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Round Column Mill Head Alignment

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RP Mechanics

RP Mechanics

Күн бұрын

Maintaining position after raising or lowering the head.

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@FISHBREATHH
@FISHBREATHH 7 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you don't know how easy it is til you are shown, Thanks
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@purtnearperkins
@purtnearperkins 6 жыл бұрын
Very useful. And thanks for not making a 30 minute video that could have been made in 2.5 minutes. You nailed it and just swung my vote on an Enco round column I was hesitating on. Going to pick it up today.
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for watching and good luck.
@BobGR
@BobGR Ай бұрын
Lol i feel so stupid! This is the most useful video I've ever seen about a round column mil! Thank you
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Slabforkhomestead
@Slabforkhomestead 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for helping to easily solve my alignment issue. I have a Ring Fu RF30, same color as your Jet, and I’m not ready to try the stabilization solution. This is easy and might be all I ever need to do for my hobby needs. Something funny is that I have an Atlas 618 as well and my mill sits to the left of it too.
@jeffl.oliverson6690
@jeffl.oliverson6690 Жыл бұрын
My feelings exactly. I just purchased a used 2007 Rong fu 31. I have been looking at a number of videos on “ the big problem with round column mills” and all the time people have put into making a guide system to mount on the side of the mill to “fix the big problem”. I consider the common sense method you show is the easiest and simple way to deal with the round column. Thanks for the video. Maybe some of these others might look at say. “Why didn’t I think of that?”
@Mitch3343
@Mitch3343 Жыл бұрын
This is fantastic. I've been wondering how to overcome this. I was surprised how many people were hating on my round column when I shared that I had just bought it. I upgraded from the central machinery micro mill, so no matter what, it's an upgrade. But so many people whine about it. I asked for advice on a table feed and all I got was "get a better mill, dont upgrade that one". 😂
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics Жыл бұрын
I always thought a nice part was the objective but some think the machine is.
@tribsat100
@tribsat100 3 жыл бұрын
When you think of all the negative energy expelled everytime an armchair expert says “ the trouble with round column mills is....’ then you and no doubt others demonstrate how very simple it is and no real issue at all. Ive just bought the same mill as yours from Axminster here in the uk, it should arrive in a few weeks and I,m like a kid at xmas . Regards Stuart Bell form England.
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and good luck with your new machine.
@mmcnew1
@mmcnew1 3 жыл бұрын
Takes all concerns out of moving a round column mill head. I just acquired an Enco 30 and I know I’ll be using this tip someday soon.
@ggordon4127
@ggordon4127 6 жыл бұрын
That is the handiest method yet. Thanks.
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@Mr67chev
@Mr67chev 4 жыл бұрын
This is by far the quickest and easiest method I've seen for realignment of the head. Thank you!
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking a look!
@dozza89
@dozza89 3 жыл бұрын
Super simple but effective. I will be using this method, thank you!
@stevegpsych68
@stevegpsych68 Жыл бұрын
Mate, so glad I stumbled on your video. Sooooo many people spending hours and dollars making elaborate attachments and I thought to myself, why not just use a dial indicator and boom, here is your video doing exactly that. As a newbie some nice reassurance that I'm not a complete idiot and that there is hope for me yet. There's genius in simplicity. Thanks once again!
@BobGR
@BobGR Ай бұрын
I hate to pop your bubble Steve but we all have indicators and have tried to do this but when you move the head up it's now out of reach and you would have to move the indicator and well that's a problem. This is the solution and like everything, it's simple and obvious once someone shows you a way, which this man generously did. So don't go patting yourself on your back until you post something that everyone appreciates.
@MattysWorkshop
@MattysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, so simple, I just brought myself a round column mill and was wondering how to do this, much appreciated
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@winchesterdude5368
@winchesterdude5368 3 жыл бұрын
I acquired for free a very large, very heavy very well made Jet floor mount round column mill. I’ve been scratching my brain how to make it work quickly and accurately. man why didn’t I think of this! So much easier than what I’ve been thinking about doing! Awesome tip
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Jacob.
@samdude1953
@samdude1953 3 жыл бұрын
This is a good method, thanks. I've been using the laser method and that works pretty well. I have a future project to attach a pillow block to the side of the head and another pillow block to the side of the column casting, along with a rail between them (all acquired from 80/20). Once completed, this setup will render the mill a non-columner mill. Super easy to move up and down with confidence. Speedier too.
