Russian Verb Strategy: Learning кто/что

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8 ай бұрын

The Russian case system is sometimes fairly straightforward: use the dative for indirect objects, the prepositional with certain prepositions, and so on. But then there are those verbs where the relationship may not be quite so clear: helping someone, being proud of someone or interested in something... the case you need may be different from what you'd expect from your native language.
So let's talk about a straightforward solution that lets you know whether a verb requires a certain case (or cases!), and whether you need a preposition. It's a simple habit that doesn't always get enough attention at the beginning levels.
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@SlavicLanguage 6 ай бұрын

I really love your English and pronunciation

@russiangrammar 6 ай бұрын

Спасибо! ☺️

@AbuTheEvil 8 ай бұрын

Thank you very much, it is the strategy I used when learning German and it served me well. For Russian, up to B1 level, I have found the book Глагол всему голова extremely useful. It lists all the verbs for the Первый сертификационный уровень with this kind of constructions: Кто анализирует что? - Кто проанализировал что? and so on.

@vrmartin202 8 ай бұрын

Looking for recommendations of dictionaries for Russian particularly iOS apps, but also hard copies.

@polyanagula 7 ай бұрын

it gave me flashbacks of learning German. most of the time the cases are the same as in Russian (I am a native speaker), but sometimes they are different and it is so annoying :) the worst one is "to remember". it is so easy and logical in Russian: помнить/вспомнить кого/что. and so weird in German: sich erinnern an Dat - literally "помниться на кому/чему". you need a preposition, the case is "wrong", and when you have almost finished the sentence you realize you forgot "sich" ("-ся") so you have to repeat the sentence from the beginning T_T

@pbworld7858 8 ай бұрын

It's interesting to note that both German and Russian uses the dative for the verb 'to help', whereas someone like an English or French speaker would automatically think the accusative would simply be used.

@imitatsiya 8 ай бұрын

I interpret the verbs as "to [give] help [to]" in Russian or German so that using the dative case makes more sense to me

@pbworld7858 8 ай бұрын

@@samcleife1047 Obviously when I said the English, I meant those who have studied languages to a certain degree.

@pbworld7858 8 ай бұрын

@@imitatsiya Yeah, that's a good way of interpreting it.

@vizekapitanlysopp7089 8 ай бұрын

really? isn't the dative marking the recipient of an action? And clearly, the helped person is that

@split4ss59 8 ай бұрын

Звонить Is giving me a hard time as a German. 😩

@atalay1854 8 ай бұрын

Hello, Can you please tell me the dictionaries that you have used in this video. I'm looking for good Rus-Eng dictionary. I'm studying Russian language in university.

@russiangrammar 8 ай бұрын

The images were from Ожегов, Словарь русского языка, and Этажи, a 2nd-year textbook, because that's what I had handy. The Oxford Russian English dictionary is good, as is Kenneth Katzner's Russian-English/English-Russian dictionary.

@atalay1854 8 ай бұрын

@@russiangrammar thank you so much!

@jeffm9227 8 ай бұрын

@@russiangrammarKatzner falls a little short unfortunately. *получать* doesn't show any indication of which case to use. *помогать* does say _(with dat.)_ . I have a 1994 edition so maybe there is a newer?? Barron's 501 Russian Verbs seems to be better at these indications. It does reference получать *что* , but doesn't mention *от* .

@VerticalBlank 8 ай бұрын

@@russiangrammar I would recommend the Collins Russian-English dictionary over the Oxford one as it gives more context. For example if you look up "also" Collins will say тоже (subject) также (object) whereas Oxford will unhelpfully say just тоже, также. Also I find the Cyrillic font in the Oxford dictionary rather -less hard- harder to read than most. Edit: I meant to say that I find the Cyrillic font in the Oxford dictionary harder to read.

@russiangrammar 8 ай бұрын

Good to know; my Katzner is in a box somewhere. Thanks for the recommendations.