Rotary Welding Table Build 13

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Abom79

Abom79

9 жыл бұрын

In this episode we begin the machine work on the large copper grounding block for the welding table base. I'll explain to you my idea for a good mount and how to keep it isolated. We'll do some milling, drilling, reaming, tapping, and polishing to get this part ready. I also show some machining of phenolic for some bushings needed.
There was much to pack into one video, and only got half of this grounding system in this episode. Next video will show the completed parts bolted together and mounted up.
Hope you guys enjoy!
Adam

Пікірлер: 403
@williamconner8872
@williamconner8872 9 жыл бұрын
Another viewer said watching this project was better than anything on TV, and he is right. Great video, great series.
@reideichner8597
@reideichner8597 9 жыл бұрын
HI Adam, I have really enjoyed watching you create your rotary table. It is coming out awesome! You will be the envy of every welder - and machinist - that sees it. Thanks for sharing. Best Regards, Reid
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Reid!
@davidrahn9903
@davidrahn9903 8 жыл бұрын
I really love how this entire build went from "this will be handy" to "im going to do the best job I can and challenge myself in the best way, because I can" and it's the "because I can" that makes this series so informative and entertaining. Thanks man. Great series.
@Abom79
@Abom79 8 жыл бұрын
I agree David. People were puzzled at the shear oversize ness of things I did, but I did it because I could, I had the materials to use, and I thought it brought more to the screen to share. In a production world this build would be much different. Personal projects doesn't need a time limit or small budget though.
@jcims
@jcims 9 жыл бұрын
lol the polishing cloth video brought a memory back of the smell of Tarn-X working. Took me a minute to place it, I just had this 'smell memory' pop up and I couldn't remember what it was from. Very unique and somewhat unpleasant smell I haven't thought about in 20+ years. Crazy how the mind works.
@idriwzrd
@idriwzrd 8 жыл бұрын
What is it about watching an end mill work thats so mesmerizing?
@w056007568
@w056007568 9 жыл бұрын
It interesting to me see how differently copper behaves in these various processes compared to other metals also most interesting to see phenolic being machined.
@jimliechty2983
@jimliechty2983 9 жыл бұрын
Another great video Adam! Rather than using a spring, curve the straps part way around the tube, then come back in front and put a cross bolt thru with a locknut to adjust the tension against the tube....or make a fancy brass turn buckle!
@divi54321
@divi54321 9 жыл бұрын
Loved the photos at the end Adam the copper really catches your eye, once finished you will not be able to stop admiring it lol. ATB Craig.
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
Just hope I can keep it shiny new for a while!
@RyanWeishalla
@RyanWeishalla 9 жыл бұрын
Another nice build episode, Adam. The horses are coming around the final corner and into the home stretch.
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
Yep, they're getting closer. Thanks Ryan.
@KnolltopFarms
@KnolltopFarms 9 жыл бұрын
Abom79 Great now I've got "She'll be comin' Around the Mountain when she Comes" stuck in my head after having your great soundtrack in there...I have to go back and watch the slide show at the end...darn ;)
@barronbrumley7892
@barronbrumley7892 6 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty late to your channel, but I'm catching up. Saw table in other videos. Glad to see it in a series on your channel. Been a Welder/Machinist for 16 years now, it's what i enjoy. Good to see people, like you, that share the passion. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.
@josephmagedanz4070
@josephmagedanz4070 9 жыл бұрын
Yes, Adam, I have enjoyed this series. Although there are lots of comments on what you should do, you seem to be doing just fine. It is your design and work, and if there is something that needs adjusting later, you will manage. Stick to your ideas and continue giving it your best. What esle can we ask for? I look forward to the end result. Joe
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe, and I have agree with you. Thanks for the positive feedback.
@larrysperling8801
@larrysperling8801 9 жыл бұрын
another great video. what your ground critics fail to realize is that current will always take the path of least resistance. your ground path from the copper bars up thru the maint shaft to the table is the most direct path.your bearings and bushings are safe. project overkill looks great.
@Godshole
@Godshole 9 жыл бұрын
I'm with Larry :D
@Gary3247
@Gary3247 7 жыл бұрын
What a fabulous build. I would love to see someone build a smaller, table-top version of this rotary table. Maybe a 12" tall version for model-makers. That would be a great project. BTW, you along with Keith Fenner, Keith Rucker, Tom Lipton, etc. have really become exceptional in the quality of your videos. You are to be commended.
