There is No Choice in Eternity

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It is seen in this conversation that causality, choice and time are the finite mind trying to make sense of eternity.
From the seven day retreat at Mercy Center, October 2016. For access to the full recording see link: non-duality.rupertspira.com/wa...
Timestamps:
00:00 What happens with awareness when we make a choice?
00:48 No separate chooser between thoughts
02:54 Does awareness make our choices?
03:43 There is no choice
04:30 How we make choices?
05:28 What links our thoughts together?
06:00 Can thoughts know awareness?
08:35 The finite mind and its connection to time
10:47 How the mind knows and perceives
12:05 Understanding limitations of the mind
16:00 Everything is perceived through the filter of the mind
16:55 Cleansing the mind from its limitations
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@simka321 7 ай бұрын

6:55: "The whole idea of time causality choice is the minds childish way of trying to make sense of something that it cannot know about. There's no choice or cause in eternity." - Mindblown!

@freyaforestmusic Жыл бұрын

i actually LOVE the way he looks when he is listening. You can just tell he is really paying attention. That is so rare to see these days!

@84sahi Жыл бұрын

That is because he is in his awareness stage - it listens - mind talks

@claudelebel49 11 ай бұрын

Comes the question ""he is choosing to listen? If there is no "I" doing the choosing, how could there be a he? -Listening is happening -Noticing is happening -responding is happening -Feeling guilty is happening

@ganazby 5 жыл бұрын

Rupert has superb taste in shirts, which alone should be reason enough to ardently seek self-realisation. Wonderful teacher, btw.

@TheJooberjones 4 жыл бұрын

Philip Bellew agreed, the non dual james bond

@AdrianMark 4 жыл бұрын

But if he has no choice in the preference of his shirts, does he really have superb taste? Can the self ever be realised, ardently?

@TheJooberjones 4 жыл бұрын

Adrian Mark well played sir

@macarius8802 4 жыл бұрын

@@AdrianMark Love it!

@anthonyscozzafava2175 4 жыл бұрын

Hahahaa great comment

@RogerDrayton 6 жыл бұрын

WoW...Awesome, awesome, awesome...Another expression is..The 'I" that is me you cannot see, you only see the form you think is me; the form you see will not always be, but the "I" that is me lives eternally !!!

@TheBeardedSandman 2 жыл бұрын

YES!

@TheBeardedSandman 2 жыл бұрын

@@Nothingbuttruth0 Do you seriously not have more than, "So what?" to contribute to the conversation? If you're going to disagree with Roger, then at least form a coherent thought behind why you disagree, but to hide behind "So what?" is just arrogant and rude.

@JonnyChaos 4 жыл бұрын

I worked this out way before I got into spirituality. I used to say, f you just took the concept 'time' away, then infinity is normal and easy to accept. It's simple in my head but try to explain it to people and they can't get what I mean.

@moirab1000 Жыл бұрын

Glad you got it early. Harder when one has spent years in science and technology……. Still trying to “really” get it.

@JorgeRodriguez-nx5eq 4 жыл бұрын

If I understand the message of Rupert , Time Space Cause and Effect are all an illusion of the separate self, Awareness is timeless dimensionless and free from cause and effect That is why Krishnamurty always said that freedom is found in Choiceless awareness

@luisavila4704 Жыл бұрын

Hello Rupert! your knowledge of the essence of life has changed my life! I just want to say hello to the beautiful soul that you are cheers ❤ I hope some day I can be an channel of my source here on earth too. Right now I’m just cultivating my garden❤

@youarewhatyourelookingfor4496 Жыл бұрын

In what way? How’s your life changed?

@MrStpendouslvforjo Жыл бұрын

What an incredible subject and what an incredible SPEAKER!

@gireeshneroth7127 2 жыл бұрын

Choice or no choice, awareness is all that there is. It is awareness vs awareness as the chooser, choice and the chosen and nothing else. Happening within itself.

@honestyfenix530 6 жыл бұрын

People, to be a runner, a writer, a comedian, a policeman or a nurse IS NOT FOR EVERYONE. To get into Rupert's explanations IS NOT FOR EVERYONE. That simple. And it's not about being a genious, it's about BEING INTERESTED IN and wishing with all your Being, to understand this kind of matter.

