National Park & Federal Land Passes Explained [Changes for 2023]

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@TheOldSailorGMC
@TheOldSailorGMC Жыл бұрын
As a retired NPS fee manager this is one of the best explanations of park passes I've seen. GREAT JOB!!!!
@RVMiles
@RVMiles Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@davenstorm7271
@davenstorm7271 Жыл бұрын
​@RV Miles Sir would a senior pass work the same at state parks ?
@Department_of_Justice
@Department_of_Justice Жыл бұрын
If only there were a list. I'm going to Tahoe and one area says it's managed by Forest Service Lake Tahoe Basin Mgt Unit.. Inspiration Point etc. I can't figure out if it applies or not.
@davenstorm7271
@davenstorm7271 Жыл бұрын
@Military Industrial Complex Looking 4 Next War Yes any national forest a senior pass will apply to or a army core of engineers will also . You get 50% off
@davenstorm7271
@davenstorm7271 Жыл бұрын
@Military Industrial Complex Looking 4 Next War I have the book on all of army core of engineers campground, I can check that Tahoe area for you if you like , but if it's national forest ran or a national park then yep 50% off .
@talldude5841
@talldude5841 Жыл бұрын
I purchased the senior pass for my entire lifetime when I was 62. I cannot tell you how much I have saved over the years. Way into the thousands I believe. What a deal.
@MrA1582000
@MrA1582000 Жыл бұрын
Been using my pass for 16 years….mucho money saved.
@suew4609
@suew4609 11 ай бұрын
Yes! I'm so glad I found this video, as I was having trouble understanding our government's website. They like to confuse us!
@thecraftyvoyager1232
@thecraftyvoyager1232 Жыл бұрын
I’m happy you mentioned about parks run by a concession. I worked in a national forest last summer and people would get so mad at me when I said the pass didn’t work there. I’d even explain why and point out that it’s mentioned on the back of the pass. Theyd still get mad
@hollyreilly4818
@hollyreilly4818 Жыл бұрын
Our senior pass gets us into the big parks. But, it also gets us into the small local federal parks. We can take a walk around Lynx Lake (20 mi away). Or, stroll around the south rim of the Grand Canyon (60 mi away). We do these things often. So, we have saved alot of $$. Thanks for the in-depth info. You do a stellar job of explaining it all.
@RiverWoods111
@RiverWoods111 Жыл бұрын
I have heard other channels cover this topic and never mention the access pass. Thank you for covering that, as I am autistic, and it is a permanent disability. I have both a letter from my doctor and SS letter. I also appreciate that you went into the fact that it wasn't just mobility disability. Although I have that too, my letters are for autism. I am going full-time next year and having a lifetime pass will be a super savings for me.
@RVMiles
@RVMiles Жыл бұрын
So glad to be of help!
@altha-rf1et
@altha-rf1et Жыл бұрын
I have Parkinson I think it is 3 or 4 people can go with you free with you. I was in St. Augstine, I got me a free pass to go to the fort, my wife and neice and nephew got to go free
@RiverWoods111
@RiverWoods111 Жыл бұрын
@@altha-rf1et That is so interesting!
@beckymeyer5199
@beckymeyer5199 Жыл бұрын
You can also walk into some Forest Service offices and get your pass; call ahead to see if that service is offered. I walked in, announced I was 62, and was met with grins and a form to fill out to get my senior pass. They could give me the pass immediately. Believe me, it paid for itself in the first month.
@thomastuorto9929
@thomastuorto9929 Жыл бұрын
Me too! Unfortunately, the NRA that is 8 miles from my home charges $100 for parking from Memorial Day weekend to Labor Day weekend. Night time fishing permit is $50. There are areas where you can park for free but usually have no benefit for the areas I visit. I'm glad it is there for me to use & hope to hit some of the larger more famous NP's in 2023 & beyond.
@normgibson6565
@normgibson6565 Жыл бұрын
I bought my senior pass at a Forest Service office back when it only cost $10.00 it payed for it's self the first time I used it.