@codcape
@codcape 8 жыл бұрын
This video build is addicting. I'm going to go into withdrawal when I finish the series. You know that extra hole in the copper could be useful if you have another machine with a different style ground clamp. You could press-fit a copper rod into there, shorter than the casters of course, for the alligator-style clamps some machines have.
@swarfrat311
@swarfrat311 9 жыл бұрын
Hey Adam, Your copper ground block looks like something out of an old Frankenstein movie. Hit it with 50,000 volts and it's alive! Your attention to detail is really amazing. I know you are about to shit your pants wanting to complete the project, but you still maintain that methodical work pace, doing things until they are the way you want them! Well done, Adam! Thanks for sharing! Have a good one! Dave
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave. I spent much of yesterday working on the table completing the final mock up. All has gone well and I'm pleased with how it's turned out.
@rfnoise
@rfnoise 9 жыл бұрын
Hello Adam, To use an expression I heard somewhere else, "Nothing too Strong ever Broke" I think it applies here. As for the points raised here; Your insulated block is fine. It keeps current away from your bearings. Your wheel base will be grounded, by the ball bearings and by shaft to cylinder contact, but they will not be carrying the welding current. So success there. The main contact points between the copper and steel may have galvanic corrosion and in the worst case arc pitting, but I doubt it. They are wear points, so the more you spin the table the more you clean them. For the people who think Adam will die if the contact points go bad, that is a scary proposition for the next time a welder forgets to connect his ground clamp. He'll have to turn around and wait for the grim reaper to show up :) Your doing good Adam, keep the video's cumming. And I'll keep wishing I had a shop like yours:) Robert
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Robert! I agree with you with your comments. I have never been bitten by a welder before. I have done some testing this week. No problems yet, I'm still alive! :)
@CSSIandAssociate
@CSSIandAssociate 9 жыл бұрын
Adam great project. This is one the nicest things if you know how to build something you can make to fit your needs. In addition if saw this in your shop I was told the story. I know I would be comfortable hiring your shop. I love the lines of this " WTable"!
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks William!
@ericcorse
@ericcorse 9 жыл бұрын
Those little squares worked perfect for that. The copper block is a work of art.
@UnorthodoxFabrication
@UnorthodoxFabrication 9 жыл бұрын
Great progress, Thanks for sharing. That fanolic stuff looks pretty cool when machined.
@davidwatsonii9469
@davidwatsonii9469 6 жыл бұрын
THATS HERITAGE PIECE RIGHT THERE BROTHER, IT'LL OUTLAST US ALL, I LIKE THE STILLS ADDED TO THE END, NICE TOUCH
@Ishta123
@Ishta123 9 жыл бұрын
Adam, You do amazing work. Great project and can't wait to see you use it! Chris
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris!
@rickl.orchids
@rickl.orchids 9 жыл бұрын
....heh heh heh...."Over kill "....entirely up to ones imagination and opinion. Your build, and that's what it is,....is a great lesson in using whats on hand, machining, layout, turning, and working outside the box...that's what I got from it.........keep it coming!...........
@rippy154
@rippy154 9 жыл бұрын
Adam, First and foremost the work is impeccable as all the work in your videos. As far as the isolation concerns,,,,,, there is an ass for every seat. There are a lot of good points made that the isolation is not going to work properly or its a waste of time but I am really enjoying the work and craftsmanship you are putting into the copper isolation block and I really enjoy your take on it. I like the project for what it is, a severally over built , go big or go home style of machining that you bring to the viewer. I am a heavy equipment mechanic and do quite a bit of machining at my job on lathes, mills and do lots of line boring so I really enjoy watching your projects and when I build something I take the same approach... may not be right or wrong but its over built and going to be around forever and built the way I want it. I also wanted to let you know that it has inspired me to finally do something with the old 24" faceplate that has been sitting in the corner. May be I'll film the build if I can get my 10 YRO to show me how her Go pro works and it can create videos like your chip control and face off series LOL Take care and don't' take the negativity to heart, you are doing a great job that is both educational and highly enjoyable to watch.
