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Roqe 103 - With this year's Nowruz marking a new century in the Iranian calendar (1400), Roqe sets out to explore what Iran was, and who Iranians were, in their pre-Islamic era (pre-650 AD). Dr. Richard Foltz, an author and historian who specializes in the history of Iranian civilization sits down with Jian for a feature interview covering the impact of ancient Iran on global civilization and the common threads of continuity between Iranians before Islam and Iranians of today. Richard Foltz is a Professor of Religions and Cultures at Concordia University in Montréal. He is the author of numerous books including, “Iran in World History” and his most recent book, “A History of the Tajiks: Iranians of the East.” Plus, the Roqe Team convenes with letters of the week, and a discussion on the merits of intermittent fasting.
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@andreo1463 3 жыл бұрын

And here I am, Canadian - Israeli or Russian origin, listening to episode after episode of this wonderful podcast about Iranian culture and heritage. Glad I found it, thank you so much for doing it in English.

@RoqeMedia 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for listening to the show

@haniaryan7947 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Prof. Foltz for a factual, non-biased lesson in Iranian history. The highlight for me is a better understanding of how our rich Iranian heritage guides us to look into the great past, while our young Canadian culture asks us to look to a great future, as part of our identity. Brilliant. What a wonderful interview. I especially liked that it was a non-Iranian person knowing so much about our history lol This one will be on my favourite episodes list. I agree with the Roqe team that it was too short! Kheili khoob bood. Great job team 👏

@RoqeMedia 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@TheColombiano89 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing. My father is Persian and came to Colombia after the fall of the Shah of Iran In the 70s. He was part of his security detail in Panama. Nice to learn !

@marmary5555 3 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry but i side-eye anyone sh*tting on Iranian Nationalism. Nationalism is something Iranians need the most at this point. And not islamic nationalism (whatever that might be), but precisely pre-islamic nationalism. Back to our roots.

@MGentsch 3 жыл бұрын

On behalf of almost 95% students of university of Aryamehr (Sanati Sharif) wanted to tell you that how correctly and rightfully you’ve mentioned about this important issue and we the students have had worked a lot about that and we turned the page and opened a lot of minds to the reality about our great heritage. Dorood ba shoma ❤️ #JavidShah #LongLiveTheShah

@user-qz4cn5nz6o 3 жыл бұрын

Going back to our roots while we live in the west...ah...yes.

@ashk244 3 жыл бұрын

That will take much more than wearing a faravahar necklace and celebrating the "birthday" of Cyrus the Great.

@parsoumash 3 жыл бұрын

Great interview. Regarding the discourse on Iranians wanting to be Western. I want to note that freedom is not “Western” per se. We are all born free. If Iranians in Iran want to have freedom of speech, and women want the freedom to choose to wear the hijab that does not make it western. The danger in calling it western is that it allows for religious groups to equate freedom as a Western value and therefore suggest that “eastern” values mean stricter laws. By creating this narrative the door opens to what the Islamic Republic has done which is to claim a “culture war” and anyone who breaks from it is “western”, which is ludicrous. Freedom of choice, freedom of hijab, freedom speech is universal. Let’s not label it as western. It is dangerous.

