Is There an Outside World?

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A discussion about the evidence of a separate, outside world.
Timestamps:
00:00 What is your experience in this world?
01:40 Do our senses give us evidence of an outside world?
04:00 The reason we all see the same
04:58 The experience of feeling and seeing
06:00 The conditioning of our experience
07:50 Awareness in not something and not nothing
10:04 Exploration of the relationship between something and nothing.
13:03 Why the teaching arises
14:51 The necessary stages of awareness
16:48 Consciousness and the true nature of experience
17:30 Is pure consciousness real?
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@theworldbridger506 3 жыл бұрын

Does anyone else gets a kind of vertigo when momentarily glimpsing truth? It’s like standing next to an abyss and yet its here and now.

@jennifermc3125 2 жыл бұрын

Yes. The second time I felt the vertigo, I laid down and let go of all resistance. As soon as I did, I became one with the abyss. It was more blissful than anything I've ever known. No drugs involved, either!

@shine360vr8 Жыл бұрын

I also have this , not quite vertigo but very similar

@rickkan4870 Жыл бұрын

@Arulchelvan1 Жыл бұрын

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@oliverlawer4694 5 ай бұрын

Yes. As the story goes, when the Buddha realised the truth, he reached down to touch the ground to steady himself.

@baptm727 4 жыл бұрын

“I have lived on the lip of insanity, wanting to know reasons, knocking on a door. It opens. I’ve been knocking from the inside.” - Rumi

@oscar3490 3 жыл бұрын

Rumi was incredible. I wonder how many people we have had on Earth like him since his time.

@baptm727 3 жыл бұрын

@@oscar3490 I believe way more than we can ever imagine.

@addahandle-k8d 3 жыл бұрын

This is great!

@ozgursenturk11-11 3 жыл бұрын

There is no door to knock! Because there is no inside or outside🤗🙏

@baptm727 3 жыл бұрын

@@ozgursenturk11-11 right

@gwenelbro3719 7 жыл бұрын

Your mind, if you have one, is not in your head. Your head is in your mind. Alan Watts.

@TimeTraveler2016 4 жыл бұрын

Both, your head & mind, are in the Pure Awareness that You Are

@Loveistheanswer248 3 жыл бұрын

'If you have one' 🤣🤣

@powerofone1645 3 жыл бұрын

.............Unless you're a politician then your head is up your ass. lol

@morpety 6 жыл бұрын

"If we did not conceptualize objects in the first place, we would not have to conceptualize awareness" Ground breaking statement!

@batfink274 Жыл бұрын

Good pick up

@erizz9906 Жыл бұрын

But we DO conceptualize them, so the Path is to work from here 🙏🏾🌎💯😎. One could easily say, “If I had no arms and legs, and were just one cosmic eyeball 👁️… it would all look, or appear much different 🤷🏾‍♂️.

@cacidoo Жыл бұрын

"As soon as you see something, you already start to intellectualize it. As soon as you intellectualize something, it is no longer what you saw.” - Shunryu Suzuki

@michalnovak3466 4 ай бұрын

It is downright stunning for me how Rupert Spira walks the razor sharp blade of words to express that which cannot be expressed. I feel as if he had disected my brain atom by atom and then put it back together like pieces of lego. “….a thought that has naturally come to its end” Wow, just wow ❤❤❤

@Stratton218 5 жыл бұрын

I know that relying upon substances for spiritual revelation is frowned upon, but I absolutely love listening to Rupert while stoned. My whole being is just like, "Yes, of course."

@phillip3548 6 жыл бұрын

There are no things, I.e objects, there is only the experience of things seeming to be objects within the field of awareness itself and since we are aware of this experience, we are awareness itself witnessing this unfolding.

@ferdinandocoluccelli9574 4 жыл бұрын

so clear, thank you Phillip :)

@stefanhjertquiststeffesone2000 3 жыл бұрын

I think and beleive it is like this: God (or the source of everything if you will) creates the sun when your apparent ”YOU” looks at the sun. The sun is just a reflection of your mind in exakt the moment the ”God” will show you the sun. When two apparent people is in exact the same place and looks at the sun... then this source (or God if you want) creates the sun for both to show the beauty. When then these people talks to each other about the beautiful sun... that discussion is also a reflection from this source. ”The source at the moment divided into two people talking”, but in the reality ALL is ONE and this ONE seems to be dualistic. Informed by the source, but just appeared as a false thing (the sun) in the separate mind!! What do you think? Or in other words: There is only ”a sun” when the source appear as ”a sun” to the apparent mind... but in reality there is no sun, just a thougt of a sun in a human mind, that takes that form from an energy and the energy is only the informativ tool from the source👍🙏! Namaste, and keep shining😃🕉

@peterscherba4138 3 жыл бұрын

@@stefanhjertquiststeffesone2000 So much for me to learn (comprehend). Here's one, I'm sitting at my computer not looking at The Milky Way. Is The M W there? Not for me (my perception) but IS it THERE? I say yes. Is it there when a million people look at it? Yes. So what is it when no one LOOKS at it?? An object? Suspended in space (universe). Olowly R does it belong to a collective consciousness THAT created it eons ago? Or at some point. By relative gods. Other words before this Universe existed IT was slowly (evolving) by minds previous to ours. In eternity it can be this way. And when we came onto earth and look UP we see what was created from SOURCE and is somehow suspended there. ?? for its illusion that lasts with change ETC?

