for me omega has more personality

The Rolex is only cool because you can’t have one.

I’ve purposely become an omega guy because of this Rolex market BS.

I’ve had my sea master for 5 months now and could not be happier. Black face with a rubber strap.

Hi Bruce. Almost everything is spot on, but I disagree with the score for the movement. Cal. 3135 is good and even if it is more accurate and with higher beat rate, the 8800 comes ahead due to increased power reserve, low friction co-axial escapement, titanium balance wheel and silicone hairspring (a-magnetic, durable, temperature resistant, less or no lubrication). Rolex's next gen caliber 3235 is comparable to the 8800, but the 3135 is lacking.

Rolex makes money. Omega makes watches.

Omega everyday and twice on a Sunday....

+10 for the Omega for price and availability

Omega easy win for me, Submariner style just done to death (too ubiquitous) & the status symbol image is a real turn off for me personally.🤷🏼‍♂️ Brave of you to tackle this, given how entrenched & vitriolic fans of either brand can get ( 🤣 they're only watches folks!!) Cheers mate 👍🏻👍🏻

Rolex 10 in design?🧐I think the thick lugs look stupid

Rolex =89???

Rolex should be deducted a point for the cyclops, and Omega deducted a point for the helium escape valve.

I would have given Omega a 10 for box/extras, crystal execution, & movement and 9 for lume & Design/Versatility. This would put the Omega at a score of 92 in my opinion and beating the Submariner.

For me i would score Sub 87 while Seamaster 94 .

Bang for buck goes to the Omega Seamaster. And you can actually purchase it.

Seamaster for me.

Well the difference in quality between both watches might be negligible, but the difference in price and purchase experience are not. Rolex is certainly a great brand, but what is the point of this hulk being better than the omega when you would not be able to buy it the first time u decide to walk into rolex AD. The hulk might be a better watch at three times the price, but generally u can feel omega seamaster gets more love in the community. Look at that beautiful case back from the seamaster! Seamaster just has more character i think and is not priced at an over inflated price. Thanks for the review anyway.

I don’t like that people argue that the Omega doesn’t hold value and the Rolex increases. If you buy a watch with the intention of selling it, then you don’t care about the watch itself. It should just be enjoyed every day until it is ready to be passed down. Not stuffed in a safe until it’s worth more. If people are so concerned with how much money they’re going to get back, maybe they shouldn’t be spending money on expensive watches in the first place.

Anything is better than that hideous date magnifier...

4k new omega barely edged out by 20k Rolex 😂. What that say about Rolex?

Summary of the video: Rolex is a slightly nicer watch but Omega is a WAY better buy as a watch lover. Yeah, I'd buy a Seamaster over Submariner too. However, I am not attracted to them as much as other watches in my list.

Nice video although the outcome was predictable;) A while ago I got a call from an Rolex AD to pick up an Sub 114060. I tried it on for the first time and wasn’t too excited. I also tried the date, same. I noticed it felt like I had that watch already owned, because it’s so present and you see it everywhere. Which makes it kinda boring? So I didn’t purchase it at the end. I will go with an Omega PO 600m instead. Thanks for the video and Stay safe!

Well, who'd have thought it,, the Rolex comes out on top,, !! Lol,, If someone gave me a Hulk, I'd immediately sell it, and get 2 smp's,,, ha ha.. It's all a matter of personal preference and taste,, Whatever floats your boat, as they say,,, Great video though Bruce,,.

If I could actually buy the rolex at the retail price i would probably side with it. But considering the inflated premium you have to pay on the grey market I would definatly go with the Omega all day.

Your math is off. Sub is 89. SMP is 87. Margin of error.

I have the white dial version of the seamster and absolutely love it!

See someone wearing a Rolex & you think "FAKE". Not a problem with the Seamaster. Plus it's a better looking watch

Most experts agree that the new Seamaster is a better watch than the Rolex 3135 Submariner in just about everyway. Specially when it comes to the new movement in the Omega. And mine keeps nearly perfect time sitting straight on the time grapher.

