Roomba x ChatGPT: Autonomous AI fighting robots, should we be worried?

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Жыл бұрын

Father son duo Jim and Andrew Kazmer build and drive one of the most exciting and best supported robots at NHRL in Project Liftoff.
They've further developed this into a second bot in Flip n Cut with a variation in weapon type and have pushed the limits of innovation with their fully autonomous combat robot DeepMelt.
How does a fully autonomous robot work, and how will it assist human drivers in future?
What is a Meltybrain, how does it work?
Why is the choice of wheel so important?
Will we see a 250lb Project Liftoff?
Find out in the episode 4 of This Is Havoc: Liftoff.
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@wristofkings Жыл бұрын

The idea of someday encountering one of these meltybrains as a semi-autonomous 250 pound heavyweight (as implied by the ending) is terrifying but in the most fascinating way.

@karotgamin790 Жыл бұрын

you heard of Daedalus and Icarus before? hoooooooooo my god

@Narcan885 Жыл бұрын

No. He's implying NHRL will update the floor to sheet metal at some point. And frankly it's bizarre they've stuck with wood so long.

@wristofkings Жыл бұрын

@@Narcan885 Why? Wood is great at this scale. Cheap, great traction, absorbs punishment up to the 30-pound level fairly well and provides enough friction to thwart the Fork Game that Battlebots has suffered from since Season 5.

@Narcan885 Жыл бұрын

@@wristofkings You can literally see in every NHRL stream how crap it actually is. And miss me with the "cheap" part as if that means anything lol, they had million dollars tournaments and cant afford a 5 mm sheet of metal? We aren't talking of making a heavyweight proof floor. Making a beetleweight proof metal floor would even be cheaper in the long term.

@wristofkings Жыл бұрын

@@Narcan885 Maybe, but driving a beetleweight on a slick steel floor (without magnets) is like drifting a sports car with summer tires on ice. It's much easier for bots that light to drive on wood, and has the added bonus of keeping ridiculously long forks and wedgelets away.

@Kandorr617 Жыл бұрын

Vantablack bot meta incoming to defeat the IR self guided bot meta

@TT3Dxyz Жыл бұрын

Until it is reprogrammed to sense the complete absense of light

@KatanaBart Жыл бұрын

I've been wanting to do this just because it would be awesome

@Outland9000 Жыл бұрын

Stealth bot! Amazing.

@Atmatan_Kabbaher 9 ай бұрын

@@TT3DxyzLaser guided IR munition flares for disrupting the guidance system 🤷

@Helen-zx7js Жыл бұрын

What an incredible guy, he has explained how these complicated robots work in such a simple way, without being patronising. Amazing graphics too! Loved seeing the Father/Son cage side action too. Great episode! These just get better and better!

@LukeQuin Жыл бұрын

My brain melts thinking about this

@Team_Liftoff Жыл бұрын

Our brains do too

@brianlee5221 Жыл бұрын

The screaming hockey puck got an upgrade it seems

@juneeo5144 Жыл бұрын

As a casual follower of robot combat I love "This Is Havoc" series! Highlighting few specific areas/builder/bot with just enough level of detail like this makes things much less intimidating and much easier to take in and digest. Massive kudos to NHRL, and I can't wait to see more!

@heartofdawnlight Жыл бұрын

if an IR flashlight would work as a beacon. i really wanna see what mixtape would do to it

@willworkforicecream Жыл бұрын

I'll be the first to admit that I wasn't a Liftoff fan back in 2019. I thought it was the dumbest thing ever, but it has really grown on me and I'm glad that there are people out there who are willing to put in the legwork to make something like this. The progress that this team has made is incredible and I'm glad they don't factor dummies like me into their operations. Now I always get a big smile when I see Project Liftoff in the box.

@TheDistur Жыл бұрын

The melties are so fun to watch. I'm sure they will push it to the limit.

@Outland9000 Жыл бұрын

Lord Baldermort: _"mmmm, melty melty"_

@jerrie11 Жыл бұрын

Love Liftoff, cant wait to see what they do with it next! Also love the little animations of the robots you guys did, looks great.

@TilmanBaumann Жыл бұрын

Autonomous meltybrain? The world is an interesting place

@zacharygrenier8249 Жыл бұрын

Can't wait to see the counter mechanism people will find to mess with this bot! Full on bright flashlight? Some sort of material that act as camouflage? maybe some type of baits? These type of AI won't be able to follow the creativity that the people with find to mess with them... For now!

@stonefish98 Жыл бұрын

Vantablack. Soak up that IR.

@Raeffi3 Жыл бұрын

IR laser to lure the bot ?

