,000 in Australia, not counting the extra Floor Tom and Crash Cymbal I'd want to add to it. I've considered getting an actual acoustic drum set but still need the convenience of easily recording and something that isn't as loud. I'm currently saving up for the Alesis Strike Pro SE since it's the closest to what I'm looking for being sold in my country that's within my budget. Love the acoustic sizes, the second floor Tom and third Crash cymbal. Just wish the pads were proper acoustic shells rather than half shells. Does anyone have any suggestions for potential solutions I might not have considered regarding an acoustic looking drum set? Sound is not a concern for me since I have Superior Drummer 3.

NICE 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘

Hurts when you have the td17kv when the kv2 comes out. LITLLE bit of a kick in the face

has Roland kept they're word regarding v2 update for all module users?

So is the extra €1200 worth for VAD507 over the VAD506? The VAD507 is €5333 in Europe and the VAD506 of€4100

Ah yes finally. Good thing I waited

should have talked about the price of last gen vs new gen. is it priced the same, or is there a big jump in price?

I use 2 TD-27’s and have 3 CY-16T’s, 2 CY-13RC’s, a CY-12, VH-10, the digital CY-18 ride, and then an ATV 18” ride, and lastly a pair of ATV 14” Hi-hats. Hence the 2 TD-27 modules. I also run Superior Drummer 3 but I don’t always use it because I love some of the sounds that I get from the TD-27’s. By the way, every single e-cymbal, Roland digital snare, and Jobeky trigger purchases were made after I had gathered information from YOUR CHANNEL! 😂😂😂 Roland and ATV should pay you.😂 My kit is a beast. I built it after watching tons of your vids to gain the knowledge that was necessary to create it and honestly, the info you provided helped me not waste too much money buying bad gear. Thanks Justin!

Great video as always! How do you feel about the new digital hats vs the vh10? Worth an extra $1000 for a hobby drummer that doesn't perform? 27kv gen 1 on sale for 2699 with a free $225 throne, or gen 2 for 3499. The new hats look great but I'd be really pissed if I spend that much for a refresh just to have the next model come out soon.

i was literally gonna buy the td 27 kv in november, and now you are telling me i will get the hihats aswell????? holy fuck this is is awesome big upgrade from my current broken alesis surge lmfao

yay! the used market prices should reflect this as certain players upgrade lol

Will the TD27 v2 software be available for the existing td kit?

Lol I literally just bought my TD-17KVX yesterday and am picking it up in 2 days..... Bought the KVX over the KV for the better cymbals but not I could've just bought the TD-17KV2...

I’m waiting to upgrade my td17 to the best flagship edrum there is. Do you really think they won’t do the td-60 or whatever for another two years? The td50 is good but seems lacking.

Td 17 kvx is 1500. Worth pulling the trigger, or do I need gen 2?

Anyone like the tdkv50?

Thanks for your content. Do you know how to fix a bricked TD-17KVX lol

Is the 2.0 update for the td27 available now?

More gear that’s going to be perpetually out of stock. Yay for chip shortages! 😂 Thanks, Justin. I always appreciate your videos. Take care! 😃👍

I was hoping for td-17 firmware update. I was hoping Roland would increase the 17’s USB audio out from 2 channel L/R up to 8/10 channels of audio over usb like original version of TD-50 firmware. Td-27 has 28 channel audio over usb and td/50x has 32 channels. I love my td-17 however Often find myself wishing I had bought TM-6 pro last year on Black Friday or when S.W had them for same price 599$ brand new!!!!! TM-6’s 6 direct outs, 500 brand new one shot samples, easy/fast sound editing controls, individual inputs(no cable snake) TM-6 con’s: only 6 dual trigger inputs, no 3 zone ride support. I would like to upgrade to td-27 module however w/ Roland just dropping the new SPD-pro picking that up my main priority. Roland made the strike multipad Alesis could/should have made.

U get to it! Make it straight and I don’t foook around thank you

Don't get it. Why is the Roland TD-17KVX2 like 300 bucks more expensive than the regular TD-17KVX?

Hmmm I was so sure I was going to go Yamaha DTX8 but that Roland td27 V2 might be worth the extra

How long before the TDW-60?

I'm honestly a little salty about the td-27kv2 since I bought my 27kv last year and if I wanted to simply upgrade my cymbals and get a digital hi hat I'd have to shell out probably over 1k. Meanwhile the entire kit is only 500 bucks more, idk its obviously a way better kit just wish I had a crystal ball so I could have been patient and waited. On the other hand im very much looking forward to the firmware updates they seem pretty massive, even tho I mainly use a VST I am looking forward to tinkering with the module sounds again and ill give the roland cloud a shot I guess lol.

time to get some old shit on sale!!!

The music industrie is amazingly slow in making progress. They have those Edrums since the 90's. Roland hasn't even bluetooth yet on their high end drums. Waiting for years now to have a eDrum kit wich looks like a real one, has good sounds on it out of the box, has normal triggering, has all outputs seperately for front of house and is still affordable. The Thomann millenium mps 1000 is a good start, but the sounds there are terrible. Now with this upgrades from Roland is it clear, that we will have to wait some more years and hope they do it finally right. Such a pain in the a...! Sorry for my complaining. But it had to be said😄 have a nice day🤘🏻

When we say cymbals are "lighter and thinner" - what does that mean for noise outside your headphones (I dont use an amp) - would lighter and thinner mean less of that horrible "thock thock thock" noise for the rest of the family??

best news, my 4 year old drum brain is gonna get an update

Do you think Millenium Drums are any good?

Oh shit, there goes my money 💸

Thanks Justin for the update. Roland being a keyboard manufacturer, it's hard to imagine they would some day move from plastic kid's drum kits to full-size electronic drum sets with metal cymbals. The technology is already there, but they seem to be happy benefiting more from cheap plastics.

Another thing, the VAD506 has seen a significant 10ish% price decrease in the EU, with the launch of the 507. Overall i don't think the 507's extra 1500ish$ is worth it when you can get the digital hi hat yourself and save a whole lot of money for almost the exact same experience (minus the hardware upgrades). So I'd personally go for that one even today.

👍🏻

Put an emerge Pearl kick on a Roland kit Makes it 100 times better For around 400 bucks