Why the Omega Seamaster Is Better Than the Rolex Submariner | Watchfinder & Co.

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Watchfinder & Co.

Watchfinder & Co.

4 жыл бұрын

Let’s cut to the chase: if you get the opportunity to buy a Rolex Submariner 116610LV at RRP, do it. Take out all the finance, put it on all the credit cards, and if you don’t like it you can sell it and make a tidy profit. Then you can take that profit and buy one of these: the Omega Seamaster Professional. Here’s why that’s the better option.
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@watchfinder
@watchfinder 8 ай бұрын
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@gonshocks
@gonshocks 4 жыл бұрын
I guess James Bond didn't want to be on a waiting list for a Rolex and opted for the Omega instead. Spectre.
@jimmyf1312
@jimmyf1312 4 жыл бұрын
gonshocks James Bond’s first watch was the Rolex.
@Ragamuffyn
@Ragamuffyn 4 жыл бұрын
@@jimmyf1312 that was before wait lists
@bombazine2
@bombazine2 4 жыл бұрын
James Bond wore Rolex in the Ian Fleming books. Omega in the later films was product placement.
@Doyoumushroom
@Doyoumushroom 4 жыл бұрын
@@bombazine2 But in the early Bond days Rolex was an affordable brand that a decent wage could afford. Service men were issued them or bought them as they were a tool watch where now they're a luxury statement.
@bombazine2
@bombazine2 4 жыл бұрын
Doyoumushroom yep. This is true. Rolex only make 3 tool watches now. Deepsea, Explorer and Milgaus. The only models not available in precious metals
@insane_troll
@insane_troll 3 жыл бұрын
3:42 - You gave me bad advice! I tried walking to my nearest Omega store, and it took three hours and they were shut when I got there. It turns out they aren't open in the middle of the night.
@currentaf8455
@currentaf8455 2 жыл бұрын
Go back to the bridge troll
@ashnpikachu
@ashnpikachu 2 жыл бұрын
😪
@rsr789
@rsr789 4 жыл бұрын
"Omega makes watches; Rolex sells watches." Rolex sells spots on waiting lists, you can't actually buy the watches.
@rsr789
@rsr789 4 жыл бұрын
@Jee Vang They pay gray market prices (at least for the steel sport models).
@gmshadowtraders
@gmshadowtraders 4 жыл бұрын
Rolex is the biggest criminal gang of bastards on the planet. You send a valuable watch in and they will swap out and hold onto those parts, to use for their own nefarious agenda. Despicable criminal bastards.
@nicrow1369
@nicrow1369 4 жыл бұрын
gmshadowtraders - must admit I’d heard that too by a friend who restores vintage Rolexes. Shameful.
@jasonh289
@jasonh289 4 жыл бұрын
they do that so it doesn't end up on fake watches.
@gmshadowtraders
@gmshadowtraders 4 жыл бұрын
@@jasonh289 Yes, without the express consent of the original owner who is paying for the service = Criminal bastards
@rodsalvador3608
@rodsalvador3608 3 жыл бұрын
You buy a Rolex to impress others. You buy a Seamaster or a Grand Seiko to impress yourself.
@Flashdog97
@Flashdog97 3 жыл бұрын
You just buy a rolex when you are filthy rich, most of the people won't know what a seiko is lmao
@martinblanklikeswatches
@martinblanklikeswatches 3 жыл бұрын
the kind of person who will be impressed by a Rolex will probably be impressed by an Omega too...
@ripperx444
@ripperx444 3 жыл бұрын
No one is impressed by a Rolex.... LOL GS shits on all them btw
@Triggaaar
@Triggaaar 3 жыл бұрын
You're right for a lot of people, but it depends where you live, and the company you keep. I'd like a Rolex Explorer 1, simply because I like the watch, but the truth is, over 90% of my friends think a Rolex is a watch for tw@s.
@Flashdog97
@Flashdog97 3 жыл бұрын
@@ripperx444 wtf is gs
@alanurbanski7697
@alanurbanski7697 4 жыл бұрын
"Omega makes watches; Rolex sells watches." Classic.
@oldarpanet
@oldarpanet 4 жыл бұрын
Meh. Omega went to the moon. Rolex went to the mall.
@Whiskey_Tengu
@Whiskey_Tengu 4 жыл бұрын
@@oldarpanet how many limited edition moons did Omega visit? I lost count.
@oldarpanet
@oldarpanet 4 жыл бұрын
@@Whiskey_Tengu ;-) So far, all of 'em man went to!
@90210Skye
@90210Skye 4 жыл бұрын
Rolex sells watches. Omega tries to sell watches.
@audir82008
@audir82008 4 жыл бұрын
oldarpanet 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@thereagan2001
@thereagan2001 4 жыл бұрын
Omega: we’ve just made a brilliant watch that’s better than a rolex. Rolex: Im Batman
@VinceRegan
@VinceRegan 4 жыл бұрын
This is more true than we may be willing to accept
@sureszpityesz
@sureszpityesz 4 жыл бұрын
My name is Bond... James Bond ;)
@jimmyf1312
@jimmyf1312 4 жыл бұрын
sureszpityesz James Bond’s first watch was a submariner. ;)
@sdamico555
@sdamico555 4 жыл бұрын
YOU WIN KZfaq TODAY~ Maybe forever.. that simple succinct statement perfectly sums up everything!!
@thereagan2001
@thereagan2001 4 жыл бұрын
sdamico555 thank you kind sir
@TimsEnthusiastGarage
@TimsEnthusiastGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Omega have proven to be the superlative brand over my 2 decades of owning a variety of watches. They run more consistently, feel ultra high quality and can hold up to daily use. Even when I spent years as a studio drummer wearing a Speedmaster they kept amazing time with no issues due to the increased G forces or shocks. I have a 50th anniversary Seamaster GMT that has never been serviced. Wasn't even on a winder for most of it's life and still keeps perfect time and has near the guaranteed power reserve. Rolex by contrast, if worn daily shows more wear and in my experiences the bracelets and deployment clasps don't feel near as crisp as they did when new. I actually let one go because it felt like that car that was getting on in years and you could feel the looming unreliability. Also, in a world of lovely case backs Rolex has the most unremarkable case backs in existence, good only for engraving. "Son, here is your Rolex, sorry I couldn't see past the hype and buy you that Omega." Other than A. Lange und Sohne I lust for no other watch more than any one of my Omegas. Cheers on a bloody brilliant channel.
@romansfortunyr3882
@romansfortunyr3882 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you I have both GMTs Omega and Rolex, omega's rated for 300m when Rolex only 100m, my Seamaster performed better than rolex at -30 deg C, Rolex lost more time, Maybe Omega is technically way better watch, but Rolex started the whole savoir faire...and thus some credit there....
@50000WattsoPower
@50000WattsoPower Жыл бұрын
Brilliantly said.
