Rugby Player Analysis: Eben Etzebeth

Rugby Player Analysis: Eben Etzebeth | The Genius at Rucks

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2 жыл бұрын

I've wanted to release this video for some time now. Eben has always been one of the players I've loved to scout. There is so much to like about his game, but the thing that stands out to me is his Rugby IQ. He's the only player that I've seen that has a complete understanding of ruck time. In fact, he's so good that sometimes he notices stuff that the ref can't even see.
People think of Eben as an Enforcer ( He definitely is!), but they fail to realize how good he actually is in all the other facets of the game. In this video I want to showcase his exceptional awareness at ruck time and how he looks for weaknesses at ruck time to spot when the ball is out.
This is something that happens regularly in rugby at ruck time, where a player would disband from the ruck, but the defence will fail to notice it. At the end of the clip I showed instances in random games where the opportunity arises for a defending team to get a turnover, but they're not focusing on what is in front of them. You can test this out in any game, this happens 3-4 times in any game.
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@lukedempsey1784 2 жыл бұрын

Tricky one for a ref to judge in game. Especially that the loss of bind tends to occur late in the ruck phase, when a ref's focus is usually on ensuring that the defensive line is offside, they will rarely ever see the loss of bind and will just see a mammoth bokke on the wrong side. Amazing video though keep it up :)

@tasanalytics 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, this is something I think you have to tell the ref beforehand so that he keeps this in mind. I don't blame them for missing this. This is just a case of Eben being very smart. If I was Eben I would let the coaches and captain take this to the ref before a game so that they know what to look for.

@sachanminnaar9424 2 жыл бұрын

Usually such technicalities are discussed with the match official prior to the game to get that edge at ruck time. Any team attempting this out of the blue will most certainly get penalised.

@tasanalytics 2 жыл бұрын

@@sachanminnaar9424 Agree with you, I do think it's something the captain should bring up before a game when they talk to the officials. I just wanted to point out how smart Eben is for knowing it. Not a lot of players have that type of awareness.

@sachanminnaar9424 2 жыл бұрын

@@tasanalytics Yes indeed, totally agree with you! Many people do not realise off field ref management is so important ! Eben is one of the best at disrupting opposition ball.

@lukedempsey1784 2 жыл бұрын

@@sachanminnaar9424 this off field management, I really think that's what often separates the good and great captains, and probably why some players who are not the superstar of a side are captain.Rory Best for Ireland a few years back is an example. I wonder though given the sheer amount of "edges" teams look for with officiating if Eben's trickery gets brought up by the captain

@johanroodt2371 2 жыл бұрын

Love it! Eben is often overlooked for what he bring beyond the physical. Don't think many people see his rugby IQ. not to mention how much work he does and the athleticism to carry and move a frame like that around the park. For his sake I hope no more COVID interruptions as he deserves to be one of the most capped Springboks of all time.

@SARUGBY101 2 жыл бұрын

I completely agree with you bro that's why I made this Tribute for him kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n5iolbKL0L7eeWw.html

@theultimatesharpshooter6734 2 жыл бұрын

At top level most players in these international teams have high rugby IQ's. Making good decisions and spotting chances 90% of the time is what makes a world class player.

@makingmoneywitheclipse8309 2 жыл бұрын

@@SARUGBY101 Fantastic Tribute Sir❤❤

@MakingMoneyAFRICA 2 жыл бұрын

@@SARUGBY101 Wow I Subscribed to your Channel

@SARUGBY101 2 жыл бұрын

@@MakingMoneyAFRICA wow I saw 🙂, thanks for the support

@nikamelia8715 2 жыл бұрын

1:16 Kitshoff purposefully made him unbind so others could go on ball. this is a great rugby right here

@tasanalytics 2 жыл бұрын

Haha I don't think it was entirely legal but it was definitely smart. I think we can classify that as the dark arts! But I do wish players would work together like in that instance. I think it would be more effective if one guys tries to disrupt the ruck (By forcing them to disband) then the other guy can just wait until he sees a guy losing his bind, so that he can go for the turnover.

@gametrekkerisoic 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. I learned a lot.

@canadiancontent352 2 жыл бұрын

Another great video Rassie, your range is impressive

@tasanalytics 2 жыл бұрын

Just getting ready for my hearing 😉

@canadiancontent352 2 жыл бұрын

@@tasanalytics lol! Good luck to you! We all know blaming the capitol hill storming on is BS!

@judemitchell9410 2 жыл бұрын

How is a South African lock better at refereeing than an *international* ref

@tasanalytics 2 жыл бұрын

Yep, I feel bad for Eben sometimes. It must suck as a player to know the laws around the rucks, but it's completely negated because most of the refs don't know about it.

@headintheclouds6935 2 жыл бұрын

Eben only has eyes for the binding and the ball. the referee is looking for offsides, foul play, etc.

