Joe, thanks for taking the time to comment and share your opinion!

I 100% agree, Joe! I don’t understand this concept of “warehousing” as FL state parks don’t allow transfer of sites. I hate that private RV parks are buying up vast tracts of land and turning them into parking lots for “busses”. -signed a 4th generation Floridian with many years of easy access camping (until the last few years).

I totally agree with your comments! I have lived and camped in Fl for 60 years! It was nice just to drive and camp without a reservation! I guess 23 million residents will do that ! Oh, I never ever go to RV parks !

I prefer the Southwest and refuse to pay those crazy prices in Florida. A yearly New Mexico State Park pass will cost you $240. Then you pay $4 a night for water/electric sites, $8 a night for full hookups, or free at any primitive sites. Depending on the park, it's either by reservation, first come first serve, or a combination of both. Nevada is the same, except all sites are first come first serve.

Florida has some work to do on our parks, but as a resident and native, I have to agree with you Joe. I prefer state parks over private ones who seem to cater to the wealthy. Florida residents deserve to be able to book out longer than none residents. Just like other states. We camp year around, whenever the mood hits us. Mostly in Florida but Georgia, NC and TN as well. Florida SP’s do not allow the transfer of reserved sites. It’s not all about money John.

100% correct! This and the fact that campgrounds keep some site out of the reservation system. Colt Creek SP has 34 campsites and 3 are not bookable. Start by changing these two items and it would be much improved. Thanks for commenting!

That is not just a Florida problem. It happens everywhere.

@@JohnMarucci the parks keeping the sites out of the system do so for last minute walk-ins. Personally, I think it’s a great practice. Keep in mind not all who camp have access to mobile reservation websites.

​@@JohnMarucciNot sure how to fix that other than making a steep cancellation fee for cancellatioms within 8 hours of arrival without good reason. But then we woukd have a bunch of liars. 2nd have folks who cant get a reservatiom sign up for a notification service that contacts them once a canx occurs , which sounds Ike ghost booking.

As John probably knows, Michigan has tried to deal with this issue by making it more expensive to cancel the closer you get to your reservation. Depending on when you cancel it could cost you up to 40% of your original reservation. The other thing people do is book a few days ahead of when they actually want to use a campsite so they can get a jump on reservations, then cancel the days they don't want to use. This also can cost up to 40% of the non-used days when you modify the reservation later. I'm not sure how well it has worked, particularly on booking a few days ahead. Most people in this case feel it's worth the extra cost to get the campsite they want. All of this to say, people will find a way to game most any system.

Keep your state parks, and we will keep our tax dollars when you seek help after a storm.

@@528jodie Agreed. Can't imagine giving first dibs will attract out of state revenue...at all. Not a good policy IMO.

I’ve seen the same thing. Can’t book a site but show up and see vacancies. Many parks also leave sites off the system. Colt Creek SP- 34 sites, 3 non-bookable. Thanks for sharing your perspective.

I know You drive into a campground and one third of the lots are empty but yet you cant stay there. Im a Fl. resident also. I am not staying at these new 100. dollar a night campground with all the amentities I do not want.

i agree.

​By FL Statute 10 % of each park must be held for two reasons... In the event that a site is damaged or a user fails to vacate there is a standby site available for the incoming guest... If after all check in and out is complete then the site can be reserved for up to 14 days by a "walk up" customer....

On the surface it makes sense since state residents pay taxes. I would argue that tourism allows for no state income tax (much like Hawaii free health care). Beautiful warm places attract people like me who bring in revenue to the state that lower the tax burden for residents. I do think because FL is such a huge winter destination, there will be some adverse effects to the State Park revenues. Thanks for sharing your opinion!

@@JohnMarucci Considering I am having a large tourist destination being built just one mile down the road from me, I kinda get it in terms of Florida residents. We are all dreading its open even with it bringing money in for the area.

Makes sense. It seems like central Florida especially has so many more people than a few years ago. I totally understand why many residents want some curtailment of the influx. It’s tough for me to say goodbye to something I’ve enjoyed some much in the state parks. Thanks for sharing!

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I’m no expert. Maybe limiting the length of stay would even things out. Northerners all want the 14 day max, then bounce from park to park all winter. Maybe a max amount of days in the system annually, to discourage “ living” in the parks instead of visiting.

