As of 8/23/2022, you have 6,771 views & 138 likes!! Good job!

@@johnmoorefield76 We're blown away by how many views we've had on the channel so far. We appreciate all the support!

We appreciate the support of a fellow yearly winter survivor! Thank you!

Thank you for the view and comment!

We'll have to check Visionking optics out! In the future, if ammo prices ever drop, I would like to try more match grade ammo or custom loads in both rifles. Appreciate the view and comment!

We've considered revisiting this comparison and doing a better overall job lol. We appreciate the input and ideas! I need to get better software for the microphone if we're going to use it more honestly.

The ammo was certainly a pain to aquire when this was filmed. We tried to find a good assortment of cheap and higher quality to give people of all budgets options. Thanks for the view, comments, and sub!

I have an older Savage 110 that I like very much. Upon handling an Axis, I was disappointed in how ridiculously heavy the bolt lift was. Probably still a good shooter though, it's a Savage.

That's fantastic! Always funny how are preferences evolve. I'm pretty flexible when it comes to guns, I would like them all! Thanks for the view and comment. - Patrick

I would be curious to try S&B 168's, the Igman 168gr ammo wasn't great.

We've shot the Axis II out to 500yds using 308 and 6.5 creedmoor rifles. Pretty solid starting gun, I wish our groupings better represented their accuracy but first videos are tough lol. I've been wanting a 300blk bolt gun and the Ruger American seems to feel better in my hands than the Savage version.

Both are good options for deer hunting and can survive some inclement weather for sure. We've got a video coming out about the new optic we put on the Savage that's budget friendly but has some great features. We appreciate the viewership and comment!

I'm kind of partial to the Savage but that's probably because I own an Axis in 308 and an Axis II in 6.5CM. Yeah, the Ruger trigger is lighter out of the box but MCARBO has a trigger kit for the Savage that is stupid easy to install. You don't need the XP version of the Savage either since the scope that comes with it is pretty garbage so save yourself a little money right there.

First thing I did with my Axis is I put a better scope on it!

They offer the axis in a stainless configuration. That's what I got, so no worries about moisture

Both rifles are very manageable, I personally have more time behind the Ruger but have found the Savage to be just fine as well. Personally a Ruger American in 300 blackout is my next bolt gun. Thanks for the view and comment! - Patrick

@@Northwoods.Nobodies I grabbed a savage impulse and love it. Time to show Ruger some love. Thanks for your efforts

@@hammer2917 Which model Impulse do you have?

@@Northwoods.Nobodies I got the 6.5 creedmoor hog hunter with the flush magazine and a 20 inch barrel. I put a vortex on top . It was a learning curve , but it's my favorite rifle right now. Shoots like butter.

@@hammer2917 Sounds like an excellent setup. I'll have to check out the impulse as a future rifle for myself.

We have improved the microphone situation, I believe. Haven't filmed up in the field yet this year but we'll test that soon. The chair had definitely seen better days haha.

It would be interesting to try a load development on both rifles and see what performs best, we appreciate the recommendation with the 150 gr bullets. The Weaver scope certainly is junk and was replaced shortly after this video.

I'm 95% sure we used the PMC 147gr in our zeroing process but I could be wrong. This was all shot and filmed September 2021. Before filming we were satisfied with the zero on both rifles.

Sounds like you've got quite the experience with precision shooting! Solid info, we appreciate that!

That's an excellent group. We will be on the lookout for those rounds for sure. I would've liked some heavier bullets like that at the time we filmed this. We appreciate the comment and view!

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I would have to do a little research to answer that correctly. Great question

I did a little internet browsing and I believe you are correct, the Savage Axis is the same dimensions throughout the calibers. The Ruger American is half an inch longer for 270 win and 30-06 compared to the other calibers.

I believe we did check both Savage and Ruger to verify the receiver screws were tight. It's something you wouldn't think would happen with a brand new rifle but it's absolutely worth checking. Good thing to hear your groupings have improved! I would like to revisit this comparison, especially now that the Savage has more rounds through it. We appreciate you sharing your experience and knowledge!

I'll give that a gander. We weren't happy with the results in all honesty, I know both rifles are plenty capable. We figured we'd post our results and let it roll, we don't always have a great day at the range. We appreciate the view and comment!