@malabuha 5 жыл бұрын

Hey there:) exactly. I sometimes get surprised as well how much people struggle to see some simple obvious things. See, noone believed when i was a teenager that i would ever make a good waitress. My hands were shaking, i had no self asteem at all. Zero. But, who would tell, against all odds i went abroad and made an excellent waitress. Even that when i returned home i was kind of famous for having a great skill (i live in a very small community). I was no waitress material, but it turned out i made an excellent one. Could it be that the reason i made such obvious transformation and achievment stemmed precisely out of pure incompetence? Could it be that it's the misperception and misunderstanding, a complete incompetence in the field of advaita that fuels your journey into sheding light on reality? I mean, dont get me wrong, your comment is as good as mine, to be honest. I first out of all get preplexed of how much people complicate easy simple things, so i thought, hey, i agree but there's a but to our viewpoint. It's a lengthy one, and i went on talking about simplicities haha

@kennethart4529 5 жыл бұрын

Honestly bullshit

@rosisunny9302 3 жыл бұрын

Honesty Fenix 🙏💜🙏 I think Mind does not help but open Hearth and feelings and Thanfulkness will do??

@honestyfenix530 3 жыл бұрын

@@rosisunny9302 In my experience you need every part of you (I can only talk from my own experience) plus what you say, plus maybe other participations beyond us? Grace? Some aspects of this are beyond me. And also to have The Need! Thank you for your useful comment. Regards.

@peter.cerrato 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Honesty the Fenix, the "I" that wishes "to understand this kind of matter" is the finite mind! It will only be able to get to the border of itself, but will never be able to "cross over" and "become" AWARENESS!!! You could compare it with the user (Spirit) that plays a game on a computer and the character (body/mind) he plays in that game. They can never really meet! They represent a different order of reality.!!! But if the wish is strong enough to push you forward in understanding, it means that you are being called to return HOME! And hopefully you will make the jump (mind => AWARENESS) in the end!!! Namaste

@spcsh1936 3 жыл бұрын

This man is so out ouf this world I cannot believe it

@dakini365 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, he operates in the world minimally.

@hemamalinirs1002 4 ай бұрын

Beautifully explained ❤

@suryaone1180 3 жыл бұрын

A symphony

@Mindywright27 3 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, I get it...straight in the heart and then a smile arises. That’s why I’m here, deepening and melting away more everyday. Thank you Rupert for your incredible way with blending words into understanding. 💖

@ericspoor8175 6 жыл бұрын

even after having a good grasp of emptyness, this surely gives great insight into letting go of causation :edit: and free choice alltogether

@rosisunny9302 3 жыл бұрын

eric spoor We do have choices ,we jest not aware most times!

@dayasilvia 3 жыл бұрын

Amazing. Profound. Mind blowing.

@alfogel3298 5 жыл бұрын

“Mind wants to know that which is beyond mind. To know that which is beyond mind, mind must go-vanish, leaving no vestige of itself behind. The humour of it is, the mind, which is finite, wants to retain itself and yet know Truth, which is infinite. This is the position of those who seek Truth through intellect. Few grasp this fact, and so most grope and grapple in vain.” -Avatar Meher Baba

@Corbinandhenry 4 жыл бұрын

Your comment made me think of J. Krishnamurti who has profoundly changed my life, thank you al

@michaelbizoukas 7 ай бұрын

So beautiful!

@jessegandy4510 6 жыл бұрын

all our consciousness sits in the background of each of our brain's and watches life happen to each of us all at once

@angeloiodice9304 4 жыл бұрын

MASTERFUL clarity given by an eloquent -STATE-OF-PRESENT-AWARENESS in the guise of a handsome young man. Blessed to hear this exchange. Rupert delivers with such compassion.

@honestinsky 6 жыл бұрын

Wow another really excellent video Rupert. You are quickly becoming one of my favorite spiritual teachers. Thank you so much for taking the time and effort to create and post your marvelous videos. I appreciate you : )

@davidmeyers580 2 жыл бұрын

He's like the second buhhda...

@alisonsalter8352 2 жыл бұрын

@@davidmeyers580 couldn't agree more...as One

@glynemartin 6 жыл бұрын

Super stuff as usual. Rupert digs in on this one, you definitely needs to revisit this to first understand the message and finally SEE the picture or as he puts it...to just "get it." Mind to mind transmission and reception is ultimate (but very deceptively difficult) communication. This shows the limits of the thinking mind...and how difficult it is to let go of our conditioning to over think....

@michaelschulz1096 6 жыл бұрын

so so good Rupert!