I bought a brand new SMP 300 on bracelet for 1/3 the price of the cheapest used hulk on Chrono24. The two watches are so close, it would be a hard decision if they were the same price. With the Rolex at 3x the price, there’s no way it’s 3x better.

I have the blue SMP 2018 version on bracelet and absolutely love it!

Bit of a predictable outcome to the contest, isn’t the Rolex three times the price of the Omega?

I prefer the Sub but in no way does a supercase Sub deserve a 10/10 in design.

Small diff in produce, huge diff in price

Excellent video Bruce! I really like this comparison format and would love to see more of these.

This is definitely one of the more mediocre among your reviews... can‘t relate to the high praise for the Submariner, especially when comparing it to the Seamaster. Some of those categories are rather irrelevant: what do I care about brand/model meandering some 30+ year ago... More relevant would be the current pricing policy for instance. Can‘t fight the feeling that the Rolex just had to win this one…

Bruce I noticed that the omega seamaster has enamel numbers on the bezel , is this strong 💪 or as good as the the planet ocean bezel

Rolex should get deducted points for no transparent case back

Congrats, you've done the almost impossible to compare such 2 titans. The availability trouble is against Rolex, whilst the looks of the Omega leaves no other option, but to buy. One, who wishes to escape that choice, takes the Lange. Cheers fm Singapore+

I really love how you always manage to show off the watches under natural light. I love both of these watches. My diver of choice is the Seamaster 300 master coaxial that you reviewed a while back. Simply because it is a little more reserved for every day wear. But I would definitely love to own one of these as a more playful alternative.

Rolex = 89 Fantastic head-to-head review. Both are amazing pieces!

The Submariner design is so boring for current-day eyeballs. So many ugly design choices - slab-sided super case with clumsy looking lugs, cyclops, Mercedes hands.

Bruce, the Rolex scored 89. Your chart says 91. I have both watches as well. The Omega always leaves me a little cold. There is a slight femininity to it that never quite settles with me. A girlfriend saw all my watches and then bought herself a blue Seamaster. The Rolex feels more classically masculine. The watch I prefer over both of them is Omega Planet Ocean.

Pretty harsh on the omega. Not any mention that we can actually see the beautiful omega movement compared to the Rolex, which we can’t see? Definitely disagree with the movement part of the video. It’s also pretty sweet being able to buy the omega... Good review tho

Phenomenal review, very fairly and objectively done. One small thing that I was hoping you'd address was the microadjust on both. I have a Sub and an SmP, and VASTLY prefer the SmP's microadjust over the Rolex Glidelock since you can easily adjust it while it's on your wrist, whereas you need to take the Sub all the way off and carefully do the adjustment to get to the right size increment. Ultimately I agree with your assessment of the Sub coming out slightly ahead, but with the microadjust (and display caseback) I think the SmP is an 88-89 for me.

I feel that if you covered so many sub-headings, you could have added four more - value proposition, availability, versatility and servicing. It would have been much closer, if not a trouncing of the overpriced Algae.

Great review as always. You may want to check the math on the Hulk as it adds up to 89 and not 91. This is a much better and more factual comparison than a couple of other watch channels. Please do more of these, Bruce.

I own a Sub, a SD 43, and Seamaster Diver 300 and the new Planet Ocean orange bezel. I love them all, but Omega takes all categories for me. Comfort, complexity of design, better movement (all of my METAS movements are within a second while Rolex teeters at the 2 second mark), and “it” factor. Both have robustness like no other. Rolex has the better bezel action for sure though. Best I’ve ever felt.

That was the most balanced comparison between those two watches I have seen. Personally I'd buy the Seamaster over the sub. The design is more interesting, and it lacks the Rolex baggage.

Good comparison 🙂 Seems to be a little mistake with the calculations, the total for the Rolex is 89, not 91. I would choose the Omega, but i would go for the black and white version.

