Roland SH-4d Review: The multi-engine synth battle heats up! // Full SH4d tutorial

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TIMELINE:
0:00 Intro
1:20 vs ZEN-Core
5:25 Overview
10:30 Mixer view
11:25 Connectivity
12:00 SH-4d
14:40 SH-3D
15:45 Sync
17:10 SH/JUNO
17:55 Cross FM
20:30 Ring
22:20 Wavetable
23:40 Chord
25:20 Drawing
26:40 PCM
28:10 Filter
29:35 Env/LFO
31:30 Effects
35:35 Rhythm
38:55 Mod matrix
41:20 Arpeggiator
42:50 Visual arp
45:40 Sequencing
48:45 Automation
49:40 Live rec
51:15 D-Motion
52:05 TIPS & TRICKS
55:10 Pros & cons
58:05 Outro
58:25 Factory songs
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@sunnyschramm9650
@sunnyschramm9650 Жыл бұрын
the best feature is: NO GREEN ANYMORE on the panel/case! 🥳
@chainsrad6354
@chainsrad6354 Жыл бұрын
I have actively avoided Roland gear over the last few years because of the green.
@bartosz_xenon
@bartosz_xenon Жыл бұрын
lol I loved the toxic green color scheme
@Jordanchicity23
@Jordanchicity23 Жыл бұрын
@@bartosz_xenon me too
@astrarivm
@astrarivm Жыл бұрын
I love their green to death
@Old_Man_Jay
@Old_Man_Jay Жыл бұрын
I actually liked the green
@zebmars8944
@zebmars8944 Жыл бұрын
Six Roland SH-4d Reviews dropping at the same time and this channel is the obvious starting point.
@entropybentwhistle
@entropybentwhistle Жыл бұрын
I check out True Cuckoo too to find out if it can make more esoteric noises.
@music-maker2505
@music-maker2505 Жыл бұрын
Agreed 👍🏼 Loopops honest and straightforward breakdown/reviews can make or break new units.. Like politics, KZfaq can become a dirty business. here’s hoping Mr. Loopop :) continues to keep it real ☕️🎹🔉🎵🎶
@straighttalk2069
@straighttalk2069 Жыл бұрын
This channel for all the specs and details. Sonicstate for musical demos.
@summerlaverdure
@summerlaverdure Жыл бұрын
​​@@entropybentwhistle I would check out cuckoo but they did demo songs for it, not sure if that's going to impart bias or not, same for Alex ball and red means recording who also have songs in it
@SonicVibe
@SonicVibe Жыл бұрын
@@entropybentwhistle he made it sound so different then anybody he is such a unique music master
@GirlfightClub
@GirlfightClub Жыл бұрын
Wow! They discovered actual lcd screens larger than an inch! 😱
@biggrime
@biggrime Жыл бұрын
😆 🤣
@lundsweden
@lundsweden Жыл бұрын
Duh-duh-da-da-da-duh, Duh-duh-da-da-da-duh
@astrarivm
@astrarivm Жыл бұрын
Ahahahahaaha
@mdjey2
@mdjey2 Жыл бұрын
Not the first time. Many Rolands synthesizers have larger LCD screens than 2,54cm.
@synthfreak291
@synthfreak291 Жыл бұрын
Still they forgot to add individual outputs to a multitimbral synth :(
@unitrobe0
@unitrobe0 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate how you dive right in showing all the complicated menus and settings so I instantly stop thinking I will buy tthis and enjoy your video of mastering the thing like I never will or even atempt to. I knew within 4 minutes this thing isn't for me.
@7177YT
@7177YT Жыл бұрын
Finally more multitimbral polysynths. I don't get why they don't release more machines like this.
@Jason75913
@Jason75913 Жыл бұрын
Multitimbral polysynths are Korg's and Roland's bread and butter (usually with a lot more menu-diving than shown here). Few others will also do it, understandably. Most folks only want one timbre at a time, or mix different mono-timbral synths for whatever they are doing. This looks like a JD-Xi successor, if with reduced polyphony in exchange for radically way more capability.
@thegreatsiberianitch
@thegreatsiberianitch Жыл бұрын
They gotta make money
@femto859
@femto859 Жыл бұрын
​@@Jason75913 look up the Sh32 then you know which one it was modeled after XD
@sooperheep
@sooperheep Жыл бұрын
@@femto859 this is waaayyyyy better than the sh32
@strangersun7721
@strangersun7721 Жыл бұрын
Multitimbrality at this price point is pretty unique. I can think of the Blofeld, but not much else. You have to play a lot more for a Korg with that feature as far as I know. Someone certainly knows more than me.
