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Rumors Swirl As Catholics Wait To See If The TLM Will Be Banned By Rome

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@Hillbilly_jim
@Hillbilly_jim Ай бұрын
Our Lady of Mount Carmel, pray for us.
@miryambarnabas2424
@miryambarnabas2424 Ай бұрын
Amen! Happy anniversary! 🙏🏼🕊️🙏🏼
@1romancatholic
@1romancatholic Ай бұрын
Amen
@mirtarubalcava8984
@mirtarubalcava8984 Ай бұрын
We got word at Mass this past Sunday that the Vatican gave our Archdiocese of San Antonio permission to continue celebrating the Latin Mass for 2 more years! Praise God from whom all blessings flow.
@Adeofactusest
@Adeofactusest Ай бұрын
Is this at St. Timothy?
@mariamartin94
@mariamartin94 Ай бұрын
This is great news! Why would the Vatican grant that extension if they’re about to release a document banning the TLM? Perhaps the rumors are unfounded. Oremus🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@geraldfitzpatrick5294
@geraldfitzpatrick5294 Ай бұрын
Where in SA?
@ArrozConPollllo
@ArrozConPollllo Ай бұрын
YESSSS!!!
@williamtate785
@williamtate785 Ай бұрын
Any prelate banning the TLM should be visited by St Michael the Archangel ❤🙏
@miryambarnabas2424
@miryambarnabas2424 Ай бұрын
Great Idea! 🙌🕊️🙌 (Have subscribed to Your Channel!)
@williamtate785
@williamtate785 Ай бұрын
@@miryambarnabas2424 Thanks; the last 3 days have been hectic! On call Fri night; scrubbed in on a mvr, vsd, & avr, thanks to Jesus. On Saturday @ 6:11 pm, my colleagues & myself prayed 🙏 multiple rosaries for President Donald J TRUMP ( many of them aren't Catholic yet; in time they will be, praise Jesus 🙏❤
@RedTailedHawk27
@RedTailedHawk27 Ай бұрын
Yall enjoy the pain. Look how many are falling for the donald drumf.
@concernedcitizen780
@concernedcitizen780 Ай бұрын
The St Micheal pray was actually thrown out from certain churches. It used to be done routinely and the end of the mass.
@brandywineblue
@brandywineblue Ай бұрын
Anyone who thinks praying the Rosary during Mass is not participating in the Mass better study up on the Mass and the mysteries of the Rosary! They have everything to do with each other!!!
@user-pg5xt4bq4w
@user-pg5xt4bq4w Ай бұрын
I think it’s because people don’t meditate on the mysteries not like I’m a mystic but when I pray the rosary the same vision and feelings and emotion come to mind during the Mass and every movement made by the priest should invoke that prayer/thought/emotion of being at the foot of the cross
@mgm153
@mgm153 Ай бұрын
@@user-pg5xt4bq4w The mass is a celebration with the congregants there and the spirit of Christ. There is nothing wrong with praying the Rosary. But why would you have an entirely different conversation with someone if you are talking with them? Similarly, I don't change the discussion of the mass to suit my own internal desires or thoughts. I don't think Jesus or God would scold you, but they might ask, why are you not participating with everyone there? Jesus seemed to be very present with those he was with. I want to do that honor to everyone else I am celebrating the mass with. Pray on it, however, I doubt he says don't be cohesive with those around you.
@user-pg5xt4bq4w
@user-pg5xt4bq4w Ай бұрын
@@mgm153 Mass is in fact the representation of Calvary not a symbol or the last supper but the Passion of Our Blessed Lord aka Good Friday it’s the only thing the Father excepts for the forgiveness of our sins, think of who we had in that present moment, you had Christ on the cross, Mary at the foot of the cross, John, Mary Magdalene weeping at the foot of the cross, the repentant Disamas, the unrepentant also crucified, those who said “if you come down we will believe” those who said mocking the Lord huh isn’t that Jesus the carpenters son, ironic a carpenter nailed to wood, but the Mass goes way deeper then that it goes back to creation when Eve ate the fruit, The point is you had all types say all things for all time, saying and with your spirit can be participating at Mass and so can the Rosary, and so can sitting quietly praying and making your offering on the altar as Jesus offers himself for our sins on the cross, yes I am extremely happy and ever in debt to the Lord for what he did, but if we had seen the Word made flesh hanging from a cross I don’t think many words would be said or participation is needed, but many tears would be flowing
@patrickoconnor6979
@patrickoconnor6979 Ай бұрын
We as a society have sold out to the world. The ""modern church" has downgraded the beauty of the old catholicism. When we lived more simply,we looked forward to the feast day's of the Saints as a day of celebration and gathering in Christian friendship. Many of these feast days are no longer remembered by many Catholics.
