Dear admin, Why you still use to benchmark i9 13900K while there are better CPUs? Like 14900K, 7950X3D or 7800X3D? I just want to know

Both cpu and gpu stay very cool.

I wonder how cheap the AMD counterparts of this cards if they are that cheap.

In a better world I'd be able to afford a private jet.

I heard 7800 xt is dropping below 500$ and 7900 xtx below 900$​@@MadridistaFrieren

​@@Vrgames100meanwhile in my country rx 6800 non xt is 800 bucks💀(India)

Paid $1699 for my 4090 so I’ll take it..don’t hate 😂

You forgot the most important part: ~100% price.

​@@joseph_maher 4080s if msrp is the best high end gpu for price to performance. But if only in msrp.

​@@joseph_maher50% more vram 👀

⁠@@brahmantyoihsan5938exactly, much more expensive for much smaller difference. The reason: 4080 Ti S

@@adlibconstitution1609i copped one for MSRP 999USD Gigabyte Windforce V2 on newegg possibly the best purchse for me ever

i hope so!

Well you would expect a big difference for an almost 1000$ gap between the two cards (I know the 4090 has a 1600$ MSRP, but good luck finding one at that price). Whereas the 4080 S is "only" 200$ more expensive than the 4070 TI S.

​@horvathr95 u dumb? I found 4090 all the time for 1500usd

Oh come on. You don't have to say the truth

I mean the 4090 is $1600-2000 I would expect the difference to be 20-40 fps more than 4080

In my country 4080s price at 1800$ while the 4090 is 2000$. There you go 200$ difference

Your 4080S is just overpriced. It should be $999 only. and 4090 is $1799 now in USA and in stock. Price is go back to normal.@@rayraydente1712

$1500 is fair.

Woah woah woah, that's not how you fund a jacket collection.

That doesn't make any sense.

Yeah on avatar my PC uses around 700w total

I doubt the 5070 will be any faster than the 4080 Super.

@@lobiankk77 will be. 5070 ti will be same or better than 4090. this isn't rocket science newbie. 4070 ti beats 3090 as well, and 3090 was just as pricey and good when it was released as 4090 now.

@@dex4sure361 We were taking about the 5070, not the 5070 Ti, "newbie". Yes, the 4070 Ti is faster than the 3090, but the 4070 is barely as fast as 3080, so I predict the 5070 will be 4080/4080S levels of performance.

@@lobiankk77 if 5070 ti is same or faster than 4090, obviously 5070 will be faster than 4080 or 4080 super, newbie... can see you're newbie to this.

4090 is the king of undevolt though. Mine runs at 320W with no loss in performance.

It’s not double the price it’s like 40% more expensive. For like 30% more performance. Which is good. There’s a law of diminishing returns. Double the performance costs more than double the price to make. The more performance the more each percent increase costs to manufacture.

Yeah in terms of MSRP, you cant find the 4090 at MSRP​@Ren-lx8wv

@@Ren-lx8wva 4080 super is about 1000 right now while a 4090 is 2000

​@@NationalPjVillainwake me up when the 4090 is €1000

CPU Cooler - Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420

try installing a contact frame by thermalright

@@TestingGames im using the same arctic liquid freezer II but 360 version. Still getting above 70c. Any idea whats the problem with that sir? my CPU is 10900K

There’s numerous factors that can affect your cpu temperature besides just your aio like the type of case you have, how many fans you have and what speed they are running at, also the ambient temperature in the room your pc is in makes a difference too.

@@SirAttila for temperatures like that I was thinking that was a custom water cooler

Gpu bound

4090 still the best :D

That's why im probably gonna save up for AMD .if the 4090 was still 1600 I probably could make that happen but even then that's pushing it but maybe I will but dang has Nvidia got even greedier while 7900xtx is mostly the same price

​@@user-zr4ik5ob4l in that case I would buy a 4080 super. Better efficiency, mostly faster, dlss, less driver problems (xtx owner)

​@@daidalos15084080s is the best high end gpu if it stayed at msrp

@@masterpainter78 not for long

Cheap

😂

Don't worry normally the temperature would be 55-65° while heavy gaming

Seems high. My new 4080 S Founders edition w/ 7800x3d, Corsair aio liquid cooler is in the 40's C

60°C isn't hot (it's normal for your gpu) buddy, I remember when some gpu used to hit 100+ °C back in time lmao

@@vandanakhambadkar8536 Well, when I tried to play AFOP on 4k or 2k ultra quality , temperatures hot 72 🥲.. 72! I'm kinda worrying about my M.2 that is right above GPU where all heat comes up.