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds good.
@kennethtencza9209
@kennethtencza9209 Жыл бұрын
What is the laser method? Thanks
@oddsman01
@oddsman01 Жыл бұрын
@@kennethtencza9209 you probably heard by now, but you mount a laser on the mill head and aim for a line on an opposing wall. The longer the distance, the more small moves are magnified.
@vilyo1570
@vilyo1570 Ай бұрын
Exelent solution to the problem. BTW, we’re using those machines for projects with not very tight tolerances. Usually within.003”. I never had a problem with re centering the had.
@deancarboni6776
@deancarboni6776 11 ай бұрын
This is the first video I've seen with this method and how I have verified the head on mine for years. I've looked at all other modifications that have been machined, bolted, and welded on, and there is still deflection with the final product/end result. Save yourself a lot of time and aggravation, use a dial indicator with a magnetic base... just verify your quill is true to the table.. the four bolts holding the column to the base can be shimmed.
@johnkinnane547
@johnkinnane547 4 жыл бұрын
That’s a terrific idea the best I’ve seen, thank you for showing it kind regards John Kinnane from Kingston Tasmania Australia 🇦🇺
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out.
@RickRose
@RickRose 7 жыл бұрын
Well done. Glad to see you back!
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 7 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks Rick!
@marcelorcurti
@marcelorcurti 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent. I have a similar milling machine and I always had the problem of losing alignment when moving the z axis now no longer. Thank you
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@shawnmrfixitlee6478
@shawnmrfixitlee6478 7 жыл бұрын
very great tip man ! PLEASE MAKE MORE VIDS .. LOl.. Thumbs up ..I have watched all yur vids man..
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 7 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks a lot! More soon, I hope.
@shawnmrfixitlee6478
@shawnmrfixitlee6478 7 жыл бұрын
AWESOME !! Thanks man..
@rlprgp62
@rlprgp62 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that is really simple, I have a Rong Fu R30. I have been using a laser with a paint dot. This looks more accurate. Thanks for sharing.
@CNCFONTAINE
@CNCFONTAINE 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, simple and clear !
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@DanG-ug1ed
@DanG-ug1ed 3 жыл бұрын
You thought of my idea before I did! Sheesh!!! Thanks.
@glenncpw
@glenncpw 7 жыл бұрын
Simple but Brilliant, well thought out..
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Glenn.
@kennethtencza9209
@kennethtencza9209 Жыл бұрын
Great video, simple right to point
@sharkrivermachine
@sharkrivermachine 7 жыл бұрын
Great tip!
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@eviltwinx
@eviltwinx 7 жыл бұрын
Whoa! It's been awhile. Great trick BTW.
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. Yea I'd like to get back into vid making again.
@pijnto
@pijnto 4 жыл бұрын
That's bloody brilliant!!
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out.
@rustyshackleford928
@rustyshackleford928 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip.. That's great.
@stefankrimbacher7917
@stefankrimbacher7917 2 жыл бұрын
Very clever. That is exactly what I need.
@How2Wrench
@How2Wrench 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@bustednuckles2
@bustednuckles2 3 жыл бұрын
This is going to work great on the Smithy 3 in 1 I recently acquired! I was wondering how I was going to accomplish that task. Thanks!
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@petertyrrell6690
@petertyrrell6690 5 жыл бұрын
Jeash ( slaps forhead), why did it take so long for someone to think of this,? A great idea. Thanks for sharing.
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@letscheckitout1985
@letscheckitout1985 6 жыл бұрын
That was an awesome tip !!! Thanks!!
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@letscheckitout1985
@letscheckitout1985 6 жыл бұрын
RP Mechanics may I ask where if you remember where you bought that indicator with the bump stop?
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 6 жыл бұрын
You can get those cheap indicator stands at any machine tool store. I removed the fine adjustment arm and turned a solid one to take its place. It was a metric size, 13 mm if I remember, so I couldn't use a piece of standard round stock.
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 6 жыл бұрын
That's a good question. It didn't occur to me to touch on that in the video.
@cramersclassics
@cramersclassics 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job!
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@6NBERLS
@6NBERLS 6 жыл бұрын