Great point Pam. The reservation system allows for this and ties up inventory. Also, parks hold back some sites out of the system. Change this and raise prices on out-of-state campers during the winter and it would open up huge inventory for locals and bring in more revenue. Thanks for taking the time to comment!

​@@JohnMarucci I've informed my state representative about raising revenues for park improvements simply by charging out of state residents a surcharge as I have to pay in many other states. Her response was to pass the buck.

How about Equestrian Campers having first chance at a horse site in a horse campground - whether a Florida resident or not.

I thought reservation fees were non-refundable if not canceled 48 hours in advance.

That is all over, and some with huge rigs, will reserve two or three sites, and family and friends may come and go, but some just sit empty while they sit in their air conditioned units and park towed vehicles on the other lot. And without a clear refund and cancellation policy, many people will chalk it up to loss and it will sit empty.

Only if you are online 11 months in advance will you as a resident benefit. This is really favoring planners vs. non-planners.

I've seen in the past couple years that many non-Florida residents are increasingly booking multiple sites for the same dates because the cancel fees are so low. They just pick one of many reservations based on where they decide to be. Instead of alienating non Florida residents that "play by the rules", increase the cancel fees or just make a non-refundable policy. I'll be looking at NC, SC, GA, AZ, NM and TX next year. Florida has become way overcrowded as it is regardless of what camping policy they adopt due to the housing boom.

I don't think it will pan out they way it was sold to residents. It will still be hard to get space as the cancelation policy is too weak to prevent hoarding of sites.

It happens in many states not just Fla. I agree though. Residents should get perks. MI campgrounds fill up just as fast. I didn’t even think about people reserving multiple sites. That needs to be addressed as well from reading the comments. That explains empty sites but being told their full. Aren’t they charged though? That could get costly!

@@peppermyntpatti144 , but it must not matter or people have money they won’t miss. We have to plan and budget, my husband is handicapped so we really enjoy our time away. We budgeted for retirement and planned a lot of travel, but didn’t plan on post pandemic prices and constantly increasing fuel costs. I know parks are expensive to maintain with fuel for equipment, but people who show up eat out, souvenir shop, use grocers and various shops. I know some places are very inflated in their prices knowing popular activities in their areas, and we try to plan to eat out, and see the area. A middle ground, even a less desirable site, would mean a lot to people just trying to visit.

Penalize the abusers, not every one is the same! The "Me Myself and I" need to be put back in their place and learn to live in harmony with the society!

The private sites were overpriced in the 90's, and didn't have the educational resources for learning about the environment. Used to take the kids every year, not to Disney, but to the state parks. They have pins from parks and archaeological sites across the country, due to completing tasks, "treasure hunts" and volunteer opportunities at so many of the parks we camped at. Now my daughter is continuing the tradition.

Plenty of other states reserve a percentage of their camp sites for last minute campers. Some states looked at usage, and determined that xx% of sites need to be reserved for residents to use. A benefit to a centralized booking system, is being able to call and find out which campsites have the accommodations needed, and then planning our trip around what is available at the time we go. There's no way to make everyone happy, but imposing fees for late cancellations/no shows (most states charge a minimum of 2 nights for sites not used, and also release the site to last minute campers if there's been no contact by 10 am the morning after scheduled check-in. Meaning state parks can get paid 2x for the same site, the 2nd night of the reservation, if a no-reservation/last minute drive up arrives), and centralized booking also prevents people from booking the same nights at multiple locations and changing their mind last minute/or telling them up front that they will have to pay for both locations even if they don't use both. Of course, TN, NC and the other states using the centralized booking system charge the full amount when the reservation is made, plus any out of state camper/access fees. Refunds are only made with narrow criteria, and aren't made for people who don't cancel 48 hours in advance. Some states have the ability to request notification when sites become available. Other states, like NM, only allow ~10% of their sites to be booked in advance, which people also complain about.

I may be looking into AZ!

I think that the difference is FL is warm in winter so the demand is much higher than other states during this time frame. Likely no issue booking FL in August for out of state folks! The same outcome with more revenue likely would occur if they raised prices on out-of-state folks during winter months. It would naturally lower demand allowing locals to book.

@@JohnMarucci Florida resident here. That used to be true. We could often book a couple night weekday site on short notice. The last two years even the hot summer months are booked solid.