@motherfuckerlimited1019
@motherfuckerlimited1019 Жыл бұрын
This is probably going to be their best product in a while, a no-nonsense reboot of their groovebox line that builds where the MCs left off.
@ktreier
@ktreier Жыл бұрын
How does it build on the MC-707?
@strangersun7721
@strangersun7721 Жыл бұрын
​​@@ktreier yeah I'd say the 707 is capable of a lot more if you're willing to put up with its quirks. And the number of outputs on this device is kind of a shame.
@damiensimper
@damiensimper Жыл бұрын
I'd agree, the 707 synth had way to much menu diving for my liking, sold it on, but this 'desktop synth' style with multi-timbral/parts and drum track looks way more instrumental and explorative as both an instrument and groovebox.
@Beastmode-hk3fj
@Beastmode-hk3fj Жыл бұрын
This has nothing to do with Roland's grooveboxes.
@thedeepblueskys
@thedeepblueskys Жыл бұрын
@@Beastmode-hk3fj that’s how I feel. It’s definitely it’s own thing. I’m looking forward to future firmware updates and add ons.
@milosmilosmilos
@milosmilosmilos Жыл бұрын
The midi information coming out of the box towards the end... very nice touch mister loopop!
@ChumpyDumps
@ChumpyDumps Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see this thing on a future bad gear episode
@superultrathanksmom3845
@superultrathanksmom3845 Жыл бұрын
YEap lol
@patricklaureys9238
@patricklaureys9238 Жыл бұрын
🤣 See you next time!
@drindy5166
@drindy5166 Жыл бұрын
👊🤣👍
@geofff6671
@geofff6671 Жыл бұрын
It’s ticking all the boxes.
@drindy5166
@drindy5166 Жыл бұрын
@@geofff6671 lol... now that is on point!! 👊🤣👍
@_OopsieDaisies
@_OopsieDaisies Жыл бұрын
this seems really exciting! right before these were announced i was planning on buying a circuit tracks. my brother works at a music shop that is a roland dealer so he suggested i wait to check this out. im a relative newbie to synths and making music on my own without using a daw and currently only have a reface dx and an old drum machine. the sh-4d definitely is a little more daunting when it comes to learning how to use it but i think this will serve me much longer.
@strangersun7721
@strangersun7721 Жыл бұрын
This is a great synth, but the sequencer and "groovebox" aspects aren't as deep, fast, or fun to use as the Circuit Tracks. I love them both.
@jeramiahrossnz
@jeramiahrossnz Жыл бұрын
I just had my MC-505 upgraded, blue LED screen, new faders and knobs, cleaned up, and brand new again, few things, this box could totally be your 3 piece band, drums, bass, keys, build songs from the foundation of that for sonic cohesion, much like older arranger workstation keyboards/systems, but with more electronic type styles, the Zencore emulation is pretty close the real Roland synths of the 80s, or feels/sounds good enough to be mistaken for that (I have a few retro Roland things now, (Juno, SC-880, MC505, stage pianos etc along with Roland Cloud, Zenbeats on the tablet) ironically, instead of Zencore, it's more like Zenbox, that's what it would end up being, headphones on, sitting on the couch or somewhere nice in the sun creating chill electronic synth-based music to build songs from. Its nice to see Roland return to form with this machine, I didn't connect to the new groove boxes, felt like something was missing, but this makes up for it. Great review as always, and 10 points for the overlay holographic style frequency display floating above most of your videos. A nice touch I thought. Cheers, J (edit, fixed typos, almost did a TLDR)
@audiowanderer
@audiowanderer Жыл бұрын
At last a synth released on the 21st century with a decent poliphony (60 voices)
@VIRALBEATS360
@VIRALBEATS360 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great demo/review! Love the graphics.
@ZAYAZOfficial
@ZAYAZOfficial Жыл бұрын
You are the authority on everything synth. Hands down bro.
@richardsmith1290
@richardsmith1290 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your in depth sonic look into this fun and exciting machine.
@ricktheexplorer
@ricktheexplorer Жыл бұрын
Wow so many new cool lines of synthesizers. I want to ingest all the information on this one that I can. Very Impressed!
@akdm82
@akdm82 Жыл бұрын
I’d love that screen on my VerseLab MV-1 and MC-101 for sure
@strangersun7721
@strangersun7721 Жыл бұрын
Seems like a pretty good value in an age of everything going bananas with pricing. Thanks for the video!
@synthseeker
@synthseeker Жыл бұрын
Very helpful details overall, thanks!
@ChristopherOrth
@ChristopherOrth Жыл бұрын
I do love how they visualize the chord inversions!