@Mountain_Dhamma 9 ай бұрын

Desire is the only agent in the chain of causation. Awareness simply knows the arising of desire, creation of the seeker, satisfaction of the desire, and death of the seeker. The linking of these patterns is the structure of identity. This pattern is what the narrative self is composed of. It’s driven by natural law. An ideal universe (made of consciousness) is still naturalistic (governed by observable, deterministic, laws) Freedom is simply the letting go of the self that is the shadow of desire, and resting as the unconditional knowing of all activities without seeking or avoiding

@quantumhealingtools 2 жыл бұрын

Modern day harbinger of a revolution in consciousness.

@MichaelLittle47 6 жыл бұрын

Good talk. The limited mind can only construct a view of reality that is reflective of its own order. So our perception is a form of projection occurring within such a mind. The upshot is that our view of reality is entirely distorted as long as awareness is operative within those parameters. The burning question becomes how do we begin to see beyond the boundaries imposed through the constricted framework of consciousness?

@sumokem 4 жыл бұрын

Same question. I wish someone can shed light on it. Thank you.

@widipermono229 2 жыл бұрын

Just by do not identify yourselves with your mind, just witnessing the movement of thoughts with no judgments, choiceless awareness

@alfogel3298 3 жыл бұрын

The closet we come to God’s most beyond state is when we are in deep soundless sleep. When we awake from deep sleep, the mind will look at the time and say “ it’s 6 o’clock.. I went bed last night at 1 o’clock and woke up at 6. So 5 hours of time had elapsed. But the mind was not present ( it was dormant) in deep sleep, so that’s the minds interpretation based upon its finite limited nature. But in reality, in deep sleep there is no time , it’s a timeless state; in other words time ceases to exist ( only dormantly or latently) in sound sleep. So to experience the sound sleep state; in other words to be AWAKE in deep sleep the mind has to disappear permanently. Rupert is correct about the gap between thoughts being the true Reality; or any gap ( cessation of thoughts) whether it be the gap between thoughts. Between the Dream state and sound sleep state or between the sound sleep and gross awaken state ( we call the world of body forms-human or lower forms of evolution). Avatar Meher Baba said it best when he discoursed the following: “Mind wants to know that which is beyond mind. To know that which is beyond mind, mind must go-vanish, leaving no vestige of itself behind. The humour of it is, the mind, which is finite, wants to retain itself and yet know Truth, which is infinite. This is the position of those who seek Truth through intellect. Few grasp this fact, and so most grope and grapple in vain. “ -Meher Baba

@saraswathiab5995 3 жыл бұрын

Beautiful Rupert.Its a notional entity mind arrogating all perceptions and thoughts to itself."how long does the chain go on"is a very beautiful question.As long as the formless substratum is not recognised or as long as we understandingly realise that it is the mind's interpretations.

@noahintara6619 3 жыл бұрын

It’s so clear. And liberating.

@justbreakingballs 5 жыл бұрын

This seems to overlook memory. The thoughts are aware of the previous thought and considerate of previous thoughts. So memory ties them all together. Have you ever thought what was I thinking about then scrolled and remembered ahhhh I was thinking about that and continued to have your thoughts about whatever. You continued to have a thought. You scrolled through history to remember what you were thinking. Somethings controlling that process. This idea that thoughts are just bouncing up without connection is something I’m struggling with.

@saraswathiab5995 3 жыл бұрын

Yes memory is the content and continuity of mind.Without it there can be no meaningful self of identity, nor time/space.But the Awareness can exist without memory.

@nocosa 2 жыл бұрын

Toughts are not aware. Mind is not aware. You are aware of them.

@purpleglitter9596 2 жыл бұрын

Memory is in the zero point field.

@paulamalcolm6092 Жыл бұрын

Great Conversation!❤❤

@andriusmars2409 6 жыл бұрын

this is simply mind-blowing...

@higheryibes4430 3 жыл бұрын

What I love about Rupert is the patience and compassion he has to get people in to experience what is conceptual. I saw many gurus getting angry (even though it is not egoic) when sharing the wisdom and seeing the disciples are not getting it. Rupert is like a buddy talking while having a cup of tea.

@dexx44 2 жыл бұрын

Awareness doesn't get angry

@84sahi Жыл бұрын

He is enlightened pisces sign. How can he ever not be compassion and empathist - Jesus was pisces born in March like rupert. Very spiritual beings.

@Andrea-64 3 жыл бұрын

Finally someone agrees with me we really don't have a choice.

@dakini365 2 жыл бұрын

In the relative you have choice. When you feel like a person there are personal things to do.