@patrickjean-philippe7679
@patrickjean-philippe7679 Жыл бұрын
The Rolex name appeals to the masses; it is the most valuable watch brand in the world through recognition. About everyone knows what a Rolex is. Omega is not as well known but I think their co-axial calibres are little marvels of timekeeping performances.
@jeetdeshmukh
@jeetdeshmukh 5 ай бұрын
Well said
@remuswheeler2264
@remuswheeler2264 3 жыл бұрын
The last time Rolex invented something new, I fell of my dinosaur.
@bighands69
@bighands69 3 жыл бұрын
Rolex just cannot be bettered.
@istvantoth7431
@istvantoth7431 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂🤣
@jc4liferesearch5
@jc4liferesearch5 2 жыл бұрын
@@bighands69 😳😂😂😂😂😂
@Norskellunge
@Norskellunge 4 жыл бұрын
"Sometimes better doesn't matter... the real question is-do they make you feel good?" And there you have it. In general, we make irrational purchases based on emotion and subjectivity, then attempt to justify our decisions to others and ourselves through specifications. We aquire formulated personality and contextual meaning in an effort to make it part of our own identities. Buy what you enjoy and leave others to do the same. An excellent video!
@joem5140
@joem5140 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Strangely, to me anyway, I am finding myself enjoy cheaper fun and interesting watches more than the grails. I was in an omega AD and after trying on the Seamaster I walked away. It is amazing just not my type of enjoyable.
@charlesYoungbae
@charlesYoungbae 4 жыл бұрын
agreed much... if i buy a Omega, Tag Heuer, Seiko, IWC, etc.. i just can't help having the feeling that i'm giving the impression that i simply can't afford a Rolex and deep down i know i would rather own a Rolex. Another thing is if i'm paying thousands on a watch, i pretty much would want it's value to hold over the years. No offense though, it is how it is 😬
@ralfybaby
@ralfybaby 4 жыл бұрын
@@charlesYoungbae Just goes to show that you are not a watch guy but a Rolex guy.
@Chief_5
@Chief_5 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed a luxury watch is just that, a luxury you buy it because you want it and not because you need it. 🐍
@radoslavmilev4896
@radoslavmilev4896 4 жыл бұрын
So...the seamaster is better watch and nicer in my opinion. However Omega just releases too many....too many watches, variants, models. And terrible marketing.Did you ever see an Omega advertisement...terrible!!!
@varanid9
@varanid9 4 жыл бұрын
OMG, who else, after seeing the title of this video, came here just to see the hostile reactions of enraged Rolex fanboys?
@iandeaville652
@iandeaville652 4 жыл бұрын
I'm raging lol
@pringlw
@pringlw 4 жыл бұрын
Not raging. But will provide a working new Seamaster to anybody who wants to provide me with a working new Submariner.
@havocproltd
@havocproltd 4 жыл бұрын
@David Topchiev you're girlfriend was telling me just the other day, after out last dive, how much she prefers men with wristwatches of style and value and that she hates your swatch!
@dukemackeydavid1
@dukemackeydavid1 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry you can't afford one
@fastcougar3200
@fastcougar3200 4 жыл бұрын
@True Gooner Omega owned by Swatch too. Made by Swatch too. Oh, well.
@fishstickssrn3909
@fishstickssrn3909 3 жыл бұрын
You just watched a gentleman fan-boying over an Omega Seamaster. I love this channel
@iBJanky
@iBJanky 4 жыл бұрын
I’m fortunate to own both a Rolex and an Omega dive watch. I love both, but if I had to pick just one, it’d be the Omega Seamaster. It’s just a better watch overall.
@fastcougar3200
@fastcougar3200 4 жыл бұрын
That means you lied about owning a Rolex.
@iBJanky
@iBJanky 4 жыл бұрын
@@fastcougar3200 What do you mean? How did I lie?
@carlgouder
@carlgouder 4 жыл бұрын
Rolex could release a statement saying that the new Seamaster is a “better” watch than the current Sub. People would still lust after the Sub because they can’t get it. Human nature I guess.
@Enzaie
@Enzaie 4 жыл бұрын
Best comment ever on this matter...!
@IronKing79
@IronKing79 4 жыл бұрын
@guess what funny name, hehe, which ones did you bought? Most retailers are out of stock for the performance watches. They are getting hard to catch.
@carlgouder
@carlgouder 4 жыл бұрын
guess what false information? I’m a Rolex fan so chill out. Good for you only having to wait a matter of weeks for your SS models. 99% of watch fans know it is near on impossible to get a Sub LV at retail. Hence the whole idea of Watchfinder’s video. 👍🏼
@varanid9
@varanid9 4 жыл бұрын
@guess what How vastly over-inflated were the prices that you were able to find them so easily?
@IronKing79
@IronKing79 4 жыл бұрын
Try finding a Daytona or a GMT "batman".
@Tonkybro3
@Tonkybro3 4 жыл бұрын
This may just be one of the Greatest marketing psychology video i have ever watched. Now im a huge fan of this channel. Thanks for this.
@JamesVincex
@JamesVincex 4 жыл бұрын
"False scarcity" Hit the nail on it's head!
@emanuelrivera8048
@emanuelrivera8048 3 жыл бұрын
I have a submariner and a mid size seamaster, right now on rolex forums AD’s have been telling customers that they should expect a 6 month waiting list to get one. Right now not going to lie, all the stories and posts I have seen in rolex watch forums are how their turnaround wait time was for about a week/month or so haha
@Steenos
@Steenos 4 жыл бұрын
One of the best comparison videos I've seen. I like both but obviously the Omega is way more obtainable and with the blue face looks incredible! Well done. I will own an Omega one day!
@gabrielvazquez7147
@gabrielvazquez7147 4 жыл бұрын
I have sold both brands, and as nice as the Rolex is, it is not that gold idol that Indiana Jones steals from the temple. The hype I saw when selling Rolex did not seem healthy to me. Games being played by everyone involved, dreams of "rolling" the watch for a profit by clients, it was not pretty to be any part of that circus. Omega dive watches have a cool history, can go head to head engineering wise with any dive watch, bar-none, and my clients for those watches loved the looks and liked the adventurous spirit of the watch. It was fun selling Omega watches. I sold my Rolex watches and still have my 1996 Seamaster. I hate silly games at the sales counter, it is embarrassing to be a professional sales person and have any part in that, so my money is on Omega all day long.
@9tophat
@9tophat 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. The supply/demand/profit game Rolex has been playing for years makes me not want a Rolex. I also prefer Omega every time over Rolex for a few reasons, that being perhaps the biggest. I also despise the general public impression of someone wearing a Rolex, which tends to be that it's a fake, you're wealthy, or you're a egotist wanting attention. I understand that Rolex is a high-value company selling high-value watches, but to play with their present/future customers as they do is a turn off to me. I don't play games and I don't like that being done to me. There are a couple Rolexes I might consider saving up to buy if the "You can't buy one." climate didn't exist, but instead, I will save for buying my Planet Ocean someday.👍
@kevinmason124
@kevinmason124 4 жыл бұрын
A friend who is a watch repairman (and who sees and repairs a lot of both brands) said something similar. The Rolex is a nice watch, but you are paying a lot for the name. Omega is better made.
