I agree !!!!!

Hi Lawrence, thanks for the comments. It is not an easy task to build your own rose engine but not impossible, you have to study those machines and come up with your own design according to your specs. I wish you good luck with your endeavor and hope one day to see your rose engine!

Fantastic, all the best in your endeavours

Thank you Mick!

Thanks for your comment, for pumping cuts the cutter and headstock stay stationary and only the rosette barrel and spindle assembly slide axially by the action of the touch piece against the back side of the rosette while revolving thus creating ratchet cuts. Hope that makes sense.

Thanks Frederic. Do you have some examples of cuttings done this way that you can post on Instagram? Appreciate your reply.

very well explained and great craftsmanship

Peter Morley thank you very much Sir😉

Active Atom thanks guys, much appreciated!

Claudio OMAS cheers

Thanks and all the best for your endeavor!

Stel Meb thank you for your comment, I built the machine with parts I had available around and machined some parts to fit those parts so I didn’t do any blueprints just rough sketching on pieces of paper!

Thank you!

thank you for your interest and the info!

Hi Doug, thanks for the comment and interest, I designed and built the rose engine according to my need and specs which is specifically for guilloche work for watchmaking. I would love to show you the machine, I am in Perth WA, if you get a chance to come by that side of the country let me know ! What are the features that interest you in my machine? I have seen the Rambling Rose design before but I'm not sure that this machine is solid enough for fine guilloche work which require minimal or non vibration, but I might be wrong. Let me know how you are going with your rose engine built-off! Looking forward to hear from you. Fred.

Hi Fred, Thanks for responding. I don't often make requests like that and so I forgot to look for an answer :-P I'm on the other side of Australia (East of Melbourne) and so I am unlikely to be able to visit you but I really appreciate the offer. I've only just started the project and it will take me a long while as I am an inexperienced hobby machinist taking on a project that is probably too much for me. But hey, nothing ventured..... I recognise that the Rambling Rose has a very different purpose to what you do but I also know that good design in one machine can often be adapted to a different machine. If you have the time and inclination, I would love to see quality photographs of your lathe in fairly close up detail and from different angles. Please accept my reassurance that I have no commercial interest. Just a thirst for learning new skills and for keeping my ageing mind ticking over :-) Best regards Doug

Hi there, thanks for the comment, I didn't make plans for the construction but had to do hand drawings of parts as I went along with the built. having never seen a rose engine in real I had to study from all sources i could for a while to have a clear picture of the machine I wanted in my mind and work things backward to machine parts. I guess if you understand how the machine works you can built it yourself to your own need, that's how it worked for me!

Thank you for your comment, I'm afraid I can't help you as I'm not into woodworking, Hope you can find information somewhere else. Regards. Fred.

In the straight line the work goes up and down and the rosettes are used to create waves!

Thank you for your comment, at the time of the build there was no plans anywhere on the net or books, I just observed and studied those machine and reverse engineer to built mine.

@@liliss67 Really? You did a great job. I would love to learn how to guilloche but don't have the money to buy one. I'm an engineer so making one may be my only option if I want to learn. Anyway, I'll keep my eyes open. Thanks for the reply.

Oscar Gonzalez I use high speed steel bars that I ground to the correct angles, the angles are critical for engine turning, I use a goniostat with the edge of the cutter forming a V of 10 degrees per side and 20 degrees front rake! Hope that make sense.

Hi Andrew, thanks for your comment, unfortunately I do not have plans for my rose engine except for the headstock and spindle, I worked around with materials and parts on hands and didn't spend more time than needed to make plans but took measurements in situ to fit parts, I had the whole vision in my head. Perhaps I should post a video on the assembly of the headstock and rosette barrel since it's not so obvious as to how it works. Cheers.

Thank you for your comment, the spindle was made from scratch so the rosette barrel. Thanks for the interest.

Hi Gary, Thank you for your comment,The tool is sharpen the same way and angles regardless of being use for basket weave, barley corn, diamonds, clous de Paris etc...The angles are critical and I use a "Goniostat", sort of sharpening jig, to set the different angles against sharpening stones.Regards.Fred.

Thank you for replying. I am really amazed of this machine and the way you do the work . I will contact you in the future if Decide to make one for my self . Thanks again Gary.

Gary, yes they do are really fascinating machines and I wanted to try it since I saw the working of it in the George Daniels book "Watchmaking" but finding one at reasonable price is next to impossible so after lots of thinking I went ahead and built my own and it was lots of fun.If I can do it you sure can and I'm not an engineer!I will be more than happy to help if you decide to make your own.CheersFred.

Can you tell me?

The rosettes diameter is 150mm from memory, the teeth count on the ratchet wheel is 100! Cheers Fred.

@@liliss67 hi Fred. As we spoke in the past, I was wondering about the amplitude dimensions of the rosettes. How deep they are. I will be using for jewelry which is as small as the watch dial. Thx have Happy New year and hope there will be peace in the world.

Hi Vladimir, I'm sorry but I don't understand your question. Cheers.

What here not to understand? He is asking angle of the graver you use in the cross slide.

Не хочет понимать .. у вас случайно нет гильош машинки? Мечтаю собрать

Что вас интересует по поводу гильошь машинки?

I'm pretty sure there is no background music,

Ahh the CNC machines they are great aren't they? Actually a 3 axis CNC milling machine would do! However there is NO CNC milling machine that can reproduce what a rose engine can do, (I'm talking about guilloche work of course) a well set up rose engine can achive a level of finess and finish of engraving a rotating milling bit can't and that is probably why high end watch brands use these (Victorian) machines to produce their guilloche watch dial. The only CNC that might have a chance is the Faro F1 with guilloche attachement, but then at what cost?