@honestyfenix530 5 ай бұрын

Totally agree. This seems to be one of the Hardest Truths for most human beings to accept. It must be experienced clearly, to be understood. Regards and best of luck 🙏

@highlanderes 12 күн бұрын

More than 30 years ago scientists measured brain activity in the brains decission center and nerve/muscle impulse activity simultaneously, on a person asked to turn on/off a lamp, when they themselves decide to do so. Surprisingly the movement to turn on/off the lamp came before the decission in the brain by many milliseconds. It was referenced in Tor Norretranders book “The user Illusion, cutting consciousness down to size”. Highly recommended for the curius brain. I never forgot that and the implications of it - the world is not what it seems.

@matthewking7874 5 жыл бұрын

awesome wisdom

@christinemiller230 6 жыл бұрын

Brilliant

@sihamknajm Жыл бұрын

Brilliant as always beloved Teacher 🙏💖✨

@greatescape7735 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant analogy! 👏

@advadhuta 3 жыл бұрын

Clear. Awesome. Direct and spoken with compassion.

@ommeditationmind1554 4 жыл бұрын

In the beginning Rupert says 1st thought is "coffee or Tea?" then there is a blank or silent pause and then 2nd thought arises and says "tea." He says there is no one who made a choice in between the two thoughts..meaning there was no thought in between the two thoughts saying "uhmm, let me decide." then yes he is correct. But in life most people spend endless hours in between thinking and analyzing before arriving at a decision or a choice....so in between the two illusory thoughts there is an illusory "I" person choosing.....all of this when the mind is active with the illusory person-identity present. ....so in this illusory world there is a "person" making choices...there is a chooser and a choice, although as part of the illusory drama. However, when the mind is not present, thoughts arise without the illusory "I" there is "no identity" there no one there to choose or to do anything....in the Diamond Sutra Buddha talks about giving as something that arises or overflows naturally as it is our (consciousness) nature without having to think things through (the illusory "I" or person identity is not there). An enlightened one does not regard oneself as the giver or being some benevolent being that owns something that is his to give, nor does oneself see the recipient as someone in need or deficient in some way. Both are single same consciousness.

@jasbhabra6843 3 жыл бұрын

Good explanation. We only connect to the soul (Atman, Rhu, Spirit) through silence. Thoughts take you away from that connection back to the ‘I’. As Eckhart Tolle says enjoy the ‘play of form’, the body/mind/intellect. We are none of these but much deeper awareness/soul Bless Jas 🙏🏾

@dr.susheelkhemariya8966 3 жыл бұрын

Bahut.bahut.gretitude.abhar.Bahut.bahut.dhanyabad.thanks

@MrPJFurey 6 жыл бұрын

Mooji is the man when it comes to awareness and teaching it, love that guy.

@markushultqvist4765 6 жыл бұрын

mooji is a fraud! A scam. People go to see him for big money in Portugal, just to hear the enlightenment nonsense he speak. No brainer why moojis life is blissful. He got it all for free, he just have to speak some buzzwords about God and then his whole lifestyle in sunny and good weather Portugal is financed. You come home when you meet Thich Nhat Hanh. He is the real deal. Eckart tolle is also a Fraud, just like Adyashanti, Sadhguru and Osho. The only true learder is Thich Nhat Hanh. I saw him in real life once, such inspiring teacher. Forget about Rupert, Mooji and others. Follow Thich Nhat Hanh. He said "A cloud can never die, just as persons, both are continuing processes fr eternity. What beautiful buzzword, only Thich Nhat Hanh can say something that beautiful. I am crying as I write this, that is how much I love Thich Nhat Hanh.

@MrPJFurey 6 жыл бұрын

I don't think his enlightenment training worked if you are so offended in Mooji, I never visited him in person but I learned much from him years ago, truly an exceptional human, or should I say there was much learned, who is to say who learned those things, haha. But you should not exercise such hatred for Mooji he has done nothing to harm or hinder, he does also seek the truth like you, have your masters teaching been ill gotten and thus they are ill gone? Nor should you express such love towards another one who is flesh like yourself and hence containing sin, your love is rightfully deserving to God alone. Not another. You may or may not know this but it is true. God is True.

@markushultqvist4765 6 жыл бұрын

You are right in your last part! God is true! I shouldn't express that much love to a human in flesh, not even Thich Nhat Hanh, and especially not a black man like Mooji. Christianity has all answers. And God is quite different from a black middle age human male in human flesh like Mooji, quite a difference, don't you think?