@markreynolds9135
@markreynolds9135 4 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Vazquez I am glad you have the money to waste. Once you walk out of an Omega store with a purchase, you have just lost half of the value.
@gabrielvazquez7147
@gabrielvazquez7147 4 жыл бұрын
If you're buying a Rolex thinking you're going to make money on it, the one wasting money is you. In the first place, the only Rolex watches you have any hope of making a profit on are their sports models, and they have jacked up the price on them so much that I doubt you'll make anything unless you hang on to it for twenty years, and good luck getting them to sell one to you if you just walk in to a boutique. The rest of their line can be bought online or at any pawn shop at a discount all day long. Second, watches are not investments, they are timepieces made to be worn. If you want to make an investment buy Apple stock. I'll take an Omega any day of the week, and it's not a"waste of money" because I'm never selling that watch. Rolex watches are not any better than an Omega, but if you wish to spend ten grand on a steel dive watch it's your cash to waste, so go right ahead and buy it.
@uga.d4173
@uga.d4173 4 жыл бұрын
@@markreynolds9135 More than one way to define value. If you come to love the Omega even more that the day you bought it, then the value actually INCREASED .
@zekevfab
@zekevfab 4 жыл бұрын
Rolex marketing can backfire as well, as many people who buy them are looking for status only. That is one of the reasons that steered me towards buying an Omega as my first luxury watch.
@zekevfab
@zekevfab 4 жыл бұрын
Throngdorr Mighty that’s very right, but to me Rolex became too recognizable as it completely penetrated into the pop culture. I love their watches, but the brand seems to have a “I have succeeded” connotation I was not going for. Some other brands are a bit more discreet.
@gpearce11
@gpearce11 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. When I first got into watches properly, the excessive hype around Rolex, and the resulting baggage that comes with wearing one (and endless “is that a real Rolex”) honestly turned me off the brand. I’ve since come to appreciate that they are excellent watches (not particularly my taste, but that’s irrelevant), however the hype and baggage is still very real and still pushes me away from the brand.
@jm-pj3ul
@jm-pj3ul 4 жыл бұрын
Geoffrey Pearce if you live by your means no one will ask you if youre wearing a real one.
@atl3630
@atl3630 4 жыл бұрын
j m that doesn’t make a bit of sense.
@kronikinsomniak
@kronikinsomniak 4 жыл бұрын
@@zekevfab you buying other brands that costs thousands of dollars is no different. They are all luxury goods.
@gentlesigno3041
@gentlesigno3041 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone's arguing which is which... And here I am enjoying my Seiko
@octoman_games
@octoman_games 3 жыл бұрын
Seiko is an EXCELLENT watch!
@yurrickhunt9707
@yurrickhunt9707 2 жыл бұрын
Fitbit*
@cardiobuck
@cardiobuck 4 жыл бұрын
They are both nice pieces. However, I actually think the Omega with its George Daniels movement is technically superior. To me the greatest watches are ones where engineering and art are combined most successfully. The Omega wins here as a total package. I know real watch guys that have the Rolex as part of their collection and THAT Rolex customer I greatly respect. Unfortunately for me Rolex is tarnished as a brand because so many of their customers are people who aren't really into watches, they just want the image. Its the thing to buy when the big bonus check comes in. They don't really care about what they own or want to know many of the details. Sort of like the BMW owner who has no idea what DI intake valve deposits are. The Rolex is probably the better investment if you buy with concern for selling. If you buy to own/enjoy and are not likely to sell go for the Omega.
@silvershadowjsh
@silvershadowjsh Жыл бұрын
You’ve summed it up perfectly!
@predatorishi
@predatorishi 3 ай бұрын
If you are selling watches for money, you need to get a better job in life which is paying money. 💰 😂
@InsideSomething
@InsideSomething 4 жыл бұрын
In the old days, my dad would walk in to a store and pick a Rolex to reward himself in every new chapter of his career, that was when they could be purchased easily at discounts, it was with no intention of flipping when owning a Rolex. I am a dad now and couldn't do the same based on how Rolex has became, I guess Omega is the new Rolex in this generation..
@rosshilton
@rosshilton 4 жыл бұрын
InsideSomething I bought my first Rolex - a GMT master, as a reward for surviving my first offshore contract. I did 12 months in the Middle East when it really was a hardship posting.....
@LiquidIEx
@LiquidIEx 3 жыл бұрын
Every luxury watch is way more expensive than decades ago. Omega is no exception.
@erth4896
@erth4896 3 жыл бұрын
Tudor may also be the new Rolex for this generation.
@Celestias
@Celestias 3 жыл бұрын
More like Casio is the new Rolex given the current world economy :)
@bighands69
@bighands69 3 жыл бұрын
Omega is nothing near Rolex.
@diegobittar7425
@diegobittar7425 4 жыл бұрын
The shots, the script, the voice, the story. For me deserves an Oscar.
@mrp9498
@mrp9498 4 жыл бұрын
Diego B Hes👌🏼
@gpjp8999
@gpjp8999 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@fastcougar3200
@fastcougar3200 4 жыл бұрын
Good liars are always very elaborated.
@crodar
@crodar 4 жыл бұрын
Love WatchfinderCo’s “anti-Rolex” rivalry against Hodinkee’s praise for the Ro’s
@fastcougar3200
@fastcougar3200 4 жыл бұрын
Well, Hodinkee;s also praising Omega since they became retailers. Both of them, just some scammers.
@superfast30
@superfast30 3 жыл бұрын
Omega craps all over Rolex from a technical and and in many cases, from an aesthetic perspective. Omega in my books is far innovative!
@bighands69
@bighands69 3 жыл бұрын
That is pure crap.
@wukillah
@wukillah 3 жыл бұрын
Nope
@JamaicaItalia
@JamaicaItalia 4 жыл бұрын
I love how he just shits on Rolex and the bs that theyre doing with supply and demand manipulation. They still dont care though
@michadebicki6534
@michadebicki6534 4 жыл бұрын
They have an infinite number of lambs on the market who are ready to pay any price and even allow themselves to fuck their asses for praise and envy of others. This is what Rolex understands VERY well.
@youAbajajTube
@youAbajajTube 4 жыл бұрын
This is because he works for richemont
@chrismartin4607
@chrismartin4607 4 жыл бұрын
@@michadebicki6534 That's the paradox right there. That doesnt benefit them as it's the grey market that is generating the funds but like you say what it does is increase product hype and enhance its brand name.