@miklosmesterhazy2639
@miklosmesterhazy2639 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your very clear and down to earth reviews. If somebody wants in depth info about any synth, yours is the recommended one. Subscribed.
@samprock
@samprock Жыл бұрын
It’s Verselab dressed in synth! I sold MV-1 because it did not have ^^^these^^^ intuitive controls to scroll/manage engines and hands-on synth playing. I like batteries option for travel and audio/midi inputs to connect OP-Z or X-Keys for small portable dawless. It’s a less-boring groovebox overall, nice. Thanks Loopop to deep dive thru the device ideas in an hour along with good music and entertainment!
@samprock
@samprock Жыл бұрын
Fat is interesting! Gosh I love one stop scroll or knob twist to change preset W/O a need to scroll AND press again!
@_cocoalabs
@_cocoalabs Жыл бұрын
I picked this up recently and love it. Some downsides: You can't do multitrack audio nor midi over USB unless you have a Mac or PC on the other side.. Additionally it seems (at least with Logic Pro/ iPad and Mac) if you try to send midi to it the firmware has a meltdown.
@strangersun7721
@strangersun7721 Жыл бұрын
That's a shame since the smaller, and far cheaper Roland S1 has class compliant audio. I would hope they add it in a firmware update.
@KarateWerewolf
@KarateWerewolf 5 ай бұрын
It does midi over USB fine with my mpc.
@sub-jec-tiv
@sub-jec-tiv Жыл бұрын
So surprised the display isn’t their usual single-line 8-character segment display from 1986.
@Jason75913
@Jason75913 Жыл бұрын
You'd be surprised how many multi-line screens they've made since the '80s. But too many single line screens as well.
@djohnson2449
@djohnson2449 Жыл бұрын
Thorough review! Thank you.
@Stopinvadingmyhardware
@Stopinvadingmyhardware 5 ай бұрын
This is the best thing I have seen from Roland in a while.
@simonc8265
@simonc8265 Жыл бұрын
I always come back to your vids..... the more i get it, the more i see in your vids....i took a punt on the 4d and really glad that I did. its a perfect on the go companion. took it to synth night at the pub and hooked it up to the huge PA system and..... went for the mysterioso (4d) preset. Boom ! this is lot more accessible than the mc707, got a bit more than the trs8 and although zencore light.... its more than enough.....silky smooth, with subtle harmonics even when turned up to 11 on a PA system. its definitely a bit deeper than it seems. thanks again.
@Mclennnan
@Mclennnan Жыл бұрын
This is where I come to learn the shizzle. The one of only 2 youtubers I actually listen to when it comes to all things synths. XLNT chennel bro!
@brandonaikin5445
@brandonaikin5445 Жыл бұрын
This just came in the mail today. Best digital synth / sequencer under $1000 I've ever owned. Wow.
@sooperheep
@sooperheep Жыл бұрын
Awesome, I just ordered one, very excited.
@SonicVibe
@SonicVibe Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear ordering this
@avjake
@avjake Жыл бұрын
Man oh man. The designers that put these things together. Megakudos for providing such an in-depth review.
@sooperheep
@sooperheep Жыл бұрын
seriously! and yet people still bitch without understanding whats going on
@mad_bad_cat
@mad_bad_cat Жыл бұрын
Roland and loopop just when I was about to sleep. I'll just be late tomorrow.
@Lo-fi_Hi-brow
@Lo-fi_Hi-brow Жыл бұрын
My Digitakt/Digitone combo has been a nearly never-ending antidote for G.A.S. New gear is always tempting, but space, money, and *time* are limited resources, and Elektron checks almost all of my boxes. I can make any sound imaginable. Although this Roland box looks more like something that I'd be interested in than anything else I've seen from them...my DT/DN can do it all with better build quality, the greatest sequencer ever, a smaller footprint, and a workflow that I'm extremely familiar with. I'm not sure how anyone has time to become fluent with multiple workflows on a dozen devices in the first place (like the tabletops filled with gear that seem so common)-let alone time to actually make music. But, cheers to Roland for not making yet another baby-fingered boutique again...and again...and again.
@sinewaymusic
@sinewaymusic Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you're talking to yourself to tame the GAS. 😂 (If so, I can relate.)
@GuitarsAndSynths
@GuitarsAndSynths Жыл бұрын
love my Digitone and Analog Heat combo. Great portable solution. Rytm is my favorite groove box though since can finger drum and still have bass and drum going. Virus does a lot as well with 16 multi timbral parts and best arpeggiator.
