I commented this a while back. I don't know if you monitor comments, but in season 5 there is a 2-parter that will be out of sync with your 2 episode format. It's not obvious because the episode names are "In Purgatory's Shadow" and "By Inferno's Light". If you want to watch them together you can watch the episodes either side of them together too, I've double checked and there are no spoilers whichever way you watch them. If Ollie doesn't read comments but has mods or patreon users that talk to him, please pass it along.

DS9 sometimes gives us a great new character only to kill them off...

@@jasoncaldwell5627 ... "and then they did it again." :D

@@jasoncaldwell5627 RIP Weyoun.

I mean, we'll see Jeffrey again no doubt. That mad lad loves playing assholes in Trek, and is always so good at it.

@@VieVentar We do see him play another character later in DS9 i think (I think at least two - one is a holodeck or dream sequence character). And he also played at least 1 on Voyager and I think two or even THREE on Enterprise.

He is so good this episode!!!

Hard to believe he's also Brunt: SCA.

@@jasoncaldwell5627 FCA - Ferengi Commerce Authority

I'm pretty sure they reused the painting of future Paris from that episode in this one!

@@jasoncaldwell5627 yes which was used in Star Trek 6 (1991) out the window of the President's office. EDIT: And I think probably used in We'll Always Have Paris.

@@sarcasticstartrek7719 Good eye. paramount never lets a good painting sit idle for too long. I wouldn't be surprised if it got modified (a common practice) for later use on Voyager or Enterprise. Just remove the tower....maybe add a bridge or something moving (another common practice- particularly with the Cardassian Capital painting).

One of my favorite virus episodes of sci fi too. Our hero didn’t come up with a cure in an hour like normal - and the cure didn’t save the current victims! So much more realistic.

Yeah I don't see Trivean as a bad guy at all he was just doing his job and stopping his people from suffering the only way he could.

DS9 REALLY makes the best of location shoots- in both of these episodes- though in The Quickening, everything seems so BIG. The VFX of the sunrises up trough the matte paintings were beautiful. Makes you wonder what those people once had.

> Yeah I don't see Trivean as a bad guy at all he was just doing his job and stopping his people from suffering the only way he could. @@RolyPolyOllieReactions It's a sad realisation and something that DS9 does more than once - life is very grey, not black and white. Trivean was doing only what he knew he could do - alleviate suffering. If something is 100% fatal then let them go comfortably. There's a modern day "culture war" over this brewing. Doctors have a thing "to do no harm". But that can be taken in lawyer talk to mean "keep them alive as long as possible by any means possible". "do no harm" is not the same as "do what is right by the patient". and "right" can be interpreted in 1000 different ways. I don't have the answers to that and I don't pretend to. But I do know that watching this episode, I do at least *understand* Trivean. He is a character to be sympathetic toward, not hostile. imo. im 42. my mother was a nurse (retired now). In the 70s when she was in trauma / casuality wards, she has told me there'd be times when someone was so badly mangled - industrial accident, being run over at the chest etc - that the Consultants would ask everyone else except the Matron (head nurse) of the ward to leave the room - whilst Consultant, Matron and Doctor remained. When they went back in, the patient would have died peacefully and of "natural causes". What actually happened was the heads of surgery, medicine and nursing agreed "there's no way" and ... "assisted the person" into peace via and injection. Obviously this was never "official" and technically under UK law would be some sort of murder / manslaughter charge. And these days it's not possible to do (legit, if anyone is worried - it's not possible these days). I cannot say or not say what was right or wrong in those situations. I do know that if i was faced with 100% [shit life forever, and it'll only get worse until the day you die] - I'd like the ability to make my OWN decisions. And that is not evil. And neither was Trivean. I can imagine some circumstances where I'd be grateful for a Trivean.

Yeah, one of the best Julian episodes. And Dax was better here than usual, her pointing out Julian's arrogance was scorching but undeniable.

@@silikon2 But she's not a bitch about it- she's on his side 100% for the support- and tough love- that he needed just then. Sometimes, it's only a good friend that'll tell you your fly is down, y'know?

Omg, I remember the monthy release vhs tapes. Our local video store had a lot of fans so they would get it in every month and we'd have to rush to reserve it asap.

@@stackels97l use to reserve a copy to buy at the video store. I remember on the way home the levels of excitement were different depending on the episode description on the back. It was the cover of a DS9 tape 4.4 Little green men/Starship Down. That got me into paying $40 for the uk imports.

Omg it was like £13 for two episodes!!! The bad old days!😂 The artwork for the Voyager VHS tapes was lovely though.

I want that mug.