Hi Bruce, if you factored in a ‘value’ score or ‘availability’ score the results would have been even closer. I ended up with a Seamaster and a BB58 and still spent less!

Good perspectives on both. Rolex Brand/Perception is slipping. No way is it a 9. I'm noticing a more derisory attitudes towards Rolex these days. Even from current owners. Personally I'm glad Rolex made their watches "unobtainium" before I got into luxury watches. They saved me thousands!

How about a comparison between the Tudor Pelagos LHD vs the Omega Sea Master 300 No Time to Die. Does the Omega deliver twice as much value?

Any thoughts on the cases of each watch Bruce? Think this may also be an important factor.

Love both but far prefer Omega as a brand, as everyone else has said the marketing BS shows the Rolex are for status conscious guys and the Omega is for watch guys. For me if I want the status I’d get the Blancpain 50 Fathoms.

I’d be curious about the precious metal offerings in the Seamaster.

I have a Planet Ocean and it pisses me off that it gains up to 10 seconds if I don’t wear it for a day and leave it dial up. Wear it everyday it never loses or gains a second though.

WHY DID YOU LEAVE OUT BANG FOR THE BUCK??

I own both of these watches and love both for different reasons. I purchased the Sub ten years ago before the artificial supply nonsense and my enthusiasm for this watch hasn't waned since I was a kid. Classic and comfortable and possessed of the best stainless bracelet in the game for my wrist. The Omega SMP 300 (2018) is a watch that I wear as a daily driver and have shown no mercy for a year and a half, or so. It revels in taking a beating and does so without fuss or resistance. I'm sure the Omega will have more stories to tell at the end of its useful life and perhaps that's the mark of a true favourite. Accurate and very comfortable on strap, I can't fault this watch in any way except to say that for me the metal bracelet is not at all in the same league as the Oyster. But; if it came down to brass tacks, my 40 year connection to the roller gets my vote as my desert island timepiece. Cheers.

The Omega is a mans watch. I loooove the submariner. But the presence of a seamaster on wrist is so masculine, and the band pops more with the small polished accents. Love mine...plus Its been to space and is bond's watch. 😁

12:11 100% true, all my Omega watches, including older 1120 movements, have poor accuracy when sitting idle. That means when you go to bed and wake up you could see around 4 seconds deviation... my old 3130 movement Rolex is still running at 1-2 seconds a day regardless of positioning...

I am partial to my Ploprof!.I enjoy your video content always !

Your video on the green Aqua Terra is one of a few I watched before going to the boutique and picking up my very own this past Saturday. My experience on the 8900 movement - I haven’t touched it since I set the time Saturday the 15th, and looking at it right now it’s only +5 seconds of satellite time. I can’t speak to the 8800 but I thought you should know your video inspired me and also how incredibly accurate the 8900 is for me personally!

I'm with with you most of the way with this one Bruce but their's a few problems. Where is the value category? Any purchase decision should have a value category. The value is a 9 for the Omega and 6 for the Rolex in my humble opinion putting the supply games to one side. Also 10 for design on the Rolex with those maxi lugs? I don't think so. If they were slimmer and the bezel was smooth without the dirt catcher text a 10 for sure. Last of all Bruce your maths is not so great, I make that 89 not 91 for the Rolex. All the best Bruce and I actually like them both about the same but they don't cost the same.

Imhave had both and only have the SMP now. I guess that shows how I feel about this issue.

Great comparison review. Wise to leave it a few months after the Seamaster ‘Honeymoon’ was over. I really like both. Omega is obviously more watch for the money (unless you’re buying to invest) but ultimately the black dial seamaster pro you reviewed a while back is my favourite 😀

My dilemma is this ... I save the 6k or so and go with the new BB58 Blue or do I go up another 1k for the Seamaster?? I have and love the black BB58 perfect fit on my wrist .