@rahulkulkarni536 6 жыл бұрын

MrPJFurey Mooji is a great guy, a really loving presence. But he insults vedanta by calling himself a teacher. He is a neo advaita guy.

@spaceoflove 6 жыл бұрын

Learn from everyone. Follow no one. (Buddha) I maintain that truth is a pathless land, and you cannot approach it by any path whatsoever, by any religion, by any sect. (Krishnamurti)

@boswelljj1 6 жыл бұрын

The only 'I' that is present is the background of awareness and it is this 'I' that chooses. Identify with the thoughts then quite rightly there's no free will or choice, but identify with awareness itself and then you are in a position to choose.

@TheKstuart 6 жыл бұрын

No, absolute awareness has no preference of any sort, so it never chooses anything, just as the sun does not choose to shine or not. Absolute awareness is watching a movie. In the movie, characters do not choose anything, it is all in the script already. As Spira says, the movie is viewed by the "self-aware screen" - which is the only "I".

@smilelikeUmeanit90 4 жыл бұрын

@@TheKstuart on point

@glittermuse-1 3 жыл бұрын

This one is IT.

@pilargarcia6724 4 жыл бұрын

Genial!!!! Muchísimas gracias

@priitoinas73 3 жыл бұрын

Between two thoughts there is a gap and that gap is Pure Awareness. Time does NOT exist in Pure Awareness. In that PURE AWARENESS is ETERNITY. If you MEDITATE and get established in Pure Awareness you experience the existence of your own GOD!

@HomicidalDavid 6 жыл бұрын

I knew the answer was lines. It's like how you draw lines to make a square, then make two squares to make a cube to appear 3D.

@Kltarver Жыл бұрын

We’re a selecting flood light with the ability to focus

@miglena2s 3 жыл бұрын

"Oh Yes. That's it." ❤

@josephmitchell6796 Жыл бұрын

Damn Rupert, can i get an Amen!

@atuldambalkar2914 6 жыл бұрын

Very well explained and "I" is the awareness and in reality, there is no separate "I". The mind tries to create this illusion of causality with the help of time. But my question is "from where does the thoughts of choices even appear". "What" is seeding these thoughts in front of the awareness? Is it the sub-conscious or the super-conscious? The thought appears in mind, so the mind is not creating these thoughts! But who is creating these thoughts then??

@zulubeatsprince Жыл бұрын

The mind and body are producing these thoughts... or ripples based on biochemistry and memories.

@sandycarter5300 Жыл бұрын

@zulubeatsprince Only there is no biochemistry...there is no matter at any seeming level, and so, no biochemistry, no biology, no nervous system, no anatomy, etc.

@karinkling3362 Жыл бұрын

Grandiose!

@skandi86 Жыл бұрын

I have a question that I have thought about and I see nobody asking: If time is the filter we see trough reality in out finite mind, how does consciousness experience itself through us, if there is no time. He has said that we exist in this finite form so consciousness could see (experience) itself from the outside. How does consciousness unravel. There must be a movement, otherwise it would all be static and we wouldn't exist. Good luck answering that. You can thank me later

@maksymkrammer 6 жыл бұрын

After deleting cause and effect, all we can do is pretend that there is cause and effect.

@malabuha 5 жыл бұрын

What would be the difference?

@smilelikeUmeanit90 4 жыл бұрын

:xD

@TheSolsonia2003 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙏

@tryadifferentone354 4 жыл бұрын

How many more ways to describe Plato's cave?

@pureone26 6 жыл бұрын

I would love to see a nonduality conversation between Rupert and Robert Thurman (of tibetan buddhism nonduality)...

@TigerDragonStorm 6 жыл бұрын

Nice . Feel like this has been uploaded before though

@noha3962 3 жыл бұрын

Wow

@TheBeardedSandman 3 жыл бұрын

There are parts of this that I agree with, and there are parts of it that I don't. The idea that I don't have a free will and cannot choose for myself is seeing past the mark. It is because we are beings who live within this dimension we call time allows the possibility of choosing.

@Westeroni3 2 жыл бұрын

The illusion of choice is a real illusion, but an illusion nonetheless.