@DanielS-pu4eu
@DanielS-pu4eu 4 жыл бұрын
JamaicaItalia - it must be a very delicate balancing act for the marketing folks at Rolex. How do we control supply to drive up demand and yet not send all of our buyers running to buy Omegas? I am just waiting for the day the people on the waiting list for Rolex start canceling their orders and pick up Omegas, Bremonts or Blancpains. Maybe then Rolex will get the message
@sveeny
@sveeny 4 жыл бұрын
Michał Dębicki clearly you haven‘t made it to the top of the waiting list 😅
@kyokuten
@kyokuten 4 жыл бұрын
You closing statement applies on several choices I've made in my life, and yet, what makes me feel good is what turns out to be the better choice
@arjdroid
@arjdroid 4 жыл бұрын
I think that Omega would do good to make their seamasters just a bit smaller, I feel that would make the seamaster so much more appealing to people with smaller wrists, the 42mm is just a bit too large
@aaronmontgomery2055
@aaronmontgomery2055 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly a 40 would be perfect
@curlyslippers9934
@curlyslippers9934 2 жыл бұрын
I agree but have you tried it on wrist? It wears more like a 40mm than our expect.
@richardlamazares6350
@richardlamazares6350 2 жыл бұрын
This watch wears like a 40
@fabianstrasser2719
@fabianstrasser2719 2 жыл бұрын
Own a SM with this ref and it wears just right (17,5 cm wrist)
@timjkelly2121
@timjkelly2121 Жыл бұрын
I picked up the 41.5mm also have the 41mm sub, it’s still about three times heavier than the sub!
@AcostWiest
@AcostWiest 3 жыл бұрын
what is the best price you find for the seamaster now, 2021?
@gondag464
@gondag464 4 жыл бұрын
This will rustle many Rolex jimmies
@gondag464
@gondag464 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeeefthegreat7555 touche milord
@alastairblair
@alastairblair 4 жыл бұрын
Probably no, the vast majority of Rolex buyers aren't that "in to" watches
@diegoog3654
@diegoog3654 4 жыл бұрын
@@alastairblair key word "vast majority"
@diegoog3654
@diegoog3654 4 жыл бұрын
And be a wet dream to an Omega fan(atic) 😉
@PhilKulak
@PhilKulak 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeeefthegreat7555 Eh, compared to Rolex, Omega might as well be Timex to anyone who doesn't know watches.
@alangordon8190
@alangordon8190 4 жыл бұрын
Well done to Watchfinder for heaping praise on an Omega, a brand owned by Swatch and not Richemont. The lack of supply of sports Rolex watches is very tedious (and that's coming from a Rolex GMT Master II owner). I am seriously thinking of cashing in and buying a brand that has higher horology than Rolex and without all the nonsense that goes with Rolex.
@kart182
@kart182 2 жыл бұрын
Did you end up doing it?
@Justdisco2
@Justdisco2 2 жыл бұрын
Each division is kept separate.
@MikeK02048
@MikeK02048 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a Omega Seamaster in 2002 for $1200. It's one of the "James Bond" editions. It's the best $1200 I've ever spent. I wear that watch every damn day. I swim with it, ski with it, and wear it to the office. And at last once a month, some stranger stops me to tell me they love it. I've had it serviced twice (by Omega at about $500 a pop), and it keeps pretty good time. But a $20 digital watch will keep better time, and that's not why I love it. It just makes me feel good whenever I put it on. Rolex watches are beautiful. But I also feel that folks look at Rolex wearers as pretentious jerks. If I wanted to buy another watch, I'd go with another Seamaster. Timeless beauty!
@bobbyc3147
@bobbyc3147 2 жыл бұрын
Hi I thinking of getting one. Do you think it will last 100 years?
@michaelkaplan8925
@michaelkaplan8925 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobbyc3147 If you take good care of it.
@hokemspitter
@hokemspitter 4 жыл бұрын
I really like this watch. I can't seem to find it with this gray face. Any help finding it would be appreciated.
@chinchinche
@chinchinche 4 жыл бұрын
It's a good day when watchfinder releases a new video.
@tods.9947
@tods.9947 4 жыл бұрын
Omega perfects watches, Rolex perfects an image.
@likeris2
@likeris2 4 жыл бұрын
rolex makes me feel better then omega.
@3082103
@3082103 4 жыл бұрын
yeah for some ppl who are insecure and or need to proof themselves or create an "image" they would get the rolex. omega guys dont need to proof themselves
@patrickfallon4413
@patrickfallon4413 4 жыл бұрын
3082103 The word you’re trying to use is prove. And it’s clear you have nothing........to prove.
@pringlw
@pringlw 4 жыл бұрын
Rolex has better marketing no doubt. But their watches are also better. Sorry, they just are.
@jamescollett2625
@jamescollett2625 4 жыл бұрын
B Pingle they used to be in the 90’s but not anymore. Since 2015 when omega introduced the master chronometer they overtook Rolex. It’s more accurate, doesn’t need to be serviced as much as a Rolex and can’t get magnetised. Rolex movements are amazing but omega is better now. The testing omega does is amazing.
@AndyWBurns
@AndyWBurns 4 жыл бұрын
What’s up with the Sub’s lume pip at 17s in? It looks incomplete. Is that a camera angle thing?
@Audittr2108
@Audittr2108 4 жыл бұрын
Within the last 2 years the Seamaster list price has risen from £2900 to £4170 with the latest price rise. It was a no brainer if you were looking for a great dive watch but I’m not so sure at its current price. Add to that the excellent Tudor offerings and I’m even further away from thinking about a Seamaster.
@SHONUFF772
@SHONUFF772 4 жыл бұрын
I love Rolex. The submariner is a perfect watch. The Omega Seamaster is ALSO a perfect watch. My gripe with Rolex is with this pseudo shortage and faux allure they have created. Exquisite company and quality products- but you’re not allowing us to interact and engage in the beauty. Omega is Swiss and fantastic but they, in my humble opinion, are unfortunately a victim of being TOO accessible and that’s a damn shame. My only grip with Omega is that they produce TOO many variants. Shrink the product line down and focus on the best of the best. Then......when you finally DO produce a new variant - people will marvel. But then again- how can I fault a great Swiss brand that WANTS accessibility and the ability to provide variety to its customers. Remember- if there were no Rolex - Omega would be the king.......
@herts9999
@herts9999 4 жыл бұрын
Well said
@RichardWestmoreland
@RichardWestmoreland 4 жыл бұрын
Exclusivity sells. Especially for a brand that's based around impressing 'other' people like Rolex.
@audir82008
@audir82008 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely agree 👍🏻
@leetmango
@leetmango 4 жыл бұрын
Contradict yourself.
@PepRex
@PepRex 3 жыл бұрын
Why would we want Omega to not become accessible? Surely we all want something we want accessible?
@johnmorrison8351
@johnmorrison8351 4 жыл бұрын
I love the Hulk, but I don’t see myself spending $14-$15k on a $8,600 watch. That kinda money competes with far nicer watches
@xekret
@xekret 4 жыл бұрын
That is why he said if you can get it at retail, do it.
@George-hz3qq
@George-hz3qq 4 жыл бұрын
guess what you just called everyone who is into art or vintage cars/watches/furniture a retard. Who are you to decide that. If you want to be 100% rational with money spending then go invest it all and never spend it. But that's not fun. Live and let others live.