@@dg7438 Can I ask you smth. Have you played with your 4080 S AFOP or Hogwarts? The thing is I've seen videos on YT where ppl played AFOP on 4k on their 4080 and action moves (mouse turns) were smooth.. For me on 4k it's very jerky.. like it's 20 fps, although 4k, DLSS, upscaling Biased, Ultra quality hits 40-60 fps, depends. But it's really unplayable when I have to like turn camera fast. Idk if it's my GPU or what. The only smoother Way is to turn "biased-performamce(or ultra performance), but then again quality is not so good, and a lot of smearing and a lot of shadow noises. Plus my biggest concern is when I watch any movie/video file either it's local file or KZfaq/Netflix - any camera movement or character movement is like it's 20 fps.... Disappointing.. can't even ignore it, it's so visible... No smooth video..No matter if it's FHD or 4k. Same. When with my old AMD GPU videos were perfect, I've never even noticed anything like that before anywhere. Anyone has an idea?

2-10 fps

You're living in the early 2000s. Doesn't work that way.

@@drunkhusband6257 crypto currency is dead, they can drop the cost unless they can't produce more GPU. ...AMD seem to be able to make good product for everyone, maybe because they are on PS5 & XSX hardware.

@@drunkhusband6257 Look at what the 1080 Ti launched for

just say you cant afford any of them much easier

@@JoeMama-yl1ow you sound mad broke. Ill wait to see rtx 5000serie or rx 8000. Even ps5 pro sound better with exclusive. Look like YOU cant afford a good pc lol imagine you you dont have any pc and wannbe sound rich. then you can only afford to bootleg

Looking forward to seeing the next 5090 xd

Agree. This setup on my HDR1k 165hz 1440p monitor shines.

@@dg7438 ya still running my 1070ti ftw2 wanted to buy a 4090 or 4080 super but after the rumors that the 50 series come out in a few months ill just wait and upgrade mobo cpu gpu ram with the new am5 cpu from amd comings out too this winter no need to buy this generation at the end of the generation ill still build a 1440p gaming setup much much better than 4k for ultra gsync hdr high fps high refresh rates etc just not sure between ultrawide or 3 27'inch monitors... tried my first ultrawide this week didn't like it 1 bit curved etc

@@cloudstrife7083 sounds nice, good luck in your decision. Personally I don't like ultrawides but I would get two or three smaller monitors next to each other

@@dg7438 what do you mean you don't like my ways ? my english isn't perfect so excuse that speak french from quebec

@@cloudstrife7083 Sorry..typo! haha. Auto correct. meant to say Ultrawides* (I don't like)

(I know its not that simple)

I mean since you had the funds you won't regret it, its not like you sold your car for this GPU, you just had the money.

He use artic cooler

If its a good unit, yes.

@@cnk-fn3nr For most RTX 4090 You can see 1000W PSU recommended, that's why I'm asking. I have an RTX 4090 paired with i7-13700K and 1000W Gold+ PSU and it works fine, but 850W is a bit risky.

Bro how do you define huge differences by mere 10-15 FPS difference MAX. NVIDIA Will release 4090TI Only or 4090 SUPER They would never release 4080 TI or a 4080TI Super. Hypothetically if they do then they would scam those who bought the 4090 because the 4080Ti and Super u say will closely outperform it like how do u guys think they will release it.

@@vegardpig8634 same for my country

@vegardpig8634 i got the 4090 for 1600euro, very lucky!

4090 is shit gpu too expensive and too much power hungry.

I hope you never win the lottery because you'll be broke the next day.

Actually its msrp is 1600

$1799 now

@@kelvinkms3671 2k here bro too much went with the 4080

same here i713700F +rtx 4080 @@acollecta7169

​@@3aloosh616I actually got it for that price.

You’re probably being bottlenecked by your cpu then

Trash CPU

How soon? Thinking of buying a 4090 soon, but do you think the price of it will be lower when the 50 series comes out?

you got money for 4080s i think you should wait and save some money for 50s just in case, and im pretty sure you can still buy the 40s if 5090 or 80 is overpriced or lame.