@TheBeardedSandman 2 жыл бұрын

@@Westeroni3 I respect your opinion, but I firmly reject such a narrow view of the human experience. We are not mindless automatons going from one meal to the next; one physically gratifying experience to the next. We are conscious living human beings with an ability to choose for ourselves what we will or will not do with our lives. Innate value and morality are prime examples of this concept. If I was a mindless complex organism, then I would just be following what my body wants when it wants it, but because I'm NOT mindless, because I am going about using my free will to choose, I'm NOT just doing whatever my body wants.

@Westeroni3 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheBeardedSandman I did not say you were mindless. You wrote this comment because you felt a stronger desire to reply than you did to not reply. One want overpowered other wants in that moment, so that is what you did. We are very complex, in body and in mind. But what we truly are is neither. That is just how I experience it, I can respect that you can not see it that way. Side note. Just because I don't believe we have a will of our own, to choose separately from the flow of life as we move through it, does not mean that I don't feel a sense of responsibility to do what I feel is the right thing to do in each moment. But after each day, I remember that I was brought to the end of my day, and things were done, and decisions were made, but they would have happened all the same whether I chose to or not and I try to give thanks and credit to the Prime mover, to God, to the infinite, whatever you call it.

@TheBeardedSandman 2 жыл бұрын

@@Westeroni3 Here's why I disagree. First, a man comes home to find his wife with another man in bed. He gets angry, grabs a gun from the closet and shoots both his wife and her lover. He gets taken to court and says, "Judge, I had no choice. Because my wife cheated on me, and because I had access to a gun, and because none of us have free will, I had no choice but to shoot them." Do you think that judge or jury would exonerate him based on the argument that he really didn't have the ability to choose and therefore has no accountability for his actions? You said so yourself, you have a sense of responsibility. So how do you reconcile this? Second point: what is love? The ability to care deeply about another human being in such a way that you would expect nothing from them in return. If we don't have the ability to choose, then love is an illusion. Just a complex array of chemical reactions inside our bodies driven by evolution - love would not exist. Love for a parent, sibling, spouse, etc. none of these would truly exist. I would submit that love truly does exist because I've experienced love myself. I as an observer can recognize, accept, and choose to love another person. This requires choice. We have an innate ability to choose.

@zmalqp555 3 жыл бұрын

This is advanced knowledge which requires choice. Each person has a truth, together we decide to manifest. Quantum entanglement is accurate.

@joaodanni Жыл бұрын

Do you even know if you are bullshitting yourself?

@zmalqp555 Жыл бұрын

@@joaodanni What's your bullshit? I mean truth?

@joaodanni Жыл бұрын

@@zmalqp555 I don't have a truth. Existence or life or subjectivity or whatever you may call this is Truth, the absolute truth. Everything else is relative and is belief. I have beliefs just has anyone else but I'm really careful to not jump to conclusions. Because of this I reason slowly and I show my line of thought so that others can understand me or point out where something's off. Your comment appears to be an asserition that can't be understood, you just stated it without justifications

@lisamitchell3116 4 жыл бұрын

I get it!

@JunoRodigan 4 жыл бұрын

If there are no objects as Rupert states, then I've been seeing things that don't exist all my life!

@widipermono229 2 жыл бұрын

You are right, unfortunately, when we are dreaming everything seems real without a shadow of doubt. After wake up we know all were unreal. At the moment we are dreaming together. Have a nice sleep...but what a nice feeling when we aware that we are now in a dream

@sandycarter5300 Жыл бұрын

@widipermono229 No. It is to have the dream be over, done, fini.

@psychb5862 3 жыл бұрын

The foreknowledge of reactions is all there is to succession

@dorotheufarias Жыл бұрын

It's like knowing how to play the game better or worse versus knowing it's a game

@wilma8326 6 жыл бұрын

Experience is a dance of consciousness. Lets say you are dancing. Does your finger chooses how to move? No, the whole body is dancing and moves as a totality. Consciousness moves in an infinite and eternal way as a whole and nothing choose his separate choice. It is just impossible, it can only be so in a dream

@jnorfleet3292 5 жыл бұрын

We intentionally develop algorithms for video games where one's actions chooses the outcome. As complex as this Quantum field is we call reality, a static fate-based system would be boring and serve no purpose in the end.

