Life is Just a Lottery with Raoul Martinez

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7 жыл бұрын

Life is Just a Lottery with Raoul Martinez. Informed by over a decade of research, Martinez lifts the veil on the mechanisms of control that pervade our lives, from the lottery of our birth to concentrated wealth and power. He explains that the more we understand how the world shapes us, the more effectively we can shape our world.
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@mariettestabel275 3 ай бұрын

Thank You Raoul. ❤

@MusicwithLuca 10 ай бұрын

sweet, thank you :)

@Alan2Bordeaux 7 жыл бұрын

The spirit of B F Skinner lives on.

@stephenlawrence4821 3 жыл бұрын

This is very good and obviously true. Unfortunately most people just won't get it.

@steveweiss7191 7 жыл бұрын

This type of equivocal ethics abolishes responsibility and accountability because humans are seen as robots lacking free will but are the consequence of their genes and upbringing. The speaker indicates that the reason for acting like he does is like the doctrine of original sin and that anyone can be as guilty as anyone else, and so punishment is unjust because the individual couldn't have acted differently. If this view is what passes for ethics today I will have none of it.

@temujin1234 7 жыл бұрын

It sounds like you reject the premise because you don't approve of its outcome.

@steveweiss7191 7 жыл бұрын

amgems This view is the abandonment of ethics as such. Right, wrong who knows?

@HannesRadke 7 жыл бұрын

Ethics means what we agree on is wrong or right, isnt't it? So ethics still exists, even without free will. Saying, I am against punishing people for voting for Trump ;)

@Gobiniu 7 жыл бұрын

@Steve Weiss so to amgems question... you say yes?

@paneko1 7 жыл бұрын

Hannes Radke I would say somebody had to put a lottery in a place, so whoever created this gaming enviroment and is keeping it up is the subject for punishment. Pre colonization Indian societies didn't play any lottery, yet natural compasss between good and bad wasn't result of mastering western rationalism.

@anirudhsingh2354 7 жыл бұрын

I really like the talks in RSA. I dont know why you have such a bad lighting

@zainababdalkarim2009 7 жыл бұрын

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@paneko1 7 жыл бұрын

How the lottery worked in, for example, Native American societies before colonization?

@roidroid 7 жыл бұрын

A criminal justice system *completely* devoid of retribution? Sounds... interesting. Wish he'd painted a more textured picture of how it would work.

@HannesRadke 7 жыл бұрын

Yeah that's really interesting. Reminds me of how Rwanda handled the genocide aftermath. Not totally free of retribution, but pretty mild. You can't just sentence 75% of your population to death.

@Nashy119 7 жыл бұрын

I don't think the point was getting rid of retribution altogether, it could just hang around as a pointless side-effect if it had to.

@Californiansurfer 6 жыл бұрын

Life is random.

@juanantoniopallarueloelvir6466 5 жыл бұрын

It's like the soft version of Sam Harris' thoughts on free Will.

@MattBaker789 7 жыл бұрын

No, we are not computers, simply regurgitating what code we are given.

@Gobiniu 7 жыл бұрын

That is at best a 50% of an argument, if it is a very simple argument.

@josecordovil8832 6 жыл бұрын

Gobiniu 50% of an argument? You are being VERY generous my friend

@LuisDiuk 5 жыл бұрын

Yes, we are not responsible, let me take your money, I am not responsible, obviously we choose our actions, that's what action is about

@stephenlawrence4821 3 жыл бұрын

Luis Riesco Obviously we choose our actions. But you're assuming that there is something special about choices which makes us responsible for them. The whole point is there isn't, you receive your choices like you receive your eye colour.

@LuisDiuk 3 жыл бұрын

@@stephenlawrence4821 Give me an example of that theory, can a person kill another person and be declared innocent? The purpose of the whole justice system is to restrain human action and free will... I dont understand what's the point with negating free will

@stephenlawrence4821 3 жыл бұрын

@@LuisDiuk If a person kills someone they are guilty in the sense they did it and they should not have done. It's just assuming determinism they were merely unlucky to be predetermined to make that choice. And further no other metaphysical frame work helps. So there is no point in asking what if determinism isn't true. What this means is they are not responsible in the sense they deserve to suffer as a consequence. If you're not a murderer lucky you and visa versa. You could have been predetermined to be a murderer but fortunately for you, you weren't. So rather than "they deserve to be punished" its more like "we need rules with penalties for consequential reasons and they are unfortunate to be eligible to pay the penalty". It does make quite a difference.

@LuisDiuk 3 жыл бұрын

@@stephenlawrence4821 Do you know the cities where there is higher rate crimes is where lefty politicians rule (in the US) this is because their ideology is "not to punish or prosecute criminal behaviour", there isn't determinism, it's all free will, choosing not to prosecute criminal behaviour leads to an increase on criminal rates, here the determinism is not opening your eyes to the reality, do you agree that here there isn't any valid argument for determinis, the implications of negating determinism is to reject Self Responsibilty

@stephenlawrence4821 3 жыл бұрын

@@LuisDiuk Well that had nothing to do with whether we have free will or not. Also, no, statistics do not favour your point of view. Crime in America is very high compared to less punitive countries.

@polytopey 7 жыл бұрын

Nice speech, now explain that to rape victims about how they need to be more compassionate toward their rapists.

@Akita538 7 жыл бұрын

*@polytopey* Then again, if you _deny_ the existence of cause and effect, you accept that actions have no consequences!

@Nashy119 7 жыл бұрын

Why? we all know emotions aren't rational.

@stephenlawrence4821 3 жыл бұрын

It would be better for the rape victim if she accepted the rapist was the product of his genes and environment and not ultimately responsible for his actions. Still a terrible thing to happen but in the long run it would remove a lot of hatred and anger and make life at least a little better.

@Alhiebe 6 жыл бұрын

If it's true that all we believe and do is entirely only a product of our genes and environment, then why should anyone trust as true and right such products, including the doctrine of determinism? I.e., if Raoul Martinez is merely speaking words that are the product of his genes and environment, then why should anyone believe those words as conveying true ideas?

@stephenlawrence4821 3 жыл бұрын

The reason to believe any argument is if it's a good argument.