@kristakaufman8527 3 жыл бұрын

Question: When hijab was originally supposed to be worn to indicate a married woman from a single woman, basically the same as a wedding ring is today in western culture, in the eastern culture not just iran but all over, the head being covered happened when a woman was engaged and married and it was supposed to be worn to indicate such so as to avoid adultery so that a man did not approach another man's wife, how then does your culture justify trying to make --- all women --- wear it? They are not using it as it was originally intended in --- all cultures --- not just eastern, but they have changed laws to force the wearing of it, a hijab, by all women regardless of marital status, so it defeats its original purpose to help avoid adultery. Why then do they do this? Could you explain? Or could someone explain this? I know you say it is dangerous to separate into west versus east, I am not saying it is just east that does this, and it is not just iran or just muslims. It seems like all over they do this, for example jews hassidic cover their hair but with wigs, that too, is just like how muslim religious making all women wear the head scarf defeats the purpose of what it originally was to signify, the fact a woman was married. So my point is, it did not matter whether it is hassidic jews that wear wigs and therefore do not indicate whether they are married or not to the public, the muslims make all women wear a hijab or other covering regardless of marital status and therefore do not indicate which they are, so I guess my question to you and others is why is that? Why did the culture change? In the day that religious jews or muslims required this whether east or west as it was supposed to protect people from breaking GOD's law and was supposed to prevent adultery so that people did not sin, it was supposed to help protect all, when it was used properly it made sense, but my question is can any of you explain when this change occurred to alter it? I know the Quran had it in there also to warn that one of the prophets wives was approached and the dispute as to who was to blame for it, well if the original use of head scarfs were used that would settle it, but the religious in -- all cultures and countries east and west-- all without separation changed the policy and rules for wearing the hijabs, and since you mentioned this , the hijab, and the fact that you did not like separation as if just east did one thing and west did another, well on this issue, BOTH east and west and BOTH muslim and jew ALL seemed to change the RULES for wearing head scarves. Muslims now require ALL women to cover the head, and in jewish hassids they cover the hair but it is a wig so it makes it impossible to tell if the woman has her hair covered or not so it seems like EQUALLY BOTH CULTURES changed the RULES and neither now makes any sense! I would like to know WHEN the ORIGINAL CHANGES actually happened? When Jian has experts on about history of these cultures from the middle east can you ask the experts as to when changes happened and have them explain why this happened? Since you Parsoumash just mentioned the hijab and east and west should not be separated I can agree with your opinion because it seems like everyone no matter where they are everyone is acting the same in that the culture is different now in modern time compared to old times, so can you Parsoumash maybe share if you know why the change happened and when it was? What era did they change the rules, like in IRAN, was it just when regime change happened in 1970's or did they have the rule change in IRAN before that? Before 1970's did women wear head scarf or covering like hijab only when married, or did they already have it that all women had to wear it? If you or someone could say when the change happened I thank you! Was there an exact day the law code in IRAN actually changed a date when government has a statute law code change? If Parsoumash knows , or if Jian knows, or if he has an EXPERT on to do an interview about this I would like to know. ( One of the other interviews had a fashion designer saying the government in IRAN showed up and was upset with her fashions, and I wondered why are they upset at designers, and women, if they the government in IRAN is not separating it into categories of married versus single to wear it to indicate such category so as to avoid causing sin, and if they had good intent to protect people, then why are they trying to force single women to do so? Why do they attack the female fashion designers when they just make clothes in IRAN and have no fault on them as to how women do or do not wear the items.) Thank you if any one can answer this.

@youtubeaccount1134 3 жыл бұрын

Islam is western religion, the time xnity was dominant in Europe is known as dark age😂

@RoqeMedia 3 жыл бұрын

thanks for the feedback

@delaramsalmassi4063 6 ай бұрын

Iran has always been called Iran by Iranians themselves!

@paparadab6203 3 жыл бұрын

Very informative, thank you Professor thank you ROQE 🤩

@RoqeMedia 3 жыл бұрын

You are very welcome

@hmi1601 3 жыл бұрын

Dr Richard Foltz is doing an excellent job. I do not necessarily agree with his views. For example the part where he said that Iranians supposedly "translated" Arab Bedouins' oral traditions (absurdity) or that Bagdad is an Iranic city. Yes, Bagdad was conquered by various Iranic dynasties, however i would rather claim Central Asiatic Bukhara and Samarkand rather than Mesopotamian Bagdad. Iranic culture is NOT Mesopotamian. It's Central Asiatic.

@sher7174 Жыл бұрын

There is very little doubt that Baghdad is infact a Iranic city and name. Names that end up with dad were very common during Parthian and Sassanid dynasty. Like MIthridad (send/given by Mithra) or Baghdad which is a combination of the Iranic word Baghd (for god and still exists in Russian as loanwoard Boghdan) and dad (which means given/send). Baghdad translates to "God given".

@hmi1601 Жыл бұрын

@@sher7174 Bagdad is probably an Iranic name but the name and civilization *before* it was called Bagdad has absolutely nothing to do with Iranic culture. Iranic people and culture are from Central Asia/Iranian plateau and North Caucasus

@sher7174 Жыл бұрын

@@hmi1601 You couldn't be more wrong lol. By that time and when the city was build it was build under Iranic dominance.

