The no-date submariner is the best watch Rolex make.

Interesting fact about the date Submariner is that if you put it underwater , let’s say when your giving it a rinse in the sink , you’ll notice something really cool , the Sub date dial becomes a sort of Deep Sea , and by that I mean that the reflection of the water on the cyclops crystal de-magnifies the date back to its original size hence the watch can be read just like a no-date Submariner including the minute hands hands , which is perfect for people interested in the date sub without worrying if you take it to scuba diving ( I know a few friends of mine that actually use the Sub date for diving purposes as well ) that won’t be legible while going into decompression underwater. So for all of you watch enthusiast like myself , fear not of the Submariner Date , it’s got all you need😉 Try it yourself folks if you doubt this post

Own the no-date submariner and I love the balance of the dial.

Fully agree. No date is the winner.

Recently sold my SubC date for a profit and bought a new SubC (no date) at list price (I was on a waitlist for 3 - 4 months for the no date). Was a nice trade for a better looking watch! Love the no date sub!

I’ve owned both. No date first then the date. I much prefer the date. The bezel sits more centered to the case and doesn’t lean so much to the left. Also the date window adds an element of sparkle and domed warping I just love.

No date. It’s pure. Nice video mate.

I went with the 114060. It is my 5th Rolex. I have two GMT’s and a DateJust. I felt like I didn’t need another watch with a date function. If I had only two watches, I would of got the date version. I also prefer the clean, symmetrical look of the dial on the 114060.

Personally, if you already a Rolex with a date on it, try out the no date. The no date gives off a completely different vide. It's truly stunning and this is coming from people who own a some with the date.

No date all day🔥🔥 I have the 114060 and love the dial symmetry on the model. Additionally there are ~ 3-4 dates to 1 no date models according to ADs.

Thanks for a nuance and well articulated comparison. I too started with date sub but the no date always seem to look "just right" to me. After a few years of wearing the 114060 I'm happy I made the switch, and if I have to do it all over again I would pick no-date every time.

Very well done with this fantastic review...really helpfull as i asked myself since long time on this subject

I bought the no date version but I would always catch myself looking down at my watch to check the date. so I sold the no date and bought a Hulk. but the no date is a better looking watch in my opinion. however I NEEEEEEEED that date option!

Date v. No date = get anyone. Class watches.

Excellent review Dylan,keep it up!

Totally agree with your choice. I’m waiting for a Sub (no date), it’s the symmetry that does it for me, plus, who really needs a watch to tell you the date?

For me... date for sure!!!! I use it all the time at work.

I want a date just because that date has become a staple for Rolex

Great episode! Glad I chose the no date 😉

I owned the 114060 for a while and found out that something is missing without the date and the cyclops. So I got the 116610LN. Couldn’t be any happier!

No date for me. It looks just so much better

Date version for me

Thank you Dylan for doing such a fabulous review on the submariners ..probably the best review of these watches on the Internet...well done

Great video Dylan ! I think of the no-date as a timeless classic. For the same reason, I also prefer the Explorer over the Explorer 2. All of the versions are wonderful time pieces though.

This is an exceptional video that all Submariner aficionados can appreciate. The only thing not highlighted was the different movement calibre for the date feature complication which is apparent to those who have a 116610 or 114060.

Same like you I prefer a no date version and recently after “waiting list” for over a year I got mine

Absolutely.... no date is perfect...

Splendid review, by the way. After a 3 month wait my AD telephoned me that my 114060 was fresh off the watchmakers bench and waiting for me in the store. I am only buying non-date watches from this point forward. The simplicity is unbeatable

Excellent review. I like a retailer's perspective on these products such as who prefers the date versus no-date. More of the retailer perspective in future reviews would be interesting.

I bought the no date version as my first Rolex. only did it because I loved the look.