@Doyourememberlove
@Doyourememberlove Жыл бұрын
Thought for a minute about swapping the Digitone for this, but that box is hard to beat. Now my Jx08 will for sure go. This and the digitakt are surely to get along well.
@kodafox
@kodafox Жыл бұрын
My only reservation considering the Elektron synths was the low polyphony. I want to be able to play with both hands and a sustain pedal. That's one thing I really appreciate about Roland. Most of their recent gear is highly polyphonic. But other than that the Elektron kit looks amazing and I'm kinda jealous.
@unkeneke
@unkeneke Жыл бұрын
@@GuitarsAndSynths Nice I got the same combo except a SP404MK2 for fingerdrumming, and it is good to keep the buying impulses down...... and I still want a Syntakt damit. The Rytm MK2 is also very cool but also big and expensive, deciding on a good drum machine has been difficult and now this SH-4d, too many interesting options
@regplasma7906
@regplasma7906 Жыл бұрын
A few sometimes come close ,but you are the best .Another great demo.
@hovermotion
@hovermotion Жыл бұрын
Superb video as uasual, this looks amazing reminds me of a baby TR8-S {LOVE THE BUILT IN PONG}
@erkydi
@erkydi Жыл бұрын
Nice vid! just realized u didnt do any videos on the sequential pro 3, sad because i just got mine and ur the first channel i came to look for info xD
@joelcarloaymat
@joelcarloaymat Жыл бұрын
It's like a modern SH-32. A lot of people never got along with it but I loved that little desktop synth. I could see myself picking this up, it looks so much fun.
@Ulvens
@Ulvens Жыл бұрын
Finally someone seeing the same thing I saw. I loved that thing. The only bad thing was the inability to save presets.
@Patriotic_Eagle1995
@Patriotic_Eagle1995 Жыл бұрын
​@@vjfxtheory and less than half the voice count
@gokugoma3258
@gokugoma3258 Жыл бұрын
@@vjfxtheory it did have a sequencer
@gokugoma3258
@gokugoma3258 Жыл бұрын
i loved my sh-32
@dankeplace
@dankeplace Жыл бұрын
@@Patriotic_Eagle1995 1/3 of the price but less than 1/2 the voice count, that would mean you're still in front yes? So if you buy 2, you have the same amount, maybe 8 voices less, 2 drum parts, 8 synth parts and still 33% cheaper than the Xm?
@christianburgos2736
@christianburgos2736 Жыл бұрын
58:30 it's sounds like a Fruity loops 3.5 but hardware and 20 years late...
@theclutch
@theclutch Жыл бұрын
Oh man, saw this last night and the first thing I thought was that finally they were launching a desktop synth that included their iArpeggiator. But no dice I would have preordered instantly!
@user-sx2iw2hq3l
@user-sx2iw2hq3l Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. Where was the Roland company before? This is exactly what I need to start my hardware setup
@mastaboog749
@mastaboog749 10 ай бұрын
I just ordered one of these after watching your video. Honestly think it will be a great conpanion for my mpc live 2. Both got batteries and arent too big. I can hook a keystep into it
@matthiaswurm
@matthiaswurm Жыл бұрын
what a mighty instrument! Very impressive!
@cbfrider
@cbfrider Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the few cuts in the video. This allows me to really (personally) focus on your explanations and the desktop, which also gives me a great learning experience. It's such a nice contrast to other people's videos and I really enjoy it. Furthermore, your explanation leaves me satisfied and without further questions in a completeness that I cannot find anywhere else. So, thank you for all the effort that obviously goes into your videos.
@Ksrwilhelm
@Ksrwilhelm Жыл бұрын
Yeah it really needs a song mode. It blow my mind that my Yamaha RM1x from '93 is a billion times better hardware sequencer than anything released nowadays, at least from what I've seen.
@coolworld316
@coolworld316 Жыл бұрын
Those demos at the end are killer
@_DrumsArt
@_DrumsArt 8 ай бұрын
I love this synth engine machine. I have two things I find happening, one is not bad at all. Even advantageous that it works the way it does. When you have a synth channel part you're working on, the midi implementation stays to the one selected in the menu at the time from settings. It doesn't switch the active lane in use on a midi keyboard. So, to that affect, if you have auditioned a part for the one selected in settings, you can play it. Even while on other synth track lanes in tandem without interupting what part you're working on independently. There is no face button way to swap active synth midi channel, only in menu settings. The other take away, while live improvising parts for performance. If I want to record synth parts, I don't want to hit record, and automatically start playing back what I have already recorded. I'm having to clear sections I created for patterns to record a new pattern, which should be able to record 5 sections, the synth lanes, and the rhythm section independently. If I have my mixer going, and multiple synths playing chords, and arps. I don't wish to have a new synth layer recording get jarred by triggering the drum pattern I was saving for later suddenly. This might be a usb over midi messages error tbh, this occured only since running it via AIRA usb from the MX-1. I use the master clock dial from the MX-1 to control the GAIA 2, and SH-4d. While leaving the Tr-8S to it's own clock.
