Thank you Abraham :) you can find more drumming/music on my personal channel over here if you like: kzfaq.info Kind regards!

Yup. No interest in e-drums but I’m sitting through this video just to hear the chops!

@@SRplaysdrums Thank you so much! :)

I agree!!

drumtecTV do you think this model is good for beginners? What’s your opinion for the Alesis drums?

Thank you very much! You can find more drumming/music on my personal channel over here: kzfaq.info You'llalso find more info on www.ralfschumacher.eu if you like, kind regards!

You bother because it's a blast. Keep pounding.

Thank you very much for your kind feedback Scott! Have you also checked out the drum-tec Silent Studio Sessions yet: kzfaq.info/sun/PLfdIgOnHCc5piPaMAnQ1mzLKPpWdzKVuq Kind regards!

Nope. If I'm playing anywhere besides a larger-stage club or theater, I want the most minimalist set possible, 8 inch drums all around and just a half-dozen great sounding kits. The company that invents the collapsible stand and mount setup, where everything folds up into a flat package that can be carried in and out with one hand (without needing to run the wires every time) will own the wedding, dinner club, and Knights of Columbus circuit.

As soon as you think you got the audience is foooled that the drums aren’t electric, the black rubber cymbals say otherwise. The problem with electrics is the bouncy mesh heads , this new design may be better less bouncy.

Are you impressed by the sound as well? Because to me it sounds horrible.

Jeroen De Cloe Nah, not really. But in all fairness I've never been a fan of the e-drums module-sounds from the modules I've heard. I ALWAYS track, and use drum-software. However, my e-drums needs are 100% related to studio-work, for that reason I couldn't care less about the module-sounds. Latency, playability, reliability, and hardware sizes are all that matters to me, personally.

I love the vad506

Well, Roland has been the world´s market leader when it comes to electronic drums :) no other company comes close. Kind regards!

Dankeschön! :)

td-27 is double the cost of td-17 so there is no direct comparison.

@@silotx your right the td-27 is not the td-17 its the successor to the td-25 and the middle ground module ,i liked the td-17 but i just knew there would be a new middle module this year so i waited rather than just settle for the 17 or 25,the 27 is the module i've been waiting for roland to make since the td-17 came out and now its finally here

;-D

Thank you very much David! :)

Thank you so much Rodney :) you can find more music/drumming on my personal channel digitaldrumming here on KZfaq if you like. Kind regards!

Thank you very much! :)

There are many great options now - this new Roland kit, ATV, Pearl e/Merge, Gewa, Strike Pro SE...

@@markomarkovic5729 I wouldn't call the eMerge a great option.

The ATV build quality is better though: Metal inserts and laqued shells vs plastic inserts with wrapped shells. Also the ATV modules sound better.

@@stefanosgeorgiou3489 Have you tried e/Merge? Those pads look interesting, though today everyone boasts that their pads have an authentic feel. Gewa is an interesting concept, the module has great potential, there are many great options (and few buttons more! 😁) that Mimic doesn't have, but on the other hand, Mimic sounds are VST. This is also the biggest drawback of the new Roland kits - they are not compatible with the Mimic, but on the other hand, this VAD series is a much better choice than the TD-50.

@@markomarkovic5729 I tried the eMerge in a music store. Had a very weird feeling playing it like something was off, bad sounds, not enough kits...I wasn't impressed given its price. Dead on arrival IMO.

I agree Mike. Roland is late in the game with real sizes, overpriced, and sounds terrible still. I love the Pearl Mimic Pro but I wish companies would offer lower priced modules that have sounds like Steven Slate or Superior Drummer in them and have real sized kits that don’t require a 5-7 year loan. Why can’t they have a 4pc jazz kit for example with a basic module with select Superior drummers sound pack for around $1000 and have expansion packs going up from there? The ability to add larger sizes and upgrade to a bigger module with more inputs. That’s what is missing.

Mike Luke the other thing I don’t like with Roland digital snare is no snare throw off. It’s USB, they can and should have built it in for players to use in real time.

Thank you very much! You can find more drumming / music / sound demo videos on my private channel digitaldrumming too if you like: www.youtube.com/@digitaldrumming Kind regards!

18 inch ride

It still works?