No problem with your new law as long as you are ok with us not supporting Florida with tax dollars to help after storms.

No Property tax is used in the FL park system... It is all bed tax revenue collected by hotel and travel industry.

Space is the issue. That and utilities in environmentally sensitive areas. Thirdly, more sites will RUIN the natural beauty of our lovely Florida State Parks. Too many sites there will effectively make them overcrowded, ugly KOAs.

They have zero incentive to add more sites. Several campgrounds could double space given the huge distances between sites. The philosophy is to preserve the natural experience, so those who win the lottery of getting a site can experience the real Florida. Michigan is exactly the opposite, 200 campsites in the space FL has 60. Season is shorter as well, so that plays into it, but the philosophy means less supply while the population of FL increases.

I may be trying this approach!

I see a lot of vacancies even at times in winter, even though the booking system shows things are full. There is a low cost to cancel so people hold onto bookings, then cancel last minute.

I don't think we can conclude that out-of-state campers are booking multiple sites without real data from the state, which they don't provide. The chart (which is based on real State data) shows out-of-state campers book early. Now residents who book early will be the winners and will be invented to book multiple reservations. Higher prices for out-of-state campers in winter would quell demand and raise revenue. Besides residents who plan out 11 months in advance, there are no winners from the bill.

I think the 30-day difference will close the door to getting any length of time at a campground, as weekends will be taken up early. So for people like me, I won't be able to plan. It is basically closing the door to longer-term travel using State Parks.

So now it will be mainly Florida residents who book several parks or sites and only stay in one site. This bill does nothing to stop that practice. And "only 30 days"? Are you joking? Campsites in desirable coastal areas in Florida are booked solid within less than a minute of the opening day for reservations. This effectively eliminates out-of-state bookings at those parks except for the few scraps, a day here and there, left over after the first month of booking. Not worth it for most of us. I know, FL residents despise Snowbirds, and now you can finally be happy. Good luck.

Roger, thanks for commenting. I don't think most Floridians understand how much revenue out-of-state visitors bring to the state. I'll likely have to join you in looking elsewhere for winter escapes or pay much higher prices at private campgrounds in Florida. Thanks for taking the time to comment.

John - tourist revenue is a blessing and a curse. As Joe above said many out of state folks come with their massive RV, too big for sites, hauling golf carts and boats. I live in Pinellas County and have early access to Ft DeSoto. It’s not one of my favorites but it’s always booked solid during the cool months. The access advantage hasn’t hurt bookings or revenue. Prices to camp there have doubled over the last couple of years. I think your idea to make non-residents pay substantially more, alongside early access for residents, would be great!

I think "despise" is too strong of a word. We love meeting people from out of state. However, as a tax paying resident, when you can't even get a campsite because of the overwhelming number of visitors, you realize something need to be done to make the system more fair.

I think you may still be disappointed even after out-of-state folks are blocked out, unless you book 11 months in advance. Not sure why FL does 11 months vs 6 months most states do. Favors long-term planners. All the best!

Ft DeSoto is a great campground. It is a county park, so is not directly effected by this state park legislation.

But it is a county park and already had a month advantage for county residents. It will not be affected by the new law.

Have you tried to get a site at the 11 months out when they become available?

@@JohnMarucci Yep. I *have* had difficulty. It's been increasingly difficult to get a site at coastal State Parks. I don't approve of much our state legislature does, but I think Florida got this one right.

The pandemic craziness has made this all over. Throughout the Midwest, private companies have come in and pushed prices up, the state parks crowded but with only on line cancellations few become available. But I see change coming, lots who jumped on the bandwagon during COVID restrictions realized camping is a lot of work, and maintaining the unit essential, and insurance on a financed unit not cheap.

John, thanks for sharing your recent experience. It is a huge buyer's market just now. Congrats on the new trailer!

Watch for quality issues. Keep up with all service on the roof! Winterize it every year by the book.

Unfortunately, the bill solves nothing of your frustrations. It favors residents who plan far in advance only. You will still need to book at 11 months to get any space, especially at popular parks. The problem is the SP system has no incentive to increase campsites even though FL population has grown fast.

@@JohnMarucci actually it does exactly that. many rvers who used to overwinter here have decided to go to other states. hence they dont lock up the state parks all winter. and i can go to the parks now. as the title says .

