RV-15 Engineering Prototype (on 26's) - Van's Employee Reveal Party (plus an "invisible feature")

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Van's Aircraft

Van's Aircraft

2 жыл бұрын

Our employees had a chance to see the RV-15 prototype airplane up close and hands-on, and we demonstrated one of the "hidden" features that will make this a back-country airplane. Spring gear? Nope - more like internally dampened! Come learn more about the test prototype at OSH22!
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@outcold1982
@outcold1982 2 жыл бұрын
Cant wait till the numbers are out and it's available
@michaeljohnson2922
@michaeljohnson2922 2 жыл бұрын
This is gonna be a game changer for them and the public.
@pauleyplay
@pauleyplay 2 жыл бұрын
Depends on how much ?
@WoutervanTiel
@WoutervanTiel 2 жыл бұрын
Why? Please elaborate, no details here. Looks like a regular tail dragger.
@GunganWorks
@GunganWorks 2 жыл бұрын
It’s like a modernized, homebuilt Cessna 170. I love it!
@richardseton7014
@richardseton7014 2 жыл бұрын
exactly
@EJWash57
@EJWash57 2 жыл бұрын
Sooo... you know for a fact that it seats four?
@GunganWorks
@GunganWorks 2 жыл бұрын
@@EJWash57 I do not know how many seats it has-I am not associated with Van’s Aircraft. I could make a case for 2 or 4 seats. My gut says it’s going to be 2 seats with a huge baggage area.
@AlwaysDoingSomething
@AlwaysDoingSomething 2 жыл бұрын
@@EJWash57 Yeah... looks like a two plus one maybe or baggage.
@josesbox9555
@josesbox9555 2 жыл бұрын
If two seats hoping for a rear baggage door.
@dwelch2165
@dwelch2165 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Those skins are smooth and straight! Ask any home builder what an achievement that is. 👍👍
@n539rv
@n539rv 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s do this before I get any older!!
@BabaDka
@BabaDka 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats Van's!
@charosenz
@charosenz 2 жыл бұрын
It's PERFECT! Great job VA!!
@Pilotpaulie
@Pilotpaulie 2 жыл бұрын
Shocks are inside the fuselage! Interesting idea. I’d love to see that floorboard and firewall to see how that’s constructed. Oshkosh maybe?!?!
@josesbox9555
@josesbox9555 2 жыл бұрын
Like a Stinson?
@Pilotpaulie
@Pilotpaulie 2 жыл бұрын
Ahhh that’s right. Thank you!
@SoloRenegade
@SoloRenegade 2 жыл бұрын
like a F1 or Indy racecar?
@pi.actual
@pi.actual 2 жыл бұрын
@@josesbox9555 or a PA-12 or a Luscombe or a....
@josesbox9555
@josesbox9555 2 жыл бұрын
@@pi.actual Helio courier.
@brianfoster9090
@brianfoster9090 2 жыл бұрын
That's my new dream plane. All this time I've been thinking of putting big tires on an RV6, now I won't have to.
@Elios0000
@Elios0000 2 жыл бұрын
built strong! i like it
@thomascharlton8545
@thomascharlton8545 2 жыл бұрын
Check out dem flaps! Ain't yer typical Vans.
@jemo_hack
@jemo_hack 2 жыл бұрын
Mini-Helio! Love it!
@snotnosewilly99
@snotnosewilly99 2 жыл бұрын
Vans appears to be getting into the STOL business.
@hockeytops
@hockeytops 2 жыл бұрын
Are we going to talk about the guy who looked like a man-sized Elmo from behind?
@victorvodkafish
@victorvodkafish 2 жыл бұрын
Check the main landing gear spring suspension in the belly of the Aeronautica Macchi MB.308 (1946 vintage)
@bobbylcraig
@bobbylcraig 2 жыл бұрын
Mike Patey is gonna strap a PT6 to this.
@jayhasch827
@jayhasch827 2 жыл бұрын
LOL
@jimydoolittle3129
@jimydoolittle3129 2 жыл бұрын
And the mariachi came next 🎶🥂 🎊
@jimydoolittle3129
@jimydoolittle3129 2 жыл бұрын
very nice plane, like all Vans products ❤️👏✈️ and that party was incredible, just like the plane that was there ✈️, everyone enjoying delicious sandwiches and fine wines, 🥂🍾🥪🥟🍤🍱🍣
@SpacemanRick
@SpacemanRick 2 жыл бұрын
I want one!
@terrallputnam7979
@terrallputnam7979 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet plane! More than I can afford.
