"I would rather die with a little bit of dignity than let John Favreau and Dave Filoni piss down my fuckin throat to keep me alive" Best quote on this show by far

Call it an unpopular opinion but Star Grift is a big step up in quality from any other podcast Theory has done in the past. It is great to include different opinions from all corners of the fanbase. Theory's optimistic nature complements the more nihilistic and chaotic Ryan takes, and Mauler ties it all together. Love to see the progress, Theory, and it's noticeable, especially getting to meet Hayden. Keep it up!

I am absolutely with Ryan here: you didn't want the Expanded Universe. Don't bastardize the EU to play on people's nostalgia.

Timestamps 0:57 - The Bad Batch (1) 3:00 - Netflix film: Damsel 4:23 - TBB (2) 9:32 - Jon Favreau / Dave Filoni (1) / Mando S3 17:59 - Deborah Chow / Mando S1 / % chances of the Mando movie being good 21:32 - Ahsoka S2 / Filoni (2) 24:10 - The World Between Worlds (1) / Tales of the Jedi 27:18 - Filoni's work in Rebels 28:58 - The WBW (2) / Why didn't Anakin reach out to Luke? / Rey's Force download ability 34:43 - Disagreeing with George's decisions 36:31 - George's idea of the Force / Sabine's Force potential 39:18 - Han shot first 41:13 - Madame Web (1) 45:46 - Suicide Squad: KtJL / MauLer's Chris Stuckmann impression 48:41 - A Song of ice and Fire 51:37 - Delta Squad / Predictions for TBB 53:47 - How Theory stays optimistic 57:04 - Stormtrooper zombies / Savage Opress / Nightsister magic 1:01:55 - How MauLer could've written Morgan / Barriss Offee (1) / Bringing back dead characters 1:05:40 - A pointy stick > Actual lightsaber 1:08:35 - ESB or RotS? / The best pay off in all of SW 1:12:45 - "Why tell stories around the Skywalker saga?" / Darth Zannah / Jaina Solo 1:14:35 - Watch parties 1:17:21 - Mace Windu coming back 1:19:40 - [!!!] Vader Ep 2 1:21:37 - Meeting up / Expressing honest opinions 1:28:30 - Which show do you like more: Mando or Ahsoka? / Anakin's lightsaber / Key jangling 1:30:31 - Star Wars: Resistance 1:32:45 - "Hoping Sabine Force powers disappear" / "Why didn't the New Republic investigate Vader's fortress?" / Eye of the Webbish Bog 1:35:47 - SW book recommendations / Jedi Apprentice books / Xanatos 1:39:24 - The origin of the Skyscanner guy meme / Sabine's Force training 1:41:11 - X-Men '97 1:43:40 - "Which IP are you most passionate for?" / The sad state of new material from beloved IPs 1:47:34 - "Which character(s) would you want to see returned?" 1:49:45 - Count Dooku in the EU / Dark Rendezvous / Recasting actors 1:53:55 - "Fav prequel villain?" / How the prequel villains reflected Anakin's journey to the Dark Side 1:56:47 - What's the deal with Omega? / Jango Fett / Madame Web (2) / Chris Stuckmann 2:00:41 - Ryan n MauLer just h8 stuf / Darth Maul in Solo / Emilia Clarke 2:02:30 - G'iah is all of the heroes / Helldivers 2:04:43 - "Would Savage replacing Maul still be bad?" 2:06:37 - "Ahsoka S1 would've been better animated" / How Thrawn was handled in Ahsoka S1 2:09:58 - Filoni's tweet 2:11:20 - Barriss Offee (2) 2:13:12 - "Thoughts on Mace Windu coming back?" / Who wins: Dooku vs Mace & Maul vs Dooku / Mace Windu's lightsaber combat style 2:18:25 - Shortman bad / SW headcanons 2:22:30 - "Theory on Gartic Phone when?" / Mission Impossible 2:27:50 - "New SW TV series should be non-Jedi & Sith focused" / What the Mando series should've been 2:31:00 - "Are the New Jedi Order books worth reading?" / Which is worse: TLJ or TRoS? 2:33:57 - "Filoni quit Resistance after 1 ep" / Rebels (1) 2:36:58 - MauLer is taking over! / Ryan's thoughts on Yoda's arc in TCW S6 2:39:46 - ViceTV's documentary / The Pong Krell arc / Diving into the Old Republic era or the origins of the Jedi & Sith? 2:41:45 - TCW has set a bad precedent? 2:44:45 - TBB (3) / Buffy & Angel watch order 2:46:52 - "How to get into Legends and how to progress?" 2:48:00 - Bounty Hunter (PS2) / Din Djarin's origin story 2:50:31 - "Will Ventress die in TBB?" 2:52:30 - Katie Lucas / Would you rather: Have George Lucas work on Vader Ep 2 or Fire everyone bad at Lucasfilm? 2:53:55 - The Drax arm 2:57:15 - "Would love to see an era of SW where Force users have children" / "Fav trooper design?" / "Fav Legends villain?" / Jerec / KOTOR Live action by: Jon & Filoni or Edwards & Gilroy? 2:59:32 - Hera confronting her father scene / Hera's portrayal in Ahsoka S1 / Would you rather be: A Saiyan or A Jedi? 3:01:45 - Darth Plagueis 3:03:13 - "Should the GoT writers be given another chance?" / Filoni screwing up Thrawn 3:05:46 - AT-AT Chat is a massive / Gal Gadot as a Leia recast? / The perspectives of canon (1) 3:07:42 - Ricky Gervais as Benji / "Fav James Bond actor?" 3:14:32 - The perspectives of canon (2) / Masters of the Air / "Should Old Republic and Legends writers take over?" 3:16:57 - "What EU story should be the next trilogy and who to direct and write?" 3:19:15 - Cameron Monaghan / "Thoughts on the notion that Marcia Lucas 'saved' SW?" 3:21:33 - The Revan book / "Which one SW game to play for the rest of your life?" 3:22:36 - [!!!] Theory Sabers Updates (1) 3:23:12 - An ideal recast of the prequels 3:25:55 - Rebels (2) 3:27:24 - "What is the most offensive sci-fi movie?" / "Thoughts on Pedro as Reed Richards?" 3:30:04 - "One EU book to be adapted into a movie?" / [SPOILER] Chewie in the New Jedi Order books / Yaddle 3:34:57 - 1992 Space Movie / "Thoughts on Syril?" 3:37:38 - The reason why the 'L' in MauLer's name is in caps / Comic coverages 3:42:15 - [!!!] Theory Sabers Updates (2) 3:43:26 - "What is the highest limit to the extent of Force powers?" *@ 3:45:00 play ( kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o72fZtqgzp-5oqM.html ) as background music for the best experience 3:48:57 - "How do you embrace nerd culture so well?" / Megadeth or Metallica? / "Which TBB character would you kill off?" 3:51:14 - "Why didn't Yoda push Obi-Wan and Anakin away from the pillar?" 3:53:02 - Closing