@0HARE
@0HARE Жыл бұрын
I got my Lifetime Senior Pass when I was 62, six years ago, at Big Bend N.P. Best $10 I ever spent. The price has gone up to $80 for that same pass now. Still a bargain. Thanks, Jason, for a great explanation of all these passes. It is super helpful. Happy Camping.
@trnrbrnr
@trnrbrnr Жыл бұрын
We call it the "Golden Geezer Pass". Guard it with your life!
@altha-rf1et
@altha-rf1et Жыл бұрын
even though I did get mine for free I did donate money for the forest each time I go in It is a good cause
@pau1h0ffman
@pau1h0ffman Жыл бұрын
I helped create the America the Beautiful Pass (all federal agencies) in the early 2000s, and I led the effort to merge all federal online recreation reservation systems into one-Recreation.gov. A couple of efforts that I am proud to say “better serve the American people.”
@RVMiles
@RVMiles Жыл бұрын
Congratulations! Truly a great accomplishment.
@edcook9747
@edcook9747 8 ай бұрын
Bought the golden age (senior pass now) when I turned 62, for $20. Bought it at Cabrillo National Monument in San Diego. In those days it was only available for a year. I turned 62 very close to when the window closed!! Drove down to san Diego (90 miles) specifically to get it. Whew! I am now 80. Best purchase I ever made! Entrance fees keep going up so its value keeps going up.
@susanpremo8068
@susanpremo8068 Жыл бұрын
Used our senior pass a lot! It's a nice discount, good information Jason. 👍
@ozlozano9470
@ozlozano9470 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for your help. I’m so happy you are able to do this. I’m sure it will work on my next visit when I retire.
@grob25
@grob25 Жыл бұрын
I am retired military. I never minded paying for the annual pass. It helps support the parks? (I tell myself that my $80.00 made the difference. LOL) I always encouraged the current service members to take the pass and go see this beautiful country we have the honor of serving. I now cherish my pass more than if I paid for it. What an honor. I love our national parks. I live in Washington state, we have several parks here.
@davidtotten618
@davidtotten618 Жыл бұрын
I have an old farts card and my wife has a access card. She unfortunately has more than one qualifying conditions, but we just used a note from her ENT doctor stating severe hearing loss and five minutes later walked out with a card. We got ours at the park headquarters at south rim. One other benefit of the access pass is that when you make reservations for a handicap camp site if you put in the card number in the site, it pre verifies that you are eligible for that site. Not a big deal but one last thing todo a checking.
@KRich408
@KRich408 Жыл бұрын
When we tried getting our passes online we waited forever , I cancelled it and went to a federal Rangers station we walked out that day with our passes. And avoided the $10 service fee. If you have several weeks/months to wait online it is a good option . We were leaving on a trip and couldn't wait for them to ship it.
@Donavery1
@Donavery1 Жыл бұрын
You might want to mention that some parks (Yosemite, Glacier) are now charging a $2 Peak Hour Reservation Fee that you have to purchase in advance. You can't purchase this at the entrance.
@rimaskalesnykas7759
@rimaskalesnykas7759 Жыл бұрын
Very informative and comprehensively so. Thank you! 😃
@joycecaudell6047
@joycecaudell6047 Жыл бұрын
That was very helpful information given in a very calm and organized way. Thanks!
@SMButler
@SMButler Жыл бұрын
Glad my wife and I each got the Senior when it was $10 for lifetime. If we are in a large group we can split up and get a couple cars in!
@terridee9637
@terridee9637 Жыл бұрын
Me tooooo
@anthonypaulmannion7354
@anthonypaulmannion7354 Жыл бұрын
That was a very good summary of a complicated system! Thanks for the video.
@randimerrington6842
@randimerrington6842 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great information, definitely helps make sense of the variety of passes and what they do and don't cover.
@randys3010
@randys3010 Жыл бұрын
I doubt there is a better explanation of this topic anywhere. Really well done.
@thetommygexperience5038
@thetommygexperience5038 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I needed this.
@samwise7104
@samwise7104 Ай бұрын
I applied for the All Access pass today thx to my permanent hearing loss in my left ear. All I needed was a note from my audiologist and $10 for the online processing fee! Easily one of the best purchases I've made!! Thx for the great video!