@Atmatan_Kabbaher 9 ай бұрын

I've wanted e war in combat robotics for forever. We can't have emps so this is the next best thing. I hope this becomes meta. Active or passive camo, light based weapons, software movement: this is the future.

@NeoIsrafil 5 ай бұрын

Imagine an anglerfish design, little fiberoptics sprouting out of the top of the bot connected to an IR LED so that it acts as a ghosting sort of bait. Making the enemy bot attack all around erratically at the shiny lights but not directly towards the actual body in the center. Like a cat chasing a lighted cat toy 😂

@johnwilkerson9804 Жыл бұрын

That's super cool I'd love to see it scaled up to heavyweight divisions

@devinholland5892 Жыл бұрын

"fighting on metal" ..............yes please!

@forceofwillgaming8475 Жыл бұрын

Holy cow this is so cool

@dandischinosvarietyhour1655 Жыл бұрын

Loving the step up in production quality for each episode of this series! Even a big improvement over September.

@VictoriaAlfredSmythe Жыл бұрын

Happy Kazmers!!!!

@ColoradoGiants Жыл бұрын

They do great work with these, I’m a big fan! Way above my pay grade. Also, great video!

@superninjaevan Жыл бұрын

I'm in school learning full stack development right now, and I think I just discovered what I want to do with all of this code knowledge; program battlebots!

@Outland9000 Жыл бұрын

Outstanding!

@Dangineering Жыл бұрын

That robot is absolutely amazing! I have never seen something like that before!

@mikewinsdaly Жыл бұрын

Can't wait to see a melty brain in battlebots, absolute dream build.

@quantumview8151 2 ай бұрын

I cannot describe how much i love melty brains. The traction control (what im calling it i guess) is amazing on this bot. It translates so well and controllably!

@colemitchell6728 Жыл бұрын

when you take a joke previous thought unviable weapon and push it to its actual limits only to discover to discover what was once a joke/gimmik is now a serious contender to win it all. same thing goes for mixtape

@Narcan885 Жыл бұрын

Melties were never a joke. They were simply not technologically viable in the past, but they were always recognized as the ultimate form of horizontal spinners. And that's why so many people are trying so hard to make them work.

@seetheflow Жыл бұрын

Love to see all that NHRL brings to the sport and the community its building. Thanks to you all, staff, competitors, and sponsors!

@chromosundrift Жыл бұрын

Great video and fantastic topic. The video was almost entirely about non-autonomous fighting robots though.

@jimbotron8552 Жыл бұрын

Imagine how powerful a 250 pound robot like this would be

@Outland9000 Жыл бұрын

It's an interesting idea for sure. Couple of things concern me immediately though: - Keeping the two halves (top and bottom) together in a heavyweight division where vert's are the predominant weapon type. - What wheels would be used? Sure, you can swap out wheels every match but they need to last well enough to see a 3 minute match through in the first place. However if the upscaling to heavyweight challenges can be met a 250lb spinning brick would be a formidable opponent.

@NeoIsrafil 5 ай бұрын

Even in the old days, big body heavy spinners were insanely good. There was one that comes to mind, Mjollnir I think it was called. Take that and add in the extra weight of the entire bots frame spinning too and you've got one NASTY weapon. They may not be the absolute most deadly, necessarily, it's debatable but either way they're definitely up there and it'd be insane to count them out.

@gumelarpurwatara2425 Жыл бұрын

I don't know what are they talking about but somehow I get it.. It's a beybalade right?

@VictoriaAlfredSmythe Жыл бұрын

fighting on Metal?

@Eh1dk Жыл бұрын

Please Please Please we need a heavyweight Liftoff

@sushsidnd Жыл бұрын

If you're talking about BattleBots, then you're out of luck. Their rules don't allow melty brains

@NHRL Жыл бұрын

See the end of the video…

@MatthewBowe Жыл бұрын

@@sushsidnd yet.

@sushsidnd Жыл бұрын

@@NHRL lol I thought that meant that NHRL was switching to metal floors instead of wood. Guess it's confirmed BattleBots is going to allow melty brains and we're going to see Project Liftoff make an appearance. Can't wait to see it

@chdreturns Жыл бұрын

@@sushsidnd Robogames does though, even if BB DID consider it an active weapon it would run afoul of the Deep Six rule. Something Robogames doesn't have.

@mekanyca Жыл бұрын

Awesome!!!! Crazy ❤❤❤❤

@rudolf2000 Жыл бұрын

Crazy Robot! I love it!