@Skyward2Heaven
@Skyward2Heaven Ай бұрын
Yes, if we are truly Catholic people should be able to tell us apart from the world. Are we living in the will of God? Heaven help us return to tradition.🙏
@lorih9182
@lorih9182 Ай бұрын
Yes, bc too many feast days were changed to Sunday! I don't know how many places I saw people on social media commenting on Sunday "happy feast of Our Lady of Carmel " on Sunday. 😢
@fairyspunfibers9098
@fairyspunfibers9098 Ай бұрын
Safe travels, Anthony and family! May God go with you all, His Angels and Saints be with you! 🙏🙏🙏
@miryambarnabas2424
@miryambarnabas2424 Ай бұрын
Amen in Agreement with you Dear Friend! ❤
@josemont4291
@josemont4291 Ай бұрын
The official language of the Roman Catholic Church is and has always been LATIN, doesn't it? Are we then denying our Church identity? Imagine Muslims prohibited praying in Arabic!? Or Jewish people stop praying in Hebtew!??
@thomasaquinas6628
@thomasaquinas6628 Ай бұрын
Use of Latin really isn't the issue. The NO Mass is a radically stripped-down version of the Mass, with, compared to the TLM, many prayers removed and some revised. The NO Mass has been called the "Dialogue" Mass, and the "Dialogue" is not with God....
@mgm153
@mgm153 Ай бұрын
@@thomasaquinas6628 If in your spirit you are communing with God, you in fact are dialoguing with God. I have no dog in this fight. I simply think it is silly for the Church to say for those who find greater peace in the TLM that they cannot do it. God is not going to worry about the language spoken on earth (so no I don't agree that to say a true mass it must be in Latin as if God speaks or asks for that). However, I don't think he cuts off any roads to those those who find something sacred, certainly not language choice.
@janeserovy666
@janeserovy666 Ай бұрын
There is a traditional Latin mass being said at the Eucharistic Congress in Indianapolis. Unless that changes.
@miryambarnabas2424
@miryambarnabas2424 Ай бұрын
Great Show Dear Brother Anthony! I appreciate your hard work! Ave Maria! 🌹
@CatholicCat-er9xn
@CatholicCat-er9xn Ай бұрын
Morning, dear MirY'am!
@miryambarnabas2424
@miryambarnabas2424 Ай бұрын
​@@CatholicCat-er9xnMorning my Beautiful Friend! So good to see you! Ave Maria! 🌹
@miryambarnabas2424
@miryambarnabas2424 Ай бұрын
Thank you Dear Brother Anthony! 🌹🌹
@owensclock
@owensclock Ай бұрын
Whatever happens it's extremely unfortunate and sad that there are those in the Vatican who regard the two thousand year old Traditional Latin Liturgy as an enemy to be conquered..
@Jeff-fv8qk
@Jeff-fv8qk Ай бұрын
Safe driving Anthony! God Bless
@irisaranjo8752
@irisaranjo8752 Ай бұрын
Lord Jesus I Trust in Thee.
@miryambarnabas2424
@miryambarnabas2424 Ай бұрын
Am watching you again! 🌹🕊️🌹Ave Maria!