@lindaj71 2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful. “Seeming”is tricky eh? Becuz of its vivid appearances? Thank you.

@lindaj71 2 жыл бұрын

@@stefanhjertquiststeffesone2000: The sun warms us and makes things grow. It’s reality may be different than the way we understand it but…it’s mind-blowing really. I would never call the sun “a false thing.”

@johnnywlittle 7 жыл бұрын

Best part was the beginning where he's basically saying,..."where's the dividing line between here and there?"...

@themassagemasters 5 жыл бұрын

Johnny Little the distance between here and there is the letter T

@JorgeRodriguez-nx5eq 4 жыл бұрын

I struggled for many years trying to understand this fundamental concept of non duality until I heard a video of Rupert saying that this world is a dream In God’s mind. As long we considere that we are a separate self The world will seem to be real. No logical explanation You will not realize you were dreaming until you awake.

@pedrogonzales9202 3 жыл бұрын

So many concepts we wrestle with. What helped me is getting past the ideas that consciousness is something “I” possess. Well, I say getting past is but that’s not really true. The sense of the separate self is still very strong. Great comment!

@sajdinkhan9049 9 ай бұрын

God's consciousness is such a creative imagination that it becomes so called the physical reality in our terms.

@morpety 6 жыл бұрын

"Reality cannot be conceptualized. This is the ending of thought."

@moonglow6639 3 жыл бұрын

Rupert Spira can do it though. Can he really ? Or is he imagining it ? I'm not sure. ^^

@paarkour83 3 жыл бұрын

@@moonglow6639 he doesn’t conceptuliaze reality, he experience reality and then shares his experience with us

@Justadisciple502 3 жыл бұрын

Are we all living in mass delusion, if reality for everyone the same? If I see the ocean, and the others who are looking the the same ocean seeing the same, is it means that our conception of reality the same and I mean humans only?

@venusleoz826 2 жыл бұрын

The object world seems real when you leave your house and are challenged by the objects, often in form of difficult people.

@0mrlolman0 7 жыл бұрын

"Nothing is form, and form is nothingness." This reminds me of an old zen koan. I am sure many of you have heard it. "Two hands clap and there is a sound. What is the sound of one hand?" Victor Hori offered this insight: "in the beginning a monk first thinks a kōan is an inert object upon which to focus attention; after a long period of consecutive repetition, one realizes that the kōan is also a dynamic activity, the very activity of seeking an answer to the kōan. The kōan is both the object being sought and the relentless seeking itself. In a kōan, the self sees the self not directly but under the guise of the kōan ... When one realizes ("makes real") this identity, then two hands have become one. The practitioner becomes the kōan that he or she is trying to understand. That is the sound of one hand." Apply this to the notion of consciousness. Understand that we are all a beautiful paradox. Everything is awareness.

@HABERASAFI 4 жыл бұрын

Dear Rupert, I share completely your appreciation of western culture, something is so wrong with it and this is alone proof for what you teach us. Thank you so much for your videos.

@JonasAnandaKristiansson 3 жыл бұрын

Absolute legend. The Truth of our true essence is spoken here. Thank you for ripping apart the ego delusions for us all.

@karnigbeylikjian9837 10 ай бұрын

How could you not love Rupert!❤️. His lucidity is wonderful!👍.

@robynclements4242 6 ай бұрын

‘Reality is neither something nor nothing. Our finite mind can only think within opposites.’ 🙏

@pbeapbea5206 Жыл бұрын

Also, when the questioner says, "My mind," (over and over), that is also a problem. The mind is NOT personal. It is NOT "MY." The mind is impersonal. When we make our mind personal, we throw a huge monkey wrench into everything. I am NOT my mind. I am NOT my body. I am only "I." The mind is just a tool so that we don't crash and burn in a linear circumstance. When we identify with our mind (make it a "Me") then we become attached to it and cannot go beyond it, to where the understanding that we are seeking, IS.

@helmerkappert5152 Жыл бұрын

His examples are brilliant! Thank you!

@mohdshahnawaz3864 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely loved this video. Thank you so much for this valuable information. Lots of love from an Australian 🇦🇺❤

@garydeluca1475 Жыл бұрын

It's nice to see this man has so much patience and is able to work with so many different minds these are the pointing out instructions to awaken to reality

@manofpeace927 4 жыл бұрын

Rupert spira is one of the best teacher

@morpety 6 жыл бұрын

Profound explanation of conceptual thought in the domain of awareness.