@cliftonboyz1959 2 жыл бұрын

@@headintheclouds6935 so if eben goes for it and gets penalized?

@headintheclouds6935 2 жыл бұрын

@@cliftonboyz1959 He'd be penalized. but Eben is smart. he knows to look at the ref and slowly approach. Every ref will either allow him to go for it or tell him to go back and it won't be a penalty then. it's why Eben does it in the video

@MiniMatthew 2 жыл бұрын

Ref has a lot more to look at...

@arnardventer5783 2 жыл бұрын

Great Analysis

@mateocano4733 2 жыл бұрын

Great job, Bro. Thanx!

@adamalucard1288 2 жыл бұрын

Some of these bind call outs dont seem correct, one arm unbinds but from our perspective to me its clear the other hand is still very bound: speaking on the first two rucks

@adriaanterblanche7041 2 жыл бұрын

I think if there is no daylight when the player changes his bind at the ruck then the defending player (player attacking the ruck) is looking to be penalised if he tries to play the ball. That being said I love the way Eben puts pressure on the attacking team at ruck time

@gavinmcgrath2303 2 жыл бұрын

Offside at every ruck, surely. Hindmost foot?

@tasanalytics 2 жыл бұрын

He's not offside, in most cases there is no SA player in the ruck so the offside line for SA is behind the backside of the ball carrier. Eben is always behind the offside line, he waits until he sees a player from the ruck disbanding. If he sees it and the ball is under or behind that player, he knows the ball is out so he can go for the ball. However, it is difficult for the ref to see. This is something a captain would need to bring up beforehand so that he knows to focus on it. I just wanted to point out how smart Eben is for knowing this. I've never seen other players with that type of awareness around a ruck.

@ebenroodt7848 2 жыл бұрын

Sign this guy up to be a TMO!!!

@moosa9850 2 жыл бұрын

Even though he was offside in the first clip, I'm amazed you didn't pick that one up, then again you looking at it from a biased point of view, ps I'm a neutral just to let you know, I just love the sport of rugby

@tasanalytics 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe learn the rules then you'll notice he was not offside. You come here not knowing how the offside lines work then you try to accuse me of bein biased? Also the video is about Eben Etzebeth so how am I being biased towards any team? I'm Analysing Eben Etzebeth so obviously I'm going to put a spotlight on him and what he does. So why are you accusing me of being biased? makes absolutely no sense at all. But yeah, please learn your offside lines and come back again.

@moosa9850 2 жыл бұрын

@@tasanalytics OK sorry you know rugby better than all of us. His not behind the last person in the ruck I definitely need to learn my rules thanks for the reminder

@tasanalytics 2 жыл бұрын

@@moosa9850 You do realize it was a tackles situation and not a ruck? also you do realize the offside line for SA is the backside of the ball carrier on the ground? Go check the World Rugby law on tackles and rucks. You're the one who claimed I missed him being offside because I was biased. Don't start getting feelings when I point out you were wrong

@Amandla-Awethu 2 жыл бұрын

Refs don’t seem to pick it up much

@johanventer5730 2 жыл бұрын

Very good video thaks. If a profesional player can learn and play the rules of rugby then for sure the referee can learn it as well. The ref is not actively involved as an player and must be aware of almost everything, especially at a ruck..

@saffamatt8612 2 жыл бұрын

It’s not just about releasing the bind. The bond should be a full arm bind. If it’s not a full arm bind, the player protecting the ball is not bound and the ball is then out.

@Albusdumbledore840 9 ай бұрын

What do you mean?

@TychoRasch 8 ай бұрын

@@Albusdumbledore840 from the laws of the game: Binding: Grasping another player’s body firmly between the shoulders and the hips with the whole arm in contact from hand to shoulder. This means this video is focussing on the wrong thing. Basically if the shoulder disconnects from the player in front, the bind is released.

@Albusdumbledore840 8 ай бұрын

@@TychoRasch oh thanks

@oc4094 2 жыл бұрын

For exemple at 4:17, is it allowed for Itoje to take part of the wrestling in the ruck and so to move back the line ? Because he is not on his foot, no ? Sorry for my english...

@tasanalytics 2 жыл бұрын

He is definitely off his feet and should not be allowed to be part of the ruck (should be penalty for SA). But refs miss that all the time (even though it's so easy to spot). So you are 100% correct with what you are saying

@ryanvanrensburg6073 2 жыл бұрын

Whats with the morbid music?

@TheAseer2020 21 сағат бұрын

Is the reff supposed to make a hand/arm gesture when the ruck is over? Some time it looms like the reff stretches out both arms to the side. This video points out how the devil is in the details, and for me another reason why Rugby needs at least a second reff on the field. Both sides of the break down and Scrum should have its own reff.