@Mike-01234
@Mike-01234 2 жыл бұрын
I'm expecting 100k flying if you think about it that is average price of lowest priced SLSA that isn't an ultralight type aircraft. I agree my wife never let me blow 100k on an airplane I'm stuck with ultralights building a Chinook 2 DR landing gear with a 2 stroke engine. Have about 32k invested when I'm done at least I will be in the air.
@phatvu3811
@phatvu3811 2 жыл бұрын
Compare to a new C172 that costs $500K, this is a bargain.
@robjohnson8522
@robjohnson8522 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mike-01234 I have '64 182 that I paid 56K for. $359 month. It's ugly (bad paint and interior) but its IFR, long rang tanks, one of the best light aircraft engines ever made with low time and great compressions and goes 150mph /130 kias.
@ericsallustio
@ericsallustio 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not trying to tell anyone how to throw a party, BUT I don’t see anyone with a beer in their hand 🤷‍♂️
@EJWash57
@EJWash57 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe because it's the middle of a work day?
@skyeparker5822
@skyeparker5822 2 жыл бұрын
The plane is so good beer is not needed
@iansampson2492
@iansampson2492 2 жыл бұрын
That's going sell like mad....
@RamadiTaxiDriver60M
@RamadiTaxiDriver60M 2 жыл бұрын
Will this be aerobatic like the other RVs? Can you fly with one or both doors removed?
@owencarey2954
@owencarey2954 2 жыл бұрын
I've largely ignored Van's because aerobatic aircraft is their specialty, and those are of little interest to me, but I love the look of this divergence from their standard fare :D
@GunganWorks
@GunganWorks 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s a bit too much to say Vans specializes in aerobatic aircraft. They are great cross country machines that also happen to be able to loop and roll.
@phatvu3811
@phatvu3811 2 жыл бұрын
You probably missed out on the cross country machines such as the RV9 and the 4-seat RV10.
@owencarey2954
@owencarey2954 2 жыл бұрын
@@phatvu3811 Huh, maybe I’ll check those out. Thanks.
@danmcburney3247
@danmcburney3247 2 жыл бұрын
Wow what a comment !! Dick designed an built some aircraft that have one of the best envelopes in the business ( stall speed to top end ) they take off in 300' to 400 feet and cruise 200 mph. AND they're also built very strong and quick ( I like very strong ) so part of them are areobatic. Of little interest ??? In case of an engine out you can land in less than 500 feet. You can also cruise at around 200 mph in a very strong airplane. I think that's VERY interesting ?
@owencarey2954
@owencarey2954 2 жыл бұрын
@@danmcburney3247 They are excellent aircraft I am sure; it’s just that most of them are not something that appeals to me. I didn’t mean to insult them, insinuate that they were overly specialized, or suggest anything negative whatsoever. I have no doubt they are superb.
@VRTOC
@VRTOC 2 жыл бұрын
Any info regarding the RV15 specs?
@flytoday
@flytoday 2 жыл бұрын
looks like a Cessna 170
@HoltAircraft
@HoltAircraft 2 жыл бұрын
Not what I was expecting. Don't know what to think about it yet.
@dieselmakesmehappy
@dieselmakesmehappy 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder what the kit price will be?
@EJWash57
@EJWash57 2 жыл бұрын
2-seats, or 4-seats?
@deadwood97
@deadwood97 2 жыл бұрын
Float kit?
@rianjohnson7484
@rianjohnson7484 2 жыл бұрын
Yes eventually
@acs9787
@acs9787 2 жыл бұрын
Look at those flaps! Lots of potential with vg’s
@andrewmorris3479
@andrewmorris3479 2 жыл бұрын
If you want to see an impressive wing check out the Zlin Norden.
@garyfischer4357
@garyfischer4357 2 жыл бұрын
Noooo...keep your "VG'S" off of that clean wing! Do you know how hard it is to sweep ice and snow off of a wing that has those "fashion add-ons"?
@andrewmorris3479
@andrewmorris3479 2 жыл бұрын
@@garyfischer4357 Retractable slats will fix that issue.
@garyfischer4357
@garyfischer4357 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewmorris3479 A proper airfoil is ALL that is needed...and lots of ponies up front. I am confident Vans have "the right stuff".
@SVSky
@SVSky 2 жыл бұрын
If a two seater seems like it would be a great replacement for the 150/152 series
@yesode4201
@yesode4201 2 жыл бұрын
Help me to understand how a 100k+ airplane is going to be a replacement!