@marmary5555 Жыл бұрын

@@sher7174 Bagdad is Mesopotamia. Mesopotamia is not Iran. It was later conquered by Iranians.

@M10n15u3h5 3 жыл бұрын

Around 57.00. I am not sure the french invented the Croissant.

@esoterodactyl 3 жыл бұрын

speaking of frustration over misuse of language, you keep saying "something, something, and it begs the question" and i'm begging you to stop! i know you know what i'm saying! it's sacrilage! dr. foltz is certainly one of the most excited guests you've had on. between 25 & 40 minutes into the show he gradually dials it up and gets louder and louder. i was at the edge of my sandally! i hope you have him on again. his clarification of the infamous 'aryan' debate was educational. i didn't know the word has a persian root nor that it means noble. i think this might be a common mistake in e-ran culture claiming that aryan roots mean we're white. anyway this episode is dynamite. filing into the rewatchables. now, what really got me is jian... jian and this intermittent fasting (too many syllables. shorten it). i noticed you started your regiment a few days ago and i made a comment about your weight a few days ago, and a couple weeks ago, and a month ago. i'm happy to have inspired positive change. i've been waiting to give something back for all that you've given me and the rest of the audience with roqe media, but i didn't want to cheapen it with money. seeing how my whispers of "tOPooOOool" and "koPOOOoooL" are motivating you to make healthier life choices, now i can honestly and proudly become a patron. i hope you guys get so big that you sell out to disney! from vancouver with love. #roqesnob

@kristakaufman8527 3 жыл бұрын

Question for your expert, saying that persian literature started in 10th century based on arabic, how can he say this? Is he just meaning --- muslim ---- literature? Because after 630's the muslims invaded the eastern roman empires, and ottomans got invaded by arabs, and then the euro tribes temporarily restored the christian claims even on persia as they battled for the now austro hungarian balkans etc, but then you have genghis khan after battling the ottomans in 12th coming from east so he basically caused the language literature change to ordu army language based on arabic persian hindi combination, so is the fact your expert says there is no persian literature earlier the fact he ignores the fact pre 630's it was judeo christian eastern orthodox battling with the roman western controls and it was that literature and government,530 of eastern roman orthodox , does he just disregard history and culture of that time 10th AD to 700 BC ? Does he disregard all of that literature even the bible that was written in PERSIA? The prophets were the prime ministers of persia and wrote the GREATEST literature of all time, and your expert DISREGARDS this? Says there is no literature before 10th century? It is just arabic based? ***HOW DOES CALL HIMSELF EXPERT****? Arabic muslim rashidun caliphates may have tried to destroy persias judeo christian foundations, but why do your experts act with that bias, to disregard entire eras act as if they did not exist? Also when he says one set of tajik tribes knows persians but are persians, is he really disregarding history? They were part of the persian government only in cyrus the greats day, then alexander the greats greeks took over, tseparated it all by 20 generals, then eastern empire of rome took over, then the european early monarchs judeo christian took over they battled eastern break away orthodox empire separating from rome after 530 then arab rashidun battled them then they intertwined with ottoman later in 10th then genghis khan from east of afghanistan battled through his relatives for several then only then did they have urdu or army language so all of genghis's empires hindi persian arab could talk so they try to replace the roman latin and the persian origins so my point is that your expert looked at it well they speak persian so they are persian but refuse to acknowledge it. They were pre- 330 BC but not really after that. Your expert says it like they refuse to say they are persian. As if the people are wrong. Those people are not persian iranians and never have been, they were roman latin, they were greeks syrian assyrians jews and roman then assyrian media then persia then greek then roman then 330 roman judeo christian then 530 they were orthodox judeo christians then the arab rashidun invaders then persians and orthodox eastern empire judeo christians teamed up to fight the rashidun they battled for several hundred years while the goths ostro goths huns and all (german / limes under roman empire til 530 then until 640 right through hungary into persia they took over battling for several hundreds of years and it was not until your 10th century) that then ottomans started to emerge trying to break from the muslim rashiduns fighting with sunni and the shias breaking away then they isolated kept battling for balkans and hungary and your tajik tribes that were not persian they were judeo christian roman and then genghis from the east took over and imposed urdu ordu army languages even into persia and through delhi and into ottoman and so just because those tajik tribes speak persian does not mean they are iranian, then ottomans trying to force the arabic rashidun upsurge tried to force it back to arabic so your 10th century literature isn't very persian, it's just rashidun forced upon them,and all through out this your expert again biased ignores the jewish literatures as they were intermingles with the caliphates of saladin against the judeo christians who battled back and forth so your expert acting like there was just a "PERSIA" there really wasn't it was fighting trying to not get conquered by rashidun caliphate/jews of rambam helping it and also the literatures of both, so persia which its origins were not really arab but before that christain jew, trying not to get taken over by eastern khans and trying to fight to maintain any of its actual judeo christian foundations when the ottomans attacked got control of the north then imposing itself,even as the christian kings which were there at the time and your expert ignores this, but only because of divide in those lines in 1100's/1200's because of rambam siding with saladin and then brought curse on jews for 800 years until those same judeo christian lines brought back israel 1948, in between your expert disregards there is any difference in literatures, there are many! Judeo christian LATIN, GREEK ORTHODOX, Yes RASHIDUN MUSLIM, but also EASTERN KHANS brought literatures your expert ignored, and urdu he ignored literature of it, he ignored the northern JUDEO CHRISTIAN literatures of the church fathers and YES IN PERSIA IRAN and only when OTTOMANS tried to FORCE MUSLIM IMPOSITION did persia break and give way, but the tajik tribes in NORTH that say they are NOT persian iranian and don't acknowledge it of course NOT they were judeo christian orthodox under RUSSIAN JUDEO CHRISTIAN MONARCHY LINES yes those peoples spoke the persian and urdu and arabic underpinings from khans time, but they were EASTERN ORTHODOX JUDEO CHRISTIAN HALF OF THE ROMAN/GREEK EMPIRES that were ASSYRIAN MEDES AND CHALDEANS etc.ORIGINAL JEWS so why does your expert NOT recognize that? Those TRIBES were JUDEO CHRISTIAN it is WHY today the whole turkish armenians fight because the ottoman arabic influence tries to always wipe out judeo christian foundations of GOD's people in that region REMEMBER IT IS WHERE THE ARK WHERE NOAH A JEW STARTED HIS FAMILY LINES they did NOT JUST START LITERATURE in the 10TH CENTURY AD ! NOAH AND HIS SONS who were and ARE IN THE GREATEST BOOK AND LITERATURE OF ALL TIME is FROM THAT **** PERSIAN /TURKISH /REGION ***** and where your tajik tribes are from!!!!! So DO NOT DISREGARD THE BEST LITERATURE OF ALL TIME THE BIBLE AND ALL OF ITS BOOKS ORIGINATING FROM THERE!