Love these models. But the explorer 214270 mark2 is the best there is☺️have mine about a year now, still in love. Still look at it everyday, very proud owner and worth the money. Nobody cares but i just wanted to mention it

I have a no date Sub, but I do like the look of the cyclops. It is a neat Rolex feature that makes it stand apart from other watches. Would be happy with either model. 👍

No date hands down, clean, symmetrical beautiful dial.

Thanks for the video, very useful info indeed. I’m waiting for a Sub (no date) from my local AD in the South of England. Hopefully it won’t take too long, but I have a question for you. I have a somewhat small(ish) wrist (6.75-inches) and currently enjoy wearing my Datejust 36 (116234) which suits me well. I am a little concerned about the maxi case Sub, as all info I can gather suggests it’s rather chunky in spite of its 40mm stated size. Just wondered how you find the Sub.. does it wear a lot larger than 40mm, or is it still wearable in the terms of a my DJ 36. many thanks for your work and assistance in this question.

Perfect review.. thanks

Date for me ALL The way! My AD Literally would not even Sell me the No Date version.

Thank you for this review.

Just love the clean look of the no date👍👍

Thanks for the balanced review!

Also, by the way, excellent review and summary of the two model's merits/demerits.

I own both because sometimes I want a date complication and sometimes I don’t. 😉

Great review!

Like 114060 simple and clean

Great video!

Excellent analysis and really helpful for me to decide if I put my name on the list. 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

I've had both the date and no-date. I prefer the no-date, which is on my wrist right now.

Thank you very much for a great review and the comparison. I would say it is subjective which one is better and it is a matter of preference. I had the Submariner No Date (ref. 114060) and I now own the Submariner Date (ref. 116610) which I use as my daily. It is all matter of preference and there is no right or wrong.

Since I have a BB58 Tudor , I would get a Subdate but preferably a Hulk

Excellent video... evergreen daily watches.... 45% and 35% over retail ! That’s crazy..

Loving my submariner Hulk..😊

Very good review, Dylan. Wish you good health.

Definitely the No date as it’s pure to the roots and looks cleaner. If date (if it’s a must) then I will go for the Sub Hulk. I had the date and agreed with you, it gets nasty dirty around the cyclops and it just break the symmetry of the watch

Thank u for that deep analysis .u r such a clever expert .

I wish they would release a date version with no cyclops!

I think that for people who want to know the date, they should get the date one. And for those who just want the time to get the no date one. But that is just my opinion, I do not wish to trigger anyone.

Great stuff, I just ordered the no date Submariner, because I love the looks ever since I was a child. I dont really like the date window. And the history is also on its side.

Good review, the no date is the true submariner I love mine every time I put it on it looks so nice just love it ⌚

I have a Blue Yacht-master I like the cyclops on mine...it is great for my old eyes!!!

Cleaner design of no date. 👍

I have just bought second hand no date version as my first rolex. Thanks for sharing your opinion

You can do a video with all your watches like this! I want to know all the watches in your collection! 😙

The date feature with the cyclops is a fantastic improvement to the base version.

Very well put video. Although I own the 124060 I chose it for the very same reasons. I don't mind the cyclops on a Datejust but on a Submariner - no date.

Fair argument. Well done Mate.

IMHO the Submariner and the Submariner Date are both wonderful timepieces. I agree that the Submariner Date seems to be a little more popular than the Submariner. However, either choice is a winner. The primary factor and goal is what you believe looks good on your own wrist! The Submariner suits me well and I rotate it with my favorite Rolex i.e., Explorer 214270 MkII. These three Rolex models fit my style and for me all are "good to go" practically any place, any where, for nearly any activity and with nearly any attire - suits, casual etc. but not black tie :-).

Love this video. I too prefer the no-date. Hey, what is that strap on your nodate Sub? Looks nice.

What's the minimum wrist diameter the sub will fit without removing links? Do most people need links removed?