Alan wake 2 uses mesh

@AzZulski could explain it to me, please? I have no idea what is this mesh 😂

Alan Wake 2 uses mesh shading to render lighting and its display on the models. I am not a computer science major, I am an engineering major, but this is what I've picked up on so far. The 3D models in games are just a bunch of triangles put together. Those triangles have edges called vertexes, so you'd use vertex shading to calculate the appearance of each one. There are other methods used in tandem such as compute and geometry shading, but the primary focus is with vertex shading. For most titles, this is a good foundation since the appearance is largely static and doesn't really need to change (Render distance and other elements are largely separate from this). However, if you have a game that does a lot of scaling up and down the detail, say, zooming in on a face for a live cutscene, or you're constantly changing what's in frame and what isn't, you drastically jack up the vertex count and need a method that is far more dynamic to match the needs instead of just computing all the vertices and then throwing it all away because it's not used. This is where mesh shading comes in. It helps break up the computational requirements into parallel chunks for the GPU to process, making it far more efficient. But, of course, you need a GPU that can handle this parallel processing (Which is why the GTX 10-series runs like dog water for Alan Wake II). NVidia's video demonstrating the technology (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ebiWjbx7xNnPZXk.htmlsi=MZaf7hYISKj0posO) does a decent job of visualizing on a basic level where this technology would be useful, such as a constantly changing environment where as objects get closer, its important to render more detail

I order one today but the founder edition but it hearts my bank account I wish I bought it early since the price is 4 times the amount of each version original price

Don’t worry you get one I was going to get one on eBay use for 1600 but buy it Amazon well eBay is a good choose 😅 since they usually go for total 1900 I wanted it to get hear fast.

Не понял претензия к игре или к видеокарте?

Зато там есть опция Frame Generation для 4000 серии видео карт (Как и большинства новых игр). У меня на высочайших настройках с RT в Киберпанке средний fps на 4K- 110 fps. (Карта 4080S)

I have Both cards 4080 Vanilla and the 4090 I take pleasure in the fact i bought early got a 4080 for $1100 while everyone else is bitching about prices being too high ,Tell you guys something don't wait for things to change because you're just going to be disappointed in the end facts. Shout out to the people who bought a 4080 super for it to be the same as a regular 4080 at the same price or higher congratulations Nvidia dupped you again!

Threadrippers are sort of out of the realm of consumers/gaming in 2024. The latest gen costs $5k-$10k are mostly meant for servers.

No need for anything above 4090, AMD is just on pair with the 4080.

4080Ti with 20GB VRAM

how?@@Sims64340

Best Buy. I got my founders edition for 1000 there. Only reason I returned my 1080 Ti Super.

Amazon has a few under 1000

But then nobody would've touched the 4090

KEK

Define "value"

@@Matias-wu6xp it cost 60% more for msrp if u can get one at msrp for like 20-25% more peformance

@@indiexannapeople still would’ve bought it the same. It’s always the same people buying the highest end cards.

Maybe with heavy ray tracing use. Normally it's a 4K card, but maybe not for full ultra settings like the 4090.

People are actually losing brain cells I swear. $1000 card is definitely a 4K card.

@@johnmoore1495 I know I was just saying someone told me

Imagine pay 1000$ for just 1440p 😂

​@@robertopazsoldan9641that's what I'm saying

without frame gen doubt

@@prenti1205 I mean let's be real the only reason you would ever want or need FG is to hit improbable framerates in unreasonable scenarios. Like beyond 60 at 4K, beyond 60 with RT etc aka basically playing beyond your capabilities. Otherwise, if your playing within your boundaries, you really don't need it. Think about it, if you can't hit 4K 60 with RT on or off, it's not that you need or you could use FG, really you just need a stronger card, power, you don't need FG.

sure you can play at least 1080p level gaming with 3080 ti for more 5 to 7 years..

​@@nafian_nI use a 3070 to play at 4k lol

​@@SupremacyGamesYTLol, FG is an amazing tech, it reduces CPU bottleneck so in theory you can even save more money on CPU, but CPU are so good value rn it doesn't matter. There is a AFMF mod that works on RTX cards only, never tried FG but this mod is pretty decent. If reviewers say it's still a step behind FG, Im sure no one would complain about that tech

It somewhat is

The high-ends gpu's like the 4090 is for the same people every year and Nvidia likes to make money giving 25% more performance.

7900XTX wins :D

“Save some women for the rest of us… Yeesh!”

You pay for the performance. Only poor people think having a 4090 is worth bragging about.

@deadchannel7895 Right. Thanks for pointing out how smart you are. So then since you're so smart, what's the purpose of posting a comparison on YT if they are going to look the same anyway?

Ummm actually there are 100,000 pennies in 1000 dollars 🤓

I don't think so bro, spending so much just to get a 30-40fps boost? Plus 16gb vram is enough not to talk about 24gb vram, if you have the money and you wanna go overkill then buy the 4090 but if you don't wanna waste them buy the 4080s cus that'd be the way id go

@@davidebakwo343 i thought there is a significant price/fps difference between those high end cards. Imagine building a cutting edge system, you must consider this 20 fps difference in current gen games. Right?

@@SwedishMarksman yeah but I feel the 4090 is too much😂

nah double the price for this is not worth it if you are not some rich person@@SwedishMarksman