@giovani5586
@giovani5586 4 жыл бұрын
@@George-hz3qq lol dude, rolex are mass produced watches, it's equivalent to someone paying premium for a normal BMW 3 series.
@George-hz3qq
@George-hz3qq 4 жыл бұрын
Giovani Altelino can you read? If yes read the comment of "guess what" and mine again and then write a comment.
@robertspinks835
@robertspinks835 4 жыл бұрын
Robert Stark The problem is having to pay over retail on a watch that’s currently in production is what’s stupid once it’s discontinued that’s another matter. This is what Rolex creates unfortunately
@mikegeary2112
@mikegeary2112 4 жыл бұрын
I'll still take the Omega every day, and twice on Sunday.
@kvo2002
@kvo2002 2 жыл бұрын
Lol that was quite clever!
@hassanmalik2335
@hassanmalik2335 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent Analysis. I must say I enjoy your reviews tremendously. Keep it up.
@romanopeterj
@romanopeterj 4 жыл бұрын
I just bought the black version, and absolutely love it. I have spent my career in Advertising and Digital Advertising Sales, and agree that Rolex is the better brand, but I prefer the look of the Seamaster, and intend to keep my watch.
@davydmir6565
@davydmir6565 4 жыл бұрын
@P North why not black?
@Ronin228
@Ronin228 4 жыл бұрын
@P North said no one ever
@evh4611
@evh4611 4 жыл бұрын
@P North That was nasty
@havocproltd
@havocproltd 4 жыл бұрын
@P North ...oh that's tacky!!!! thanks for the laugh!!!
@Karsonbarnes11
@Karsonbarnes11 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. Rolex product restrictions have gotten absolutely absurd. Omega's products are superior to Rolex, plain and simple.
@Don-Anvar
@Don-Anvar 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all of the great videos, its helped me a lot to understand the industry. I recently purchased an Omega Seamaster and I'm completely thrilled with it. Honestly, I didn't know it would be that nice of a watch. ( Yes I'm subscribed ;) )
@Pat_Fenis
@Pat_Fenis 4 жыл бұрын
At 3:14 the shock absorber spring - looks like one of its elements isn't lying flat on the stone. It looks like its lifted.
@dippin1523
@dippin1523 4 жыл бұрын
this was the best analogy I have ever heard on this subject. Its absolutely true and has been for years. All you have to do is pick up a Rolex and then an Omega. Its very obvious. I have both and agree with this completely
@marceauratard6869
@marceauratard6869 4 жыл бұрын
I had a hulk, sold it and don't miss it. My only regret was selling it before it caught fire. I have a 300m with the grey dial with the blue bezel (the one displayed here) and I'll never sell it. It's as close to perfect as you will find
@sackman1886
@sackman1886 4 жыл бұрын
I had a GMT Master II (black dial, green hand version) that I sold a few years back for like $7k... They are easily sold for like $11k today!!! I don't regret selling it, but I'd sure like that $4k!
@ginyamaguchi1421
@ginyamaguchi1421 4 жыл бұрын
What a ratard
@udin737
@udin737 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree 100%. 😊
@gpearce11
@gpearce11 4 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for you, as if you’d held on to it just a bit longer you could have gotten the SM 300M in several colours!
@marceauratard6869
@marceauratard6869 4 жыл бұрын
@@gpearce11 totally
@alexjakub9749
@alexjakub9749 2 жыл бұрын
can't decide whether to get an omega seamster of a zenith defy classic skeleton white ceramic. They're so completely different. Anyone got any pointers?
@frankjablonski9403
@frankjablonski9403 3 жыл бұрын
Bought a new Submariner in 1978 for $660.00 . At the time, I was as interested in sailing and liked the Rolex Americas Cup ads in Sail magazine. Back then, other than sailors & divers, very few knew what it was. I send it back every 8 years or so for a tune up. Other than the time away being serviced, I've worn it every day since. No regrets.
@h111551
@h111551 4 жыл бұрын
This video has attracted a lot of energy. I would favor the Omega over the Rolex for many reasons. I own Rolexes (a Datejust and a Yacht-Master I) and one Omega (a 1200M Ploprof). The Rolexes bore me and I would much prefer Omega to Rolex. However, I now have two Grand Seikos and I find these two watches to be my preference now.
@zedrickapollo4290
@zedrickapollo4290 4 жыл бұрын
Good for you. Nice collection by the way, I have the rolexes also but only one omega, the speedmaster. Love my grand seiko. But still I prefer my Rolex.
@simpson-qk6yd
@simpson-qk6yd 4 жыл бұрын
Well u own the most boring of rolex models, go buy a daytona or a submariner even an explorer and see the difference
@h111551
@h111551 4 жыл бұрын
I do not think that other Rolex references will change how I view Rolex but I appreciate your suggestions.
@Lamar-wq7jj
@Lamar-wq7jj 4 жыл бұрын
Datejust or yatch master zzzzzzzzzz..u just bought the wrong rolexes
@bengahzijr.4293
@bengahzijr.4293 4 жыл бұрын
And all you point out is exactly what makes the Omega SMP my favorite watch.
@rosshilton
@rosshilton 2 жыл бұрын
Two years in, you can’t even get to touch a Rolex, and Omega are still discounting…. from Watchuseek September 2021: “I got 20% off an Aqua Terra over the holiday weekend. Before that I was only offered 10%. Both not at an Omega boutique.” Try getting a 20% discount on a Rolex…. Pretty well sums things up.
@Kiwigd
@Kiwigd 3 жыл бұрын
SMP 300 suits me perfectly.. it complements my Seiko diver ‘work watch’ so well. if I was to chase another diver, it’d be an Omega Planet Ocean almost certainly.. although I’m also tempted to go for a better Seiko like the MM200.. currently very satisfied 😉
@ritethumstik
@ritethumstik 4 жыл бұрын
That compelling "and yet..." Always grabs me
@njchai834
@njchai834 4 жыл бұрын
It's interesting to see how the Richemont group condemns Rolex's watches, by complimenting Swatch's watches. Indeed, the adage that "... my enemy's enemy is my friend" must be true.
@dtm4trix
@dtm4trix 4 жыл бұрын
Justin Chai imho they nailed it despite who owns Watchfinder. I don’t think they’re bagging on Rolex per se. I think they are talking about the image Rolex projects. Plus the supposed shortage of desirable Rolex watches. They sell watches by getting those who can afford it to buy their less desirable watches to get the one they want. ie sell more watches.
@kastapostgard5306
@kastapostgard5306 4 жыл бұрын
I think they nailed it. Im an omega guy but there is no question rolex are leaps ahead when it comes to image. If it was all about build quality we’d all be wearing seikos
@gabrielvazquez7147
@gabrielvazquez7147 4 жыл бұрын
@@dtm4trix You are correct.