Thank you! :)

Thank you so much Ken! :)

It's not inspired the founder of ATV was the founder of V-drums. It is a total rip off at a higher price. People are buying this for the logo.

Joshua Ferry definitely not for the sound😂

@@MarkuzP66 Mark every single Roland, Alesis, Pearl or any module manufacture has "crap machine gun sound." Hell on the 27 I have seen comments the toms sound like machine guns. Because you can't crap on the digital snare. Or horrid sound in general from everything. I hear this every time. I bought a TD-17 to run with SD3. Worked great. Did it respond like just the sounds from the module? No... Did SD3 sound better? Yes it did. Then companies like V-Expressions and Drum-Tec sat down and did some tuning. Honestly the TD-27 is going to be monster module that the pro's will tune better than Roland did. They will add samples and it will sound great. It will respond great. We hear this same thing every time. Sounds terrible... Look at the Alesis pro module... Now deemed as the best sounding module on the market. But when it came out it's sound was hacked on time and time again. A few patches later they hero's. I promise your the audience has no clue what you are even playing, with some tweaking it will be right there... Don't believe me? Heard of the late great Neil Peart? He made the news this week. He was huge Roland fan and arguably the best drummer on earth... The sounds will be fine. Please don't take this as an attack. I get tired of acoustic purists telling many of us use your Pearl Masters sounds better. Not all of us can do that. E-Drums are progressing and the future. Just like that time Dillon went "Electric".

Joshua Ferry Sorry, I don‘t agree! I had nearly every drum module from Roland TD12,TD30,TD50 and a 2Box and now I have a mimic Pro and totally satisfied with the sound. Roland has very good hardware and nice electronic sounds but when it comes to acoustic samples it is terrible! The sample just too bad in resolution and no real multilayering with round robin! The result is machinegunning and harsh sounding Snares and Toms. SD3 (I have it too) is total different approach! You can compare this with the mimicPro. Both are running soundlibraries. Roland is not really innovative! The new VAD pads are ATV Copies and the soundmodules are stuck in the 90th. 2Box does better. Alesis does better and thats what I meant!

For the price, get the sunhouse triggers and a laptop.

Yes, Ralf did great in this one (to be honest, he always does)!

Thank you very much! :)

Hi, I´d love to! But until now, no VAD kits are available in europe, for the release I only got the 503 / 506 kit for one day. Kind regards!

It´s never too late for a module upgrade ;-D kind regards!

Thank you very much! :)

Which digital hi-hats are these that are selling for $800?

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gJ95mpRj3L6pg4U.html Kind regards

No, it's a TDM-20: www.drum-tec.com/roland-tdm-20-large-sound-absorbing-drum-carpet?number=1001397 Kind regards!

Thanks!

Jaime Gordillo EQ does not improve realism. You would have to look into Superior Drummer 3.

Have you checked out the drum-tec diabolo series electronic drums yet? :) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o7VhjbuWzpPPZo0.html Kind regards!

Conhece a EFnote?

@@jnagime tem uma sonzera top tambem, andei vendo alguns videos do Efnote 3. pena que é caro para caramba

@@lucasrizzomusic pois eh na minha opinião EFnote 5 $2.800 dólares bate uma Roland de $4.999 dólares fácil fácil,Roland está atrasada em pratos e chimbal por isso EFnote sai na frente,ágora q a Roland fez um chimbal bom VH14 mas custa $1.500 dólares só o chimbal.

@@jnagime compra só um módulo, e vai comprando aos poucos uns pads da Staff Drum e da Royalty Hibrid, e umas ferragens de bateria pra poder adaptar rsrsrs

Hi, you can edit every single trigger zone & sound individually! Kind regards

Thank youuuu! :)

Yes, but that's basically the same problem you have with an acoustic kit in different live venues no? An electronic kit actually has the advantage that is has no acoustic sound to it, that might be problemtaic with the individual room acoustics & interfere with the sound coming out of the PA, so it makes life easier actually in some cases :) kind regards!

Hey Greg, the single components of the VAD kist will be available in the future too. Kind regards!

Oder doch drum-tec diabolo/pro series? ;) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g8lpa9uU2dKtoWQ.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g8lpa9uU2dKtoWQ.html Viele Grüße!