@rubenvela44 3 жыл бұрын

@@FootyFrenzyHD He means we are all one and by throwing someone in the wilderness means you are hurting yourself and no one else

@violinbuff3782 Жыл бұрын

A brilliant dialogue...I am lost and wonder if the speaker is psychologically helped himself by his seemingly deep understandings? I wonder if the indigenous American Indian thought in a much simpler manner and was content without posing such questions? Putting food on the table keeping tents warm was the real goal for them.As a much younger man I revered Krishnamurti the great man. Trouble is that I was tied into knots by his piercing and incredibly honest and to me very complex and not simple to apply at least for me. words For me seeing the beauty intelligence and honesty of the person put him sadly on a huge pedestal the anti Guru stronger than all gurus. Unfortunately that is exactly what he did not want. But you see in music we all put Bach Beethoven Brahms on a pedestal so why not Krishnamurti as well?? I was probably not clever to go with the observer, which is the observed or many other of his observations for which he sought no praise or ego related BS. Clever to say those words but to have it help one's life a different story. Living for small moments in the moment but few can for more than an augenblick! I am a classical musician, and when I am in the moment as in a concert or practicing but with many, many blips of thought bombarding the musical continuity. One must be very conscious not to use these definitions in order to play a kind of intellectual game often like disassembled car parts left, not put together in no way a put down and guess I always try to find a way or release from painful thoughts. Happy those who are in the groove and greatly helped Bravo for you!

@imagine9033 5 жыл бұрын

Thomas Campbell says you make the decision by intention

@smilelikeUmeanit90 4 жыл бұрын

i like that

@Sun.powder 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks that makes sense.

@riaanvandermerwe4810 Жыл бұрын

The fact that time don’t exist does it all for me….I see eternity when I realize this …

@fairygyani273 6 жыл бұрын

"You can only have one thought at a time." What is a finite mind doing then, when in meditation, internally repeating a mantra and at the same time catching the attention drifting off into thoughts or thought after thought whilst still repeating the mantra, and in the background, thinking of pulling the attention or awareness back to its source? Even if in a previous discourse it was said to let the attention or awareness observe itself coming and going. To me, that is a state of many thoughts overlapping and going on simulateously.

@cbmcbm2845 5 жыл бұрын

Fairy Gyani, "simultaneously" is again some random point of TIME, the imaginary term of reference for mind within its own limitations. Let the mind keep working with minimum / Zero Speed. It means that it was not the mind but I engaged in running through records of the Book of Mind !!! The moment I closes the book of records of mind, I shifts the body to sleep mode. Om namah shivaya

@ronnie4863 3 жыл бұрын

C B M CBM thank you for clarifying. Having issues with how does one live their life.? Or does this mean you must die to everything. Getting lost and confused with the clarification of reality.

@lampy4485 2 жыл бұрын

The mantra is like an unconscious heart beat developed through repetition, your thoughts are the only true thoughts and awareness is what notices the thoughts arising.

@dr.susheelkhemariya8966 2 жыл бұрын

Wahwah AhaAha DhanyabadDhanyabadDhanyabad thanksgretitude dhanyabad dhanyabadDhanyabadDhanyabad Rupertspira

@MythikHalo 4 жыл бұрын

At 8 seconds in I misheard "inward path" as "N-word pass" spoken with a lisp. 😂

@uaviez 4 жыл бұрын

Lmao me too

@uaviez 4 жыл бұрын

Wait why am I here?

@malabuha 5 жыл бұрын

Interesting thing to notice is how much pride human kind takes in the ability to make choices. We take pride in god given intelligence and assume our spot on top of the food chain. We believe and atest to something called "free will". We pick a cruise over hiking. Hiking over TV watching. It provides us with a sense of control. A sense of power. We are intelligent. We can choose. Do you realize that in order to have a prefferance and to have a choice first you must be exposed to conditioning and it is from there that you can preffer at all. It would not be possible to make a choice without slaving to an idea. And that has nothing to do with freedom, i mean freedom and choice are two contradictions to begin with. So the free will thing is a paradox assuming a legitimate place from the view of a finite scope. But in the view of the infinite, there is a sense of freedom which is not affected in any way. And on that level there is simply no other choice but to be what it is. Freedom of choice is yet another great joke told by our conditioning. Lol haha

@theself5738 5 жыл бұрын

Absolutely agree. Free will is just an illusion because those thoughts come from conditioning which came from our own ancestors and society, so that's why we tend to repeat behavioral patterns of our parents, grandparents, etc. and think that is free will and that we are so independent. I used to take pride in this too, thinking I had ownership over "my life." But it wasn't even my "choice" to be born! The minute I learned that there is no choice, but rather that "free will" or conditioning just delays the inevitable, it was a huge relief for me. Because my "free will" or conditioned self has been making useless choice after useless choice, all in the attempt of finding happiness, and never did. So when I started to surrender to the emptiness or the larger being and said "not my will," it was a huge relief and burden taken off my shoulders. To trust the awareness/higher power is much more freeing as it reveals the blueprint for my life. I just have to continue following the higher will because that will get what my little self is seeking all the time anyway.