@leeharding8306
@leeharding8306 4 жыл бұрын
You are joking? Watch finder is always raving on about Rolex’s to a point where they have increased demand which in turn has helped them sell more of them at a even greater ridiculously over inflated price. Of course you can’t play this game for ever because the prices with start to catch up with watches that are considerably better. There’s also a point where people let go of the elastic and won’t play the game anymore too which is starting to happen already. As for the Omega being better well it is. How many experts do you need to tell you it is? I love them both but the Omega in this case is a better watch.
@gabrielvazquez7147
@gabrielvazquez7147 4 жыл бұрын
@@dtm4trix That's exactly what they do, which is why I came to the conclusion that Rolex is not a real luxury brand. True luxury brands do not have to resort to hucksterism to sell their products. You would never see Cartier or Tiffany & Co. behaving in such a shabby and disreputable fashion with their clients.
@juliecable3351
@juliecable3351 3 жыл бұрын
could you review the Jaegar LC Master Control Sector dial limited edition. I want one for my partner. perfect dress watch but I can't find much information on it. love your content.
@geekyhawk325
@geekyhawk325 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'd like to learn about Rolex's marketing and branding strategies in depth. Can someone please recommend some book or video which can help me with that ?
@VersedNJ
@VersedNJ 4 жыл бұрын
I have that Seamaster, on Bracelet, always wanted a n Omega and recently bought this and very happy with it.
@IronKing79
@IronKing79 4 жыл бұрын
My first Luxury watch was an omega seamaster blue sphere, the second one was my grandfather's Rolex, both were stolen, my third is a GMT master II, eventually replaced the Omega, my fourth is an Omega seamaster GMT big white, My fifth is a Yacht Master Everose Rolesor Rolex, my gift for my 40's, the sixth is an IWC in fine steel, Portofino, 8 day reserve, the seventh is a ROLEX GMT master II steel and yellow gold, with the ceramic bezel and black sphere, the eight luxury watch I bought lately is a Rolex datejust steel and yellow gold, with green sphere and diamonds in the VI and IX. All bought new, worn box and papers. And yes, I love to wear the omegas, great watches. It's an addiction. No, I'm no millionaire. Yet. And this Sunday my collection grew with an Explorer II white and orange.
@realmaniac
@realmaniac 4 жыл бұрын
@@IronKing79 nobody cares bro
@pauljackson6593
@pauljackson6593 4 жыл бұрын
Jose Kawage I care...nice watches you must be proud of them
@IronKing79
@IronKing79 4 жыл бұрын
@@pauljackson6593 yes, they are nice and collections are always something to be proud of. They all have a story. Thanks.
@IronKing79
@IronKing79 4 жыл бұрын
@@pauljackson6593 and I bought an explorer white dial this past sunday.
@MRggrf
@MRggrf 4 жыл бұрын
I have both watches, a classic black submariner date and a blue seamaster diver. I really cant say which one is better. They are both similar but still very different. The only thing I can say is that you make nothing wrong if you buy one of these beauties!
@The_real_Mr_Ghost
@The_real_Mr_Ghost 4 жыл бұрын
i have also both and i would take the sub all day
@MRggrf
@MRggrf 4 жыл бұрын
Ess tiger maybe the best overall. I have different diver watches also a classic Seamaster 300 and I think every watch has its special „thing“ and that makes them all unique
@The_real_Mr_Ghost
@The_real_Mr_Ghost 4 жыл бұрын
Yes but the sub is much more luxury. And feels much better on the wrist
@christheswiss390
@christheswiss390 4 жыл бұрын
I like the narrators speech patterns, choice of words and voice modulation. Very nice and soothing tone.
@giovannibucio
@giovannibucio 2 жыл бұрын
Omega for me because it has more history more style and it means eternal.
@frederickdenina1305
@frederickdenina1305 4 жыл бұрын
watching this while enjoying wearing my Seiko 5 snkl41 j.
@varanid9
@varanid9 4 жыл бұрын
I almost started a collection of Seiko 5s, but, I already have too many retro dive watches. It would have been fun, though.
@SteveKemper
@SteveKemper 4 жыл бұрын
currently wearing my SKX033 :)
@Andrewolf79
@Andrewolf79 4 жыл бұрын
I'm with my Seiko padi 😂
@fungus70
@fungus70 4 жыл бұрын
I have the yellow Seiko BFK on my wrist now.
@nikolaslee4912
@nikolaslee4912 4 жыл бұрын
SBDX001 on mine right now :)
@manos3790
@manos3790 4 жыл бұрын
I've been collecting Citizen's range of 'eco-drive for 2 and a half years and believe the titanium and' bullface to be equally as aesthetic as both of these, possibly not as water-resistant as either though.
@darkstargear
@darkstargear 4 жыл бұрын
Just grabbed one of the Seamasters weekend? Grey dial is amazing.
@davidbergaragonzalez5653
@davidbergaragonzalez5653 4 жыл бұрын
I like the Omega more. I love that color scheme. Blue is my favorite color on a watch, especially when it's only used for the accents.
@yixiang8119
@yixiang8119 4 жыл бұрын
I got struck by a lightning six times and hasnt received a call from my AD that my 116610LV is ready for pick up.
@lurox5183
@lurox5183 4 жыл бұрын
Best comment
@iandeaville652
@iandeaville652 4 жыл бұрын
You should stay inside if its looks like there's a storm coming......
@svshootingstar
@svshootingstar 4 жыл бұрын
I've got the same Omega you show in this video. My one VERY BIG gripe about the gray dial is that under normal lighting the hands are very difficult to see and the date is nearly invisible. In the dark the lume does nothing to help with readability. Wish I had purchased the blue dial version.
@mikeab2871
@mikeab2871 2 жыл бұрын
Good to know I’m gonna buy the blue one
@mrlong6267
@mrlong6267 2 жыл бұрын
And I’ll buy the black dial one 👍🏻
@philorgneopolotin8762
@philorgneopolotin8762 Жыл бұрын
And I’ll buy a calculator watch because I’m broke 👍
@Noah-Lach
@Noah-Lach 9 ай бұрын
Omega seems to have an issue making lume that's actually useful. My Aqua Terra is basically impossible to read in the dark because the tiny application on the minute hand overlaps the indices and makes it difficult locate.
@ahmedaminedahmeni8441
@ahmedaminedahmeni8441 4 жыл бұрын
I cant even afford a new iphone, why im i wantching this ? :(
@sealevelbear
@sealevelbear 4 жыл бұрын
Dream!
@sahirdiesh6386
@sahirdiesh6386 4 жыл бұрын
Mate 90% of the people watching can't afford a watch like this they just watch for fun I'll bet
@mq46312
@mq46312 4 жыл бұрын
It's almost the price of this watch to be honest 😂
@justust4953
@justust4953 4 жыл бұрын
New iPhones these days are overpriced like hell.. so it's not that strange I guess..
@MDMOTHI
@MDMOTHI 4 жыл бұрын
Keep dreaming. Some day u might buy one. All the best
@Eir0n
@Eir0n 3 жыл бұрын
Omega Seamaster have more soul, Rolex is like a sterile modern watch, great quality but it lacks that last bit..