@xotan
@xotan Ай бұрын
Saint Peter lived in Rome and was martyred there. I wonder what language did he speak when there? Didn't Romans speak Latin? An in order to reach Roman Christians, what language would Peter have spoken? Latin of course. And it would have been in Latin that he would have celebrated the Eucharist there. So what is the problem with the Latin Mass? It was brought down to us, even into my lifetime in, what I perceive to have been an unbroken line. So it links us back to Peter, and through him to Our Lord Himself. While not wishing to abolish Mass in the vernacular, I am appalled by the thought that a successor of Peter could/would wish to break that very precious link. Precious firstly because of the link back to the apostles, martyrs and to Jesus himself through Peter. It is a treasure of the Church, and its importance cannot be overstated. Throughout the ages the scholars and saint knew and loved it, but now it has been relegated to a secondary role, whereas it should be loved and honoured, for it contains the history of our faith, and is the most accessible sign of what gives that faith its signa;validity though Latin's unbroken line down to our own times. Any Pope who breaks that line is no successor to Saint Peter, does no honour to the martyrs in Rome, and is engaging in the protestantising of Peter's and Jesus' flock!
@fairyspunfibers9098
@fairyspunfibers9098 Ай бұрын
@xotan Well said, well.said! Ave Maria! 🙏🙏🙏
@femaleKCRoyalsFan
@femaleKCRoyalsFan Ай бұрын
Good point....maybe a sermon in Hebrew though?..like at our tlm we have the homily in English.
@miryambarnabas2424
@miryambarnabas2424 Ай бұрын
​@@fairyspunfibers9098Amen!
@johnmorgan4313
@johnmorgan4313 Ай бұрын
Father Michael Mueller, died 1899, in his "The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass" states that when St. Peter went to Rome, the first Mass he said, IN ROME, was in Latin. Of course when in Judea, etc, St Peter said Mass in Aramaic probably or Greek. Thus TRADITION of Mass in LATIN was established. Church teaching stands on TRADITION, the Latin Vulgate Bible & the Magisterium. See online the Apostolic Constitution QUO PRIMUM issued 1570 by POPE SAINT PIUS FIFTH codifying & Canonising the LATIN MASS and Dogmatic Council of TRENT Session 7 Canon 13 online Denzinger-Schonmetzer 677, 856 & 1613 & Fr. Paul KRAMER "The Suicide of Altering the Faith in Her Liturgy"
@johnjoyce1958
@johnjoyce1958 Ай бұрын
The Holy land was under Roman Rule at the time of Jesus. So I think people would have been able to speak Latin as well as Hebrew. Also at Pentecost the Apostles were given the charism of multiple languages that they didn't know or spoke. So take your pick! 🙏
@miryambarnabas2424
@miryambarnabas2424 Ай бұрын
You're looking well Dear Brother Anthony! : Your holiday is doing you good! ❤
@ericlauridsen5193
@ericlauridsen5193 Ай бұрын
The appeal letter of the British Poets and artists published last July 3 probably made some positive effect just like the Agatha Christie indult...I pray that that may be the case. Our Lady of Mount Carmel, Pray for us. Amen.
@suegreene1
@suegreene1 Ай бұрын
Have smooth trip, and I'll pray for you in my afternoon prayers. ¡Viva Cristo Rey! from Spain
@harmonygordon6901
@harmonygordon6901 Ай бұрын
🌹 Ave Maria
@frankd.5424
@frankd.5424 Ай бұрын
Are we all Lutherans yet???
@JackieArmB
@JackieArmB Ай бұрын
My TLM priest has often said it was okay to pay the rosary during Mass. Our grandmothers did this a lot. One time, I was even instructed to pray the rosary during the Mass for penance.
@AppealToHeaven
@AppealToHeaven Ай бұрын
Since coming to the TLM a year ago, I've found myself more actively engaged with the Liturgy than ever before... prayerfully, mentally, physically. Modernists dont understand nor want to.
@armanddimeo6575
@armanddimeo6575 Ай бұрын
It is now after 2:30 PM Rome time and nothing so far. This does not rule out that it could drop on a later date.
@1romancatholic
@1romancatholic Ай бұрын
14:58 Sept a document? Perhaps on Our Lady of Sorrows feastday. They seem to like adding to them. (Okay….A wee bit snarky, admittedly 😅)
@fraslavko1
@fraslavko1 Ай бұрын
Is the TLM too ancient to be followed any more ? Well I guess the "OUR FATHER'" given iby Jesus, will be banned as well ?