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the late reply rippy154 Thanks for the great feedback and positive words of encouragement! You sound a bit like me, we love things built heavy duty. Hope you get to put a plan in works for your 24" faceplate. You should build a table as well and use it at work! Figure out that Gopro and make some video!
@MyShopNotes
@MyShopNotes 9 жыл бұрын
Hey Adam, nice ground terminal. For polishing I use autosol and a cloth, works great. A very small dab is all that is needed and it leave a light residue that keeps things shiny, $12 a tube in my neighbourhood.
@RJGMWR
@RJGMWR 9 жыл бұрын
Hey Adam. I'm not trying to say the welding table is over built, well yeah it is way over built and awsome. On the ships I sail on the welder had a ground cable about 3 feet long attached to the hull and a weld cable about 300 feet long. We never had issues welding on the ship using the hull as ground. Again awsome welding table. Ryan.
@ofuel
@ofuel 9 жыл бұрын
Adam, I have done some video work in the past, and I can say with confidence - you're not only doing a fantastic job of the welding table project with all that skill and precision, you're also putting together quite a presentation every time you assemble and cut together the videos we all enjoy. I believe I can speak for the entire group here... You're a great guy, and we ALL appreciate your work and patience in all that you are doing. It's a worthwhile endeavor! Thank you!!!!
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Nathan!! I always try and put together a fun and informative video for you.
@binks166
@binks166 9 жыл бұрын
Hi Adam, Looking Good!! Very serious ground clamp attachment.. suspect you will never have to worry about a good ground when you are welding.. Best wishes,, Harvey from Nebraska
@peto22
@peto22 9 жыл бұрын
You did made the grounding/isolation with "owerkill" style, as it should. I like it! When you get the table to finish, you should tell us the hypothetical manufacturing costs, "as you would do them on sale." Parts, materials, and labor combined. It would be fun to know. :)
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
I'll be working on a list and see if we can come up with some idea on cost tied into the project.
@Lawnmowerman02346
@Lawnmowerman02346 9 жыл бұрын
Hi Adam you have done a fantastic job engineering and manufacturing this table . I also know we build it because we can ! That being said with your design I'm not sure you can isolate the center shaft you have too many bearing surface's ,including the table lock . Keep up the great work Steve
@RaysGarage
@RaysGarage 9 жыл бұрын
Hey Adam, The welding table is turning out really nice man, looks like the project in coming re close to done! I hope you have another multi series project in mind, really enjoying this one! Ray
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ray. I was thinking about dabbling into a possible cylinder build later on for fun.
@LightningFabrication
@LightningFabrication 9 жыл бұрын
Adam, I'm glad that you machined the last little bit off of copper block. not only would it have bothered you for the rest of your life, you'd never get another good night sleep either. It might be a little to late but I was thinking, why not mill a taper on the sides of the block. Wide end towards the slot for the ground clamp narrowing towards the center post. That way you wouldn't have to bend the copper straps. Just slide the straps over the center post up close to the block and pull the block back to the mounting holes. The taper would cause the straps to fit tighter to the center post the farther you pulled the block back to the mounting holes. It would only take a few degrees from each side to work. In your SNS 60 you mentioned that you were going to drill and tap the center shaft for an eye bolt so you can use a cherry picker to puck it up. I'm a little confused, because of what you said and the motions you gave in video #1 of this series at the 5 minute12 second mark. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b82CgLGSudHOgac.htmlm12s hahaha. I'm just messing with you... Right click link open in new tab Great video and awesome table.
@greasemonkeygaragewatson1069
@greasemonkeygaragewatson1069 9 жыл бұрын
Hi Adam, my comment is for the guys who feel they need to say things could be done different, or no need etc. I think they seem to forget that this project will produce a first class welding table, but also show many different way's to do this job, share your idea's and pass them on to novice guys like me. looking at copper machining and the set up is why I watch youtube thanks Adam for your video's and please keep doing them the Abom way. thanks Jeff
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support Jeff!
@tonyburndred9828
@tonyburndred9828 9 жыл бұрын
Hi Adam The old method in the UK was to use paraffin I think you call it kerosene in the states for lubrication on copper whilst machining, great videos keep them coming, and ignore the whinging sods who criticised you, good luck with the rest of the build. Regards Tony
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tony!
@one4stevo
@one4stevo 9 жыл бұрын
I never heard of phenolic till now, Thanks for sharing Adam.