The best way to clean the edge of the Cylops is to wrap a thin Rolex polishing cloth over a finger nail and wipe. This notion of fewer folk wearing a certain model is academic because only a minute decimal of one percent of people in the world wear a Rolex.

i had explorer 2 and began to admire no date when i got explorer 1 for the joy and perfection of the view

QUESTION! How does the date work? It does not know which month it is, so does it just go up to 31st every month?

I have a ceramic Dated sub and love it. I also have a Datejust 41. Both watches have the cyclops. I think it adds a certain flare to the watch and makes them instantly recognisable as a Rolex

The title of this review should be: Rolex Submariner Vs. Submariner Date.

I own the submariner, nice watch but the submariner date is more convenient

The dirt around the Cyclopes really bothers me too. But like he said, it's an modern iconic feature of Rolex watches.

Great review. No one talks about the dust around the cyclops. !!

I wanted the Sub but I could get a date brand new so did so and now prefer it. Ideal world would be both!

Love both , I prefer the date version by a slight margin

Yes iv noticed the date makes the watch look smaller.

The Submariner is MUCH more legible than The Submariner Date as the time can be read at very acute angles on the wrist without being distorted by the ugly cyclops. Great Vid 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻!!!

What’s the point, can’t go to an AD and buy either. Love Rolex, absurd is the games they play to the consumer.

I prefer the date version

No date for me too. I dislike the Cyclops so I tend to buy such as the Milgauss and the Explorer.

NIce Rubber on the NO DATE can you send the Link to buy it , thx from Germany :-)

I own both models and agree with your opinions. When I was in Richmond I failed to find your office.

Thanks for this video helped with my decision (No date 👍)

I like no date too. Same as you. Thank you

This is probably a hot take, but I prefer the 3135 movement over the 3235, even though the 3235 is clearly a better performing movement. The reason is probably really stupid, but it is what it is. When I set the watch, I want the the time to move up when I turn the crown up, or the hands to turn clockwise when I turn the crown clockwise. I absolutely hate it when I need to rotate the crown anticlockwise to change the time forwards.

No date for me.Could you make a video on the new DJ 126234 please?

This is precisely why I could not stand either over time (no pun intended, honestly): I liked the Submariner (Rolex apparently calls it just the Submariner, no 'No Date Submariner', as it is the original) but I did miss having the date function but the cyclops mechanism for delivering the date fails for me in that it absolutely attracts nicks and dirt just as the chap says. The better option for the same sort of thing from Rolex in my opinion is the Sea-Dweller and preferable to that, given the likelihood or murder or mugging in London for a Rolex, is the Omega Seamaster. In addition to not being the watch of choice nowadays for Z-list celebrities, drug dealers and pimps - but rather of NASA and the SBS - Omega has the corollary advantage of not being as recognisable to London's increasingly knife-wielding thieves as Rolex, as it is not worn in gang videos or laid out in police drug raid photos.

Big no-date fan! But even though I'm impressed by the looks of it I just can't do the ceramic thing, knowing that it just won't age as well as a pre-ceramic. Also I think the 14060M has a more appropriate and iconic case design, especially because of the holes. Combine that with the gold surrounds and you have an excellent daily wearer, that still looks luxurious even when it's all beaten up. Pre-owned 14060M's are already ageing nicely and I think that's what I'm getting before prices go up. But I also think one can never go wrong with the modern ceramic if it speaks to you more. All subs are simply fantastic.

Submariner Date for sure

Date and with the original bracelet

No date is simply the best 👌

What abouth thickness? Are both the same?

Just got my sub no-date last week :D so happy because the date just makes the watch looks messy. I don't even remember how long that I have to wait until I got it :> :>

Just picked up the no date today.

James Bond did not need a date on his Submariner, even post-1966.

I have a hard time deciding date or no date...

Hi. Why do they sell used for more new? Why wouldn’t someone just buy new? Are they hard to get new?

Knowing nothing about watches, I bought the “no date” Submariner 18 years ago. Now I’m a watch fan and I’m very glad I did. Never have found I watch I would rather own. Dumb luck.