@marmary5555 3 жыл бұрын

Are you done with your long ass Iranophobic and Persophobic tirade?

@kristakaufman8527 3 жыл бұрын

@@marmary5555 I am against false religions, as JESUS is the only way to be saved, however I am not against Iran or any other nation, my genetics actually has family lines that ruled in those nations and yes even jewish lineages were in persia and elsewhere, RULED / GOVERNED it so I am not against it , we ALL SHARE HISTORY, I am aware of it, my eyes are open and aware of the full history and I do not have limited BIAS or enforced regime based fear of speaking in freedom my opinion. The jews and prophets were from MOSES and we ALL originate from NOAH so let's just FOCUS on what we SHARE as HISTORY and not what separates. Stop having limited historical perspective. Expand your mind. Read ALL the literature even the TRUE HISTORY the BIBLE and PERSIA's actual history when it was BLESSED AND ONE OF THE GREATEST NATIONS!

@golchinjamaspesfandiary6148 Жыл бұрын

There are videos of history " Arabes envahi by attacks to IRAN & Iranians's king propose PEACE as he told them that " He respects MOHAMMAD & therefore No Need of WAR & he suggest ISLAM to become official but then some were forced by tax & violence ....So many left IRAN also Persian language does not need other language to be used for their ordinary talk or prayers but is forced since til now unfortunately No choice is given to individual or right of human 🤬😥😦terror is the language of Shiite unfortunately & is not the sacred sense .. even SUFI has been destroyed by this regime !!! the mystic side of ISLAM ? HYPOCRISY& FANATIsm is not even any religion but Dictators .