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
It's a pretty good non conductive, non corrosive,or magnetic material. You can machine it to size, even tap holes. I have a bunch of it around where it was used in the past for making different parts. Thanks Stevo.
@cncdavenz
@cncdavenz 9 жыл бұрын
Hi Adam, Copper is one bitch to machine but it looks fantastic when its polished up. This project is teaching us all heaps and at the end of it you will have a project that you can be proud of and will be the flashiest welding table on youTube. Thanks for keeping us entertained. Dave.
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave!
@garyyork1280
@garyyork1280 9 жыл бұрын
Well Adam ole buddy buddy, Just think. Someday after you are gone this piece of work will proudly be displayed in the Smithsonian
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
I sure hope it doesn't end up getting hocked down there at the flea market! LOL
@thatlittleworkshop
@thatlittleworkshop 9 жыл бұрын
Great job Adam, that's a great job on the grounding block. It machined beautifully. That high helix endmill leaves a beautiful finish. Looking forward to the next episode. I've never had the opportunity to machine copper before, I would like to give it a try one day. Thanks for all your videos Adam. Ian Little
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
Ian, copper can be a bitch to machine. Tapping for me was the toughest, well and maybe trying to get a good finish. It does make some pretty parts though.
@jimmilne19
@jimmilne19 9 жыл бұрын
Very nice touch with the slide show at the end. Copper has a beautiful color and texture. I am really enjoying this series! Thanks for sharing.
@williamward2948
@williamward2948 6 жыл бұрын
I know, I made the comment to myself, "Look at all that money flying around.", when Adam was machining the slot for the ground lead in it...lol
@not2fast4u2c
@not2fast4u2c 9 жыл бұрын
I like how you are isolating the ground to be only on the shaft ..I have seen the phenolic stuff in old radio equipment and fuse boxes
@HennerZeller
@HennerZeller 9 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work - I enjoy every episode of this ultimate welding table project!
@ofuel
@ofuel 9 жыл бұрын
Adam. Take some of those left over copper chips, melt them down, and make you a plug to press into the hole that shouldn't be there, and mill it flat. I know that won't matter, but it'll be a nice finishing touch. - or just get a copper rod of sufficient size... do the same thing, but the other way would be more fun. Copper: Melting point: 1,984°F (1,085°C), or use a threaded rod piece, maybe.
@SEB93Seby
@SEB93Seby 9 жыл бұрын
It's been six I'm milling lathe operator, I began by conventional machines, CNC now. I can only admire your work, attention to detail realized by hand. Thank you for those hours spent in front of your videos, unrivaled on TV trash :) A small question: What is the music in the end?
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
All of my music has been Silent Partner.
@jaimevega4370
@jaimevega4370 9 жыл бұрын
This project keeps looking better and better. Thanks for sharing it with us.
@TheMan1510
@TheMan1510 9 жыл бұрын
Excellent work as always, Adam! Of course, after seeing the pics at the end I am almost sorry to think that that beautiful bit of copper is going to be where nobody will ever see it, lol.
@leeh.4453
@leeh.4453 9 жыл бұрын
So many experts, so little time. I've been in the same head space, I think. Not wanting it to be over, because it's so much fun building it with so much ingenuity. As the project nears completion, the remaining parts get smoother, better fitted, more elegant, more deeply polished, more comfortable to the hand. It turns into a gem. I say have fun, Bro, and ignore the experts. It can be finished however you want, because you're building it for yourself, not anyone else. "Efficient" is irrelevant for your design decisions. Thanks for letting me watch. It's cool. ..
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lee. I appreciate that! Your right, it's mine.....all mine!! LOL I let people comment and say what they want. I'm no expert on any of the subjects at hand, but do have some "on job experience". I think my design will work good for what it will be used for. Tested yesterday!! :)
@cwmayes1580
@cwmayes1580 9 жыл бұрын
Great Job Adam. Can't wait to see the finished product! You will never have to worry about messing that bearing up with the way you have it grounded. Every pipe welder I know using ball bearing pillow blocks on their spinners with no insulating barrier and they go day in day out. Craig, up in Canada.
@BossDoug1
@BossDoug1 9 жыл бұрын
I love watching you work Adam, keep the faith!
@jonarbuckle1560
@jonarbuckle1560 7 жыл бұрын
sweet baby bladefoot that copper is SHARP looking!