Excellent and thoughtful comparison. I listened to this wearing my Grand Seiko SBGA229 spring drive diver. It has been a great daily watch for me. I would be more inclined to go with the Seamaster on rubber than the Rolex. Having owned a Yacht-Master I, I will acknowledge the superiority of the Oyster bracelet and clasp but I ended up preferring the Rolex on a Rubber B strap instead of on the bracelet. I have other high horology “statement” watches so I do not need a Rolex watch in order to fulfill that purpose. I would be more inclined to look at the Tudor Black Bay with the in-house MT5601 movement than a Rolex as the BB does the job the Submariner was designed to do and is a much better value proposition. Given the success of the BB blue, I am relatively confident that a BB green will be offered down the road. Thanks for your work.

I love both watches and I agree with mostly everything said in this video. However, what I think should have been included as well in the rating are two additional things: + You can actually see the 8800 movement from Omega, which is a huge plus for me as I love to see what is going on inside the watch. - I have noticed that, if you hold the Omega very near to your ear, you will hear the bridge move, whereas the sub‘s (and rolex in general) movement is completely silent. As an additional personal point, I would rate Omega‘s fitting a little higher as the 42mm just looks better on my 19.5cm wrist😅. But that‘s just my personal case. Thank you very much for the great video! Cheers and greetings from Switzerland🇨🇭

Awesome👏🏻!

Great review! Any opinion as to whether the Planet Ocean 39.5 would have done any better?

A very nice comparison between two stunning pieces from great brands. It would be nice to see your comparison between the Seamaster 300 (ref. 233.30.41.21.01.001) and the Submariner. I am curious to see if the Seamaster 300 would be able to do better than the Seamaster 300 professional. What's your opinion Bruce?

Got the SMP in black on steel bracelet a few weeks ago. I just stare at it sometimes. It's a beauty.

I got both in my hand and easly decided to buy the Omega. The Seamaster with the black watchface is my present for my incoming birthday. Greeting from Germany.

I think the seamaster has a better more adjustable clasp. But I prefer the look of the sub. The seamaster is superb bang for the buck. Although the 2 price hikes in the uk this year is making it a harder pill to swallow

Great reviews Bruce. I respect and envy you have the Hulk an Seamaster. The Rolex for dress to empress the Omega for daily and durablity. Thank You for all your work and excellent video presentation. Stay healthy and safe. I am waiting for my Sinn U50T on bracelet.

Wonderful review!

its the seamaster for me, i have the previous model, and will be getting the mew version!!

Another gem,Bruce.I could walk into any store and purchase the seamaster and at a discount. It would be a long,long time before I could buy the superb rolex,at retail price ! You have provided us the a most comprehensive and logical comparison however. Once again,I would love to have both of these watches. Keep well and stay safe.

I believe comparing the Submariner with the 2018 Planet Oceans makes more sense in terms of the pricing

Bruce, doesn't the better finishing on the Seamaster movement count for something? Score cannot just be based on accuracy alone.

I have my seamaster crown up at night and it hasn’t gained or lost a second in about a month!! I’ve tested multiple positions and crown up at night and on the wrist during the day keeps it extremely accurate In my experience.

I have similar "issue" dial up my Seamaster gains +8 secs as you shows there... gains too much time in about 2 weeks

I actually dislike a bracelet that tapers. I don't mean to insult those who prefer some taper, but I think it somewhat feminizes a sporty watch.

How on earth does one pick the all-green Hulk as the more versatile watch? And the clasp on the Omega is superior to that of the Submariner by a country mile, yet that goes completely unnoticed? I understand you own both watches, but the review is screaming Rolex fanboy. Especially when you conclude the review without mentioning that you will have to pay 4 times the price of the Omega to get your hands on the Rolex. Pretty relevant, since you determined that the two watches are otherwise comparable. I myself own a 116610LN and a black dial SMP 300. From a pure functionality standpoint, the only category the Sub wins in, is the bezel. So factoring in that it costs three times the price of the Seamaster, I don't think it's even close which one is the better watch whether you talk technical specs or value for money. That being said, thanks for the video and content.