@josevalverde2263 Жыл бұрын

Rupert,thank you a million times.

@ferdinandocoluccelli9574 4 жыл бұрын

oh my! 15:26 "the ego is a natural stage that we pass through" !! such a light view of the egoic status: we don't have to destroy it, only leave it behind...

@peterscherba4138 3 жыл бұрын

Yes Retire it.

@ferdinandocoluccelli9574 3 жыл бұрын

@@peterscherba4138 exact! :)

@kristianmalinovic50 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, this is a crucial piece of the puzzle for me.

@user-ck6ly4st3v 14 сағат бұрын

Thank you, Rupert. ❤❤

@drpadmanabhan3148 4 жыл бұрын

Simple words revealing deep truth

@louismiltenburg5111 7 жыл бұрын

Deze is wel heel erg goed !

@Workdove 5 жыл бұрын

Wow this one really helped my understanding

@ozgursenturk11-11 3 жыл бұрын

If you say it's "your" understanding then you need more help🤗🙏

@johnburman966 4 жыл бұрын

I love where you take me Rupert.

@rama4913 4 жыл бұрын

Of course there is an outside world. We might not experience it in the same way but it's still there. We are in it, part of it. Nothing does not exist. All is connected. Everything matters. You matter. Never forget that. Nobody knows all. Don't put people on a pedestal. Don't detach too much. Next thing you know you'll become this person who acts like he's detached from all having left family and friends to persue his absolute and selfish detachment. Balance is important. We all need to be loved and touched. If not, big problems will occur. Don't make things more complex but instead make them clearer.

@peterscherba4138 3 жыл бұрын

Good point! Good advice! Good is Balance and balance is good. Unless you're writing a book about going deeper down a rabbit hole...

@randybackgammon890 3 жыл бұрын

Sound!

@mementomori5374 3 жыл бұрын

Nothing matters and everything matters

@randybackgammon890 2 жыл бұрын

I like having family and friends but I also like being alone sometime.Probably wouldn't like either ALL the time einds

@terefefeyssa877 2 жыл бұрын

Ra Ma: You missed the major part of the teaching and you put again the teaching into duality as if There is conflict between world and awareness World and awareness are the same. You have to go outwards again.

@AxelKratel Жыл бұрын

The debate between the notion of an outside objective world or a world inside your awareness has been the subject of debate in Zen monasteries for centuries, It is not "Western versus non-dual". Long time ago this discussion became the subject of a deep and profound Zen koan which leads the seeker to the realization that neither interpretation is correct. The answer is not knowable, in fact no one knows if we're not in fact all just plugged into a simulation. The good news is that true freedom is found in being at peace with not knowing. It seems that the non-dual path in Zen is slightly different than what Rupert teaches. It's about taking up residence in that place of not knowing and not needing to know. Suzuki Roshi once responded to a question about consciousness in this way: "I don't know anything about consciousness, I just try to teach my students how to hear the birds sing." The universe is a place of grand mystery, it's not necessary to have it all figured out to find peace.

@AuthenticSelfGrowth 3 жыл бұрын

Spoiler alert - No there isn't an outside world. It feels like there is due to the human sense of seperation. In actuality you are everything you experience. The inner and outer are one indivisible whole 🤯🙏🏽

@dream2space234 3 жыл бұрын

The outer is a reflection of the inner. Mirror.

@teddybear9029 3 жыл бұрын

These modern day terms such as downloading and virtual reality always seem to be a metaphor for consciousness and awareness, I would be interested how somebody like Rupert would be able to describe before we had this computer age we now live in.

@priitoinas73 3 жыл бұрын

Your mind is in every cell of your body. Your mind is a conditioning of what you have been taught. The mind become a conditioning of beliefs and the beliefs are NOT who you are!!

@helenaresnik282 11 ай бұрын

Thank you💛🙏

@GratefulZen 2 жыл бұрын

Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile.

@robbiespence6504 4 жыл бұрын

4:58 RS says show us the evidence. Reminds me of the story about Dr Samuel Johnson kicking the stone and saying I refute it thus. In other words, try putting your hand in the fire or try to walk through a wall... That demonstrates that there is reality as well as consciousness.