@@drumtecTV Auch super, jedoch finde ich die Kessel- und Cymbalgrößen beim 506 um den Preis toll!

Sure, you can actually get any custom kit configuration from www.drum-tec.com, you might also wanna check out the 100% Roland compatible drum-tec diabolo or Jam 3 pads. Especially the Real Feel bass drums make a huge difference in terms of playing feel & they are actually a lot more silent than the VAD bass drums too: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gJ95mpRj3L6pg4U.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o7VhjbuWzpPPZo0.html&start_radio=1 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bddoeNyl07urp58.html Feel free to get in touch through experts@drum-tec.de for further info / assistance at any time. Kind regards!

Thank you very much, I actually am a drummer by profession :) www.ralfschumacher.eu

@@drumtecTV nice!!

Yes the new 3-sensor system is used in the tom pads. The Snare is the PD-140DS (digital connection): www.drum-tec.com/roland-pd-140ds Kind regards!

Thank you Chris, yes that would be a super setup! The TD-27 is interesting as module for using midi out, it has positional sensing, is compatible with the Roland digital pads (Ride!) and has quite some more trigger inputs than a TD-17. So onboard sounds apart, this is the best bang-for-the-buck high end trigger/sound module you can get for using external samples, without having to purchase a TD-50 :) Kind regards!

Thank you very much! Well, we´ll never know...maybe one day :) kind regards!

The Mimic Pro module needs separate trigger cables just like the TD-50 module. It´s DB25 outputs are for direct out audio output, not for trigger input. Kind regards!

Buy the kit with a much cheaper module and hook it up to something like Superior Drummer. Can't believe that we're in this generation of digital drum kits, and it still doesn't sound even remotely convincing.

The only people that care are mostly other drummers... and drummers are ruthless. haha

Thank you very much Maxime, all settings were standard/stock settings, I may have adjusted the sensitivity settings to my individual preference a little, that's all. If you are looking for sound upgrades for your TD-27 module, you can check out the drum-tec Sound Editions if you like: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r7VgYJaJ37GRh5s.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bddoeNyl07urp58.html Kind regards!

Thank you very much Tyler! I was using the Roland RH-300V headphone: www.drum-tec.com/roland-rh-300v-v-drums-headphones Did you know you get the TD-27 Live Sound Edition sound upgrade free of charge, if you buy your module/kit from drum-tec: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o7VhjbuWzpPPZo0.html Feel free to get in touch through service@drum-tec.de for any further questions and/or an individual quote on any custom kit configuration incl. international shipping if you like. Kind regards!

It will take some months until the VAD kits are available here in Europe, I am pretty sure that there will be separate pads from drum-tec then. You can get in touch through info@drum-tec.de for more specific info & an individual quote on a custom kit configuration if you like. Kind regards!

Thank you very much Hunter! :)

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g8lpa9uU2dKtoWQ.html Kind regards!

As soon as the VAD kits are available, it will be possible to get any custom kit configuration from drum-tec :) Kind regards!

Thank you, it will probably respond very well, as the new TD-27 module is great for triggering external sample libraries & Roland modules work very well generally speaking :) Kind regards!

Hi! 1) TD-27 is the new Rolamd middle class module, TD-50 is the high end model. 2) Yes indeed, if you need 8 direct outputs for live, only the TD-50 has those. 3) Yes, all current Roland modules (TD-17, TD-27, TD-50) offer "sub sample" layering, which means you can use additional one shot samples on top of the module´s onboard sounds on every trigger zone. 4) unortunately no, but you can check out the 100% Roland compatible drum-tec diabolo or pro series electronic drums as an alternative over here: www.drum-tec.com/pads For any further questions, please get in touch through service@drum-tec.de! Kind regards

Yes it is! :)

Hi, the Pearl eMerge has much louder pads, I could imagine that might play an important role. Also the VAD bass drums are fairly loud (they have the same pad as the KD-A22 / KD-10), there are more silent solutions such as the drum-tec Real Feel bass drums: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qLeTo7xju6fZoqM.html All drum-tec pads are 100% Roland compatible & have a super authentic playing feel & rebound. You can check out the drum-tec diabolo or pro series in various setups here: kzfaq.info/sun/PLfdIgOnHCc5rF-i5ONUuDLkeYmEVZg726 kzfaq.info/sun/PLfdIgOnHCc5qEcO6Vkc-KGwqQr-toxrNt www.drum-tec.com/pads Please get in touch through info@drum-tec.de for any further questions or an individual quote on a custom kit configuration incl. international shipping! Kind regards

Hey Greg, no the non-digital snare input is inactive if there´s a digital Snare pad connected, same for the ride. (and same for the TD-50 module). Kind regards!