@RVMiles
@RVMiles Ай бұрын
Excellent!
@RustyOutdoors101
@RustyOutdoors101 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this information.
@TonyBlackwell-by2lk
@TonyBlackwell-by2lk Жыл бұрын
Great job!!! I understood everything. Well Done.
@yooperdog
@yooperdog Жыл бұрын
👋 from the Yoop We got the Senior pass, no more buying passes for us. Saved us big bucks. You need to be U.S. citizen or permanent resident on the senior pass. ( wife is Canadian and not U.S. citizen pass is hers) Wish they would do this for fishing license.
@bobs4103
@bobs4103 Жыл бұрын
Very thorough explanation! I do beg to differ a bit on some state parks. We were told and have successfully used our National Park Pass/Interagency Pass for State park entry fees. As I understand it, if the State park accepts federal funding they are obliged to accept the National Park Pass for entry fees. Some state parks charge an entry fee per person, so one NPP may only cover the entry fee for one person. Speaking from experience, we have used our NPP in Utah and Arizona at parks like Dead Horse State Park and Tonto Natural Bridge State Park. Thanks again for the excellent video.
@lindagrant3232
@lindagrant3232 Жыл бұрын
When I sell the sr/access pass, I always tell people it doesn't hurt to ask at non federal places if they will accept it!
@kimyeecarroll01
@kimyeecarroll01 Жыл бұрын
Excellent breakdown of the passes, thank you!
@billsmith3250
@billsmith3250 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic info and presentation. I'm sharing.
@ABirdWoman
@ABirdWoman Жыл бұрын
THanks for this comprehensive overview of all the available passes!!
@kevinhuang3895
@kevinhuang3895 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!!!!
@RVMiles
@RVMiles 11 ай бұрын
You're welcome!
@sherriweber7105
@sherriweber7105 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Jason for this information on the park passes and the way to use them if you lose your pass. This helps. My mom had a lifetime pass from a park in Michigan and we were able to use it for here. Which so nice. I think we might have to get a new one though since my mom passed away. Thank you again Jason. Have a great weekend. See you soon!
@caniacstevehenderson7115
@caniacstevehenderson7115 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing the information
@DianaWilson
@DianaWilson Жыл бұрын
Very comprehensive guide. Thank you so much. There is definitely a lot to consider there.
@RVMiles
@RVMiles Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@lilydonovan6792
@lilydonovan6792 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for all in great information!!!
@RVMiles
@RVMiles 6 ай бұрын
You are so welcome!
@sallyfisher7911
@sallyfisher7911 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful information. I volunteer at a national wildlife refuge and so many people have no idea about the types of passes.
@cvx2dog549
@cvx2dog549 Жыл бұрын
Lots of good information we weren’t aware of, thanks!
@RVMiles
@RVMiles Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@syedjavedahmad9719
@syedjavedahmad9719 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot learned a lot from you. Very detailed oriented Information. ❤
@carolynknisely2383
@carolynknisely2383 Жыл бұрын
That was excellent. Thank you!!!
@mikewoods6474
@mikewoods6474 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great information.
@RVMiles
@RVMiles Жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@_pnjtravels
@_pnjtravels Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing this. We had no idea about the Access pass which we will be applying for very soon. We continue to be big fans of your content and enjoy that we have so much in common with you and Abby. Hope to someday run into you on the road. Until then, keep up the amazing work.
@RVMiles
@RVMiles Жыл бұрын
So glad to point you that direction!
@Wklambert
@Wklambert Жыл бұрын
Very thorough, thank you! I've been encouraging my son, stationed overseas, to take advantage of this opportunity while he's still young, lol. We have our passes, and really enjoy the discounts on camping. 😁
@stanburman9978
@stanburman9978 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video with great information. Thank you. I am retired from NPS and know how complicated it can get. You have presented the pass info in as digestible a form as I have ever seen.
@quil10it
@quil10it Жыл бұрын
So thorough thank you.
@SMP-RN
@SMP-RN Жыл бұрын
Great explanation. Thank you.
@willgraves5288
@willgraves5288 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jason! A clear and concise explanation, as always. Just a year to go before I qualify for the Senior Pass.