@pauleyplay
@pauleyplay 2 жыл бұрын
SO well said !! If it stops at 100. How many times has this been tried ? How many can they sell. Just what the public wants,a tailwheel trainer
@Captndarty
@Captndarty 2 жыл бұрын
@@pauleyplay why would anybody think this was only a 100Kt airplane? My Rans S 21 with a less powerful engine than what this will likely have is good for 130kts up high. Vans is not building this as a trainer they’re building it for all the flatland posers that want to go to Johnson Creek ID and replicate Trent Palmers Bush flying. It will sell like hotcakes.
@pauleyplay
@pauleyplay 2 жыл бұрын
@@Captndarty We shall see You have a good point
@NoRemorse92086
@NoRemorse92086 2 жыл бұрын
@@Captndarty I think he means $100k
@seamuscashin2606
@seamuscashin2606 2 жыл бұрын
have the been looking at scrappy
@darcybanasiak7293
@darcybanasiak7293 2 жыл бұрын
Looks alot like a Murphy Rebel and Elite with newer construction methods
@robluce6334
@robluce6334 2 жыл бұрын
Came here to find this comment. As a Murphy Rebel builder, the RV-15 is the end of Murphy Aircraft. There's no reason to buy a Murphy Rebel/Elite if Vans comes out with this. Murphy has been "gone" for awhile now, which is kind of a shame. The Murphy Rebel was a great plane supported by a iffy company.
@gutsymovies
@gutsymovies 2 жыл бұрын
Airframe stress analyst here (Boeing, Cessna, Textron, etc.) Why the added weight and complexity of some internal mechanism for the gear? How is that superior to a solid flat spring like a C-170/C-180? Is there some kind of oil-filled damper on the RV-15? If so I have to ask why the added weight and complexity? I can't imagine short field stopping distance is really that much improved. Takeoff distance zero improvement.
@SilvaAdventures
@SilvaAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
Try landing a rocky field in a Cessna and you will understand why shocks are a wonderful addition to an off-airport aircraft.
@charosenz
@charosenz 2 жыл бұрын
I believe this shock absorbing gear will greatly reduce the (unwanted) bounce that typical flat solid gear delivers.
@fly4fun
@fly4fun 2 жыл бұрын
The Husky also has an internally dampened landing gear which is a big improvement over the pre 2012 Huskys. And essentially zero maintenance difference.
@Pilotpaulie
@Pilotpaulie 2 жыл бұрын
Where is the fuel going to be located on the kit version? I saw it’s in the cabin on the test plane. Hope that changes.
@Captndarty
@Captndarty 2 жыл бұрын
🤦🏻‍♂️
@toddw6716
@toddw6716 2 жыл бұрын
If I owned a flight school I would be ordering these to replace my overpriced c172.
@markmineart5767
@markmineart5767 2 жыл бұрын
4 seater or 2? Looks pretty roomy in there
@scratchbuilder5952
@scratchbuilder5952 2 жыл бұрын
Great question… I’ve put a plane purchase on hold…waiting for the answer to that question…I was hoping an employee would blurt it out…. Vans… do a guy a solid and post if this is 2+2 capable…
@paulbrunner1818
@paulbrunner1818 2 жыл бұрын
The 15 will be a 2 seater. The future may be a 4 seater (RV 16)
@Conn653
@Conn653 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a baby C-180 :-)
@robjohnson8522
@robjohnson8522 2 жыл бұрын
a baby 180 would be a 170! :)
@Conn653
@Conn653 2 жыл бұрын
@@robjohnson8522 A '170' has a rounded tail. This has a squared-off tail, just like a '180'. Still, it's a re-birth of a great aircraft!
@Mike-01234
@Mike-01234 2 жыл бұрын
I like how the shocks are built inside the fuse would be interesting to see the design. Does it meet LSA standards would be even cooler maybe this will be coordinated with FAA announcement raising the LSA weight.
@nickolaim8712
@nickolaim8712 2 жыл бұрын
Just from the size of it (grown men standing under the wing without hunching) there's no way it's going to meet the current LSA max gross and have any sort of useful load
@rianjohnson7484
@rianjohnson7484 2 жыл бұрын
It will meet the current proposed MOSAIC standards…. Which are nearly approved in Brazil this month. Hopefully the FAA will adopt the same. 4 seats, 3000 lbs, 61 kts Vso
@auburnaviator6167
@auburnaviator6167 2 жыл бұрын
@@rianjohnson7484 are these the RV15 specs you’re listing or the current MOSAIC spec requirements? Many are wondering if it will be 2 seat or 4 seat!