To be honest the Sub just looks passé these days. Omega has moved ahead in terms of style and tech.

Nice comparison. Agree. Now you need to do a Planet Ocean comparison. I think the PO would score a bit higher. Nice review. I had a 2017 SMP that would do 0 sec a day as well. That first gen 2500 movement was a good performer. My PO gets -1 a day. One thing you left out is the a-magnetic properties of the Omega. That is something the Rolex cannot match. That +8 a day is way off. Never had any Omega do that bad. My Sub never got to 0 sec a day, -2 which is very good.

That Omega is probably more accurate than the Rolex. My Railmaster has been getting between +.05 to +1 sec a day consistently, yet it doesn’t indicate that on the timegrapher. Do real life testing and tell us which wins

The 15,000 gauss magnetic resistance is incredible. It’s a huge reason why I chose this watch as an electrical engineer. I would argue that anyone who spends a lot of time by a smartphone or computers should value this feature more.

Seems like you are still in the honeymoon phase with the sub. No way it is 2-4x the watch for what you pay. I purchased a sub ten years ago and it never grew on me. Sold it earlier this year and replaced it with both the ceramic Seamaster, and a Pelagos with the proceeds. Both of which get worn regularly verses sitting in the box like the sub did for a decade.

Ive always been a die hard Sub fan but with prices crossing the $8K mark (preowned) I started exploring the Omega collection and have fallen in love with the Seamaster line. I'll always admire the Sub's but i've found the Seamaster to be a better watch at a reasonable price. Im now looking to get a black dial Seamaster and a 300M.

Interesting synopsis of the Omega 8800 movement of -/+, on the wrist, as well as off. Thanks for pointing this out. This info. could have slipped by most of us. Great review! 🙂

I have four Rolex watches (one Datejust, one black date/cyclops Sub, one two tone date/cyclops Sub, and one GMT Master II), but I’m not going to buy a grey market model today. I’m trying to get my next one from the AD, but may have to wait for a while, if I ever get another one. But, I feel the Omega Seamaster Pro is more advanced than the Rolex, and the open case back is just beautiful. I have an Omega DeVille and love the watch and it is also gorgeous. My next watch may just be a Seamaster Pro over the Rolex Explorer II (which is the next Rolex that I would like). Thanks for the show...

I thought there were 2 barrels in series on the 8800 movement.

Guy says he loves the cyclops on the crystal but at the end says he would prefer the no date option haha

Who can review and compare top 2 dive watches other than Bruce? Thanks for this insightful video.

I have both. Love both. But I wouldn’t compare them in a head-to-head - they each have great history and the finish/quality is about even...they are just different.

I owned a GMT Master which I traded in for a Submariner 2 tone in the late 1980"s. After less than 1 year it was losing 1 minute a day! That is huge so I sent it back to Rolex for calibration and adjustment. After several weeks I got it back and after only a couple of months. . . . it was losing a minute a day once more. So I sent it back again only to have the same result. After that I called the Rolex US office in NYC to complain. I was told by the customer service person (and this is not BS) that in the end that Rolex was more concerned with fashion and style than with accuracy. Wow that blew my mind! That week I traded the watch in for an Omega which kept pristine time for years and I am on my 4th Omega now (The Planet Ocean Quantum of Solace Special Edition) and I could not be happier. That being said I do wish that I had kept the submariner also as now it is worth almost 4 times what I paid for it in 1986.

God damn I really want the black seamaster just wish it was a touch smaller

I think this was the Question for ages! thanks for this Bruce!

I have the new Seamaster diver 300 in black face and I love it, it goes with everything. If Omega would limit it's production this model could potentially sky rocket in value. It's a brilliant watch, great movement with a very current design. Love the Rolex as well :)