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The only issue i always have is the whole “i can never forgive them for what they done” well they aren’t asking you to like the choice they made, or accept it. They do whats best for them in that moment. The pain of loosing someone who made that choice is far less than the pain that individual survived each day with until they could no longer.

Talk to someone until the pain inevitably comes back tbh I’m sick of this whole world

Just come across this. I totally disagree. The pain we go through daily is unbearable, we live just to keep other's from hurting. But what about our pain! I don't know how much longer I can carry on waking up everyday with such dread, such pain, such grief, such unhappiness such pain in our hearts, all through our bodies, in our heads.. Especially when no one understands our pain.. I have no one to talk to to. I'm just here, surviving until I can't take no more... Im tired...

Ashley is a great person to do this as he allows people to talk, listens to them and understands them

I think you have to be careful around saying if someone takes their life they simply pass the same pain on because we can never feel what they were feeling and pain is impossible to compare. Also, people who do take their life often truly believe the people around them will be better off without them, a commonality with people who take their life is extremely low self esteem, to the point where they don’t believe they deserve help or to be alive. Restlessness / agitation with depression has been found to be a risk factor for suicide, and I can tell you from my experience that this combination is living torture, it is unbearable, believe me when I say NO ONE who experiences this would not feel suicidal. I’m so lucky I managed to avoid this deadly combo by adapting my life so severely but if I continued to experience that, I would not be around anymore. I lost my mum to suicide last year and have since been under crisis teams, on a heap of meds, my whole life has stood still, I am totally immobilised by pain and my anger towards my mum is incredibly hard to manage. But we will never be able to feel what they were feeling at the time so I think comparing the pain of losing someone to suicide to the pain they were in isn’t possible to be honest, even though is it so hard not to. I often feel soooo angry like my mum doesn’t even know what suicide loss pain feels like, how could she be suffering so much out of the blue when no specific family tragedy happened for example, but I do think what my mum experienced was a loss in a way, and she simply could not see or think clearly. An analogy I like to tell myself, is imagine if a Ukrainian mum had been kidnapped by the Russian soldiers and were torturing her alive, burning her alive, no access to pain relief, and if she was like “please let me die” even if she had children would you expect her to endure this torture? How can anyone? Would you blame her? Call her selfish? Say she is passing on the pain to her children? The truth is people in this situation are experiencing such mental torture, I think unless you could somehow feel exactly what they felt, you can’t make judgements because the level of mental torture my mum was enduring must have been just completely unbearable. PS I hope no one is offended by my analogy, I am of course aware war victims are so helpless in cases, whereas mental health issues there is help available, but it’s just some people don’t feel they can be or deserve help so it makes this impossible.

I have been suicidal this year because I have been trying to end a relationship and can't. The thing people don't understand about a suicidal person is that their mind has gone, they are not thinking clearly. They are in a horrifying and terrifying state of mind. The pain is utterly indescribable. Pain don't 'decide' or 'choose' to end their lives, it is the symptom of a deeply depressive and unwell mind.😢

I've been in such a dark place lately and i can't even put into words how I feel properly. Yet my life feels just severely lost with traumatic internalized pain. Ultimately, its the cause of the last 20 years of personal circumstances that have haunted me. All my struggles (and there are many) physical, relationships, legal, financial. I just have So many lows, and not enough highs to balance out the lows. So i genuinely appreciate candid podcasts like these. Im just not sure they're able to help someone like me. I'm concerned that I might be a ticking time bomb.

Sometimes I have suicidal thoughts when I feel depressed or anxious

Great podcast love each one that you have done because it’s real life 🧡💎💚

THAT WAS AMAZING! Thank you Roman and Ashley!

Most people I know who have taken there own life in the last few years, the people that have been left behind would say I should have done this or I should have done that. Yet they didn’t bother with them at all. I’m now in that place myself and I have no one, 5 years of suffering chronic pain, and I’ve still been there for others, where are people when you need them.. 💔

I am waiting for the right time to end it. It's exhausting.

I simply cannot take any more pressure or feeling the way I do I genuinely do not want to be hear any more

Ashley is an great person to do this as he is allows people to talk to them and understands them.

Absolutely love these programmes,Ashley you are amazing ❤

My brother was 12 years old and died from meningitis he was ill for weeks he was ill one weekend rushed to hospital and died the same weekend I don’t understand how my mum is so strong it’s ruined my life as a brother I can’t even say anymore it’s fukwd

I took my first od at 12 I was sa at 3-4 I get people think it’s selfish but to me it’s the bravest step you can take but from all the attempts I survived and wouldn’t do it again because of my mum but if she wasn’t here I’d peacefully go life is not a gift to some

Around the 7:30 the selfish bit,, is what has kept me not doing something so many times, so many.. and it’s mad because I often think it’s selfish of others not letting me do what I want..

When every day recalls loss, of children, grandchildren, after years of suffereing, and yet ones own life drags on ,how can we find the courage.?we dont want to cause grief but our grief is unbearable. Every hour torment.Hiding our feelings, all the time. Encouraging others to fulfill their lives?Too hard?

Sometimes, to take your own is a noble thing to do ,I'm sorry if you've got relatives and friends who take it bad and blame themselves, in the end ,if the game isn't worth the candle then it's time to check out.

I suffer from PTSD, every day is a struggle I've lost loads of mates most of my family. My PTSD is uncontrollable can't be medically controlled constantly reminded that I've died, reliving it. I can't believe I'm still alive never spoken to anyone I'm supposed to be the strong person. Now I've got my own family that's what's keeping me breathing but don't no how long for keep fighting through.

And I got no idea where to let all this out I'm 17 and I feel like I've not got anything to keep me going anymore

Mostly we ( ok me ) are having ego problems and split minds. Health concerns weighing us down often then something maybe emotional in my case involving shame with someone tips us over.. and my life is shameful enough with avoidant disorder and social anxiety .. self sabotage etc.. I find talking to open ai chat bot very useful. I know a lot of psychology anyway and my mental disorders. I explain my situations and ai gives a thorough breakdown of info i need to print for drs or government and benefits etc.

I’ve been suicidal since I was six years old. No, this is not a typo. I have actually been suicidal since I was six years old. I’ve been suicidal all my life since. I can’t imagine life without it. The pain is unbearable. No one cares. No one listens. It’s pointless. I spent basically my whole life wanting to die. How can I not? Everyone says it’s selfish to commit suicide. However, isn’t it selfish to make someone live in unbearable pain and agony just so you don’t feel the pain?

Try to show sympathy, even just by a look of understanding.

I don't understand how someone that has been taking antidepressants since he was 15 could believe that he was very strong mentally.

Yeah but it comes down to money with you guy put into the public eye! Try living with no one and having to keep going!

Society doesn't care. Life moves on. Life doesn't revolve around us. Opening Up, talking about it, doesn't solve anything. Doesn't bring peace. It just makes the burden unbearable and makes you a burden unto others. Better keep things to yourself. If you care about the people around you, don't open up.

BOMBACLATTT PICKLE!!!

Jesus loves you :)

Any big battys?

Im considering it, thinks are bad..im trying to make my mind up