That is the difference, Ronaldo competes Messi in goal scoring charts only but what about assists,key passes, through balls Messi is the best striker and the best midfielder

Amen

messi did not change anything he still place the same...

@@okaysphe4975 Then look at a game from 2010-11 then look at a game from 2020-21

@@spbspb2413 nahh brahh messi is a central foward on paper but look at he's game play he always drops dip and place passes when he gets the ball sometimes he dribble players and scores he's not like Ronaldo he does not stand in the box

@@spbspb2413 messi: 0 international titles without iniesta and xavi argentina without messi: 14 copas americas and 2 world coups argentina with messi: 0 titles

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@@soyentak5076 I bet you're fun at parties 🙄

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Insert comment of triggered fan of either of the two positions insulting anyone with low iq words and phrases to fell better about himself

what did he say?

Marc Kerhoas lmao it took me a moment to realise the joke...

Marc Kerhoas exactly

😂😂😂😂

Sarcasm at its finest

I´d take ROnaldo. More versatile, better leader.

Did you say more versatile than Messi? Messi can play CAM CF ST LM/W RM/W what are you even saying

"I am mercy... because I told you" -Slaven Bilic

That's a nice shirt bruh

@@trumpjr3940 opinions vary!

'It's a bit ohhverr de top'

A white guy could never pull off that shirt in a million years!

I Made a video asking Nigerians Messi or Ronaldo 🇳🇬 It was quite funny though 😎

@zakaria djouzi Nobody heard in your neighbor maybe... In Portugal he was already becoming a star

@@Nhilzer young ronaldo is a star in portugal? Portugal standard for a star back then is quite low then. Young ronaldo have talent but hes still very raw, his understanding on how to play football is very poor. 1st time hes landing in mu are just showboating and diving, he pisses all his teammate. Ferguson is the real mvp who transform ronaldo into world class players.

if you put messi in the same boat as ronaldo in terms having to graft to get to where they are ronaldo would be the best player of all time because his mentality and determination is unmatched across the footballing world. messi hasn’t had to work as hard as ronaldo has and considering ronaldo got diagnosed with that knee issue at like 29 shows how good he actually is. messi shouldn’t be in the same conversation as the REAL goat

zakaria djouzi imagine accusing the 2 best players of all time of doping, embarrassing, I personally think Ronaldo is better for one reason only, he actually got tested for drugs for how good he played

You guys are really being toxic lmao

@ll ll watch football buddy Messi didn't loose Barcelona did It's not Messi's fault barca conceeded 8 goals 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️fool fan

@@DC-nt4nz Messi is average when under pressure cr7 is a genius in important games, when it matters and in under pressure games

@ll ll so u r admitting that Barcelona hai gangbang ronaldo very hard😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@ll ll so what is the benfit of scoring how many goal even not save his team fucking penaldo fan😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@ll ll hahahah u r such an idiot .after seeing ur comment only one thing comes to mind that ur ass is burning to its peak. U pitu penaldo fan never ever admit that messi is not even better than penaldo but penaldo is not even in his class. Whenever all time top footballer of all time comes here always a discussion of messi ronaldo9,Maradona and pele not ur pissing penaldo

I Made a video asking Nigerians Messi or Ronaldo 🇳🇬 It was quite funny though 😎

shut up

@@Ruoow Why u mad ? cr7 is probably the greatest competitor and athlete football has ever seen. But on the field, nobody can do what Messi does.

@@titouanleroux4304 Maradona did that

messi has won more trophies than ronaldo and is 3 years younger LOL

@@titouanleroux4304 argentina with messi: 0 titles. argentina without messi: 2 world coups, 14 copas americas. Messi let his country down. Cr7 didnt. Real difference

Football investors club. You are 100% spot on.

How is Ronaldo more complete than Messi, lol

@@greaterthanharrowk1679 Short version is, he is not. Messi is twice the player, always has been. Ronaldo fans are largely sychophants.

Messi in full flow blows everyone away, it’s crazy that people think they are on par, yes Ronaldo is an astonishing player but Messi is from another planet, look at he’s career he’s been a team player and stepped up to the plate when needed, look at it this way, you can take Ronaldo out of the team and the team is still pretty good but take Messi out and it’s game over for the team, if Messi left Barcelona it would take a decade to get them back to a descent team.

Well said

I think it was a bit of both. He had definitely simplified his playing style after joining Real, probably because Spanish teams were much more tactical at the time. He needed to start playing more with his head and less with his feet.

he took HGH when he was younger up until 18 to help him grow stronger and faster than everyone else!