@freddiemercury6682
@freddiemercury6682 3 жыл бұрын
It kinda reminds me of Apple. Sterile, image obsessed, good quality, instantly recognizable, and has no soul.
@slick4401
@slick4401 4 жыл бұрын
The Omega is a watch. The Rolex is a statement.
@SHONUFF772
@SHONUFF772 4 жыл бұрын
Munrais that’s the best comparison I’ve ever read- bravo sir
@dtm4trix
@dtm4trix 4 жыл бұрын
And that's why I don't like Rolex as a brand.
@Tonkybro3
@Tonkybro3 4 жыл бұрын
@jake haaaahahahaha Best post ever
@brandonnickerson8934
@brandonnickerson8934 4 жыл бұрын
The... "I can't afford a Rolex, settled for this limited edition of a limited edition with an ugly wart" statement.
@mbnb007
@mbnb007 4 жыл бұрын
jake however just look at human nature .. most people want nice clothes , nice houses , nice cars etc etc when cheap alternatives can do pretty much the same thing ... comes down to survival of the fittest and the peacock tail aka sexual selection .. and who doesn’t want more selection lol :P
@Harry-tb8yo
@Harry-tb8yo Жыл бұрын
Before I bought my first luxury watch in 2008 I considered both, the SMP and the Sub, ending up buying the SMP which I own to this day. Even back then the Omega was technically superior to the Rolex while costing half of it. It was the first SMP with the co-axial escapement and therefore had the more advanced movement, it had a more refined dial, bracelet, caseback and last but not least a much better clasp. As a mechanical engineer I like it when things are solid and well-made, so I really like Omegas clasp while the flimsy Rolex clasp was a huge disappointment and turn off. Such a clasp is acceptable on a budget friendly Seiko but definitely not on a luxury item. Since then I never considered Rolex again, even if they didn't do this nonsense with their "waiting list".
@pitotito1
@pitotito1 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video, thanks.
@tjhudson40
@tjhudson40 4 жыл бұрын
Bought my first Submariner at 21 after working hard and saving up. Sold it to pay off a loan a few years later and lost next to nothing. Just psyched myself up to buy a Moon Watch....after watching this I need another Sub! It's how it makes you feel....
@gaijinflyer
@gaijinflyer 4 жыл бұрын
Haven't seen a Rolex I would buy (at the prices asked). Own four Omegas - all different marvels of watchmaking and (to me) style.
@havocproltd
@havocproltd 4 жыл бұрын
2 rolexs, 3 omegas, 2 breitlings. both lings rated to 1000 feet - im afraid to wash my hands wearing them! my Subby and my Seamaster Chrono have spent long hours below 130' without fail! some bastard stole the last good seiko i had at a thanksgiving dinner for barracks orphans i hosted. sigh.
@nazimL1011
@nazimL1011 3 жыл бұрын
I’m about to get my first luxury watch, and after months of research, I ended up settling for the 300SMP. Technically, it’s just a better watch, and there’s something about that name that Rolex will never match in my opinion. I could be biased, I am in the aerospace business, and was a competitive swimmer for years and years, and Omega was just omnipresent.
@czechmate-youtube
@czechmate-youtube 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing Review! I really enjoyed the video.
@erth2man
@erth2man 3 жыл бұрын
As a machinist it is all about quality, design, durability, flawless operation, and availability of parts. I'm not concerned at all with what someone else might think of me because of the watch that's on my wrist so any idea of "status" means nothing at all to me. For these reasons I've been an Omega fan and collector for many years.
@codemaster94
@codemaster94 Жыл бұрын
I still love the 2531.80 Seamaster the most because of being a Bond fan, but you got me hooked on the newer models in how you described it. The wave dial on the older version looks better to me but the craftsmanship of the new makes it desirable.
@ldorman
@ldorman Жыл бұрын
I guess you did mean 2531.80... 7 months old post and no-one pointed it out... makes me wonder
@paulbrown9009
@paulbrown9009 4 жыл бұрын
I've had the experience of owning a Rolex and Omega I'll tell you one thing I do like the Omega or prefer the Omega to the Rolex
@Potatomasherdk
@Potatomasherdk 2 жыл бұрын
Could you review some of the REC watches?
@josetraba6695
@josetraba6695 3 жыл бұрын
Mido multi-star and MidoMultifort and a RADO Diastar. All vintage and need service can you recommend a reputable watchmaker? I'm in NYC.
@andrewstohr
@andrewstohr 4 жыл бұрын
If you want to get rid of a watch buy Rolex. If you intend on keeping a watch, buy Omega.
@90210Skye
@90210Skye 4 жыл бұрын
Translation: If you want a watch that keeps its value or appreciates, buy Rolex. If you want a watch that depreciates the moment you leave the AD, buy an Omega (you have to keep it🤓).
@andrewstohr
@andrewstohr 4 жыл бұрын
@@90210Skye You're not wrong. I'd just rather have a watch I enjoy than a watch I'm using for its cash value. My portfolio, properties and job are where I grow my money, not my watch collection. And outside of a convention or my friends who also collect watches, I've never had a single person recognize if I'm wearing a Rolex (or any brand really). So the idea of a status watch doesn't appeal to me anymore. I'll admit when I was younger I bought Rolex for that reason but I did manage to grow a bit. If you want to buy a watch becaue it won't lose value (there isnt anything wrong with that), do your really care about the watch and what it can do, or do you care about the brand?
@90210Skye
@90210Skye 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrewstohr It is possible to like Rolex not just for its status. People stereotype Rolex fans as purely status seekers who have no appreciation for watches in general; not saying that that's you. Let's not kid ourselves. All luxury watches are bought for status; Omega included. It's just a matter of degree. If we really only cared about timekeeping, we would all have $100 quartz watches.
@Mastertheologian
@Mastertheologian 4 жыл бұрын
@@90210Skye Not true at all. I don't buy a Baume & Mercier, a Longines, an IWC, a Lange for their "status". Most people I know that are not into watches won't recognize any of these names. Even so, I buy them. I appreciate the moviment, the shape, the bezel, the finish. In a word, the craftmanship. I buy a nice watch for no other than me.
@andrewstohr
@andrewstohr 4 жыл бұрын
@@90210Skye When I said status I was referring to my perceived status from my colleagues and others. I don't buy watches for that reason anymore. Its hard for me personally to like Rolex because with few exceptions they have little I personally value in watch. Honestly there is no bad reason to buy a watch. As long as it makes the buyer happy.
@jumboJetPilot
@jumboJetPilot 4 жыл бұрын
My Omega SMP, automatic, steel bezel has never missed missed a beat in nearly 22 years and looks shockingly new.
@Celestias
@Celestias 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely piece of treasure! Cherish it!
@jumboJetPilot
@jumboJetPilot 3 жыл бұрын
Celestias I sure do and I will forever! Cheers!