​@@jasoncaldwell5627 I think there was a limited production run of that mug. I don't know if it was official merchandise or if it played the song when you tipped the mug.

@@Tylerpierre99 i recall going to Quark's Bar at the old MGM Trek Experience and not finding one. I still have some isoleniar rods though.

Funny, I was just thinking they should have shown some blood on the blades. They didn't need decapitations, but a little blood would have gone a long way- particularly when Sisko was cut.

​@@jasoncaldwell5627 I'm not expert but I was around when the episode aired and TV back then was a lot more "mediated". What you could or could not show before certain timeslots (and this could depend on if you were "cable" or not - "affiliate" or not) or in my case in the UK, would mean you have stuff edited for violence/blood as TNG/DS9 were shown at 6pm on Wednesdays on BBC2 - directly AFTER kids programming (Cartoons - teenage turtles etc) finished at 6PM on BBC1 - it meant this episode could be aired in its full, without cuts of entire shots of blood on a corpse. It DOES mean, though, that it is "too clean" and "too unrealistic" - like, how bad can the Jem'Hadar be if any random person can kill them with a bloodless punch? These days on streaming or blu-ray or such, it's easier to show blood and violence. And TBH Trek CAN do it (TNG Conspiracy, TNG Yesterday's Enterprise, TNG Redemption, TNG Genesis) but that single shot that is 4 seconds long - if it is the centre-piece of an action/mystery plot - if it has to be cut for [geographical and cultural audience issues], it can destroy an episode. Way of the Warrior does this, too, btw.

@@sarcasticstartrek7719Apparently the First snapping his subordinate’s neck was cut for UK showings.

@@BEBruns I can believe that - 6pm on Wednesdays after kids' shows ...

@@BEBruns might have been on the BBC but it was shown in full glory on Sky One, I remember it.

Prince Humperdink, who was on DS9!

How could ANYONE hate Weyoun? Of all the make Vorta, he's the least punchable.

@@jasoncaldwell5627 There's that lady Vorta from The Ship - she was quite nice.

@@sarcasticstartrek7719 Polite, but not nice. When the very first thing they say is a lie, the rest of the relationship can only go downhill.

@@jasoncaldwell5627 True. In fact, I'm thinking back - other than Eris (the first one we meet in season 2) who is playing the role of "victim" and thus overly sympathtic - I think I'd pretty much like to go drinking with ANY Vorta. Assuming they weren't here to enslave me to The Dominion. Every single one seems to be interesting and have their own unique personality quirks - Eris ("The Jem'Hadar"), Borath ("The Search"), Keevan ("later episode"), Yelgrun ("later episode") and Luaran ("later episode") each had their own traits, their own ... personality. I like how the Vorta are seen as individuals. Even the Jem'Hadar have individual personalities that we come across. Each is a person. Which makes their "growth" and "usage" all the more sad, in context.

My favourite is when he goes blue XD

We've already seen him a few times as Brunt

@@Calzaki Yeah, it was a LONG time before I realized that was Combs. The prosthetics are part of it, but he plays that character so differently.

@@silikon2 I love that there's actually an episode where he plays both Weyoun and Brunt in the same episode. Unfortunately they were never in the same scene though, THAT would have been crazy cool.

It's insidious... Just like the Federation.

It's great to see that the Jem Hadar serve as much by choice and pride as anything. It's very much what Dave FILONI brought to the Clones in Star Wars. The slaves are often ahead of their masters.

WEYOUN IS MY DUDE! Jeffrey Combs!

I have heard that before! I have a friend who is a massive Sabaton fan

I. Hope. Your. Having. A. Good. Time

................ Why. All. The. Extra. Periods? Trying to. Be. Shatner?.

It's not the first tho! He also plays Brunt in earlier episodes!

@@RolyPolyOllieReactions lol is that right well it was the first time I met him and he is a riot.

I suddenly thought that too, but I think I heard somewhere there are Provinces where many people don't know French that well. I don't know what Province he's from.

@@ThomasReeves-s7u French is an official language in Canada. If you want to work in the government, you have to speak it. When you go to school as a kid, French is one of the classes. It is not forced on you beyond that. So I can say: Mon Dieu, Je parle Anglais seulement! BUT! Ollie should know better.

@@PJAvenger I knew it was one of the official languages, but I guess I thought there were some rural Anglo areas anyway where they're pretty lapsed after High School.

@@ThomasReeves-s7u You guess you thought? How do you choose your next sandwich? I guess a Big Mac but I thought a Whopper? I'll leave you alone now, I have to darn socks.

@@PJAvenger I like to hedge. Or I'm reflecting on the uncertain and probabilistic nature of life.