@simonaschmidt 3 жыл бұрын

This is a good one. :)

@matthewking7874 5 жыл бұрын

great teachings messages

@lawreence-5234 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you... ❤️🙏❤️

@sublita 6 жыл бұрын

It's simpler to say that our life is just a dream, it's easier to understand the truth he is talking about when you know this. Don't let you be deceived from the extreme coherence, lenght and realistic quality of this dream but observe the synchronicity, the law of attraction, the deja-vu and the paranormal phenomena: they can all be explained if we admit it's just our shared dream. And when we fall asleep, we have dreams inside this longer dream. Who is the dreamer? Pure awareness...the void, there is NOTHING when the dream is over, just your/our awareness in peace and presence

@lifetoward 6 жыл бұрын

"Just a dream": Such a demotion of being alive seems designed to satisfy some sort of dissatisfaction with being finite, ie. smacks of ego. Reality has meaning. Life is real. Life has meaning. Life can't be life without being finite. Thus the satisfaction of the one great desire to be is to be finite, for only then can meaning be manifest. There seems to be no universal dreamer, but we many selves do dream. But that our lives may be full of meaning, let us dream in a way consistent with the nature of what we are at every level of being which we can extend our awareness to. That is the discipline toward happiness, toward life as real and undemoted.

@osvaldovaldes10009 5 жыл бұрын

“It is the mind that dreams”

@edzardpiltz6348 5 жыл бұрын

@@osvaldovaldes10009 , no, it is awareness imaging of being a separate self that is asleep and having a dream. What we call the mind, is just a collection of thoughts that are happening right now. 😘

@smilelikeUmeanit90 4 жыл бұрын

good one :) thanks

@carolem8 7 жыл бұрын

I struggle as this woman does. If all experience is already in "one" awareness, how is it that ideas discussed are new to my experience? Why aren't they already known to me, already familiar to me? That is what makes me have the perception of a new object that is outside of my awareness.

@maciej.ratajczak Жыл бұрын

Well, they are familiar to the undivided You (aka Infinite Consciousness), but once the undivided You divides Itself into separate selves (like you and me here behind these computer screens), It ceases to possess Its Infinite Omniscience.

@johnnywlittle Жыл бұрын

6yrs now and still see it as a bad sales job, at least in the first have. You can’t force it or argue like a litigator to have someone ‘see’. All you get is acquiescence of the will. I mostly enjoy Rupert as he does fulfill a certain part of spirituality that no one else can do, this one just isn’t his best.

@WoolandFlax Жыл бұрын

Appreciate this

@matmolin Жыл бұрын

Here is my thing. All brains are actually antennas to perceive the what we call "Reality". Every brain has this capability. Even from animals. But what we receive as antennas? We receive consciousness. :) therefore we all come from this universal consciousness and what we call I is actually just this "downloaded Consciousness" going through the filters of our brain cells and interpreted by it, adding all flavours of experiences and social constructed ideas we have throughout our life. :)

@maciej.ratajczak Жыл бұрын

Fair enough, that works on a secondary level. (But on a primary level it doesn't, because primarily nothing actually exists; all of material existence is Infinite Consciousness's hallucination/dream/thought form. 'Our' belief that 'it' exists is just an interpretation.)

@claudelebel49 10 ай бұрын

Since everything appears in and td me, I-aeareness, I and the so-called world are One. No world separate from me. I-awareness comes first. Without Me there is no word.

@Sowingthewinds 8 жыл бұрын

Divine Being Blessings

@malabuha 5 жыл бұрын

If our perception of the physical reality is mental why cant we change it? Like you would just imagine a different face and you'd see it then. But no matter how much you try to reinvent it mentally it just stays the same. Perception does occur in mind but the way structures are being percieved remain inert, repetitive and predictable. Why is that?

@kennahowe7582 5 жыл бұрын

Ohhhh.. This guy is good!!!

@nintendy 7 жыл бұрын

This guy’s making it up as he goes along! LOL He starts out with the question ‘what is your experience’, and goes on to ask does she experience anything of the outside world (basically to support or prove that it’s really there) then he says: than seeing? He then pauses - like he’s almost forgotten to add; touching? (then another pause, lest he forgets totally about ‘hearing’!) So his arguments, beliefs whatever for me, are simply unfolding whilst he talks and thinks of them, which gives no substance or fact to what he is actually saying for anything he puts forward - let alone evidence of it... There’s nothing wrong with that, but when he puts HIS questions to others, he’s asking/saying, other than what they are explaining, do they have any real evidence - well, no more perhaps than he himself does!

@giogarcia4002 3 жыл бұрын

Brilliant

@jamesthomas1244 7 жыл бұрын

It seems that the lady has not yet experienced the subtle sense of "being aware of being aware". Not yet realizing "awareness" presents itself as an intimate all-embracing presence and aliveness that can not be conceptualized. It's as if she is trying to fit conscious-awareness into an idea, or into an object. Immediately once the space of awareness is seen it's obvious it is beyond the minds comprehension. It's too present; too alive; too silent; too close; too non-objective; too open; too wondrous.... I have noticed with friends that when the question "are you aware of being aware?" is mentioned they instantly answer yes; but in any further discussion always seem to focus only on what they are aware of, and can not sense the awareness itself. It's like an alien concept. I'm not trying to preach here. just clarifying things for myself. :-)

@michaelpham4238 5 жыл бұрын

This is it.