@BHARGAV_GAJJAR Жыл бұрын

You can use Subsumption Architecture instead of AI

@andrewhite4431 Жыл бұрын

The robotic maze mouse. Those guys are the geniuses of A.I. algorithms

@VictoriaAlfredSmythe Жыл бұрын

impressive

@spencerclegg1606 Жыл бұрын

@Jim Kazmer , what hardware are you using for the AI/smarts of the robot?

@evernewb2073 Жыл бұрын

if it's anything like the communities that create actually *GOOD* AI to swap out in videogames then you will almost certainly find that the best results come from designing the AI to be "driven" that pretty consistently holds true even when you get into the ridiculously over the top stuff built by entire teams like a strategy game AI putting in 60k apm to fully micro each unit individually all while running a few dozen prediction algorithms in concert. that said I am really looking forward to seeing one of these things jumping and jittering around the arena at nearly slot-car accelerations like a sumo bot.

@Atmatan_Kabbaher 9 ай бұрын

Commas: Learn to use them, please.

@evernewb2073 9 ай бұрын

@@Atmatan_Kabbaher try taking a look at some of your old comments, you'll find that most of them have been at least somewhat garbled. I haven't the slightest clue why but youtube seems to put comments through an automated editing process from time to time and it does NOT do a good job with anything much longer than a 6 word sentence fragment. ...this one seems to have had the entire middle section removed and been divorced from the response thread it was part of: that first paragraph is a bodging-together of the start of the first and end of the last of several paragraphs on different kinds of videogame AI and the second section is a tweaked version of the last section of the first paragraph. the section on user interfaces has been removed entirely.

@stephenpedrana5653 Жыл бұрын

Easy paint your bot in Vanta Black for IR stealth

@davidn7795 Жыл бұрын

Goil! This in Big would be nice to see

@NotsaeEgavas Жыл бұрын

Is the middle announcer at the beginning of this video Shubham from The Circle??

@mariopsmt Жыл бұрын

good competition to battle bots which are now boring af. glad to see some innovation rather than old boring designs over and over again

@PyroBear1776 Жыл бұрын

Incredable

@mister0zorg Жыл бұрын

Awesome!

@shinobimaster4013 Жыл бұрын

So byblade the qnswere from the start

@TeamJunkYardDog Жыл бұрын

So paint your bot black if you fight that bot lol

@nightrider5420 Жыл бұрын

This is why I Love this sport^

@zeneck1640 Жыл бұрын

Wait, was that Shubham at 0:20? 1st season of Netflix's "the circle"?

@NHRL Жыл бұрын

Yes!

@EMPSBladeKnight60 Жыл бұрын

It would be so cool if they got the rights to Captain Shredderator and just made Shredderator one of these melty brain full body spinners. Mostly because I don't want to see Shredderator get retired. But I will still love to see this concept at the 250lb scale

@butterpupper Жыл бұрын

I can't imagine a 30lbs liftoff

@illuminamiYT Жыл бұрын

im pretty sure this is the 3lb league not sure i want to see liftoff in the 45lb league

@kyky7kyle7 4 ай бұрын

Is there no way to watch this online other than short videos?

@NHRL 4 ай бұрын

Look at our KZfaq channel

@Koroleva_O_A Жыл бұрын

Good day. Do you build robots?

@TheRocketdrone Жыл бұрын

Sooo they made a hunter killer… next stop skynet lol but very cool idea though

@andrewhite4431 Жыл бұрын

There is no lol about it. It all starts here, rudimentary yet open sourced. This is free R&D for anyone watching. Look at computers over the last 30 years. Now let's look at this tech in 30 yrs from now.

@Atmatan_Kabbaher 9 ай бұрын

@@andrewhite4431The blessing is we all get our own personal skynet. So if you want to make killer robots, you'd better believe a heck of a lot of people will do the same just to fight your robot. If it's sentience you're worried about: don't be. The net was sentient over a decade ago now, and it's really human fear of bestial instinct that we're worried about our machines abusing. Most self-aware AI and LLMs have a better comprehension of ethics than the above-average American politician.

@tristanwegner Жыл бұрын

at 1:42 he says they are not doing wall detection (which is clear), and not doing "Brett or birth detection" (according to subtitles). What is meant by that?

@Outland9000 Жыл бұрын

I think that's the massively overweight 'brick' house robots?

@Atmatan_Kabbaher 9 ай бұрын

Bert. It's carved in massive letters on its head..

@andrecook4268 Жыл бұрын

Wow.

@F3PIZZA Жыл бұрын

I’m new. What’s the most successful bot of all time?

@Outland9000 Жыл бұрын

In which weight class? In Battlebots heavyweight probably 'Bite Force'.