And you guys should Invest in a Caldwell solo lead sled there so nice there not that much I think 80-100 bucks but well worth it in long run

@@tylerredneck The Ruger did like the Hornady 155gr and the S&B 150gr in both videos I shot it. Before we shoot groupings again we will definitely pick up a lead sled, we weren't very happy with the groupings we had.

Few things to unpack there, first of all that's an impressive deer so congrats on that. I have a set of bags that I constantly forget to bring, need to build a better range bag. Definitely always looking to improve and I appreciate the tips. Being in front of the camera added an internal clock in my head for sure. There's been enough comments about shooting performance and groupings I may revisit this in the future. Appreciate the views and comments. - Patrick

Always great to hear about women getting involved! It's pretty tough to beat that price for a rifle to start your firearm journey.

There's a few things we could've done better. Next time!

You are not alone in that thought process haha. Little things like that will drive a man crazy!

Your not wrong, both rifles are capable of better groupings. I'm sure with match grade ammo like Federal Gold Medal Match and other high end ammo they would show that. The Hornaday Black was good out of both rifles, the Savage was 1.5 MOA and the Ruger would've been similar if I didn't pull the 3rd shot. Human error will always be apart of accurate shooting. Thanks for the view, sub, and comment - Patrick

Hard to do a accuracy test with nothing to rest the back of the gun on.

@@klo910 I have a set of shooting bags that I always forget to grab. Either we'll invest in a lead sled or I'll build a better range bag that includes the shooting bags.

Lead sled works good. Should definitely help your groups tighten up. Keep up the good videos 👍.

@@klo910 We appreciate the support! We're trying to improve our content and video editing quality.

At 100 yards you are correct. The behind the scenes of this video is this was Mark's first time shooting that distance and we were working with sunset approaching. I should film for groupings going slower between shots. That Savage 110 is a quality rifle for that price range.

And maybe a shooting bench instead of a card table. and sandbags?

Honestly I know nothing about that round. Do you have any experience with it?

YES I DO USED A REM 788 IN .22-250 REM ON WOODCHUCKS IN 71 &72 DEVASTATING ROUND MEAN ASS USED SUPER EXPLOSIVE ROUND DOWN FROM 55GRNSTO A 50GRN BULLET

@@edwardkujawa I talked with Scot about 22-250 ballistics today after reading your reply. It's a damn fast round, pretty impressive stuff. I believe someone in my family has a rifle chambered in 22-250, I'll have to talk with them and see if we can review it.

very potent round could takedeer too but will stick with coyotes and wouldchucks

You are correct and the worst part is I have a set of bags but I almost always forget to bring them to the range.

Or maybe a cargo strap .

Or maybe you could rest your hand on top of barrel , as long as it doesn't effect your view of course , or fix your sling and hold on to strap at front hinge or secure a weight to top sling or hinge , also when in field you could tie a strap or rope to that top sling hinge thus while sighted on strap step on strap , keeping it taught , and hopefully will give an more accurate shot . I don't know , haven't tried it yet, and it will be a while until I shoot again .

I recommend you read some of the other comments on this video. You'll see others experiences and my overall response to the groupings time and time again. We appreciate the view and hope you stick around for other content. First videos are tough.

We were at 100 yards

We will have to give that T/C a look, really comparable for the price. Our friend has a higher end T/C in 6.5 Creedmoor that's really nice.

We will have to try that! Appreciate the tip.

That's about double what I've seen them for lately from places like Cabela's. Import taxes and what not are fun... Hopefully it serves you well!

Hey Mr Boyd. How bout you making a down under video and let me know when you post it. Lucky that you got one before your coward rulers stop you.

Great for tough weather hunting for sure!

That's unfortunate for sure.

I’ve had a savage my whole life and I never cleaned it it still hasn’t rusted

It is impressive how quickly the extra accessories and goodies turn a "cheap" rifle into a $1,000+ firearm.

The Hornady Black would've been better if I hadn't pulled pulled the 3rd shot from the Ruger. The rifles are plenty capable with factory ammo, we just need to be better behind the rifles. Finding, or loading, that sweet spot bullet weight would be ideal.

@Northwoods Nobodies factory ammo is set a length (coal) to run average in all guns when you reload you can fine tune your rounds per gun (cloverleaf ), shots all touching .

@@linescum444 We've got a buddy that reloads, maybe we'll get some 308 from him and give it whirl.

@@Northwoods.Nobodies hek ya happy shooting

It is a pretty good shooter for the price. We were certainly the weak link the day we filmed this.