@@JohnMarucci florida residents dont live at the parks for months on end like hobos they get their one weaker in and go back to work

Thanks for sharing your experience!

David, thanks for taking the time to weigh in. I think you adeptly capture the sentiment of many Florida residents. Not sure why Florida goes with an 11 month lead time vs 6 months of most other states. It greatly favors planners vs. non-planners. I think this dilemma of residents not being able to get inventory will continue to exist after non-residents are blocked out. Thanks again!

Many southern residents travel to northern states during summer to escape the brutal temperatures/humidity of the south. Same idea, different seasons.

Michelle, I appreciate you engaging in the debate on this topic. I do think in winter months you will see more cancellations from in-state residents vs out-of-state campers. So, if I am right, saturation may look the same until actual stays are looked at. I stayed at Rainbow Springs SP last December and had several nights below freezing. I stayed and didn't cancel because I am far away from home. Locals likely just cancel. Same for bad weather forecasts like heavy rain events. My guess is there will be a winter hit to revenue, but maybe not a huge hit. There is a big systematic issue with being able to double book sites as well that leads to nothing showing available. I would love to hear back from residents after January 1 to find out if they are getting what was promised - to have bookable space without out-of-state competition. Thanks again!

I'm pretty sure there is not a direct connection to FL taxes and state park funding, at least not going forward, according to the new bill.

Actually the people from out of state are also paying for the parks through the money they pay for the campsites.

The reselling of sites was what the legislature used as a reason to forward the bill. Third parties book sites and set up RVs for customers who then enter the park and use the RV rented. I saw this happen this past winter at Lake Louisa. Not every other state does what FL is doing. A few others have higher rates for non-residents. I'm researching this and have yet to find a state that has a difference in booking windows for residents vs non-residents (state parks, not county parks). I hold to my original analysis that it is a short-term loss for snowbirds and a longer term loss of revenue for the State Parks. Other than FL residence who plan out 11 months in advance, it does nothing for other FL residents. I still think it was a short-sighted decision by the FL legislature (both parties), but FL resident long-term planners will be elated come January 2024. Take a look at the data on state park bookings if interested: johnmarucci.com/fsp-booking-map/

@@JohnMarucci I apologize for the gap in responding to your assessment of the situation… first, the sponsors of the legislation never said the purpose of this change was to curb resale of reservations… the media has run with that since one person said it. Anyone that reads the rules and has booked reservations knows this is not really possible on a massive scale. Where you speak of your experience at Lake Louisa did you go to the ranger and ask them who made the reservation and then verify the occupant was the same? Likely they would not tell you as that would violate confidentiality! Here is how these companies which rent an RV do it… if you don’t believe me call a few and ask them… the rental company DOES NOT make the reservation. Which makes sense… they do not want to get caught, they can only reserve 14 days at a time and a total of 56 days at any one park and reserving multiple sites for the same time and park is almost impossible to do. If a client wants to rent the RV and go to a state park the rental company requires them to make the reservation. Once the reservation at the state park is complete the rental company then reserves the appropriate RV for the client. I agree this legislation is not going to do much for the Florida residents that can’t plan for their outing 11 months out. I believe this is the primary reason there are sooooooo many sites that get reserved and go unoccupied… we are not going to get the state to do anything about this as they get the revenue… jacking up the cancellation fees might stop some of the last minute cancels but not going to solve the problem. BOTTOM LINE RESELLING IS NOT THE PROBLEM BECAUSE IT IS NOT HAPPENING ENOUGH TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE… the new law will also make it easier for the parks to catch these violators.

I'm in the same boat. After many years of enjoying Florida State Parks, I think we have in essence been locked out. Private campgrounds are an option, but there is very limited supply for the winter demand, so prices will go up. The entire thing would be solved by raising prices on out-of-state campers, but unfortunately the current bill is putting a pad lock on the state parks for people like us. More astonishing are the reaction from residents in these comments, some real vitriol, which truly justify the title of the video.

@@JohnMarucci Now you know how I, as a Florida resident, feel about being locked out of camping during prime camping time here. With all of the out of state campers as your date shows, I have given up camping from December until April. Perhaps now we residents will once again be able to plan a Florida camping trip during the winter. There are still other problems with the no shows, but this is a good start in solving our camping dilemma. I understand the feelings of out of staters concerning this issue since one of our favorite parks is a county park that has a similar one-month advantage for county residents. As such we have a very difficult time booking at that park. However, I feel it is fair.