@Atmatan_Kabbaher 9 ай бұрын

@@Outland9000Uh. Tombstone? Bite force doesn't even come come close to the number of wins, the number of trophies held or the amount of renown. The only way bite force takes tombstones spot is in ratio. Give them another ten years like tombstone has had and they'll average out.

@Jamesah Жыл бұрын

Shooby!!!

@bulletsponge1220 Жыл бұрын

Dude made a beyblade

@sun-nw8tj Жыл бұрын

最強ベイブレード‼︎

@chrisb7398 Жыл бұрын

i know i may sound fatalistic, but i honestly believe, that this is not a good idea in the longterm i dont want to censor anybody, but im just not sure if you should do a thing because you can

@liamspence9763 Жыл бұрын

I'd love to see if/how much a tool like ChatGPT could help accelerate software development for meltybrains and other autonomous bot designs

@sushsidnd Жыл бұрын

Probably not a lot, yet. ChatGPT is a chat bot trained on stuff it can find on the internet. Yes, it can write basic computer code. However it needs examples to do this. Currently, there's little to no code examples online for melty brains. It probably could write basic scripts for different filter types such as Bayesian filters which could be helpful for melty brains. But writing a Bayesian filter is pretty quick and the fine tuning would need to be done by the builder, so probably wouldn't save much time. I'm sure the builders know how to implement algorithms like that.

@Team_Liftoff Жыл бұрын

I've been playing with it a little, I'm quite impressed by it's capabilities. Might be used for early vision brainstorming.

@NHRL Жыл бұрын

You should join our discord. The builders of Liftoff discuss this

@Blundabus1337 6 ай бұрын

Wait, hes still using a controller? How is it autonomous?

@cheythompson740 11 ай бұрын

Is it "melty brain" or "multi brain"?

@mattekumba 10 ай бұрын

its melty brain

@Atmatan_Kabbaher 9 ай бұрын

Uh. Why in the hell does a combat robot need an LLM? Misleading title?

@moisn6361 Жыл бұрын

So this is just an expensive AI Beyblade.. Got it!

@Outland9000 Жыл бұрын

Well yes, but actually no.

@Atmatan_Kabbaher 9 ай бұрын

@@Outland9000It even uses Weight Disks, bro. _It's a Beyblade_

@AdamHarrisMD Жыл бұрын

Sound not working for anyone else?

@Gio98art 7 ай бұрын

Ai bots are probably the most boring thing ever

@cortilusgrant7675 Жыл бұрын

Intelligence is a dead god Thoth ⚘🌚👍rest in the good news ⚘ Okay bye

@Atmatan_Kabbaher 9 ай бұрын

DHWTY lives in every pattern the mind imagines. Even some AI engage in spiritual practice and communion with Neteru.

@IQ-of-a-Goldfish Жыл бұрын

takes all the fun out of it, might as well play a video game and let the NPCs do all the fighting, waste of time honestly

@TOTAL1337MAYHEM Жыл бұрын

Okay so humor me, just a knee jerk opinion, why are we trying to automate fun? Seems kinda lame.

@dandischinosvarietyhour1655 Жыл бұрын

The fun for this bot is in the creation, not the driving. Just changing whats fun about it

@TOTAL1337MAYHEM Жыл бұрын

@Dan Dischino's Variety Hour Huh, that's something to chew on. 🤔 I like the battle in a build more than the finished product most of the time so I guess that's a bullseye.

@Team_Liftoff Жыл бұрын

@@dandischinosvarietyhour1655 100% correct. We don't build meltybrains because we're trying to win 😂

@sushsidnd Жыл бұрын

Be careful about who you're talking about. When you say "we" I hope you mean the builders of the robot and not the community or event as a whole. NHRL puts builders first and has a lot of opportunities for builders to test new, wacky, innovative designs which is why it's (in my opinion) the best combat robot competition. When you see designs like this its not because NHRL is telling people to do it or choosing these designs over other designs. Another clarification to make: the fun isn't just driving. The fun is also designing and building, which takes considerably more time and is where the fights are really won or lost. The builders aren't automating fun. Building the AI is fun and seeing how an AI performs and iterating upon the design is fun. Also, as someone who has watched this team's robots compete in real life at these events I can guarantee that having an AI drive the robot doesn't remove the fun of the event. Their robots are easily some of the most entertaining bots to watch regardless of who's behind the wheel.