@rianjohnson7484
@rianjohnson7484 2 жыл бұрын
Those specifications are for MOSAIC in Brazil. They also added Vh 185 kts. Just passed into law this morning. As for the 15 we will give more information at Oshkosh
@nickolaim8712
@nickolaim8712 2 жыл бұрын
@@rianjohnson7484 thanks for the update
@ChuckThree
@ChuckThree 2 жыл бұрын
Inverted bungee or torsion beam suspension….?
@Mike-01234
@Mike-01234 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I'm wondering like to see inside there wonder about the weight obviously get better cruise without all that suspension below but a trade off is weight.
@andrewmorris3479
@andrewmorris3479 2 жыл бұрын
Electric retractable slats and double slotted flaps and we’d really have something.
@simonhughes-king8493
@simonhughes-king8493 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it basically be a 701 at that point? Vans are pretty good at making what they want to make.
@phatvu3811
@phatvu3811 2 жыл бұрын
It's an experimental. Experiment as much as you need to.
@robjohnson8522
@robjohnson8522 2 жыл бұрын
As a builder I want SIMPLICITY! I am not even crazy about the dampened gear legs as it adds unneeded complexity
@andrewmorris3479
@andrewmorris3479 2 жыл бұрын
@@simonhughes-king8493 Not even close, the 701 still uses a high lift airfoil. This way you could keep the more laminar flow airfoil and completely change the low end and safety margin that true retractable slats provide.
@andrewmorris3479
@andrewmorris3479 2 жыл бұрын
@@robjohnson8522 Check out the Zlin Norden, the slats only weigh 22 pounds and are interconnected using one servo motor. Motor fails and the both slats fail in their current position.
@barrymcockner7288
@barrymcockner7288 2 жыл бұрын
I hope it cruises at 300kts
@TheSilverNerd
@TheSilverNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Will the fuel tanks be inside the wing?
@SoloRenegade
@SoloRenegade 2 жыл бұрын
why wouldn't they be?
@thewaterengine
@thewaterengine 2 жыл бұрын
@@SoloRenegade if the wings were foldable or removable the tanks would likely not be in the wings (it’s rare see eg rv12)
@SoloRenegade
@SoloRenegade 2 жыл бұрын
@@thewaterengine SPA Panther? Kitfox? Zenith have removable wings. Cessna 150, 172, etc. have removable wings. Not rare at all. Just a matter of preference and execution.
@nickolaim8712
@nickolaim8712 2 жыл бұрын
Previous comments from Vans official KZfaq channel indicate there will be wing tanks
@GoneOutFlying
@GoneOutFlying 2 жыл бұрын
@@SoloRenegade C150 and 172 wings aren't easily removable. They have cables for ailerons & flaps, fuel lines, pitot line, stall horn, lighting cables, fuel sensor cables. It's a maintenance job to remove or install them. The removable people are talking about is easily removable, for hangaring and transport. Like those Europa kit planes, or HK36 Dimona. I've seen the HK36 being put together in under 10 minutes. And the Europas often live on a trailer, or a garage, only to be assembled on the airfield. That's quite convenient, IMO.
@tpsu129
@tpsu129 2 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one to stop on l the Elmo hat guy?
@gregpdx
@gregpdx 2 жыл бұрын
Hah. "Elmo" is awesome. He's a terrific employee!
@toddw6716
@toddw6716 2 жыл бұрын
The new c172 replacement at half the cost. Vans should make a tricycle gear version and that would dominate the training market. Also 4 seats would stick a knife in Cessnas overpriced c172/182’s. Come on man do it.
@TalonID
@TalonID 2 жыл бұрын
They've already said that they'll have a tricycle version as well...
@toddw6716
@toddw6716 2 жыл бұрын
@@TalonID sweet, Vans giving aviation what it wants and can afford.
@RVationNation
@RVationNation 2 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that you can't use an experimental aircraft for compensation or hire so this won't be used for training purposes. and isn't designed for that anyway.
@toddw6716
@toddw6716 2 жыл бұрын
@@RVationNation there is a flight school using RV12’s not far from me. Now I think you can only get a sport pilot there but maybe Vans should look at certification or get Aopa to push for it unless they are too far in bed with Cessna.
@RVationNation
@RVationNation 2 жыл бұрын
@@toddw6716 Van's makes an SLSA version of the -12, which is why the flight school is able to use them. You don't want a certified version, that costs big bucks! In reality, nothing is probably ever going to replace Cessna in the training market. I'd guess the -15 is built around the IO-390-EXP119, that's a big engine to try and teach students in.
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