@rickbrandt9559
@rickbrandt9559 9 жыл бұрын
Another great grin. Well done.
@uweroh8967
@uweroh8967 9 жыл бұрын
Hallo Adam, es macht Spaß dir beim Arbeiten zuzuschauen. Du machst wirklich sehr gute Arbeit. 👍 Schöne grüße aus Deutschland.
@catmshtr89
@catmshtr89 9 жыл бұрын
Love it. I do think with all the thought and machining that is going into this, it won't get used. It will be put in the living room as a piece of art because that is what it is.
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
Chad, it's too nice to put inside! Are you crazy! lol!! Let's make some sparks on it.
@frednewman2162
@frednewman2162 9 жыл бұрын
Adam, whoever recommended the slot for the ground clamp was pretty observant to realize that you had a welder with old school ground that had flat plate on one side. New welders have the other style clamps that wouldn't fit into your slot. If you change welders, better keep that ground clamp or your going to have to modify your work. Nice video! Great work!!!
@josephp.polnaszek9134
@josephp.polnaszek9134 9 жыл бұрын
I have the same welder as Adam and mine has that very same ground clamp on it. Those Miller 330A/BP welders were the holy grail of welders for many many years and will weld anything from pop cans to bridges. Trulley and awesome machine!
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
Joseph P. Polnaszek You got that right! it's a true workhorse. Awesome machines that many people these days overlook. It's simple, but heavy duty. My dad bought ours brand new, I even have the original books to it. I take it the ground clamp is original too. I did a buy a ground clamp for it a long time ago that looks like a c-clamp. It's still in the box and I have never used it.
@toolguy6057
@toolguy6057 9 жыл бұрын
Looking Good Adam! It's a good plan!
@SteveLindsayhumain
@SteveLindsayhumain 9 жыл бұрын
Nice work. I get people who drop by my shop & make suggestions about this that and the other thing when I building something. The vast majority of the time I have already gone through the process of thinking through the various ways to do what is going to be done and it tends to get to me when a visitor offers up suggestions that were already thought of. I know they just want to get their two cents worth in and it should not bother me, but it can be insulting considering it's what I do for a living and they don't. On rare occasion, I will hear an idea that I had not thought of and I appreciate the idea when it happens. You know you stuff and do nice work. Thanks for the videos.
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks, and I have to agree with you. I know exactly where your coming from. Sometimes you have to just smile and say thanks, and keep moving on, like I have to do around the comment section often. :)
@German_MDS
@German_MDS 9 жыл бұрын
This project is getting better every episode! I like the "photo slideshow" at the end with that music. Great idea!
@Locus_Red
@Locus_Red 8 жыл бұрын
Was just looking up what phenolic is, and found that prior to the 80's it commonly had asbestos mixed in as filler. Might not be a good idea to be machining much of the stuff. Given that you found it in your grandfather's toolbox, its probably older than 80's. Thanks for the videos. They are fantastic.
@yanwo2359
@yanwo2359 9 жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable! Excellent production values, too.
@greathodgy22
@greathodgy22 9 жыл бұрын
. I like the still photos of the copper shavings, nice texture. .
@waynekwoods2799
@waynekwoods2799 9 жыл бұрын
So Adam We are into about 10 K $ . but it is awsome build. Elena thanks for watching's Abom's back.
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
Now we're getting somewhere, and it's not even built and polished yet! Thanks Wayne.
@madebymike8792
@madebymike8792 9 жыл бұрын
Hey Adam, sure beats me why you want to isolate the earth from the baseplate! Surely it will be earthed anyway back through the shaft, the bush and the tube? Better to have it all locked down to ground? That said, the workmanship is wonderful as usual and it is your project so you gotta do as you see fit 😄
@shift00
@shift00 9 жыл бұрын
Love the vids man! as a professional welder in the nuclear industry I am geeking out over this project. Thanks for taking the time to include us youtubers in it.
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I bet you get to see some interesting jobs.
@GTLee9
@GTLee9 9 жыл бұрын
Looking good Adam. It's a work of art.
@Stevus1
@Stevus1 3 жыл бұрын
Lol so funny when you said “awe, dang it! Wrong side.”