@Mevlinous 3 жыл бұрын

I think knowledge of one’s awareness is a different thing to being aware of awareness.

@peterscherba4138 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, and in meditation practice being aware of just being aware (Pure awareness) is ideal... and then thoughts, moods, stressful ones, etc come and go. This is when we go back to a SILENCE of just being aware, of being aware, and simply KNOWING this AS my true essence (I AM).

@oscar3490 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent.

@radicalhonesty3628 2 жыл бұрын

how did I create this? and why? falling for a man: obsessed with health and fitness. and me? diabetic. fat. overweight: my whole life. he's vegan. I love meat. he's a fitness trainer. leisure walks are the only exercise I get. I have a bad back, I can't do much. fitness is far from my thing. why would I do this to myself? fall for a man that would/could never fall for me back?

@ezioberolo2936 4 жыл бұрын

Remind me to be careful when I step into traffic...

@pedrogonzales9202 6 жыл бұрын

I love all of Rupert Spira’s videos, yet often struggle with the volume. So many are difficult to hear. My numerical volumes on all devices are always at maximum. Is it actually part of the teaching that it be difficult to hear?

@mrvivek815 5 жыл бұрын

😂

@heikeahlbory1738 4 жыл бұрын

🤣

@ozgursenturk11-11 3 жыл бұрын

The truth can be heard is not the eternal truth🤗🙏

@pedrogonzales9202 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Pedro, maybe it's time to get better earbuds....what do you say? Pedro: I did get better earbuds!... Okay... and how is the sound now? Uhh,, much better, I can hear him now!

@williamcallahan5218 4 жыл бұрын

anyone know what breed Ruperts dog is?

@shanindtheeed 2 жыл бұрын

interesting.. yet again

@pbeapbea5206 Жыл бұрын

Also, "I am confused," is NOT a good place to be in when we are trying to understand something. Letting Go of every form of negativity and resistance is the ONLY way to understand anything. Confusion is resistance. Let It Go.

@johnwat7825 Жыл бұрын

I know the outside world is there because it reciprocates seamlessly and appropriately, my actions upon it. For example my mother fed my hunger, even when I could not communicate it. Compare this with no evidence that the outside world is not there.

@tommmymason9744 6 жыл бұрын

i Sensuality Sublimely and/or Crudely exigency to the exclusion of all else want, shapes patterns and forms, scaled measured and labeled experience. I feel the fearful-pain of wanting painless pleasure experience.

@slowseeker3674 6 жыл бұрын

Fact : we only know the world through perception. so that leaves 2 possibilities. 1. The world does not exist (only the perception of it). 2. The world does exist but we can only experience it through sense perceptions. Because we only know the world via perception means it’s valid either way, but it does not prove anything. How do you know it? He says it’s conditioning vs experience. But the experience does not make it so, it just allows the possibility of it. Can you reach a place in experience that proves or strongly hints the truth? If so how? Will self enquiry bring you to that place? Can anyone help answer this?

@DrSimonLevy 5 жыл бұрын

Slow Seeker You can never be sure but lets say option 2 is right. There actually exists an outside world and all of the world beings perceive this world through our perception - then the fact that the "observer" in all of these people, the "I" is exactly the same - should give you pause and should let you consider very strongly the first option

@jeffrourke2322 5 жыл бұрын

Simon Levy I disagree. The repeatable experience of the same physical world (geography) through seven billion finite minds confirm the existence of the material world in a very real sense in a way that the subjective dream world never can. To equate the two is disingenuous at best. No one has perceived the dream world which my subconscious creates (towards ends that strongly correlate with experiences in my waking state). Yet, many people have experienced driving on the same road in the same direction to get to the same supermarket. You cannot brush this under the rug. When one chalks up existence to subjective experience, they must embrace the baggage that follows. The universe is underpinned by objectivity at the most fundamental *metaphysical* level. The only subjective experience is that of the objective world.

@noellesavidou1688 4 жыл бұрын

Well said, Slow Seeker , I'm with you.....either possibility could be true and to blame conditioning is just too simplistic to my way of thinking.

@Kounteron 3 жыл бұрын

@@jeffrourke2322 yet in the dream world, the dream characters have all experienced the same dream world analogous to the real characters all experiencing the same real world

@jessegandy4510 6 жыл бұрын

I'll admit; I don't know matter outside of my perception of matter through my senses. I can't possible argue with that. But what if both things are going on? My awareness only perceives matter AND that matter objectively exists? Why can't it be both?

@osvaldovaldes10009 5 жыл бұрын

in other words: 1) it’s all in you head, there is no world out there, 2) there IS a world out there but we can never know it, only our perceptions. Is that it? You really are saying #2....no?