Glad it was helpful!

Glad you enjoyed the newscast!

The cancellation issue is a big problem and solving it would help greatly toward solving this issue. The bill doesn't address this, so plan on this still being an issue even after you are no longer competing for sites with out-of-state campers. You can also overlap bookings and therefore hold multiple sites at once in reserve - this is also a huge issue. Thanks for sharing all the best!

@@JohnMarucci Perhaps one way of dealing with no-shows or those who cancel at the last minute is to impose a penalty on those who abuse the system. Perhaps after x number of no-shows or last minute cancellations you lose your in-state privileges for a year.

Glad you enjoy it!

Topsail is a nice park for sure. I do think anytime people can't get into campgrounds, it means too much demand given supply, which says pricing is too low. This is overwhelmingly evident in FL in winters. As another person commented, this should open the door for Harvest Host and Boondockers Welcome to bring in more supply of campsites.

I like the idea of punishing no-shows. I think charging more for non-residents is a good idea. The 11-month window for residents will favor planners and those who book multiple sites to only choose later and cancel what they don't want. The core issues just weren't addressed in the bill, so expect more frustration from residents after 2024. Really the underfunded SP system means no incentive to add campsites, so you'll always have more demand than supply.

That "re-selling" of sites can be stopped by requiring the name on the reservation to be camping at the site. Most places we camp, we have to show ID to register, and the Ranger will regularly drive by to make sure the person who registered (who matched the reservation with their ID) is the primary person at the campsite. We camp when we visit my parents, and the Ranger stopped at our site to ensure my dad, who had brought us lunch, would not be staying, because his car and ID didn't match any of the names (myself, spouse and kids) on the reservation.

People caught doing this should be banned permanently! The state needs to STEP UP and put procedures in place to discourage this.

You will still need to book out at 11 months to get into any of the more popular state parks. The bill doesn't solve the issue, so I'm afraid your frustrations will continue.

Yep, glad the information was helpful.

We'll see how it plays out. I think people who are farther away likely are stickier and less likely to cancel vs. someone local. The bill really is a win for FL residents who plan 11 months out, pretty much everyone else loses.

Makes sense on the surface and I am sure I would like it if I lived there. I do think it will hurt the State Parks revenue and generally raise campsite prices in winter. Thanks for taking the time to comment!

Thanks for commenting. You outline well the argument many FL residents are making. It is fair to FL residents, but not necessarily solving the issue. I have rarely been asked to show my ID when checking in at FL state parks, so that will need to change. The bill really only rewards FL residents who plan very early, but given the subsidized price of the state park campgrounds, demand will remain high and many will still be very frustrated who can't get in. A few other state parks charge higher fees to out-of-state campers, but I am not seeing other state with timing differences (still researching this). Thanks again!

Besides property tax that usually funds local schools and sales tax, what other taxes do Floridians pay?

Agreed. It's difficult to camp locally when so many people flood to Florida from all over the US and Canada. At least it gives us a chance of enjoying our local parks.

As a Florida resident and avid camper I think this is a excellent decision they have made. Many people can't afford the 60 to 70 dollar campsite you speak of.

Thanks for sharing your point of view! I would have like to see them disallow people holding multiple bookings concurrently and raise rates on out-of-state campers during winter months vs. this somewhat nuclear option, but it makes sense for local residents who pay taxes. I do think it will hurt the parks revenue.

@@JohnMarucci It makes me wonder if the weekenders will end up causing sites to stay open during the midweek rather than occupied for the entire week ? I see this in places like Fort Wilderness at Disney. Like you said earlier, there may be unintended issues.

@@JohnMarucci yes, the bill did not go far enough. We have paid very high out of state fees in Colorado, Montana, Idaho and Wyoming. But we had to pay to store the rv all winter because all state parks were filled with out of state people blocking weeks at a time.

Fully agree. Weekends will be booked, week days not so much. In January when it gets below freezing residents will cancel, snowbirds can’t, thus the loss in revenue. Also, personally sad to see this go away as a travel option. My $ are about double yours annually for the past six years.

@@JohnMarucci I agree that with the current cancellation policy that this may happen. However, this is easily fixable with a modification to the cancellation policy.