@tombellus8986
@tombellus8986 9 жыл бұрын
I sure like your little tail-stock chuck, looks like it works great. Nice series of videos----- Thanks
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
I have used it a few times now, works great!
@RandallMoore1955
@RandallMoore1955 9 жыл бұрын
That was some cool thinking on some ones part, Looking good Adam.
@RambozoClown
@RambozoClown 9 жыл бұрын
Maybe get some brass bolts to attach the arms to the copper block? Mostly for looks, but also helps conductivity. They always seem to use a lot of brass fasteners with copper bus bars. This is such a work of art, it might be hard to use it for welding.
@mattcurry29
@mattcurry29 9 жыл бұрын
Hey Adam, Nice work on the ground system. I love those high-helix cutters for softer material and the phenolic always reminds me of a horse barn. The oilers polished well look killer. Matt C.
@JeffreyVastine
@JeffreyVastine 9 жыл бұрын
Nice work Adam! I like the color of fresh cut/untarnished copper and think the emblem/logo Keith made for this would really look good copper plated and lacquered to prevent any tarnishing. Peace!
@outsidescrewball
@outsidescrewball 9 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed, cool use of the Z square!
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
Had to give Stan some props there! Thanks Chuck
@djbengi74
@djbengi74 9 жыл бұрын
Great build no need to over think the ground system it's not a flux capasitor it's a welding table it will never see 1.21 giga watts at precisely 1:21 a.m.... Lol So many Doc's from Back to the future. Keep up the great work
@tattoos1988
@tattoos1988 4 жыл бұрын
Another amazing video ABOM the only thing I would say is on the copper block on the bottom under the slot you cut I’d mark where the clamp stops and mill a small groove for the small flat part on the clamp to slot into so I’d didn’t slide out only a suggestion lol amazing work thanks for the video
@davidcashin9194
@davidcashin9194 9 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree and I wouldn't bother isolating the block as you are going to isolate the baring should be all good.
@chukkaskate
@chukkaskate 9 жыл бұрын
great work Adam.
@jdgower1
@jdgower1 9 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, and this project in particular! Now, I have a comment... I know this is gonna get nerdy, and it is after the fact, but just for kicks, I’d like to put this out there for your consideration about the conduction path of the ground. You did a great job on it and I guarantee you’ll have no problems with it, but in the grand scheme of things, it was a little bit overdone. That’s cool - you’re a detail oriented guy, and that’s why I think you’ll appreciate this analysis of it. Let’s start off assuming a 250 amp max current at 36 volts. That’s a 9000 watt load. You are concerned with the power load through your thrust bearing, and it looks to have eight balls. So, if the total power load were to be transmitted through the bearing, it would be 1125 watts per ball energy transfer. That would be like using one of the balls as a welding lead with a 62.5 amp setting at 36 volts. That could cause welding if it were a “point-to-point” contact, but the balls ride in a curved groove to spread out the load (being thrust bearings) so they obviously spread out the electrical contact surface as well. Even considering that, 1125 watts per ball would cause a fair amount of sparking and pitting over time. But in reality, even without the phenolic and other electrical isolation methods, the electrical path would be split between the table shaft and the base-through-bearing shaft. Even assuming that each of these paths had the same conductive potential, now we are talking about 512.5 watts per ball - considerably less damaging. Now let’s consider the reality of the conductive potential being the same on both paths…they wouldn’t be. The resistance through the shaft would be less than the resistance through the bearing, so now we’re talking about less than 500 watts per ball. (At this point, I would like to say that if I WERE building this project with a conductive path, however small, through the bearing, I would use an anti-seize grease for the bearing, because it usually has plenty of conductive stuff like aluminum powder in it, and it would carry a significant portion of the load around the balls, and not through them) So now we have the scenario of having a bearing with conductive grease carrying less than 500 watts per ball (worst case scenario) and a considerable amount of that power going through the metal particles in the grease. With just the plastic shims under the bearing, you would exponentially cut down the conduction through the bearing. In other words, the resistance of the shims would reduce the current through the bearing to a fraction of a watt. This would force the vast majority of the current through the shaft and less than a tingle through the bearing - definitely not enough to weld the bearing. All the other stuff is just gravy.
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your comments Lazy D. Nice, informative, and no insult slinging. I enjoy learning too. You put a little fact with your comments.