@aceboo7541
@aceboo7541 Жыл бұрын
Nice one roland, seems good idea
@polarxta2833
@polarxta2833 Жыл бұрын
Yay - just picked one up today - first customer in Australia I reckon :)
@payt01
@payt01 Жыл бұрын
Nice synth in typical Roland fashion where they repackage previous tech in a different form factor and with a few additional/different bells and whistles. Between the System 8 and the JD-XAa i think I've got most oft his covered though.
@gossamyr
@gossamyr Жыл бұрын
I was totally thinking diverse repackaging too a la (mc505-mc307-D2), I'll deal in on this one as I missed the sys8, didn't think they discon it so soon, haha
@Jason75913
@Jason75913 Жыл бұрын
JD-Xa? The basically watered down FA-06 with a crummy analogue synth shoe-horned in with a price hike?
@vaspers
@vaspers Жыл бұрын
Seems like an update of the Malekko Manther concept, which was based on Roland SH-101 synth. Fantastic video. Your intro is smart by letting us hear the synth and a concise overview of what makes it special. I plan on getting this for sure. Thanks for another wonderful demo/review video Loopop!
@GTChris
@GTChris Жыл бұрын
Oh Roland, I want to love your gear so much.
@joshriptide4182
@joshriptide4182 10 ай бұрын
This tutorial is awesome. Got this machine a couple of months ago, but I was only able to turn it on yesterday the first time. Very informative but the only thing is...in the one hour video, not one mention, where you can change the tempo...
@peterkadarmusic9728
@peterkadarmusic9728 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I have two questions. 1) Are you able to set the 4 parts to the same midi channel and set key ranges for live use? 2) Is it easy to call up these 4 (or 5) part combinations for live?
@loopop
@loopop Жыл бұрын
1. yes you can set them to the same channel but no you can't make splits. 2. It's in the master settings so there's no recall of that - so, you need some sort of MIDI keyboard that can do that for you
@peterkadarmusic9728
@peterkadarmusic9728 Жыл бұрын
@@loopop Thank you for the quick reply!
@music-maker2505
@music-maker2505 Жыл бұрын
Another down to earth review.. It’s interesting, having followed Loopop for many years now, you can tell when he is genuinely impressed by a new unit (whatever it might be) Not so much here 😏 Please continue to keep it real and honest ☕️🎹🔉🎵🎶
@visible7044
@visible7044 Жыл бұрын
weird because this a really impressive piece of great and a great step in the right direction from roland.
@yoppoyo
@yoppoyo Жыл бұрын
Hey! Thank you for this review! Maybe I missed it, but does it send out the 4 parts over seperate audio channels over USB, as I would expect from Roland? Would love to hear your own music with this instrument. Kind regards, Alex.
@loopop
@loopop Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes, it sends out USB audio on 5 separate stereo channels and one mix channel. Indeed unfortunately due to time constraints and scope of this video I prioritized the review over making music I felt worth sharing, thanks for asking.
@arlandajim
@arlandajim Жыл бұрын
great video. Thank you
@milanwulf
@milanwulf Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review! One question: Is it possible to cue (pre-listen) the different parts via the headphone output separately from the main output, like on the MC-707? And if not, do you think there is a chance to add this in a software update? That would be great for live jams!
@loopop
@loopop Жыл бұрын
Thanks and no I don't thinks that's possible
@0e0
@0e0 Жыл бұрын
best roland design iteration of this stuff in a while
@hfugmann
@hfugmann Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this really great demo 👍🏻 Does the SH-4D support transpose via midi from a external keyboard on a synth sequence, for example a bass line?
@loopop
@loopop Жыл бұрын
Thanks - no it doesn’t to my knowledge
@RobertSaintJohn
@RobertSaintJohn Жыл бұрын
Definite buy for me. Certainly some crossover to how I use the JD-Xi and Jupiter XM, but I can see dozens of ways that this will play very nicely with the X and Xm. Happy to see the many lessons of Jupiter firmware 1.0 - 3.0 applied to this out of the box.
@avace917
@avace917 Жыл бұрын
So you plan to add this onto the XM. I've had my eye on that for a while. I'm planning on grabbing that, this and the MPC Live 2
@artephank
@artephank Жыл бұрын
So you are planning to buy third same synth?