Best dynamic. The banter between the three of you works so well.

The hopeful one, the disgruntled lore master and the realist. I love this dynamic from the Star grift!

I grew up with 03 and 08 Clone Wars and was too young to read the EU so I'm partial towards Ahsoka and Filoni's creations. Literally nothing Ryan has said is remotely insulting here. 08 CW was super hostile to the EU. Thats just a fact. It's mostly a generational divide based on which you grew up with

As someone who thoroughly loves tcw during my childhood, I appreciate Ryan taking it apart because it's better than just nostalgia crap. I rather think about what can make it better than clutch my pearls at every opinion different from mine. If Ryan said something that I feel isn't reasoned well, I would refute that point instead of whining about him and Mauler in general.

Oh boy! Another comfy SW stream! *10 minutes in* "I'D RATHER DIE THAN GET PISSED ON BY JOHN FAVREU!"

Dude, Ryans spot on with the Mara comment. Why the hell would you want Disney to bastardize a character that was represented who's story was told in a great way... Have Disney say hey, that's not how it happened (not canon) then take that character that people love and twist and contort it in a way that is a caricature of what it once was??? Insane how Theory is trying to justify it. No, its not like you are in a desert and need water. Well... Maybe then if you found out a minute later that the water was poison... Not worth it man.

Lmao Ryan cracks me up and I actually agree with him personally. He’s a good addition to this! 😂

Luke trained with freaking YODA on dagobah, he ended up standing on one hand, doing a front flip and levitating a rock. Sabine trained a little bit with Ahsoka and could suddenly throw a person 200 yards.

Yeah, I hate what they did to Thrawn in the Ahsoka show, he's no longer the masterful strategist and military genius that he was know for in EU, Disney made him into a con man who spins his defeats into victories and wasn't able to take Ezra out for a decade is just beyond me. He became an idiot for no reason.

Ten years ago: "Man that Force Awakens trailer looks awesome." Today: "Are you comparing Disney Star Wars to getting peed on? Positively?!"

I absolutely love this podcast. Theory is the Light hopeful side. Ryan is the dark side. Mauler is just in the middle not knowing what’s going on 😂 Way better than the podcast with Den of Nerds

The grift that keeps on grifting.

It’s crazy how many people can’t handle different opinions. I’m here for mauler and Ryan but that doesn’t mean i agree with them on everything.

I think the problem with Thrawn, is that he is supposed to be a super genius, but any character can only be as smart as its writer. And the current crop of writers... are part of the participation trophy generation.