@carolynkimberly4021
@carolynkimberly4021 Ай бұрын
Francis did change some of the words. He disagrees with "lead us not into temptation".
@KateKing217
@KateKing217 Ай бұрын
I wonder why the Vatican publishes “bad news documents” on special feast days ⁉️is that intentional ⁉️idk, it seems cruel and unkind 😢🙏🏾 I don’t get it
@patrickfahey6722
@patrickfahey6722 Ай бұрын
What.....the Church is basically banning itself?
@concernedcitizen780
@concernedcitizen780 Ай бұрын
It may be the cause of their own loss of Catholics and finances. Surprise!
@normaavelarpalacio5337
@normaavelarpalacio5337 Ай бұрын
Hello Mr. Stein, I live in Guadalajara, Jalisco Mexico. The Cardinal from Mexico that is mentioned here is Cardinal here in Guadalajara. He is also one of the five Cardinals who called Pope Francis out together with Cardinal Burke, Cardinal Zen, Cardinal Sarah, and can't remember the other Cardinal, sorry, on Fiducia supplicans (I believe). His name is Cardinal Juan Sandoval Iñigues. ❤
@BrianBenson-rc9mu
@BrianBenson-rc9mu Ай бұрын
Hello from USA! There is a valid Latin mass with valid priest in Colima.
@victorbaltov1808
@victorbaltov1808 Ай бұрын
Do we still sing at Mass: "Faith of our Fathers, Holy Faith, we will true to Thee till death?"
@maryelisabeth7167
@maryelisabeth7167 Ай бұрын
Sometimes !
@Leocomander
@Leocomander Ай бұрын
A video responding on why the Reform of the Reform is a bust would be great. Specially one arguing against the idea that the Novus Ordo was supposed to be Tridentizined.
@JackieArmB
@JackieArmB Ай бұрын
Pope St. Pius V, pray for us.
@challengable
@challengable Ай бұрын
ACTIVE PARTICIPATION! Is nothing more than the modernist perversion of the holiness, the supernatural obedience, the actions man takes to submit himself to supernatural divine love during the supernatural sacrifice of the SUPERNATURAL HOLY KINGSHIP DIVINELY INHERENT IN THE HOLY MASS. Resist these modernist impostors to their faces. Conversion or excommunication are their choices. God Bless
@mgm153
@mgm153 Ай бұрын
At some point what is supernatural is natural. Otherwise you are never going to be in the Father just as Jesus is. God is. God is natural and supernatural. Or maybe Jesus saying the kingdom of heaven is before you while on earth has no meaning as it was only supernaturally true. I tend to think the long game is when making the inner like the outer this has to do also with what we can see now and what we should be seeing.
@challengable
@challengable Ай бұрын
@@mgm153 sorry, you don’t have the theology needed to uphold the Kingship of the Trinity. Study more
@fairyspunfibers9098
@fairyspunfibers9098 Ай бұрын
Yes, a Pope IS bound by prior Papal "de Fide" Magisterial Teachings. The Code of Canon Law *never* supersedes Magisterial Teaching, period. It is merely to codify all in one place, both Magisterial Teachings and the disciplines of the Church _as they apply to the Teachings and to members of the Faith._ To some degree, it is binding, but only the disciplines can change with each Pope...never, ever the Teachings. Even then, not at a mere Papal whim, but only for the strengthening of the Faithful, can Disciplines be changed. I'm sure the TLM-haters hold that the Bull, Quo Primum, is somehow not Magisterial in nature. Well, I for one, disagree. Yes. Yes, it is.