@avace917
@avace917 Жыл бұрын
@@artephank I saw a Sonic State demo where the Roland rep said this is not Zencore or ACB. This is something different
@RobertSaintJohn
@RobertSaintJohn Жыл бұрын
@@artephank yes, but only to piss you off 😄
@artephank
@artephank Жыл бұрын
@@avace917 yeah, those roland reps;) not same but close enough imho. Don’t see the point of this synth existing really. But it is just me. So many synth out there, what’s the point of another zencorish mini syth? Idk
@SRDhain
@SRDhain Жыл бұрын
Interesting. It looks like they've taken the core (pardon the pun) of the Jupiter xm / jupiter x (including the 5 parts, but minus the i arpeggiator mode)& added a few things (visual sequencer, motion sensor) and simplified the sound engine parameters. If the price is right (500 pounds or thereabouts) and the visual sequencer outputs midi and can keep.running without being on screen (currently it can't), then it'll hopefully sell well.
@beak_on_bong
@beak_on_bong Жыл бұрын
This thing looks sick as hell
@RuiGon1
@RuiGon1 Жыл бұрын
It's really a shame it doesn't have a song or chain function. I like the synth, but I think I'll wait for the next firmware. Thanks for the review.
@m1nnefr3d
@m1nnefr3d Жыл бұрын
Thanks, mate. Great introduction again 👍 Switched my screen off for watching the rest of the video, however. The Modal Craft Gen 1's design was arguably awful, but this box's (lack of) aesthetics come quite close😵 Aurally it's an entirely different story, though 😍
@victorroberts4637
@victorroberts4637 Жыл бұрын
Very Cool! That Fat implementation is neat! Never thought of having 2 cycles per wave and then recalculating to one cycle. Wonder if they will add more models, not sure how much the RingMod one will get used. Wish the PCM model had an ENV per sample part, could get some cool additive sounds with 16 waveforms :) Do you know if the motion/automation resolution is quantised to the steps?
@loopop
@loopop Жыл бұрын
yes, all sequencing is quantized to steps, there's no micro timing (though there is shuffle)
@GeorgeLocke
@GeorgeLocke Жыл бұрын
The "fat" control is effectively phase distortion.
@theadman95
@theadman95 Жыл бұрын
Great review! What is the synth/controller that you are using to the right of the Roland? Do you like it? Thanks!
@loopop
@loopop Жыл бұрын
Thanks! It's the keystep 37 and yes I do like it
@ndguardian
@ndguardian Жыл бұрын
I just got one of these to use as a synth module with my Maschine+. It works phenomenally for the job. Just need to find out if there is a way to export multitrack audio into the Maschine itself or if I will need to sample or bounce each part separately when I'm ready to mix and master.
@skeogeirl7144
@skeogeirl7144 Жыл бұрын
Did you find a way ?
@ndguardian
@ndguardian Жыл бұрын
@@skeogeirl7144 I haven't really dug into it any further. Mostly have spent my time on just using it as a synth module, which is just lovely. Haven't gotten around to finishing a track though so I haven't actually gotten to the problem part yet. 😛
@oscillated139
@oscillated139 Жыл бұрын
Great review as always. Does this play nice with the USB ports on the MX1 Mixer?
@loopop
@loopop Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I believe it should, but I didn't try
@NickHowesAstro
@NickHowesAstro Жыл бұрын
massive own goal in not supporting zencore. Great form factor, nice sound...but wow... how could they miss that perfect opportunity to implement in effect an MC101 with full synth control
@NickHowesAstro
@NickHowesAstro Жыл бұрын
It does look great (and omits the garish greens from the System-1 etc)..almost Moog like in fact, but ...I have gone ahead and ordered the MC-101 this morning (310 quid, brand new from Amazon Warehouse (full warranty etc), as the lack of Zencore, and lower poly count, compared to the 101, and the staggering amount of sounds/models from Zencore in built (and packs as add ons) makes the MC still IMHO a no brainer
@normdurkin6425
@normdurkin6425 Жыл бұрын
Welcome to Bad Gear...🙌.. sorry it's a Loopop video..
@maryanborovets
@maryanborovets 8 ай бұрын
Awesome! 🔥
@tomfoolery4077
@tomfoolery4077 Жыл бұрын
My thought process with this is to use a Keystep Pro as the Keyboard and the sequencer and the arp, and use this strictly as sounds and knobs. With that in mind, is there something that would be a better fit than this for that application?
@cjlewis79
@cjlewis79 11 ай бұрын
Thanks to this idea, I used mine with my Keystep Pro and it works really well together!