@ibmathshelp 2 жыл бұрын

This is class - I wish Etzebeth was a kiwi, what a player.

@MrBreakdownBoy 2 жыл бұрын

Eben knows the laws more than the refs who don't seem to know their jobs.

@michaelkeegan9260 2 жыл бұрын

Captains need the ability to force a tmo review give them 1 white card a half and if they are right they keep it to use again. If the call the ref made doesn't fit the criteria of clear and obvious it gets reversed. Same for an obvious infringement the ref ignores. At the end of play/next time ball goes dead pull the card and get it reviewed. Things like that should be challenged. So many times etzebeth is telling the ref the player is unbound but if the ref doesn't acknowledge he doesn''t dare go for the ball because the penalty will go against him for offside. If he can steal that ball and the white card gives South Africa possession when the ref is wrong then he will have the ability to effect that turn over. The net effect will be that teams will be forced to stop illegally unbinding and rebinding causing more turnovers.

@papaluskask999 2 жыл бұрын

Play to the ref Not the rules or laws. It's interpretation of ref that you should play by.

@JVIMTM 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Refs are only human and have a lot to monitor and wont catch everything but will also prioritize accordingly and as effectively as possible and more importantly each ref interprets and prioritizes in their own way and as such every player should always play 'to the whistle' not 'for the whistle'..

@davej6254 Жыл бұрын

What's with the music 🎶

@werieawesome8530 2 жыл бұрын

World rugby player of the year right here!🇿🇦

@headintheclouds6935 2 жыл бұрын

personally for me that's Lukhanyo Am! he's been the key to the boks so far

@werieawesome8530 2 жыл бұрын

@@headintheclouds6935 he is definitly the best outside centre in the world (and Damian is the best inside centre as well) but world rugby recently named their top 5 contenters and sadly Am was not mentioned😥 but I truly think he will then be SA player of the year❤ (The 5 who are picked are): 1. Eben Etzebeth 2. Antoine Dupont 3. Maro Itjoe 4. Siya Kolisi 5. Jordie Barrett

@headintheclouds6935 2 жыл бұрын

@@werieawesome8530 robbery imo... personally think Am should be in above Barrett and maybe itoje (he's class just a bit poor in the 6N).

@werieawesome8530 2 жыл бұрын

@@headintheclouds6935 totally agree with you on Itoje... he is so overrated... however I do belive Barrett was player of the Rugby Championship this year but they should square up the stats between the 2 and I am sure Am wil top him

@headintheclouds6935 2 жыл бұрын

@@werieawesome8530 Im more of the mind Barrett is a bit overrated. either way I'm still a bit stunned Am wasn't finalized...jeez!

@canadiancontent352 2 жыл бұрын

Cool story Rassie

@ReadTheBible001 2 жыл бұрын

Just watched a video on Etsebet Tribute.

@mnnh3317 2 жыл бұрын

So the “disbanding” happens for a split second which the ref almost never catches and you go charging in to take the ball…..and proceed to give away a penalty for going offside … Barely worth the trouble if you ask me. The refs simply aren’t that sharp to spot these split second infringements…..

@Albusdumbledore840 9 ай бұрын

You should go if it is obvious though

@dustinfleetwood7167 2 жыл бұрын

This is a great channel but why always the sad dramatic classical music?

@tasanalytics 2 жыл бұрын

To be honest, I just screw around with the music. Sometimes I use classical stuff and other times more upbeat. So don't really have an answer to that😂

@chansachiteba8153 2 жыл бұрын

Why aren't the refs allowing Eben to steal the ball for a turnover?

@Rodz-vg2el 2 жыл бұрын

Off side all day, unless the ref says it out the ruck then play, not tell the ref its out then go. Lots of things wrong with coming off side and the ball is still in the ruck. Enter through the ruck not around the sides.

@saffaadventures365 2 жыл бұрын

If the ball is out then there is no ruck so he can go past the side. When a player is not bound, he is no longer part of the ruck, thus he is not protecting the ball by standing over it. He is now just standing over a loose ball on the field. That being said, the bound law is a bit intense, maybe they should just make it that you need to be connected.

@luketyler823 2 жыл бұрын

wtf is with the music though?...

@brianmsahin 2 жыл бұрын

Great to see a video where you're not complaining about the referees not protecting your delicate players in the URC ? However you might be right, can't remember who but one your guys slipped while playing, got injured and had to be taken off. I'm a bit suspicious that the pitch was biased against the South African teams. And I said it too at the ladies coffee morning and they all agreed that the match officials, the weather, the pitches, the ball, the try line, and the goal posts were all biased and the European players are far too rough, and it's not that the SA teams are shite. 😉

@bbwt9991 2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍

@matthewduff1006 2 жыл бұрын

Your idea of bind disbanding is completely subjective to the opinion of a ref. You stated 'the moment when the bind disbands'. In the eyes of most refs, altering ones grip is not disbanding bind, which is why refs ignore ebens pestering and offsideness.