@mikem597
@mikem597 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant review! I have had the Rolex "Hulk" for a short time, and just got the Omega Diver 300M. Side by side, the Omega does seem to be the better watch. Great looks, great feel on the wrist, extremely accurate, and very legible. But, you are correct: There is "Something" about the Rolex. Solid as a bank vault, excellent bracelet, beautiful workmanship, and a certain cachet the Omega has not yet acquired. Daily wearing? I'll take the Omega.
@nojoom290
@nojoom290 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, does the Omega watch have white gold applied to the hand and indexes? Thank you
@Viallineo
@Viallineo 4 жыл бұрын
From a horological perspective, the Omega Seamaster is a great watch but I would still go for the Rolex Submariner. For me, it’s better looking.
@MrKacperk
@MrKacperk Жыл бұрын
You must be blind then.
@0nemanartis430
@0nemanartis430 9 ай бұрын
@@MrKacperkthats a matter of perspective and a preference, i personally prefer omegas but you cant judge people down on what they prefer...
@rosshilton
@rosshilton 3 жыл бұрын
The lever escapement, which is used in the vast majority of watches, was invented some 250 years ago by Thomas Mudge. Although it has been adopted universally, it has one fundamental flaw; it requires oil. That means regular servicing. In the 1990s Omega were looking for a product differentiator. They bought the rights to use the co-axial escapement of George Daniels, an English watchmaker who had been pedalling his invention around the watch world since the late 1960s. The supposed advantage of this escapement was the lack need for lubrication. This was seen as the answer to low maintenance quartz watches, especially the new eco drive models, which required zero lifetime servicing. Omega fitted it into the 2500 movement and all hell broke loose. The first problem was Pallet Fork Shifting. A slight shift in the escapement and it was enough to bring everything to a halt. It occurred whenever a watch contain the movement faced a shock. This was a result of poor testing in development and omega had to come up with a new shock system that stops the balance wheel from moving sideways under shock. No sooner had this problem been resolved than another one reared its head. Lubrication. With the Mudge escapement lubrication is needed to avoid wear on sliding parts. In theory the co-axial escapement doesn’t slide therefore it should need no lubrication. But any good engineer will tell you that impact involves slide and slide involved impact. I worked as an engineer in the tribology area where this is well recognised. Omega watches were now stopping not due to Pallet Fork Shifting, but due to something else. It turned out to be the impact itself. The Lubrication on the Mudge system not only reduced wear, it absorbed impact. Without it the coaxial escapement was hammering itself to pieces. The answer was two fold: slow down the beat speed and add lubrication. The beat speed determines a watches long term accuracy. The faster the beat the more accurate the movement (and the smoother the second hand movement). Omega had to drop it to 25,200 from 28,800. That was NOT a good move. Adding lubrication was a problem because the movement was not designed for it. Omega found they needed 30 oiling points on the 2 tier coaxial escapement. 10 on the escape wheel and 20 on the intermediate escape wheel teeth. So much for an oil free serviceless movement! And during that time watch lubrication improved to the point where watches could go for at least ten years without a service, making the whole point of the coaxial movement debatable.
@Brian-ee1gx
@Brian-ee1gx 2 жыл бұрын
Good break down. Those in the know are well aware that Omega's use the co-axial escapement amounts to not much more than a marketing gimmick, with some drawbacks and no real advantages over a traditional Swiss lever movement. The watches will have to go back to Omega for servicing unless you are able to find an Omega co-axial certified watchmaker locally, and servicing won't come cheap with all of those extra oiling points on the escapement which require a high power microscope and extreme precision. One big unknown is how the movements will hold up over time, as they haven't been out there long enough to gauge yet. The early Omega co-axial movements had issues with rapid wearing down of the teeth on the escape wheel.
@thewatchnoob7880
@thewatchnoob7880 3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding Video watchfinder, & I couldn’t agree with you more!
@nortonyeung5818
@nortonyeung5818 4 жыл бұрын
Possibly the best video I have ever watched about watch brands. Full stop. Well done!!
@diegobittar7425
@diegobittar7425 4 жыл бұрын
If there is a future for Emmys on youtube programs, Watchfinder would win it by far.
@NathanChisholm041
@NathanChisholm041 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I doubt that very much! There's far better channels out there plus the average man couldn't give a shit about watches.
@flagstaffsnowboard3911
@flagstaffsnowboard3911 4 жыл бұрын
I have an Omega Planet Ocean and I love it. I did owned a sub previously and kinda love it, what I hated the most was that people asked me more than one time if is "real". I liked Rolex because of the name and nothing more, I like Omega because I like their watches.
@johnpatricklopez
@johnpatricklopez 3 жыл бұрын
This was a long long time ago when my cousin went here in Manila and found fake Rolex and Omegas. He bought the Omega because he said nobody will believe that he got a genuine Rolex watch. To think they’re a family who can afford and he still thought people will think the Rolex is fake.
@bighands69
@bighands69 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody was asking you was it real. You must have been shoving it in their faces.
@flagstaffsnowboard3911
@flagstaffsnowboard3911 3 жыл бұрын
@@bighands69 clearly you never owned a Rolex.
@keheaven
@keheaven Жыл бұрын
£3700 for the Omega in 2019 and £4800 in January 2023. Thats some 'inflation' right there.
@jerryaowen
@jerryaowen 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting video .. thanks!
@JohnDoe-jf5mi
@JohnDoe-jf5mi 3 жыл бұрын
"Doesn't that dull the alure?" No. I don't want things I can't have.
@SimulatorWhiz
@SimulatorWhiz 3 жыл бұрын
Then you are not human
@jasondads9509
@jasondads9509 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, they put ads on their ads
@bi5048
@bi5048 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what film emulsion in that camera. Velvia or Provia...
@stephenpatton8690
@stephenpatton8690 4 жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me what he means by "residuals"? I am new to high end watches and looking at the seamaster. Any advice from those more experienced would be most welcome!
@ZeroSOFInfinity
@ZeroSOFInfinity 4 жыл бұрын
Owned No Date subs - twice. Sold then after a month or 2. Cant "speak" with them. On the other hand, bought a SM300m blue few months back. Still wearing it now. Planning to get the white dial and the 007 LE in the future. Says much about Rolex and Omega.
@mattpaulson8420
@mattpaulson8420 4 жыл бұрын
Found the Reichmont employee
@MarcoCaifan87
@MarcoCaifan87 4 жыл бұрын
I recently went to Las Vegas and tried purchasing an Air King or Submariner at three different Rolex retailers with zero luck. Eventually I ended up at the Omega boutique and purchased a Seamaster 300m Co-axial. I’m satisfied with my purchase, yet I still have that itch for a Rolex...
@willsroman
@willsroman 4 жыл бұрын
take a look at the 41mm date-just. blue sunburst dial on jubilee /w fluted white gold bezel. insane.
@Justdisco2
@Justdisco2 2 жыл бұрын
You made me part with £4100.00 for this Omega, what a great call.
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