@jonrichards333
@jonrichards333 Жыл бұрын
It would be great if Roland would implement 4 op FM to possibly give Electron some competition
@lundsweden
@lundsweden Жыл бұрын
Roland and FM? I don't think they do FM! 😅
@cisio
@cisio Жыл бұрын
Is it good as a first synth for a beginner? Is this Roland a good way to approach the synthesis? I was looking at the Minibrute 2S but ever since I saw this synth I fell in love with it.
@AbyssalPantheon
@AbyssalPantheon Жыл бұрын
I'm an intermediate player/synthesist. I have immediately snagged this just due to what it offers for its price. I don't care about the analog vs. digital debate, I use both in my setup. You can 100% learn on this device due to the subtractive synthesis aspect. Once you're happy with your progress, this synth will allow you to check out other forms of synthesis as well. The manual may be the hardest part to get through, I heard roland is terrible with manuals. I'll find out on this coming wednesday lol Dunno if it is "approachable" as a beginner, but it packs a lot of punch for its weight if you're just beginning and want something to grow with. I also highly recommend syntorial if you want to learn about subtractive synthesis a bit more in depth before you decide on the instrument you want.
@mrthomasheder
@mrthomasheder 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for a great video! How many factory songs are included? and how many user song slots does it have?
@CarlosShaw
@CarlosShaw Жыл бұрын
Amazing as always! just a little question, can use the sh-4D as a sound module receiving midi program change to choose patches or sequences? thanks
@loopop
@loopop Жыл бұрын
Thanks! It accepts MIDI but I don't remember about PCs - please check the MIDI spec
@Slowlyburnedelectronics
@Slowlyburnedelectronics Жыл бұрын
Quality review as always! Interesting product too! I was wondering, since chord mode is one of the osc modes, when we are in that mode, how we can manipulate the tone/timbre?
@loopop
@loopop Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I show it in the video - you can select one of 4 shapes, and shape each one of them
@Slowlyburnedelectronics
@Slowlyburnedelectronics Жыл бұрын
​@@loopop Thank you for your quick reply! Yes you are right,just re-watched it, I had missed that point.
@themainman3900
@themainman3900 Жыл бұрын
This looks great! Do you know if the USB audio and midi class compliant?
@loopop
@loopop Жыл бұрын
MIDI is, audio isn't (you need a driver)
@amfimoll9428
@amfimoll9428 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the deep review. Could you comment screen quality please? It looks too cheap and obsolete for this time, especially the spotty background light.
@loopop
@loopop Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I address this in the video - yes, it's not modern OLED and motion leaves trails, but frankly after the initial "not impressed" first impression I just forgot about that and didn't notice it.
@richardharris9708
@richardharris9708 Жыл бұрын
I love the JD-Xi and this seems like an improvement (if you have a midi controller lying around) - more parts, direct control over the sound shaping, and a better sequencer. Very interesting. The JD-Xi has far more pcm presets though, and no user samples is a bit of a dealbreaker for now.
@dankeplace
@dankeplace Жыл бұрын
JD Xi is a horrible live performing tool, you have to go through pages and pages of menus to do anything to the sound, if this is your idea of immediate and fun, knock yourself out. Presets on JD Xi are a joke and embarrassment.
@CedricSatterfield
@CedricSatterfield Жыл бұрын
Was wondering the same- can get an old Jdxi with mic for 400 locally.....or Thursday. Need to read some more on this one.
@dankeplace
@dankeplace Жыл бұрын
@@CedricSatterfield JD Xi is a horrible experience, not a horrible sounding synth. If workflow is more important than, well JD Xi is just a lul of an experience. I think I had a total of 4 knobs on the JD Xi, resonance, cutoff, FX1 & 2. It is such a limiting experience, again it doesn't sound bad but you need to tether it to a PC to get access to all those other controls, even ADSR.
@CedricSatterfield
@CedricSatterfield Жыл бұрын
@@dankeplace I agree. People shouldn't have to hack together editors for stuff like that. I can't imagine what it was like programming the larger Jdxa for a Duran Duran show!
@dankeplace
@dankeplace Жыл бұрын
@@CedricSatterfield I sold my JDXA, not because it wasn't nice sounding, but due to it being overwhelming in my mixes and left very little space for my other gear. I guess that's due to the nature of the design and that is was a big, bold sounding hybrid synth. Programming it required patience imo.
@indigosnow_
@indigosnow_ Жыл бұрын
Daaamn, I love Roland. Wonder how it pairs with the Sp404mkii
@hettelap603
@hettelap603 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the extensive review! Learned a great deal and this might just be something i'm willing to spend money on. Midi and audio thru USB... does that mean it is compatible with one of the USB connections of the Roland MX-1?