@DLBurggraf 8 жыл бұрын

Is there an outside world in a dream ? Each thought is a trance...a spell...brought upon Awareness.

@neguinhodavs 8 жыл бұрын

awareness is a brain muscle.

@LelandJohnston 7 жыл бұрын

D Graf

@DLBurggraf 7 жыл бұрын

Dreams appear real when you are in them...so it is with this world !

@Sh1tP0stM4nia 6 жыл бұрын

Watts paraphrase: That’s why when you form words it’s called “spelling”. Love watchin KZfaq videos of people talkin about what can’t really be talked about

@sorenkierkegaard4598 5 жыл бұрын

yeah,when you wake up

@peterscherba4138 5 жыл бұрын

Oh, sure on some quantum level a chair isn't shaped AS a physical chair but we are in this POV...

@thedarkmoonman 8 жыл бұрын

amazing ..

@leelanjoy 6 жыл бұрын

W O W !

@cl9826 Жыл бұрын

"the program is downloaded from the sane source" mandela effect, shows that, the world is not concrete and actually changes "retroactivey" because is just a "program".

@DietrichLasa 8 жыл бұрын

'Nothing is form, and form is nothingness' is a concession to the belief that there are things (9:00-10:00). Then, there is the realisation that this belief, produced by consciousness, can be replaced by the realisation that colours, sounds etc are appearing out of consciousness. Consciousness would not be be able to come up with colours, sounds, etc without employing thoughts, necessary to design the mechanics of perceiving colours, sounds etc. Driving a car is most enjoyable without identifying with it or believing in it as a separate entity. However, the designers of the car had to invest a lot of thinking into the functioning of that car. Realising the formless does not invalidate thinking as a tool to maintain the mechanics (vibrations) of perceiving colours and sounds for the sake of entertaining consciousness. Luckily, there is no need for consciousness to forget itself to perceive colours and sounds, but it has to forget itself as soon as it assumes beliefs in separation.

@raulmexb 8 жыл бұрын

+Dietrich Lasa Wow! that's deep very insightful!

@angelapeterson6355 7 жыл бұрын

Dietrich Lasa lmm

@jeffrourke2322 5 жыл бұрын

I wish Rupert would elaborate on this concept more rigorously. The Titanic is at the bottom of the ocean whether or not anyone experiences it. How do we know this? Through geographical coordinates. It’s existence in a particular location has been confirmed empirically by individualized finite minds over and over again. If there is no one to experience the ship, am I to believe that it’s existence in that location is manifested through the observance of infinite consciousness? Of course not, for the emergent material world can only be observed through the finite mind; Rupert’s words, not mine. Therefore, there must be a reconciliation between the reality (in a literal definition of the word) of the material world and the existence of an infinite consciousness. It isn’t enough to say that the world does not exist but through the experience of said world. This would be to say that infinite consciousness has no awareness whatsoever of the vast majority of the physical universe, for 99.99% of it is unobserved. How does one account for this enigma? If a world is only manifest through a finite mind, than the entirety of the cosmos is completely superfluous. I find that too hard a pill to swallow. Either infinite consciousness has an agency that Rupert does not concede (yet must because finite minds exist: who purposed their existence?), or the relationship between consciousness and the material world is as of yet not understood properly. I’m on board with awareness as a fundamental underpinning of the material body, and the material world. But the existence of the world is not properly explained through these same means.

@tabacodepipa7344 3 жыл бұрын

So, if the whole human kind disappears now ( with our feelings, perception and awareness) then, will the universe stop existing at the same time? I am just asking, cause this is hard to understand for me

@dorarebelo673 4 жыл бұрын

The Best Tina Turner I call you when I need you, my heart's on fire You come to me, come to me wild and wired Oh, you come to me, give me everything I need Give me a life time of promises and a world of dreams Speak the language of love like you know what it means Mm, and it can't be wrong, take my heart and make it strong, babe You're simply the best, better than all the rest Better than anyone, anyone I ever met I'm stuck on your heart, I hang on every word you say Tear us apart, baby, I would rather be dead In your heart I see the start of every night and every day In your eyes I get lost, I get washed away Just as long here in your arms I could be in no better place You're simply the best, better than all the rest Better than anyone, anyone I ever met I'm stuck on your heart, I hang on every word you say Tear us apart, baby, I would rather be dead Each time you leave me I start losing control You're walking away with my heart and my soul I can feel you even when I'm alone Oh, baby, don't let go You're the best, better than all the rest Better than anyone, anyone I ever met I'm stuck on your heart I hang on every word you say Tear us apart Baby I would rather be dead Oh you're the best

@seththebardgoatsghost8781 7 жыл бұрын

will someone please ask if Paul McCartney is faul mccarntney?

@jaanuskiipli4647 5 жыл бұрын

How do you know what's a dog's experience is like?