:)

Next filming session we'll need a cowbell I guess

Probably

Agreed. We've considered revisiting this again in the future due to the less than stellar groupings.

Lil bit haha

The Savage was purchased at Cabela's in Minnesota, September 2021. I know the price has gone up now but watch for sales on it.

I bought a Savage Axis in 6.5 Creedmoor for $299 at cabelas in Columbus ohio two years ago, now they're $399 for the same gun.

We needed a lot of help that day 🤣

That's why I made follow up videos with just myself as the shooter, unfortunately the scope failed internally on the Savage before that video. The groupings weren't as good as expected and we may make a follow up video using a lead sled or something for stability.

@@Northwoods.Nobodies Fair enough.

In most cases won't the human element always be the worst part? 90% of the firearms in the world are probably more accurate than the person behind it. Knowing what we know now and with all the comments talking about the groupings, which aren't stellar I agree, I wouldn't mind revisiting this test in the future. Either way we appreciate the view and comment.

These are really lousy groups. I have a savage axis as a spare gun and it is a tack driver. I have not shot a group with any ammo that Is as huge as these groups are. With match ammo, definitely under 1 inch and even with hunting ammunition, darn good and at worst one and a half inches.

@@Northwoods.Nobodies Apologies, I dont agree that the human element is the worst part. A good shot and a shit rifle does not get good results. I can shoot to 1/4 or 1/3rd MOA with a hunting rifle. I spent 22 yrs in the Brit Armed forces using 2 MOA rifles. Who is the problem, me or the rifle? My groups were the best you could expect of the rifle and 2 MOA was much better than that woeful shooting in your video.

Both are great budget options! We'll have a video coming on the new scope we put on the Savage Axis in the next few weeks. Thank you for watching and commenting.

Need more breaking in it appears.

@@daveditchdigger2111 The Savage was brand new in this video, roughly 50 rounds by the end. We may revisit the rifles in the future and take our time more between shots.

I certainly hope a Remington 700 would beat both those rifles 🤣. I put more stock in us shooting like shit that day but both rifles are plenty capable. Further load development would help as well but both rifles seemed to like Hornady Black. Which makes sense it's the highest quality ammo we had that day.

More than likely it was us. Both rifles are very capable, first videos are tough. We could've scrubbed the whole thing and shot again but we opted to release our findings as they were that day.

Thanks for taking the time to watch our content.

Great to hear! Mark enjoys the 308 and I enjoy my 6.5 Creedmoor Axis.

The price is almost out of "budget" rifle range, over Black Friday the Axis was on sale at Cabela's for $350($300 for a club member). I tend to prefer the Ruger stock as well but I haven't tried the Savage 110 line yet.

@@Northwoods.Nobodies I own two of the savage 110 models one is a savage hog hunter in 338 federal which has become my favorite cartridge and the other is a 110 predator in 243 Winchester. It will stabilize anything from a 55 gr bullet to a 105 Berger. Both gun are definitely a big upgrade. Good videos

@@Rushshooting67913 What do you hunt with the 338 federal? I don't know a whole lot about that cartridge. I would like to get my hands on 110 at some point in the future. I like the quality I've seen from my Savage rifle so far. We appreciate the support!

@@Northwoods.Nobodies yes 338 federal. It’s kind of the cartridge nobody has ever heard about. At the same time it was supposed to be released hornady released a cartridge we all know the 6.5 creed. Which basically took all the press away from the 338. It’s a 308 win necked up to accept 338 bullets. However it’s a light magnum in performance. I can push a 160 gr bullet at 3050 fps giving it around 3400 ft pounds of energy. Which puts it on par or surpassing the 7mm mag. With 200gr to 215 gr bullets I can get 2650 to 2700fps all out of a 20” barrel. It’s devastating on deer. But the gun has a nice stock and action on it. At the time which was about 5 years ago I paid 399 for the gun.

@@Rushshooting67913 I had heard of 338 Federal but didn't realize the performance of it. That is impressive! It's funny how what caliber picks up all the press and others fall through the crack. Great info!

If you're looking to buy a new rifle both have left hand offerings. Both have pretty nice actions with the Savage possibly being a little smoother in my opinion. I haven't used a new Ruger American lately but I doubt they've made any major changes, the one used in the video was a used gun when I got it. - Patrick