TheCelticTiger He took them to help him grow taller than 4ft 5. I don’t know if you’ve seen him now but he’s hardly a powerhouse.

TheCelticTiger the guys never been stronger or faster, he’s goated because his dribbling and iq are better than everyone

@@notagod7804 are you blind have you ever even seen him play ?

@@notagod7804 go educate yourself on the matter and that goes for all of the butthurt Messi fans in the comment section, HGH is starting to be outlawed in sports because there are cases of parents trying to get there kids on it so they can have a ADVANTAGE over the competition, especially in the USA!

Genius? Lol far from it. He is the best dribbler in the world with his incredible low gravity however genius no way!

hog the ball and try to dribble round everyone because he thinks he’s unstoppable. perfect in my eyes. ronaldo is clear

@@tomlequelenec2784 he was unstoppable especially in his prime nw both cr7 and messi are comparable to other great footballers today bt in their prime no one is close to them

@@tomlequelenec2784 Hog the ball? What, are you not supposed to keep possession? This isn't the sport for you bud. Besides, Messi's an elite dribbler, and yes, he's unstoppable. The only way to get the ball off him is to foul him.

@@tomlequelenec2784 What, you don't want him to dribble? He is unstoppable. GTFOH dumbass

Then why doesn't it work when he doesn't have the absolute best players in the world around him... Argentina suck, Messi can't lead a team and get results against the wind. Ronaldo will get results with a Sunday league team behind him.

Some of the things you said don't really matter, and some others are plain wrong. Ronaldo isn't more tactically flexible at all. That Messi only played in possession based systems at Barca has to do with the club's philosophy. Messi is also effective as the #10 in counter attacking teams, as seen at various points with Argentina and Luis Enrique's Barcelona. If the wingers and strikers make the runs, Messi will deliver perfect passes. Ronaldo is arguably less tactically flexible than Eto'o or Robben, never mind Messi. He could play on the right during his United days, but that's only a small part of his career. Since ~2014 he only played as a winger/second striker. Not even as a #9, a role in which he's generally been awful in. It showed whenever he played there for Portugal and was flanked by 2 true wingers. At Real he had Benzema to complement him and do the actual #9 work. It's no coincidence Benzema had his best season in 7 years once Ronaldo left. Messi's ambidexterity is underrated. Maybe he lagged behind Ronaldo on this criterion early in their careers, but nowadays he's able to do things with his weak foot Ronaldo could never do with his strong one. See him vs. Neuer in 2015. The motivator stuff is just rubbish talk. Ronaldo has a history of being a bit of an asshole towards his team mates, even making statements like "if everybody was on my level, we would've won". Of course it's not all black and white, but neither it is with Messi. Critics will be quick to point at pictures of Messi looking down to the ground as proof of bad body language, but they'll ignore the times when Messi shouts and claps and does all of the silly stuff people think make Ronaldo a good leader. The truth is that neither are really captain material like Puyol, Casillas, Ramos, Gerrard, Keane etc. were. That Barca showed bad attitude against Roma, Liverpool or Bayern was on the managers. If the manager is completely clueless, no amount of running and desire will save you. Overhead kicks and "variety of dribbling" are aesthetically pleasing, sure. Still pretty irrelevant. Zlatan is known for his acrobatic finishes & he's good at them because he does taekwondo, but the underlying truth is that he's simply bad with his head. If you score, you score. Ronaldo's clearly better in the air than Messi, but whether his finishes are acrobatic or just simple headers doesn't change anything. Same with the dribbles. The point is to get past the opponent, not to do tricks. Do tricks if they help you, but if you don't need them there's no point to them.

What? Messi wins 47% of his dribblings, Ronaldo wins 59%. Messi hits on 8,9% of his shorts, Ronaldo at 10,1% Messi hits on 8,1 of his free kicks, Ronaldo on 9,4%.

@@bowlchamps37 Where the hell did you get these stats? According to fbref, career stats per 90 minutes: Messi: 5.33 dribbles per game, 66.8% successful Ronaldo: 1.70 dribbles per game, 61.6% successful Messi: 5.20 shots per 90', 45.3% on target, 0.15 goals per shot Ronaldo: 5.79 shots per 90', 37.4% on target, 0.12 goals per shot According to Michel Acosta: Messi's free kick conversion rate: 8.7%. Ronaldo's: 6.1%.

@@bowlchamps37stats from ohio

Hold on to your horses boy.

Hahahahahahahahaah

@@cmac5365 idk why u r laughing lmao he’s destroyed arsenal United city Chelsea spurs in champions league, ppl saying he will struggle in the premier league who will he struggle against Brighton Burnley and Westbrom ?