@NickRyanBayon 4 жыл бұрын

It is not something or nothing just pure being. Just is.

@VibhutiGaneshG 6 жыл бұрын

Please edit the Transcript at 13:58 - Kindly clarify what is "shanku quoted the shank area saying real..." etc. I am afraid it is the name of the great seer

@abiral_neupane4045 5 жыл бұрын

shankracharya

@coumars 5 жыл бұрын

So who is the speaker here and listener (me) are they both same, if consciousness is one listener becomes speaker ?

@iLLLiaD 3 жыл бұрын

Blow it all up

@Ponk_80 5 жыл бұрын

So if the world doesn’t exist, how come we then can influence what happens in it, after we touched something and then let go of it, like throwing a ball and hitting a target, that then gives off sound, that we receive afterwards, without us actually touching it, how come the Ball doesn’t just disappear as soon as we let go of it?

@gireeshneroth7127 25 күн бұрын

Living a mind wake consciousness worldbeing itself.

@sparkely1122 11 ай бұрын

Ugh 😑 I feel like I’m hallucinating lol what a trip!!!

@johnatkinson4287 8 жыл бұрын

Is our awareness like downloading the internet? awareness is like the empty space that we download from...and our bodies are like the computer?

@melanieturnbell6747 3 жыл бұрын

We live in the brain of Mary, and that's also how savonts are explained , they have access to Mary's knowledge talents and abilities ,

@kaoticmind09 10 ай бұрын

If three are other entities and not just simulations .... there is a definitely an outside world otherwise these individuals wouldn't be having the same world. It's all happening through our perceptions sure but there's a constant of all of us seeing the same thing... Something is grounding us and that's the outside world and our limited perception of it.

@aaliareal Жыл бұрын

Dear Rupert, A Course in Miracles says that God did not create the world. So how is it possible that being in the midst of nature makes it easier for us to feel God?

@arturzathas499 Жыл бұрын

if awareness is all that is then where from does this conditioning that is apparently "a problem" come from?

@pam3906 Жыл бұрын

Yes I get dizzy a little

@pbeapbea5206 Жыл бұрын

If this questioner would just LET GO of Wanting to Understand these things, the understanding would just flood in. When we think, "I want to understand," it's a condition of "wanting," or scarcity, of the understanding. Just say, 'I Let Go of wanting to understand xyz. I allow the understanding to come to me." This really really works. We can't understand this concept with the logical mind. We must stop trying to do it. Because, like Rupert says, this subject is beyond the mind. We have to Let Go of the mind to understand this. "I have no access to ..." We are all omniscient beings, capable of accessing every form of knowledge and understanding. We must stop denying it. Just accept this about ourselves, and the understanding of this subject will automatically come to us. When we are resisting the very thing we say we want to have, we are resisting the understanding. If we would STOP wanting to understand things, the understanding will automatically come because we have removed the resistance to it. We must stop trying to create an argument. That we consider understanding something is just so important... Understanding itself is NOT important. When we stop thinking that it IS important, the understanding will just come. Understanding will NOT come to the place where it's resisted. There are NO dilemmas, except the ones we create. Sit quietly on the couch and stay there until we can Let Go of all our dilemmas and mis-understandings. Just let go of all the resistance. All of the argumentitiveness. Then the understanding will come. Also, Let Go of everything that we believe. Then understanding will come automatically. Truth comes where it is NOT resisted. It really is so fun to let go of our reasoning mind for awhile to allow spiritual understanding to come. But, we humans, must always have a bone to pick :)))) Unless we don't (as Neale Donald Walsch would say). We are all on the same journey together. Thank you, questioner and Rupert, for all of this amazing conversation!

@ARTthebox 8 жыл бұрын

Rupert. Don't Break the game ! :)

@krystianluniewicz3881 7 жыл бұрын

hahah

@ozgursenturk11-11 3 жыл бұрын

It's not a game because game implies rules, so it's just a play🤗🙏

@of8ightandse7en16 2 жыл бұрын

Anyone had apeirophobia. all the talks about eternal bliss/Self is scary, something which never ends and just exist there forever and ever ? I'm so fearful to be forced to exist in this world with its suffering for endless rebirth and just to enlightened and live forever and ever ?

@actoranandcr 3 жыл бұрын

I agree that we are aware of the world only through our experiences of senses and not in reality. But then how do you conclude that world and things do not exist in reality, based on what experience??? at best we can only say I dont know if the world exists or not since I can only see through my experiences, we cant conclude. I am not getting this point, can someone clarify???

@randybackgammon890 2 жыл бұрын

Sound logic I must say.I have no concrete answer.Perhaps ' I expierence therefore I am' But then what happens to me during deep sleep? Maybe as humans we can't know and just have to function in the shadow....maybe? maybe not🧐

@garywright8137 2 жыл бұрын

Finn the dog knows a lot more than you realise :)

@apsau153 3 жыл бұрын

Rupert has great insights and is very eloquent, and he's helped me to better understand our experience and consciousness as human beings. However, I find that dismissing the notion of a materialistic framework that defines our common world is somewhat misguided.