@JDBoggs-py7mp
@JDBoggs-py7mp Жыл бұрын
Great info. Thanks
@RVMiles
@RVMiles Жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@bretbowlin2617
@bretbowlin2617 Жыл бұрын
Great content and great timing! Thank you!
@RVMiles
@RVMiles Жыл бұрын
You're so welcome!
@bigfokkerdog
@bigfokkerdog Жыл бұрын
Veteran pass works great. I can also verify that they have the new passes at the gates, or at least at Lake Mead NRA. Ranger had all of the new issue passes ready for sale or issue.
@altha-rf1et
@altha-rf1et Жыл бұрын
You guys and gals deserve the free past So what is the water level like at Lake Mead n
@ams30gts
@ams30gts Жыл бұрын
Once you have your pass, do you also have to show proof when you enter a park? Or will just your drivers license (doesn't have Veteran designation on it) work?
@bigfokkerdog
@bigfokkerdog Жыл бұрын
@@ams30gts You have to have your Pass with you and show ID. Your license does not need to show Veteran designation, but the name does have to match with the signature on the pass
@ams30gts
@ams30gts Жыл бұрын
@@bigfokkerdog perfect thanks
@bigfokkerdog
@bigfokkerdog Жыл бұрын
@@ams30gts You know, if you have no VA identification, it is pretty simple to get it put on your license at you local DMV, Just take your license and DD214 in and they should update your license for no cost to have the V designator put on.
@Maggie-Gardener-Maker
@Maggie-Gardener-Maker Жыл бұрын
WOW that was great information! I got my lifetime Senior Pass back when it was still only $10 and I got it at a park in person.
@tinawiththelakeexchange2093
@tinawiththelakeexchange2093 Жыл бұрын
Clear explanation, as always, thanks Jason!
@perrymahnke886
@perrymahnke886 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video with very useful information also thank you for taking the time & sharing.
@RVMiles
@RVMiles Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@mikemanjo2458
@mikemanjo2458 Жыл бұрын
Good explanation! Thanks!
@jamesr208
@jamesr208 Жыл бұрын
Excellent info. And loving the “moment of zen” at the end of the vids.
@Herk988
@Herk988 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, appreciate the information.
@RVMiles
@RVMiles Жыл бұрын
You bet!
@toshibavoodoo
@toshibavoodoo Жыл бұрын
Good info
@juliebolduc802
@juliebolduc802 Жыл бұрын
Very informative! I didn’t realize the National parks offed the lifetime passes for persons with a disability. I will definitely apply for both my hubby and I. He already has lifetime to any Florida state parks.
@Hiker_who_Sews
@Hiker_who_Sews Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I didn't know about the window sticker.
@quicksoncamping2039
@quicksoncamping2039 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, right after I saw it I applied for the Military Lifetime Pass and got it days later. Thank you so much for the details.
@RVMiles
@RVMiles Жыл бұрын
You’re so welcome! Thank you for your service.
@edwardrhoads7283
@edwardrhoads7283 Жыл бұрын
Wow, this video just saved me $80 as I just happen to have a 4th grader and we were going to buy a pass to do a national park tour this summer.
@RVMiles
@RVMiles Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Have a really great summer adventure.
@donwilson1061
@donwilson1061 Жыл бұрын
Excellent!! Thank you!!
@RVMiles
@RVMiles Жыл бұрын
Very welcome.
@dougwelch8890
@dougwelch8890 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jason. I have the senior lifetime pass. Best $20 I ever spent. I bought mine at a Forest Service ranger office.
@smokingjc5327
@smokingjc5327 Жыл бұрын
Great information 👍
@traveldreamer4616
@traveldreamer4616 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information and clarifications. I am going to apply for the access pass.
@RVMiles
@RVMiles Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@zygmuntziokowski7877
@zygmuntziokowski7877 Жыл бұрын
Good Information! Thanks!
@RVMiles
@RVMiles Жыл бұрын
Very welcome!
@davenehilla9610
@davenehilla9610 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Nicely done!
@KL00100
@KL00100 Жыл бұрын
Everything gets more complicated. Thank you for educating us.