@espressocoffeeshine4346
@espressocoffeeshine4346 Ай бұрын
Pope Leo XIII in a document recommended praying the rosary during Mass. The modernists first claimed Quo Primum was not really dogma because they argued the Mass is a disciple and not a doctrine of faith or morals. But Trent said in a dogma that an apostolic Rite with a capital R, could not be replaced with an all new Rite with a capital R. That is indeed a matter of faith and morals, and is now dogma, because popes have a moral obligation to pass down what they received. Trent also ended the creating of new secondary liturgies like the Dominican liturgy which cannot be banned with a dogma. They could have lifted that ban and created a secondary use liturgy leaving the TLM as the ordinary form of the Roman Rite, but they cannot censure priests who offer the TLM, or the faithful who attend them. The New Novel Rite does not fit the definition of a secondary use liturgy, it's a new Rite with a capital R and is thus it is illicit and schismatic and we are experiencing a material schism in the Church because of it! The very nature of a dogma is that a pope is binding all Catholics at the present moment and in the future including all future popes! Anything less is just a discipline! That the faithful Catholics and Catholic theologian cannot figure out what is Catholic teaching unless it is on the level of dogma only. Is why modernists are in triumph, they are telling you, you can ignore the lower levels of the magisterium. They are telling you, you cannot act unless it is dogma, even when it's already infallible doctrine. The magisterium is not the rule of faith, scripture and tradition are the Catholic rules of faith, we can know the faith and act on it, when it's not yet part of the magisterium. They are telling you, you cannot learn from scripture and tradition, only from the top level of the magisterium, then they are claiming the top level of the magisterium is not really the top level! Is it prudent for the Catholic media to act like modernists are correct when they engage in false accusations and intentional confusion? Stop paying the modernists at their phony toll booths, and throw the books at them!
@FreeAmerican-mm2my
@FreeAmerican-mm2my Ай бұрын
it was to be released today following the events on Saturday. We would have not been attentive if Saturday had been different.
@concernedcitizen780
@concernedcitizen780 Ай бұрын
What was holy 400 years ago is holy today
@user-cw3gn1wz8p
@user-cw3gn1wz8p Ай бұрын
Guai a te Citta del Vaticano!
@FleshEatingBeagle
@FleshEatingBeagle Ай бұрын
By what authority are they going to ban it???
@R.C.425
@R.C.425 Ай бұрын
Thank you
@juliebaker2221
@juliebaker2221 Ай бұрын
There are English Latin missals so you can pray along with the priest.
@JayHochstedt
@JayHochstedt Ай бұрын
The Dogmatic Constitution of the Church, Lumen Gentium, did redefine he Church, replacing the “est”, the one Church of Christ IS the Roman Catholic Church, to the Church of Christ “subsistit in” the Roman Catholic Church. That is a change in the nature of the Church, every bit as heretical as saying the Sonnis of like substance rather than the same substance. So it became a different Church & the pope affirming the dogmatic constitution became a heretic in authoritatively pronouncing it.
@msabrina3
@msabrina3 Ай бұрын
No TLM, break away could happen.
@1romancatholic
@1romancatholic Ай бұрын
Oh yeah, Our Lady of Mount Caramel, the ‘stick it to her Son, her Heavenly Father & her Spouse, the Holy Spirit & the Mother of the Church (& her dear sons) herself type of day.’ Right. 🙄 Guys, chained to the dust offerings of the world offerings, good luck with your tiny earthly plans. 🙄 I suggest you start ‘expanding your life vision’ to perhaps see the bigger picture of your life. When you sell out to satan/the world, the best you can obtain is hell. The best. Praying for these poor sons who have such low sights & plans during their short earthly gift of life, exchanging with excitement gold for dust.
@AsturGalicia
@AsturGalicia Ай бұрын
You are the one who is fully bound to Earth, and you don't know it, poor soul. Satan is clever.😢
@rtyria
@rtyria Ай бұрын
My diocese has a social media ban (ie: a Taylor Marshall ban, but they don't want to admit it) for seminarians, and I absolutely believe it came from the Vatican. I've seen several of our seminarians at the TLM, and on occasions Diocesan officials. If it weren't for the Vatican's hostility towards the TLM I honestly think they'd be fine with it. Our previous bishop treated it no differently than a Spanish or Polish Mass. So long as it produced good fruit he didn't care, and I suspect his successor would be the same way. This was the only parish that grew during the lockdowns, though we have shrunk significantly since the Mass ban rumors started flying. Already there are noticeable gaps in the pews.
@user-SgHDr217
@user-SgHDr217 Ай бұрын
Eeee! You DID just say, “…fingers crossed”. The Sign of the Cross, maybe…
@alswann2702
@alswann2702 Ай бұрын
I won't be guided.
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