@tasanalytics 2 жыл бұрын

Do you even read what I'm saying in the description? Are you offended by my other videos on officiating where I clearly indicated how bad it was. Sounds like it. I'll say again, this video has absolutely nothing to do with officiating. Read the title, it's player analysis. I'm showing what Eben is seeing. Most cases he was right (The AUS one was tight because I don't he completely disbanded, although I understand what Eben sees). But again, I did not target the officiating. If you also read the other comments, you'll notice that I said this is something a team would have to bring up to the official before a game because it's highly possible the average official is going to miss it. Especially with how bad they are in recent times. So funny how you guys think officials are Gods and deserve no criticism 😂😂

@matthewduff1006 2 жыл бұрын

@@tasanalytics never said anything abt godlike officials. Of course this is about officiating, eben is attempting to bend rules

@tasanalytics 2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewduff1006 Bending the rules by following the rules? never heard of that one before. Great comment

@conor1722 2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewduff1006 bending the rules by playing completely within them? sounds like you've got your wires crossed there kid.

@matthewduff1006 2 жыл бұрын

@@conor1722 he’s bending the rules and failing to do so in all these examples the ref ignores him lmap

@bremCZ 2 жыл бұрын

Bound, not binded.

@boloking7717 2 жыл бұрын

Still lost :D

@fencepost8478 2 жыл бұрын

He seems to be offside nearly every time, according to the pedantic standards of your previous analysis.

@tasanalytics 2 жыл бұрын

So can you explain to me how it can be offside if he is behind the offside line until the ball is out. Eben always waits until a player at the back of ruck disbands from the guys in front of him. As soon as that happens, the ball is out and there is no offside line. As long as he waits for the ball to be out he is fine. So nope, he is not offside.

@TW-ks3pn 2 жыл бұрын

@@tasanalytics in literally the first clip there's a SA player in the ruck who he's stood in front of until AWJ loses the bind. Second clip, leading front in front of the offside line.

@tasanalytics 2 жыл бұрын

@@TW-ks3pn Dude you clearly have no idea what a ruck means and how offside lines are formed. This is not the first time where you commented something completely wrong. Go check up the laws around rucks, tackles and then also offside lines.

@matthewduff1006 2 жыл бұрын

@@tasanalytics literally in the first example there is an SA bloke being dragged in making him offside. Your views are impossible to follow logically as a ref, you simply appeal to increased ref interjection and longer TMO times which is one of the main reasons rugby is being criticised atm.

@tasanalytics 2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewduff1006 First off, this video has absolutely nothing to do with the ref. I'm pointing out how smart of a player Eben is. I'll say the same to you, go check the rules surrounding rucks, tackles and offside lines. You have no idea how it works then you make a comment like that. You do realize Mapimpi is not part of the Ruck? do you know that? He does not make the offside line for Eben. The Offside line is the backside of Lions 9. Go check back on the rules surrounding tackles, then you will notice not one player of SA is part of the ruck, meaning the offside lines are not created by any of the SA players. Like please, know your rules before you try and criticize, also maybe read the description of the videos first. Might help you before you try to be smart.

@RadioRadio101 11 ай бұрын

But he doesn't...

@gerrardruthven5115 2 жыл бұрын

Unless the ref sees it too it’s kind of pointless, he’s just gonna get penalised.

@kwandangubane9419 2 жыл бұрын

Boks must come to terms. They will always play 16 men

@Jay-Pee1958 2 жыл бұрын

they must fine refs for bad games ...

@lloydndlovu9502 2 жыл бұрын

They ruin good Games and the Sport itself 😔

@guttos9076 2 жыл бұрын

This is nothing particularly extra-ordinary. I note late arrival at rucks and mauls. Also ....like most South Africans... appeals to the referee as though its a cricket match

@Lewiez 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, your lack of knowledge regarding rugby laws are astonishing... Yet you still think so much of yourself.

@HarlanPhilly 2 жыл бұрын

Still not as good as Itoje

@mikedangerdoes 2 жыл бұрын

Rucks are a mess. And while I'm not sure I want to live in a world with this level of scrutiny to bindings, I would be happy with less of these ridiculous, human-centipede-like rucks for box kicks.

@tasanalytics 2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha not gonna lie, that is the best description I've heard for those types of rucks. But I have to agree, it just doesn't look right. I wouldn't mind seeing less, that would definitely decrease the amount of box kicks

@jojohehe3251 10 ай бұрын

In many of these examples, there's no ruck whatsoever because there isn't a defending player bound to an attacking player. To my way of thinking, it's really not relevant if players from the attacking team are bound to one another or not, and the defenders could attack this "ruck" formation from any direction as no off-side line is formed. Is that right?