@SmokyMountainBlessed
@SmokyMountainBlessed Жыл бұрын
thanks for the info
@RVMiles
@RVMiles Жыл бұрын
You bet!
@mnmn926
@mnmn926 Жыл бұрын
Excellent breakdown
@mjones7794
@mjones7794 Жыл бұрын
Great summation. This should get a million+ views before too long. It took me forever to figure all this out on my own.
@manie9689
@manie9689 Жыл бұрын
Thank You sir. Very good 👍
@RVMiles
@RVMiles Жыл бұрын
Most welcome
@ayalaraquel2371
@ayalaraquel2371 11 ай бұрын
Great! Also Muir woods need a parking lot reservation and fee! Also you can buy the Annual Pass NP in The store REI❤❤
@lja1229
@lja1229 Жыл бұрын
My Son has the 4th grade pass. And where I live (just a few miles south of the Grand Canyon) with that pass we are able to get a Christmas Tree cutting permit for the Kaibab NF. Great deal.
@mtower235
@mtower235 Жыл бұрын
This was very informative
@SpykersB
@SpykersB Жыл бұрын
Your gov should link your vid to their site, it’s very good overall explanation of these passes. 🍻
@forrestcommander6283
@forrestcommander6283 Жыл бұрын
I got the Access Pass when I showed them my VHIC, because it says “service-connected.” They didn’t care about my VA rating, just that my card says that.
@pfcrow
@pfcrow Жыл бұрын
We purchased our America the Beautiful pass last year at REI. I think they charge $79.99, and it meant having it with us before we showed up, but we made a point of buying it the same month as when we left. You should have explained how they mark the month that you bought the pass, and that it lasts through the end of that month the next year, so it's actually a 13-month pass.
@nn3514
@nn3514 Жыл бұрын
They didnt mark mine. How do they? I am keeping my receipt with it for proof of purchase.
@pfcrow
@pfcrow Жыл бұрын
@@nn3514 They punched a hole in it marking the month of purchase. If they forgot to mark it, do keep the receipt.
@bah5310
@bah5310 Жыл бұрын
Alcatraz is not covered by the pass and I think the statue of liberty. We've used our passes many times.
@bnewland1958
@bnewland1958 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I just let my son know he has a Veteran life time pass waiting for him!
@FotoMatt
@FotoMatt Жыл бұрын
Great video! The USGS should post your video on their homepage! Maybe they can barter for a lifetime pass?
@kyliem5812
@kyliem5812 Жыл бұрын
i bought my first annual pass last February at the Pinnacles NP entrance station, super easy and fast, she took my card, punched the month, and gave me the card! super glad to hear that 80% of my money stayed there, I'm gonna get a new one next February there for sure!
@ericburton5163
@ericburton5163 Жыл бұрын
Just a wording tip for anyone reading. Sometimes when people including RV Miles (and the source he got it from) use the term citizen in the United States this includes people who are permanent residents but not officially citizens. You can definitely get the other passes as a permanent resident even if you aren't a citizen (sometimes people assume this, but sometimes they don't so figured it wouldn't hurt to mention this.)
@brianroth7852
@brianroth7852 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jason,. Forwarding this video to my daughters since one has lopis and the other fibromyalgia. Safe travels and roads Brian and Cindy"xtreambydesign with passion"
@RVMiles
@RVMiles Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@hookeye2
@hookeye2 Жыл бұрын
The concessioners are now using public property as private property, only open when they can make money, defect private property, closed otherwise preventing the public from using public property. All federal agencies are covered by the basic law, "All federal agencies shall act in manner for the benefit of the American people." This "reservation" system is unfair and absolutely wrong. Only those who can plan sixth months in advance can camp. Wage workers and the like cannot make those. Hence, some people make multiple reservations, then cancel later, usually at the last minute . Thus, it prevents others from camping. It is public land not private. It's just more of the gradual privatization of the public lands...