Biggest injury of career if he goes perm at his age, Ronald On the other hand will become the best player in the league since he left

@@leegent615 Messi’s never had a major injury and he’s been faced by Pepe and Ramos nearly his entire career, 2 of the most aggressive defenders of all-time.

Lewandowski deserved to win it last year

​@@theh0lybible how??? Lewa deserved it 2020, but bcus of Covid, there was no ceremony. Messi was clear in 2021

Keane, Neville, caragher and souness would be the dream

Sam Cook *Wright > Souness*

Keane, Wright and Evra suck off anyone that plays in the premier league lmao.

@@samcook7046 One per team is enough. Keane, Carra, Henry and Mourinho (as a Chelsea backer obvs) would be great to watch

What do you mean. How is that true. This video literally just showed evra, Keane and write saying Ronaldo is better. All who had great careers

Redmond Lee you’ll find that most people that say Ronaldo is better are either legends for the clubs he’s played for or players he’s played with a lot of mutual players and managers will mostly say messi is better than Ronaldo not all of them but the majority from mutuals is always in messi favour

Bullshit!! Ronaldo all day for me

Shane o halloran what makes you believe Ronaldo is better, just for the sake of debate? I personally think Messi is better, and think most do too. He scores more goals and gets more assists per game and is a better dribbler. In big games he’s achieved as well, for which he’s often criticized, such as the 2009 cl final when he overshadowed Ronaldo.

Where the hell is the fact? It's literally a opinion you Messi fangirl 😂

did you not see ronaldo when he was at united??? watch best of ronaldo for man united and you cant say messi is on his level, noway.

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Dinho>>>Both of them.

Oh look a LiVARpool fan hating on ex United player, what a shocker

You don't speak for me Hope this helps

Different play styles and different pace and different teammates

Real Madrid was most definitely not the best team in la liga in 09. He went there fully expecting not to win the league title for a few years

Well messi stays at the best team too for his whole Life so it’s fair to question that and give Ronaldo credit for ben the best in 3 different and difficult leagues in the world

Juventus was the only team that was the best at the time Ronaldo arrived, because 2003/2004 was Arsenal’s invincible year. 2009/2010 had arguably the best team ever assembled in Barcelona. So How exactly is he going to the best team in each league every time?

When Ronaldo left Old Trafford, United were on the peak, at that time utd were better team compared to Real Madrid

Lol "stats don't lie" what an ignorant comment .. 🤣.. Messi fans are rely delusional

He won it also with Modric and Kross don't forget Papa Perez and Referee

Getting nowhere comparing them anyway everyone’s trying to get somewhere with the debate the last 15 years 🤣 they’re incomparable 2 🐐s

But it is, in a way, the only sensible answer. People can bang on all they like, but a lot of these things will just come down to people's individual preferences in what they like most in players, and even that might change from time to time. There is no one greatest player. There's just brilliance of all different kinds and combinations. There's plenty we could take from Messi to make Ronaldo better, and vice-versa. But both are legitimate living legends of the game and paragons of footballing excellence.

The discussion itself should be barred

David Logan it’s a great and enjoyable debate I’ve had so many over the years. In my opinion Messi is better but I don’t think you can say one is greater than the other until they’re both retired. I’ve changed my mind so many times over the years on who’s better but I don’t really care I’m enjoying these two playing at the highest level still because we’ll all miss them when they’re gone. Save that debate for when they’ve both retired! Would be a lot more fun

Ronaldo beats people down the line and sideways, inside for the shot outside for the cross, good end product from both and also great inside the box. Messi will siglehandedly dismantle 2 banks of 4 when he feels like it, won't pull his weight when the goings tough. That is all

The only sane person in the room?

Messi has 2 tournament goals vs top 30 ranked teams This your GOAT?

Facts

playing for real madrid, manchester and juve lol, gtfoh

@@karingahezron2454 after joining united he became one of united best players among that start studded team won a shitload of individual award in 2006 and ballon d'Or in 2008....when he joined real Madrid...real had 1 UCL in this century...now after he has left Real they have 5 UCL in this century...yes I agree he hasn't bin upto that level at Juve but he's 36 very few athletes have his body type and athleticism at that age put some respect on his name

messi also one of the greatest finishers of all time. its more impressive for messi as he is not blessed with the height and build of ronaldo. messi best in history and cr7 top 20

@@danielhucky307 because of his height , Messi has low center of gravity. Because of low center of gravity it is easier for less taller players to dribble and move faster inside the box.