@KnolltopFarms
@KnolltopFarms 9 жыл бұрын
Boy, I certainly won't be making any electrical comments on this thread, LOL, I'll just say I think it's a thing of beauty and functionality, and please just use the heck out of it as you weld your projects up! Thanks for the excellent show, and also for taking me back with that phenolic pattern which I would have never imagined could be turned like that. Nice job my man, nice job, Aloha...Chuck
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chuck! Hope your tools clean up nicely for ya today!
@KnolltopFarms
@KnolltopFarms 9 жыл бұрын
Boy did they ever, and the sauce is still got kick and is still in a tub working on all of the old tools out of Dad's tool box! :D Thanks for the tip...or the added push, I can't remember who showed it to me first, but after seeing your results I was sold!
@Squat5000
@Squat5000 9 жыл бұрын
How many people notice the tactical keychains sticker? 37:11 This is no tool. It is a work of art! I look at the american made quality, and only think one thing... US ROCKS! This is a $5000 welding table.
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Cody!! Maybe that 5K is the starting bid.... :)
@goptools
@goptools 9 жыл бұрын
Looks great Adam! The copper really pops! -mike
@bigun447
@bigun447 9 жыл бұрын
Now he is going to have to mop his floor every day. Do not want visitors laying on a dirty floor to look at the copper. Tee Hee
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
Big'un44 Like I was yesterday! Good thing I shop vac'd the floor this time.
@DrewDiaz
@DrewDiaz 9 жыл бұрын
Glad you polished the bottom of that block, so the teeth on the clamp have something to dig into. 😀
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
It's like buying a new car, just so that you can start getting scratches and dents in it after the first day of use.
@dustinheppel9048
@dustinheppel9048 9 жыл бұрын
Top job Adam, the current from your ground clamp should follow the path of least resistance, so I don't think you will have any trouble as stated in some of the other comments, top job keep up the great work.
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dustin. So far it's working quite well.
@towrecker
@towrecker 8 жыл бұрын
that polishing cloth is also sold in gun cleaning supplies for cleaning stainless revolver cylinders , they are sold under the name of "lead away" they are a very useful item for many things ...
@hdoug5
@hdoug5 9 жыл бұрын
I think your doing an awesome job on your table, and after reading the comments I nominate Elena for prez :) cant wait to see the finished product and you beside it grinning :)
@PhilG999
@PhilG999 9 жыл бұрын
Awesome as usual! As far as your polishing cloths go look into a product called Nevr-Dull. Wadding in a can. I learned about this years ago from a big truck driver that delivered to a company I worked for. His rig had all Aluminum wheels (yes the trailer too). He would do the whole thing before our guys could unload. I have Aluminum wheels on my Monza and it takes them from nasty to perfect in less than an hour. And that's after it sits for a couple years.
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
I used to have some of that stuff years ago that I used on my wheels. Worked good! Try one of these cloths and see what you think.
@mijit.859
@mijit.859 6 жыл бұрын
Well done sir ! You put a hell of a lot of work too build it ! 😨
@ronkluwe4875
@ronkluwe4875 9 жыл бұрын
Adam; Nice looking work there. One safety suggestion for you. Phenolic is a formaldehyde resin and you really don't want to breathe that stuff in any shape or form. In the future you might want to use a good quality dust mask when working with it. Regards; Ron Kluwe
@DougHanchard
@DougHanchard 9 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up! It is as bad as breathing in cedar.
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
Surely noted guys.
@ritzblitz1
@ritzblitz1 9 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 30k subs Adam. Been watching a long time, gotta send you a gift one day, its gonna be a shop made useful item, been pondering it for a while. Toms gonna get one too. Great series here by the way- thoroughly enjoyable Alex Kern
@JOHNPHUFNAGEL
@JOHNPHUFNAGEL 9 жыл бұрын
great project Adam
@dc182000
@dc182000 9 жыл бұрын
Another Saturday afternoon well spent! :)
@kapkaja3472
@kapkaja3472 9 жыл бұрын
I love to watch your work it's almost like an art...
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you Marcin!
@kooldoozer
@kooldoozer 9 жыл бұрын
Hello Adam, I read all the negative comments about the need for your grounding brushes. These people just don't understand. The way you designed it is absolutely correct. I see that you are creating a directed current path. I totally understand the need for the phenolic insulation. It is a smart design. I say this as a mechanical engineer but I have a ton of electrical knowledge. You have a nice design there. Just because 98% of the general public are electrically ignorant, don't let their comments bring you down. Nice work. ---Doozer
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Doozer! It's refreshing hearing a positive comment about the ground coming from someone with engineering knowledge.