I set up a steel plate on top of my mill and have a laser pointer with a magnetic base that I aim at a line drawn on the wall. After moving the head, I just turn the head to point the laser where it used to point. My problem with moving the mill head up or down is that it changes the tramm. Had to make adjustable parallels so I could tramm the workpiece. Tramming the workpiece was much easier than tramming the mill... especially considering that I have to set the mill head to a special height to tramm it. I'm using one of those circular tripod tramming tables as it seems to work best. If I could afford to do it over, I would gladly get a mill with a dovetail column.
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 6 жыл бұрын
I think one of these machines are good for a mechanic or fabricator where within a few thou's are usually good enough. A pro level machinist would probably be better served with a different machine. For the general work I do this machine works good and it's a good match for my little lathe.
@mleejewelry
@mleejewelry 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you find the dial clamp it's great idea just can't find the dial clamp?
@thosoz3431
@thosoz3431 3 жыл бұрын
Simple and good. Thank you.
@TheJpybus282
@TheJpybus282 4 жыл бұрын
On mine i use two different vises. a shorter one on one side and the larger milling vise on the other side of the table. I just check for parallel alignment on both before i start.
@N.Cognito
@N.Cognito 3 жыл бұрын
I plan to pin the rack to the column. It eliminates the ability to swing it if you want, but swinging doesn't give you any more reach so it shouldn't be a big deal.
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good plan.
@elsdp-4560
@elsdp-4560 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing.
@marceljanssens6919
@marceljanssens6919 3 жыл бұрын
Great tip. Thanks!
@plasticbag75
@plasticbag75 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you so much!
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@dwightcarlson7136
@dwightcarlson7136 3 жыл бұрын
Go to Winky's shop and see how he added power to the head lift and made a fixture to maintain alignment.
@johnbabu3640
@johnbabu3640 5 жыл бұрын
The best solution
@npalen
@npalen 7 ай бұрын
I think you're procedure is good except the use of the "hardstop" because there is no assurance that you won't bump the hardstop with enough force to move it a few thou and the indicator will still read zero. It would be better to just use the indicator zero without the hardstop.
@joeclune1784
@joeclune1784 7 жыл бұрын
welcome back.
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 7 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks Joe.
@derekmelton
@derekmelton 4 жыл бұрын
Contemplating a Jet JMD15 round column mill drill but the round column kinda scares me. I’ve often heard people say they’re great drill presses but not great mills because the round column can allow the head to pivot while milling. Has that been an issue for you?
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 4 жыл бұрын
That has happened to me a couple times when trying to hog too much. High quality end mills are a must. It all comes down to time. If you need to get a lot jobs knocked out quick I would go heavier. .020 passes in steel is doable. .050+ cuts will strain it and possibly move the head. Sharp tools, slow feed and light cuts will make some nice looking parts. That said, a square column with power down feed would be pretty sweet.
@markschuette3770
@markschuette3770 3 жыл бұрын
why do those round column mills have that feature? what does rotating the head do for you anyway? also can't you just use a carpenders square to aline the bit above the hole?
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 2 жыл бұрын
need way more accuracy that
@KK-tk8sk
@KK-tk8sk 3 жыл бұрын
The dial indicator is pointless when up against the hard stop. It won't tell you if you're pushing on the stop. Use the same method, but with the dial indicator alone.
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 2 жыл бұрын
not so
@JourneymanRandy
@JourneymanRandy 6 жыл бұрын
Good work
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@jedsmk
@jedsmk 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I will be picking up a similar machine in a few days. In thinking about dealing with the head movement issue I thought about mounting a small laser on the head, pointing downwards, with a fixed "target" on the base. Then as long as laser is pinpointed on the target head alignment should be ok. Am I correct? Would appreciate any thoughts on this idea.
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't tried using a pointer but I know it's a common method. Keep in mind that the wider the arc you measure will make it easier to achieve greater accuracy.
@bsteleven
@bsteleven 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks great tip!
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@davehammond9796
@davehammond9796 4 жыл бұрын
Another method is to mount a laser on the machine, and a target line on the opposite wall.
@44Celt
@44Celt 3 жыл бұрын
Ive tried that method and unless your opposing wall is a very long distance away, you wont get any real accuracy. My wall was 4m away and could move the mill at least 5 thou without it showing on the laser line. This method has to be one of the most accuarate Ive seen
@Bonanza06c
@Bonanza06c 4 жыл бұрын
Nice trick thank you
@RPMechanics
@RPMechanics 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
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