@JorgeRodriguez-nx5eq 4 жыл бұрын

Wow Rupert are doing the same kind of mind experiments that Einstein used to formulate the theory of relativity We are in the present of a genius !

@andrewhussey8702 3 жыл бұрын

It's the Relative using the Relative position to solve an Absolute position .

@NondualityChannel 6 жыл бұрын

It is not all predetermined, scripted, or causality. Choice happens - sometimes due to conditioning or causality (which arguable is not choice)...and sometimes due to thoughtless presence or spontaneously from the Self (it could be said). There is no chooser...don't personalize it.

@AdrianMark 4 жыл бұрын

The choice was made before the universe began. Then, there was the Big Bang, or insert whatever creation of time mechanic you wish to here. You, which is I, you, the complicated human being that is the culmination of the universe up till this point are simply hearing it now.

@bthompson1767 3 жыл бұрын

This man is the Author of confusion

@AlterAbility Ай бұрын

It seems awareness is a process of the mind. I believe Ram Dass also says this. Does anyone know of a Rupert video that explains why awareness is separate from the mind?

@1stSonOfJames 3 жыл бұрын

This is what the Oracle was talking about in the Matrix.

@levimark548 10 ай бұрын

Without time there is no causality and change in events. It seems that choice requires time choice is a change in events in a sequentially way.

@MrWubakia Жыл бұрын

This is really quite profound in terms of how the idea of a self "chooser" is merely fabricated though the identification with a series of thoughts that are really just arising from infinity or whatever. The pat that I don't quite grasp is the absence of causation. Even without a self being responsible for the "choice" thought (in this case "coffee"), the thought "coffee" is still arising only as a response to the question. Isn't that, by definition, causality?

@flowwhite3192 3 ай бұрын

The cause of a question in a movie and the cause of an answer in a movie is the screen. The screen causes them both. Same in a dream at night. The cause for the guy hunting you is the same cause that makes you run. The dreamer. Same during daytime… Awareness is the only cause of everything, 🍀

@youarewhatyourelookingfor4496 Жыл бұрын

7:45 if there’s no choice, she has no choice then but to think about it. The solution to any problem is to find out who has the problem. Who’s there?

@TheGerogero Жыл бұрын

But observing "the line gets thicker, thinner, and disappears in a particular manner" _does_ communicate something of the branch per se.

@DavidPerez-yw4zs 3 жыл бұрын

So who makes the decision coffee or tea? My auntie?

@louiseshows 6 жыл бұрын

Is aether, in the "old " elements aether earth wind fire water..time? And its more like aethernity in stead of eternity? ;) Just a finite thought in my filtered mind

@OkyeameKwameBRA 2 жыл бұрын

Why is the awareness not there ? The selection of coffee over tea comes from experience, which is a consequence of time or memory . So , if you say the I is in the background , is the awareness( knowing) not more intelligent than knowledge ?

@pdvidz2266 5 жыл бұрын

I have bi-polar disorder so when I feel depressed what feels it? Itself?

@AlbionRising 4 жыл бұрын

Look up: the theory of biocentrism And: panoramic cat (you'll get why)

@nature1080 3 жыл бұрын

When there is no causality, does this mean I can plant a cherry seed and get an orangetree? If there is no connection between the question tea or coffee why makes the answer sense? And what if I would love to have a coffee, but its also the cause for terrible headaches and so I choose tea?

@jdok1000 2 жыл бұрын

If I understand RS correctly, the answer to the first question is no, because your mind creates an interpretation that is reflective of its own order. Therefore a cherry seed produces a cherry tree. 2nd question: the answer makes sense because of the glasses you look through. Same for the third.

@brindarao2052 Жыл бұрын

Still don’t understand how activities of daily life get accomplished, if everything is just a thought !

@fatimamachado3461 6 жыл бұрын

When do you come to Portugal ?

@Acode7940 Жыл бұрын

Doesn't the question, "Would you prefer tea or coffee?" already assume there is a chooser? Which prejudices the whole sequence of thoughts in the direction, of course, that there is a chooser? Isn't that the world we live in all the time---that presupposition (or conditioning) that the world consists of a myriad of choosing I's and our language is heavily "contaminated" with that assumption?