Glad you enjoyed it!

I think the winners here are FL residents who will plan 11 months out. Not sure there will be much availability for residents who don't plan far in advance.

Huge cancelation fees would help. Not sure it's out of state folks.

@@JohnMarucci Maybe corporate camp grounds need to be avoided period.

I suppose we'll see. If the State Parks don't curtail the ability to hold multiple overlapping bookings, I don't think much will change in terms of the inability to secure a campsite for residents. A non-refundable no-show deposit might do the trick, but it isn't in the bill, so don't hold you breath. Thanks for sharing your opinion.

Completely agree. Weekdays will be snapped up too by Florida retirees. After all, Floridia retirees get half off camping reservations, and they're the ones with the time to sit at home on the computers at 8am 11 months out. Bonanza! I'm sure this has create even more excitement in those circles. Florida's working folk may find it even harder to get sites after this change.

I've tried in on both my phone and laptop without an issue. Here is the link to try again: johnmarucci.com/state-park-map-desk/

Thanks for taking the time to weigh in. More perspectives make the debate better. We are all a bit myopic in this. FL residents see out-of-state folks as the problem. I see out-of-state campers as the scapegoat. There is simply too little supply at a reasonable price and given the current pricing no reason the state parks would increase supply. So the situation likely will not improve for residents even after snowbirds adjust habits away from state parks. Thanks again for taking the time to articulate a good argument. Please consider subscribing if you haven't already!

Thanks for sharing. I'll talk more about the RV manufacturing downturn in the next newscast.

The bill only favors planners over non-planners. Unless residents hop on the system at 11 months, it won't change the general frustration. Why not only allow a percentage of sites bookable by non-residents and charge them more? Also, unless you fix the ability to book overlapping reservation and increase the cancellation fee, it won't change a thing.

I think out of state people usually keep their bookings given the distance traveled. We'd need real data from the state to make this conclusion.

Yep, none of these core issues were addressed.

Bill, thanks for taking the time to articulate your ideas here. The reselling issue will happen somehow even though illegal. There is too much difference between the subsidized price and what an out-of-state camper would be willing to pay to keep people who don't care about the law from trying to make money. You idea for a much higher penalty for cancellations is necessary with the bill's changes or all this will do is keep away non-residents while continuing the same booking issues for residents. I don't see this as a win for residents without some form of your suggestion being enacted. What we haven't talked about is the 11-month window. Why such a long time out? Most states are about 6 months. Most people don't know what they want to do that far in advance, so the 11 months may be incentivizing people to book and holding multiple reservation - seeing the minimal cancellation fee as an option price. I think out-of-state folks are being the scapegoat and it really is a planner vs non-planner issue. 11 months out favors planners and people with resources who will book than cancel. Thanks again for taking the time to think through the issue and articulate several ideas. Please subscribe if you haven't already!

@@JohnMarucci I'm not sure changing the reservation to 6 months would make much of a difference in the ability to get a reservation. My sister lives in Michigan where there is a 6 month window and she has the same issues of having to be logged on with multiple computers and ready to hit the Send button at exactly the right time to get a reservation. If anything the 11 month window gives me a slightly better chance of getting a reservation since it screens out those who can't or don't plan ahead.

That is a good idea. How about take 50% of sites for residents at the booking window and save more for first come/first serve. This nuclear option will eliminate future revenue from sticky customers. I also have no idea why 11 months vs. 6 months most other state have - greatly favors planners, especially snowbirds.

@@JohnMarucci I think the biggest thing that aggravates me is empty sites that were booked!! I get it the state has the money. They could care less if anyone ever shows up . I only camp at state or National or COE parks myself! I’ve never ever been in a RV park! I tent camped for 60 years . I finally bought a Casita two years ago ! Was a weird transition for me camping! Thanks again for your great information Videos John .👍

Dan, I think you are the real winner here. Without changing the 11 month window, the long-term Floridian planners win. I'd be very curious to hear about your experience with the system once the law goes into effect. Also, not sure exactly how they are going to validate your residency online. Feel free to email me with how it goes when you get there: john@johnmarucci.com

We will see. I'm pretty sure cancelation rates are higher from locals.

@@JohnMarucci But their cancellations won’t be happening between 10 months and 11 months out though, which is really what we are discussing. Whether we book early or later than you won’t change that