@loopop
@loopop Жыл бұрын
I don't have an MX-1 but if I'm not mistaken the beta specs said AIRA compatible (please check) so I guess it is
@hettelap603
@hettelap603 Жыл бұрын
@@loopop Thank you!
@spacewavez
@spacewavez Жыл бұрын
Great overview, thanks. Does anyone know if it it sends midi cc data out, from the knobs? (to control also a synth in the DAW for example )
@karinegrandvoinet2038
@karinegrandvoinet2038 Жыл бұрын
about effects : is it possible, for example, to have several different reverbs playing in the same time on different tones or parts ??
@wendelynmusic
@wendelynmusic Жыл бұрын
So I bought one! yay! Mostly loving it. I have a question. One thing I am struggling with is seeing the other rows on the sequencer. How do I get it to show steps 17 through 32 and so on?
@SonicVibe
@SonicVibe Жыл бұрын
Interesting hopefully fixed with update you probably have to hold the page button it shows position then when ya let go of button it goes away I assume
@GeorgeLocke
@GeorgeLocke Жыл бұрын
Just wish it had more analog outs since the multi track USB on other roland gear requires you to use it as an audio interface.
@otuon2441
@otuon2441 Жыл бұрын
Finally something that is unique from Roland and not a rehash of rehash. I hope they can do a firmware on the visual arp so the modulations dont stop after changing pages tho.
@EVILJAMARR
@EVILJAMARR Жыл бұрын
I always start with Loopop
@jakubkostynowicz1745
@jakubkostynowicz1745 Жыл бұрын
Is there possibility in modulation matrix to set target to SuperSAW detune so It could be real time controlled (there is no CC for this)?
@GregoryCefai
@GregoryCefai Жыл бұрын
Give us a review of Expressive E Osmose! That looks amazing
@loopop
@loopop Жыл бұрын
your wish is my command, in a few weeks
@samprock
@samprock Жыл бұрын
Can you pan individual instrument on the rhythm part? Like L/R hats or shaker on individual pad?
@loopop
@loopop Жыл бұрын
yes you can
@samprock
@samprock Жыл бұрын
@@loopop yey! I missed Verselab that got rid of as it was too hard to design/tweak sound, and 707 is too deep as you said, and still no access. SH-4d looks like better synth centric groovebox. No micro timing, which I hope Roland will fix later, as usual. Little sceptical about song mode or chaining, if it's even possible with current knobs and buttons. Thanks for deep review and answer!
@baroufess
@baroufess Жыл бұрын
Nice to see companies trying new stuff but the Roland workflow is a pain in the .......I hope this is different,got to see more videos of course to make up my mind .It packs a bunch for the price point.
@ouchieouchie8130
@ouchieouchie8130 5 ай бұрын
This is the first synth/groovebox that I'm actually considering for purchase. It's pricey as a first purchase but seems like a bargain for its capabilities.
@blkrbbt
@blkrbbt Жыл бұрын
Forgot to say thank you again, Loopop. No machines are real until i hear you talk about them.
@immersiveworlds
@immersiveworlds Жыл бұрын
very nice!
@skippyfast5115
@skippyfast5115 Жыл бұрын
and the small interface window does remind me of the Elektron Analog Four MK1 as do the round buttons
@thephoenixchant
@thephoenixchant Жыл бұрын
They should make one with the same sounds as the 101 BUT with 8/16 tracks, battery-powered. And with piano synth keys and a sequencer song mode like the FA-06
@clarkgabel6875
@clarkgabel6875 Жыл бұрын
I agree !
@victorroberts4637
@victorroberts4637 Жыл бұрын
Ooo! another thought - can you link parts so they trigger with the same keys? Could get some nice complex sounds. I guess you could use an external keyboard and set them to the same midi channel.
@loopop
@loopop Жыл бұрын
that would be cool but no I didn't find a way to do that on the instrument (except programming the same pattern on two tracks or using an external device)
@claudiodezi4375
@claudiodezi4375 5 ай бұрын
Can external audio input be processed by the filter section? Or does it just pass the source to the audio out?
@michelvondenhoff9673
@michelvondenhoff9673 Жыл бұрын
I am fetching a coffee and enjoy your review.
@AlbertoTRP
@AlbertoTRP Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Are you able to sequence the 4 parts individually via midi?
@dirckxd
@dirckxd Жыл бұрын
Yes
@loopop
@loopop Жыл бұрын
yes...
@RobKeay1
@RobKeay1 5 ай бұрын
What’s with the color changing of the buttons? It happens by itself at times, and can also be user assigned. Please clarify. Thanks for all of your help.
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