@crazychick
@crazychick Жыл бұрын
I'm disabled I've had my pass for 5 years. I'm very appreciative of being able to get it even if I'm in my 40s
@gailgurnee8562
@gailgurnee8562 Жыл бұрын
Regarding my $10 Senior Pass, would you put your ($80) pass on your dashboard, lock your vehicle and then leave it? I’ve had my vehicle broken into for much less!
@RVMiles
@RVMiles Жыл бұрын
No real option at some places. You're required to leave it visible at certain stops.
@ord2mia
@ord2mia Жыл бұрын
Exceptional channel
@larryfromwisconsin9970
@larryfromwisconsin9970 Жыл бұрын
Five years or so ago just before the price of the Golden pass increased I ordered it online with the website saying it could take up to 12 weeks to arrive but it never came. I guess I just need to buy the Senior pass again.
@lindagrant3232
@lindagrant3232 Жыл бұрын
If you buy a park specific pass and then decide to see other parks, you can do an upgrade. They will TAKE that pass and you would pay the difference between it and $80. The new pass would be punched for the same month as the old pass. Also, states often have passes for state parks for disability or for vets, maybe seniors.
@patrickholmes1044
@patrickholmes1044 Жыл бұрын
Great information as always! If you bike into a park do you have to wait in line with the cars?
@SpykersB
@SpykersB Жыл бұрын
….and how would they even know if you have a pass or don’t, if you’re walking in or like you said biking in? (Haven’t been to your parks yet) 🍻
@RVMiles
@RVMiles Жыл бұрын
I suppose you would, though sometimes there is a walk-in gate that you could just walk your bike through.
@spudbono5747
@spudbono5747 Жыл бұрын
For veterans with no 'ID card', you can use your dd214. I've done this twice, once at the entrance of a national park and most recently at a random ranger station in Colorado.
@aurora571000
@aurora571000 Жыл бұрын
Does veteran mean you did 20 years? One of my sons did his 4 years, one lasted just shy of 1 year (it was not a dishonorable, but besides breaking his leg they weren’t real happy with him). My son in law did 4 years +reserves.
@christinacope562
@christinacope562 Жыл бұрын
@@aurora571000 I believe that the Veteran pass is good for any length of service not just those who have had a career and full retirement. We're just now checking it out to use next year. I hope that I helped answer your question.
@ams30gts
@ams30gts Жыл бұрын
@@aurora571000 Veteran doesn't really have any specific date on it. As long as your son has a General or Honorable Discharge they can apply for the card.
@aurora571000
@aurora571000 Жыл бұрын
@@ams30gts Thank you!
@turnbullstravels735
@turnbullstravels735 Жыл бұрын
The senior lifetime pass is the best deal going, especially for rvers. Half price campgrounds are a huge part of how we can stay on budget.
@MOSHTUBE1
@MOSHTUBE1 Жыл бұрын
Great informative video. So how many passes do have in order to get into the national forest and so on? Thanks.
@RVMiles
@RVMiles Жыл бұрын
You just need one!
@davidpatrick1813
@davidpatrick1813 Жыл бұрын
Complicated but very helpful.
@altha-rf1et
@altha-rf1et Жыл бұрын
I'm disable due to Parkinsons, I got a free Park pass and use it,, Do not get to walk the trails like I use to. I just like going to the panic area and sit out side some
@shumandaniele
@shumandaniele Жыл бұрын
Love the outros.
@ddawe31635
@ddawe31635 Жыл бұрын
When purchasing the Military pass, you must put the exact name as it appears on your document, ie in my case Dr. License. It will put your middle name in front of your last name. Kinda not exactly as my name is...I tried to purchase it. We will see what happens
@Skidaho1
@Skidaho1 Жыл бұрын
Good video!
@KRich408
@KRich408 Жыл бұрын
Not all NPs let you in for free with the passes, the parks they outsource the management can refuse the passes. In the black hills for example Mt Rushmore you have to pay $10 to park the pass doesn't work for parking. You can't get in free unless you get a ride to drop you off and pick you up later. Also when I got our passes a car load was 4 people per vehicle on a pass, not a 15 passenger van full of people.
@PatsTravels
@PatsTravels Жыл бұрын
I foresee more parks following this model and it is frustrating to see. I understand why they do it; however, it defeats the intent of the pass
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