@maciej.ratajczak Жыл бұрын

Interesting thought. Do go on. Why do you think it's misguided?

@JanVerhoeven-uit-gilze 3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate the talks of Rupert Spira. Sadly he makes the same mistake as many before him have by trying to hard to derive everything from awareness. When I am thirsty I prefer my real glass of water above Ruperts illusion of it. The water may be different from how I see it but the life saving effect it has on me is very real. Just one of the many examples I can give.

@terefefeyssa877 2 жыл бұрын

Jan Verhoeven: I did not understand what mistake you are talking about. Water is a life saving source. I do not see any contradiction what Rupert is saying. You can drink Your water. Water is a given name

@JanVerhoeven-uit-gilze Жыл бұрын

@@terefefeyssa877 May be you can follow the advice that Rupert is given in most of his talks: look at your own experience. But really look without being influenced by what he or anyone else is saying. You will find you as a feeling, thinking and acting subject and also you will find the outside world of objects, plants, animals and fellow human beings. Ignoring any part of it is, is my humble understanding, a false simplification that does not solve any real life problems.

@terefefeyssa877 Жыл бұрын

@@JanVerhoeven-uit-gilze: You better step back and look carefully before You impose Your own belief. The direct path different form what you know so far. Just explore it with out unnecessary interpretation. Do you understand what "direct" means in this teaching?

@johnnywlittle 7 жыл бұрын

Rupert, you can't tell people to choose when their experience tells them otherwise. You have to "show" then. It's not a game of logic or convincing....and you of course know better

@deanmccrorie3461 3 жыл бұрын

So his mind is at Rupert’s mercy? The man does not posses free will?

@johnnywlittle Жыл бұрын

@@deanmccrorie3461 he really doesn’t. He’s just bad at selling the idea. My take is you can’t argue it like a litigator and get someone to shift their perspective.

@osvaldovaldes10009 6 жыл бұрын

*4:25** why don't we see the same night time dream?*

@anllpp 8 жыл бұрын

And we are a manifestation of it. It and not it

@neguinhodavs 8 жыл бұрын

true

@jongibirdi1394 4 жыл бұрын

I get this and often feel it..but when the bank asks me for money or i get punched in the face it sure feels real

@cat_lover007 3 жыл бұрын

😆

@jeanetteb2347 3 жыл бұрын

Are you taking the opposite direction from Descartes?

@durable1988 7 жыл бұрын

"Why do you believe what Western culture tells you to believe about your experience?" -Rupert says through a microphone based entirely on a western culture's experience that relies on things to exist outside of our perception

@johnbennett7554 7 жыл бұрын

Because it was a cheeky bit of pure ideology

@Sinekyre14 7 жыл бұрын

*It's so unfair to say "western culture" is the blame for materialism and poor treatement of animals.* Arabic countries still have huge slave trades. Africa is a living nightmare and all attempts to lift it up have failed. Asian countries treat humans like animals, and China executes hundreds of thousands of people every year. This whol schtick about the west being so evil is wrong. Materialism is evil. This fantasy about india being this spiritual heaven is also wrong, much of it is very superficial. I wish people like this would aknowledge all the good they've received from being born in the west.

@ferdinandocoluccelli9574 4 жыл бұрын

western people seems to be very touchy ;) (I'm italian ...)

@swetabhushan798 4 жыл бұрын

@@ferdinandocoluccelli9574 and I am Indian yet I agree with his/her comment 😅 it's all about being fair and seeing things in a fair way I suppose...for we all are no different from one another. Our skin/hair colours, cultures, languages, etc. might be different but in actuality we all are human being residing on Earth which is supposed to be round/spherical. Then where is this so-called East/West we talk about. Moreover in duality, everything has its good as well as bad. None is perfect in its entirety. Oftentimes many places are projected in a certain way which may not, rather ARE NOT the truth completely....as he/she rightly points about the so-called western culture and also about India. I can confirm that because I stay here. Have been born and brought up here. I too did not agree with Rupert what he said about the projected image of the western world. Sometimes I wonder how can these so-called awakened beings talk in this manner when they know it all ? 🤔

@ferdinandocoluccelli9574 4 жыл бұрын

@@swetabhushan798 because they see better than you and me. what really happen from a non-dual viewpoint is a bunch of vibrations of the primordial energy: no judgement is applicable to it, so this conversation is totally inconsistent. From the point of view of our human experience, it seems that words and ideas are relevant; in this perspective a thing is viewed as good or bad, and in this perspective I agree with Rupert in judging the western culture as an obstacle for people searching for truth, imho this is undeniable.