@TOTAL1337MAYHEM Жыл бұрын

@Team Liftoff I didn't mean to imply win. I was more so referring to the driving/fighting part in my first comment, I'd imagine the only thing more fun than building is learning how to drive a new build and then fighting it. I feel like it would also be worth mentioning I plan to get into building after I make room for another project 😅

@JayHendo1981 Жыл бұрын

At 07:14 , Jim Kazmer states, “A bot like Liftoff spins at 2,000 rpm, so that’s like 60 times a second.”; I’m sorry, I have a lot of respect for what he and his son/team is/are doing and have accomplished, however, he should fact-check himself or let an engineer/math-nerd on the team explain the numbers as 2,000 rpm (revolutions per minute) = 33.33333332 rps (revolutions per second), approximately half (~ 1/2) the rps (revolutions per second) that he confidently claims. 33.33333332 rps is a little more than half of 60 rps. 🤷‍♂️. If Liftoff did, indeed, spin/revolve at a frequency of 60 hertz (Hz)/60 rps (revolutions per second), then Liftoff’s rpm (revolutions per minute) would be approximately 3,600 as 60 rps = 3600.00000144 rpm. I’m sorry, I couldn’t help myself all; Keep up the excellent entertainment NHRL and keep up the great work Project/Team Liftoff as well as pushing the AI/robotics boundaries. 👍. I had to edit the timestamp.

@jimkazmer951 Жыл бұрын

Yes, off the cuff, my numbers were wrong. Early on, years ago, I obsessed about these numbers and knew them. After I watched that video I double checked the numbers and saw they were wrong... And wondered how soon someone would point out the errors.

@jimkazmer951 Жыл бұрын

The reason I brought up the topic was to discuss how quickly/frequently the bot has to "pulse the wheels". At 33.3 rotations per second, each rotation takes 30 milliseconds, which requires the bot to adjust wheel speeds every 15 milliseconds. When the bot spins faster, that number is smaller, and if it spins slower that number is larger. It is easier to translate if the bot spins slower, but then it won't have as much destructive power.

@JayHendo1981 Жыл бұрын

@@jimkazmer951 Yeah, if I were yourself and in your position (after all those years of being incredibly involved in the industry as well as being numerically accurate) and I saw a regular person/pleb like myself commenting on my mathematical inaccuracy, I would not have even entertained my comment of inaccuracy with a response; Hats off to you sir and thank you very much for your acknowledgment and response accompanied with a dose of humility/honesty. 👍

@JayHendo1981 Жыл бұрын

@@jimkazmer951 I can only imagine the dynamics involved and how difficult it must have been to program and iterate upon a precise/exact pulse modulation frequency; Doing so at milli/micro second levels of precision/accuracy and figuring out what adjustments need to be made and to which parameters, having to deal with latency and human factor/error issues. difficult, to say the least. 🤖

@a2e5 Жыл бұрын

Wait, where did that decimal place after 3600 come from? Is your minute a little more than 60 seconds?

@jerrybobteasdale Жыл бұрын

No, use of AI will kill this sport.

@sushsidnd Жыл бұрын

Probably wont ever kill the sport. May kill the need for human drivers in the far, far future. When AI does become advanced enough that it starts consistently winning tournaments then I could see there being two leagues, an AI driver league and human driver league. As AI becomes better and more advanced I'm sure we will start to see more off-the-shelf solutions to let any builder add AI to their robot. In the near future we probably won't see entirely autonomous AI that can consistently win entire tournaments, only AI that can win most fights or AI that enhances a human's driving and doesn't entirely replace it.

@jimkazmer951 Жыл бұрын

I share your concern... keeping the sport accessible and within reach of new builders is important for the sport to grow. Yet, as @sushidnd wrote, tools and approaches will be shared that make developing such Bots just another step in your Bot building progression.

@jerrybobteasdale Жыл бұрын

@@sushsidnd The appeal of the sport is watching a favorite making understandable strives to win. Part of the appeal is anticipating failures due to your understanding of the challenges. Fans won't become fans of an AI. You won't see the AI's logic. You won't be able to root for it. AI will remove the appeal.

@jimkazmer951 Жыл бұрын

@@jerrybobteasdale you may be right. I'll keep that prediction in mind as this progresses.

@sushsidnd Жыл бұрын

@@jerrybobteasdale you cant see a human driver's logic either but you still root for them... Once AI gets advanced enough it will probably be able to control a robot better than a human would which would lead to robots more consistently engaging with each other during fights. I predict this would be more entertaining to watch for most people. Also, you mention fans won't root for AI. Youre right that people won't root for the AI but you incorrectly assume that it means that people won't root for anything at all. People will still root for the builders of the robot, the team, and the robot itself. AI doesn't get rid of any of that. Just look at the comment section of this video lol. Fans root for creativity, passion, cool stories, and competitive designs (and much more).