He had a soft spot for you!

how lovely. what a memory.

Have Taylors in my tree too also some in Black Patch. I can relate to your story as I live in Australia (Dad emigrated here from UK) and my Grandad was born 'illegitimate' and was brought up seeing his birth mum sometimes and his Dad started a new family the next year unfortunately, so there was secrecy around everything. I am a Cooper with Stanley, Ayres, Taylor, Broadway and a bunch of others. I'm sure we're distant cousins! Kushti bok!

I've got Foster,Jenkins I don't know if anybody has come across any

All them families where together for years along with shaws and lovells are all black face Rom and where part of the Romany gypsy lore society in other words the original real Roms

@@jackiemoon4587 Cushti Bok to you too friend

@Romchav my next door neighbour was a lovell. Gave up his gypsy roots and became a london cabbie. But he was a hard man with dark features and would do anything for his family.

Proper English Gypsies are welcome in this land. More a part of the ancient world than many of the natives. Doubt many modern immigrants tread the old forgotten paths.

How can you call yourself a Gorja just because your family is settled, it's in the blood line not how you live.

my 2nd great nan was brittania lee, married to my 2nd gg thomas young they lived in Mitcham searles yard

are you Indian Romani

It used to be. I was born in the 70s and spent the 80s and early 90s living the life. Just got harder to sustain the lifestyle.

@@niteblaster1 Ancient Hebrews

@@AntaresBottia You're either Romani blood or you aren't - it's not a lifestyle.

@@sibellakingston52 I am a full blooded Romany and I lived it. I now live in a house but I travel when I can, which is quite often. I've lived all over the UK (and abroad)in the days when it was authentic, not like it is these days with all its red tape. Today's generation are imitation rather than art. My kin are the Bottons, Lee's, Dighton's, Smith's, Penfolds.

john james l'm sorry, but where have you been? In Russia all drugs in their hand. Just negative.

I AINT CARRYING WAGONS EVERY WHERE

Thanks for sharing! Was wondering who the family was.

Are you allowed sharp things where your staying ?

That's the different between Irish Travellers and Romani.

Tally paige my grandad asked me to do this as he can't read or write he said we are romani not the travellers yes the old days have gone and the others are new age,and them that live in vans who are dirty

Tally paige the rubbish and shit at appleby is caused by 30,000 gadji visitors so come see for yourself not listen to folk who don't know shit from piss

*cough cough* hello.

Evesham find old fashioned traveller 70s

So who are the people that leave a mess

@@blissy1 gorger

@Donnell Okafor I said Romani not modern travellers ! Very different !

Nais tuke, pral. 💙💓💚

Not entirely true that loud and proud Roma are not who they say they are. I could ask you if you are a bonafide Roma and lived the life but that is your business. Talk for yourself and not for others. Even if people aren't pure blood or have not lived the life and only just identify with it or proud of their ancestors, good for them. Me, I've lived it to the moon and back, 24/7 and came up smelling of roses! 😄🍀🔥💯

rubbish they said they were earls of little Egypt on a religious pilgrimage you moron

it was likely more of a miscommunication, as many Romani had in fact lived and worked in Egypt.

When they had there dark skin.

@@g.thompson9125 Some had been through Egypt - most had come across Europe.

That's correct it was assumed. But there is a strong Egyptian connection. Some families still obtain the stories of their forefathers. 12 tribes of Dan

I lived as a Gypsy from birth until the early 90s. 13 years. I lived at settlements near family, on sites and abandoned grounds, in woodlands, and in lay-bys on rare occasion. We never traveled in a convoy/pack we did our own thing. Many stay in there own areas like many of my cousins. We went up and down the country and myself in later years have kept moving around and travelling abroad. School never really worked out. Once it's known you are a Gypsy it would prove very testing and the teachers didn't do anything as they were prejudice also and ignorant especially in rural areas unlike cities which are more tolerant from my experience. School wasn't worth the hassle, you'd be fighting much older kids or men on occasion. In any case you learned way more outside the class room and we did to a large degree. I have experienced also the kindness of strangers many times in harder times and I remember when we travelled alone farmers were quite fair. Back in the 80s my father would plot up for tenner a week while working the fields in any season with my mum and we did too as children at our own pace. My father would mostly drive and support our life style while working away on the lorries. My elders were born in wagons and some lived that way for over 40 to 50 years. One of my aunt's and uncles only moved into bricks and mortar well into their 50s during the 90s. That life was getting harder to sustain. As it did for us. It had its hardships but most of the time it was a immeasurable paradise, a real heaven on earth. There is quite a few of the elders buried at Canterbury.

@@AntaresBottia Best wishes

Barbra Cartland was instrumental in assisting some Gypsies achieving Planning Permission on land near Hatfield , Hertfordshire . I've been to that site 30 + years ago but cannot recall it's exact location .

@@AntaresBottia Thanks for sharing. I am of romany descent but live in Australia. My grandad (UK) worked also as a lorry driver to support his family but they stopped travelling in my fathers generation. I mourn that I never will experience the true gypsy lifestyle.

A Rom Roma is plural

My great grandfather was a romany gypsie

Thanks for the poem. Where does it come from ?

Hugh Tierney Tierney It’s song lyrics “ Luke Kelly - Thirty Foot Trailer”

But you aren't Romani.

FORD TRANSIT SPECIALIST Cheers for the info.

I have researched this also. Supernaturally I was first given the clues/glimpses and then learn later in life via books so in my opinion, experience, there is something to this.

Green umbrella no on everything

Hello again! Do you know the true origin? Btw it's not essentially India but long before.

@@AntaresBottia No - it's India. Stop trying to spread false claims. Our DNA, our language, our customs - ALL from India.

@@sibellakingston52 You are being very dramatic. You like most are only going by mainstream studies. Yes, there are very strong roots in India, they are well established, no dispute but like I said it goes back further. I've actually been to India among many other places to learn for myself and I've been lucky enough to meet very influential and old bloodline families who keep their history.

I still have 4% South and North Indian blood in me - my lot are mainly based I Kent. Most of us still have our dark colour (Indian) Again no dispute about our strong roots in India, language - and how it influenced London especially the cockneys in my time in the east end. Unfortunately with history its surface level information - I'm almost 30 years into my research which has been helped along with broader travel, mystery schools, masonic fraternities and some families that keep their history. Again, not downplaying India's long deep rooted heritage that is massively embedded into our culture I'm just saying it goes back further. My roots go back to Persia, Balkans, Germanic, Northern Europe along with many others including my celtic and Greco-Roman roots. Good luck on your journey Sibella

@@AntaresBottia I'm going by science, and my own DNA.

As far as I'm away the Indian Government have declared that all Roma people are of Indian decent.

Yes we are ☺️

Green umbrella sarah kali helped the three Mary's to land in France also we not from little Egypt from rajasthan

Some are rich business people others are piss poor, but you got it wrong about all living in houses. There are whole families living on caravan sites up and down the Country.,

English romanichal very mixed I guess

drop the dead donkey you talk shit Roma come from India

Joseph laundering where you from

Joseph laundrette what

Badromaman1 kaski san

Same with bungali when they say paani it means water we say piss or maybe tea

Joseph laundrette dinoli mush