Thank you very much! :) All drum-tec demos are played & produced by www.ralfschumacher.eu Kind regards!

Erm, this costs like $5000

Lol🤦🏿‍♂️

@@stefanosgeorgiou3489 Just kidding ofc :-)

I love that crappy hi hat sound

Thank you Gustav! :)

This is one of the easiest beats to learn lol

😀

Yes the sound is a bit suspicious, but there are so many free softwares that make any vdrum sound amazing. Really all about hardware

You can check out the TD-27 playing all kits demo over here: www.drum-tec.com/roland-td-17kv-l-drum-tec-edition-with-live-sound-edition Kiond regards!

@@drumtecTV well I just bought a VAD306 and added this module to the order so my skepticism wore off. I specifically dont want real drum sizes both in width and height, and the current 506 with the real sizes just not for me, but I can add 3 more if any others hit the market. The kit is not winning any fans pre release. I couldn't pass up doubling the number of sounds and a bit more I/O options on the 27. Now if I can find matching 6 and 8 inch toms (drum tec? 😀) I will have my dream kit.

@@evankeal Hi Evan, as of know we only have the 6" diabolo fx pad and the diabolo Hand Hammered 8": www.drum-tec.com/drum-tec-diabolo-fx-pad-6-x-5-stainless-steel-with-design-mesh-head www.drum-tec.com/drum-tec-diabolo-mesh-head-pad-8-x-5-hand-hammered-design But there will be more options SOON ;-D kind regards!

It frustrates me too. I think it was 2box that used actual wave files in their modules. It was the closest thing to an actual kit. I'm sick of these companies creating these highly expensive kits that still sound like they did in 2008. If it's going to come down to using plug-ins- I'll just buy some triggers and a cheap module.

@@chopzmasta07 I believe its true since I haven't gotten the Roland kit yet, once you MIDI this kit or other V drum, EF Note, ATV kit, etc into your DAW, you should be able to load a VST such as Abbey Road 60s Drummer by Native Instruments and get (as an example) the authentic sounds many of us seek vs. being limited as to what's in this module or any other. It appears the module here is your selection of choices for straight out of the box configuration. At least with the TD-50X you can load your own samples thus saving any snare from any VST such as Native Instruments or Komplete 13 or Reason 11 and upload those samples into the Roland module to create your own kit sound.

Hey Rafael, the weakest/loudest part of the kit actually is the KD-200 bass drum, which has a KD-10 pad mounted into the 20" bd shell. YOu can compare bd noise levels over here in our comparison video if you like: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qLeTo7xju6fZoqM.html The other pads (toms) have about the same noise level as the other Roland / drum-tec pads, as they use mesh heads & have no tone or resonances from the shells. Kind regards!

Hi Nico, yes the TD-27 module offers additional trigger inputs, you can find more info here: www.drum-tec.com/roland-td-27-sound-module-incl.-live-sound-edition Feel free to get in touch through service@drum-tec.de for further assistance and/or an individual quote on any custom kit configuration incl. international shipping if you like. Kind regards!

Hey Greg, definately the diabolo / pro Real Feel bass drums. The new Roland 20" has a KD-9/KD-10 pad mounted in the shell, just like the KD-A22 has (making it more noisy & giving a less authentic rebound/feel): kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qLeTo7xju6fZoqM.html Kind regards!

I could see that tower on a commercial, ! I knew that was going to feel bad...and noisey. Your pro series are much better. I surprised at how much I like the TD-27. Maybe I need your shell pack with it.. I already have hardware ...and SD3 ! I want you to play that through the 27 !! Thanks 😊

@@gregwilliams2764 Playing all kits of TD-27 actually coming up TODAY :-D

Why would you want to do that? You could buy an acoustic kit right away, no? ;) Kind regards!

:-D

Yes

@@davidcode83 Oops, I commented too early. Saw it in the video.