daniel hucky what separates them is international duty and Ronaldo is above him

@@manurazo4947 messi is the all time highest scorer for argentina. also the highest all time assists. won player of the world cup. we're talking about individual accomplishments. messi is well ahead of him. see ppl who love ronaldo are fanboys of his image. everyone had a go at messi when liverpool came back last year. where was ronaldo when ajax beat them. check all team mates stats for each of them. messi makes everyone better. ronaldo just takes goals from his team mates. look at benzema. having his best spell of his career without ronaldo

@@danielhucky307 Messi has 70 international goals in total out of this 34 are in friendlies. Ronaldo has 99 international goals in total out of this 17 are in friendlies. Check out below link for reference :- en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_international_goals_scored_by_Cristiano_Ronaldo en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_international_goals_scored_by_Lionel_Messi

So playing in different countries, teams, evironments, different mentalities, perspectives etc, and never under performing, isn't a straight fact for you?

Jeton Hoxha certainly not. If you’re classing playing in different countries as a fact to claim he’s better then that’s ludicrous. Facts are, goals and assist. And at that, messi is better. Plus winning ballon d’or is just a little something to think about too.

@@jack0511M if you say so

Messi best at dribbling feints and assisting. Ronaldo best at heading, finishing, big game player

@@noahlie3302 well for some people all you have to look at are goals and assists

Hoaxbuster Truth your compelling argument against what I said speaks volumes mush

@@Christian-gq9jg scenes when Messi retires Can't wait because at least his insufferable fangirls like you will stop watching the sport 🍺👍

@@jack-ot8eu I’ve watched messi ruin my team way to many times so I’m not exactly a fan girl, just stating facts. Like I said it isn’t even a debate and if you genuinely think it is then you really haven’t got much of a brain or eye for real football.. you’re probably a united fan if I had to guess still watching highlight vids from 12 years ago crying tears of joy

My god Ur comment .. "take away success" are you for real?? 🤣

I’d pick cr7 at utd anyday again. Messi needs superstars to perform, cr7 ran the show at utd.

Yes that true..

Because he did wanted to take nothing away from Messi. Meaning he also went out of his comfort zone heavily not only Ronaldo.

@@diekop6204 😂😅

Ronaldo once made a hormone... He didn't pay her... 😜

Because it happened. What other player is allowed to take peds (hgh)? Messi medicals are closed so for all we know he still takes them

@@RV103 it's a disease on his bones. My little brother had it and wasn't treated since the beginning like messi and one day he was screaming in pain on his joints he was hospitalized for 15 days taking the medication and shots continued to take the shots until he was out of his puberty cause that's when the disease is more dangerous. Is not some type of enhancements.

Scoring important, title winning goals is way more important than scoring ‘banging solo efforts against Celta Vigo in a 5-1 win. Every year ronaldo has more trophies and more goals than messi despite playing for teams On a similar level. He has also proved in so many different places. Messi is not better but he is still amazing and the second best player of all time.

Peter Cillian Where has this misconception come from this it’s Ronaldo who turns up in the big games not Messi? If G B is right then you’ll be affiliated with United in some way and as a result you’ll definitely remember Messi scoring against Manchester United in both the Champions League finals. Messi is factually the better goalscorer than Ronaldo in every club competition they have both played in so you can’t act like he stat pads against Celta Vigo when Ronaldo did the same thing for 10 years.

@@petercraig4 Messi has more trophies than Ronaldo

Peter Cillian Right so Man U champ final not important, countless real and atletico in la liga, extremely important games not important. Against Juve in 15, watch the game he was thr best player and essentially the reason they scored. He destroyed Boateng and neuer two top,top players in their positions but again sweep under the carpet. Last year he scored a insane free kick against Liverpool but Barca had a calamity when not only did others not step up at all but instead all back line fell asleep, R Madrid have had better midfielders and defenders and a unit better than Barca for many years.

sharky H Cristiano could have been playing with yeovil town but he still would have never ever let them lose a 3 goal lead. Levels bro😂 btw I literally support Ac Milan and have affiliations with man united what so ever

I respect both but c’mon messi is on another platform to everyone else! But I’d love to see him under Pep for one more season

@@mohamedorayith4626 Ronaldo has won 3 different league titles. 5 champions leagues with 2 different teams. World player of the year in two different leagues. The European championships with Portugal. Argentina have had far better players but Messi has not won the copa America

I'd fear for Messi in the English Premier League.

@@James-st9uu Ronaldo hasn't won a treble tho

91 goals in a calendar year for messi

WTF did he do at sporting lol

What an idiot comment .. "seriaA doesn't count" .. you are as delusional like a snowflake.. 🤣.. that's your opinion boy ..