@edgarmatzinger9742
@edgarmatzinger9742 7 жыл бұрын
I'm just watching this great series and I'm getting why Adam uses isolation, but necessary it's not. He's just making sure the current goes through the axle. and not through the baring or outer tube. But by using the brass brushes the current would go through the axle, even without isolation. But, as said, I get the idea.
@kenwolfe6093
@kenwolfe6093 9 жыл бұрын
Adam, lookin' great! Ever think about threading the extra hole and installing a plug? Or make a phenolic plug and press it in? It looks really good all polished up. I'm looking forward to the next couple videos as it comes all together. Then, you'll need to come up with a project or repair that needs the new table! All the best, Ken
@billmoran3812
@billmoran3812 9 жыл бұрын
Nice design. I wouldn't worry about the thrust bearing, the current path is through the shaft, it won't bother the bearing the way you have it set up with the copper bars against the shaft.
@WAVETUBE84
@WAVETUBE84 9 жыл бұрын
Looks nice Adam.
@cliffordfender1159
@cliffordfender1159 9 жыл бұрын
Adam, As with large positioners used in large fabrications, that spin, or move the weldment during the welding phase, everything is grounded and these machines have motors, bearings, controls, and everything else of the like. For your consideration, Cliff
@painintheass1000
@painintheass1000 5 жыл бұрын
New to channel Love the build all the comments about earth isolation are not needed unless you isolate the shaft pipe and base as it is bolted in place electricity will always take the path of least resistance
@janusszakazu9318
@janusszakazu9318 3 жыл бұрын
Adam you are to perfect , and i like it 👌👍
@notsofresh8563
@notsofresh8563 9 жыл бұрын
If you mount the spring between the shaft and ground block instead, it will work just as well but will be out of the way. It will also let you trim alot more overhang off of the copper bars. I would worry about stuff getting under the table and potentially catching up on the end of the bars. The randomest crap finds its way under benches and tables. Btw, Adam, did i see that you had a black fingernail on your little finger? My grade 10 shop teacher told me "Never put your fingers where you wouldn't put your dink" Wise words indeed....
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
Notso, my pinky got caught between a shaft and the edge of my roll-around cart at work. I was spinning it with my left hand, and holding it with my right hand. The shaft tried rolling off the cart and my finger was there between them. It hurt like hell!! It killed the nail and now a new one is growing under it. Doh!!
@notsofresh8563
@notsofresh8563 9 жыл бұрын
I should mention that I am up to 35 stitches in my hands so far collected over 35 years, and had a couple tendons in my right hand re-attached from a 10"grinder mishap, sooooo i am definitely not one to talk....lol. Sometimes when you work on big stufff, you get big boo-boos...
@stanwooddave9758
@stanwooddave9758 9 жыл бұрын
Notso Fresh Boy, and I thought being down to nine and 3/4 finger's was bad news after over 25 years as and autobody guy. Just a Welder / Fabricator / just beyond hobby machinist now. A lot easier on the body. I'm not getting any younger.
@notsofresh8563
@notsofresh8563 9 жыл бұрын
I actually still have 10 perfectly working fingers, they just have a few extra seams here and there.
@bulletproofpepper2
@bulletproofpepper2 9 жыл бұрын
nice video work. great job!
@loader980
@loader980 9 жыл бұрын
looks great adam!!!!
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt!
@davewood406
@davewood406 9 жыл бұрын
You will probably want to have some sort of No-Ox compound up inside your slot (not to get personal or anything). I like "No-Ox-ID "A" Special" on copper but even the stuff in the electrical aisle at the Home Depot should do fine. If you just rub it in the copper until it just leaves a fingerprint, the copper should stay shiny for a long time.
@johnvickers5750
@johnvickers5750 9 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit late on ths one. I'm no electrition, but in school we were taught electricity allways follows the path of least resistence? isn't that what Adam is trying to achieve? Anyhow, another job well done in my opinion. John.
@Abom79
@Abom79 9 жыл бұрын
John, yes I'm trying to create a direct path to the faceplate with my grounding system.
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