This has easily become my favorite weekly podcasts. I never thought I could laugh so hard at the demise of my favorite IP.

Ahahaha! Theory was fine with the description of Bad Batch from Mauler until Ryan added in his take and he shook his head like, “Dammit… That’s accurate…”. 🤣

I love Ryan and Mauler with Theory best thing to happen to the channel

Ryan multitasking and smirking like a champ

"No one is ever really gone" killed me lol.

Love hearing all of you guys different opinions on Star Wars.

*slams own head on desk* Mauler, ya killin me here.. how can i draw memes under these shortman conditions? ^.-.^

8:30 - 10:10 RYAN SPITTING HARD FACTS, Also MauLer’s assessment is kinda eye-opening, Disney Star Wars has become comparable to drinking piss in an attempt to survive the Sahara. 2:58:43 Ryan’s reaction to a Dave/Jon KOTOR 😭 3:02:21 Ryan’s prediction for Acolyte Yoda 😭😭😭

Ryan saying as Yoda "you must respect their pronouns" made me laugh out loud so hard. Thank you guys. 🤣

Timestamps will be up much later. Classes have started for me :U

I love TCW, parts of Rebels, and a lot of Filoni's animation work, but I still love listening to Ryan criticize Filoni and the Clone Wars, it is refreshing to hear a different opinion, but i don't allow it to take away from my enjoyment of it, MTFBWY Theory, Ryan, and Mauler!!!

Please don’t ask mauler to release weekly.. don’t make him put out low quality sh*t because he does it weekly. Quality over quantity any day. I’m glad he doesn’t have tik tok brain… Also, can you guys maybe talk about Jedi philosophy?.. I feel like that is a huge dividing line for people that like Star Wars. Like it’s the reason why OT people get mad at the prequels and why people disagree about the motivations of Luke. They get so emotional about it because they infuse their real life philosophy with Jedi philosophy.. I saw somebody absolutely reject yoda from the prequels because in the OT he said only use the force in defense, never attack. He said yoda was not defending obi and ani from dooku in AOTC. Idk man.. that seems stupid to not accept yoda fighting off dooku AS a defense. Attack can be a defense.. if he killed palps that would be a Defense in my mind too.

Love the passive aggressive energy this is how talking with the boys is like sometimes

That Mariana person needs to get out of her safe space. People have opinions and she's going to have to deal with it

I dont get a lot of time to listen to pod casts etc. But this is such an easy pod cast to listen to. I love the varied opinions and the flow of chat. Honestly top quality guys. Please keep it up

JJ is the cinematic antichrist. After the apocalypse (assuming anything still exists at that time), I expect movie ratings will include "warning: graphic depictions of mystery boxes, viewer discretion is advised" where necessary.

If you can't handle someone criticizing something you like then get off the internet for your own mental health.

I'm with Mauler. Syril Karn is a fantastic character in Andor. He's the hero in his own story yet in reality he's just another cog in the machine. A nobody trying to make a difference. That, honestly, is more endearing than your typical 'hero' nowadays. He's almost like Luke Skywalker when he was a whiny brat, still stuck working for his uncle on that moisture farm.

you should have called this video „Ryan being the G.O.A.T. for 2 hours“

46:15 I love when Mauler Gets Stuckmannized

This stream went on about 2 hours too long for Theory 😂 Bro was half asleep and seemed out of it for over an hour at the end!

One of the Major problems that Mandalorian has in the end of season 2 is that they completely punted on the Emotional Moment of "Mandalorian takes his helmet off to say goodbye to Grogu" by having them make a joke about him having to take his helmet off 2 episodes before that. Like it was such a low bar to do that moment correctly and they couldn't manage it without making it into a joke that how can you trust the writers and showrunners to take anything seriously.

Can we watch the spoilers, guys? Please? I had NO IDEA Jumbo Kabob was in Bad Batch S3!

Good dynamic. Theory is very optimistic, positive and hopeful. Ryan is total blackpill doomer and checked out. Mauler is the unbiased observer that knows the 6 Star Wars movies and nothing much else.

10:03 Ryan on point.

I hated that James Bond died in the last movie. That left a stain on Craig's entire run for me. Bond is one of those characters who isn't *supposed* to die (ever, even heroically). He's a power-fantasy character. He's supposed win, and win in style, no matter the odds. He's similar to Batman. People get a buzz from seeing how awesome he is.

Whi rver calls this an exho chamber didnt watch this show. I kove how you guys disagree and agree on things. Its not just 100% agree on everything.

Love this series fellas! Watching yall makes me want to finally hop on youtube and join the fun 😂

That chuckle at the end xD

Did Ryan’s forehead grow?

Was an hour late to the stream so now I'm back here immediately to watch the first hour

The Smeagol being a "cute kind of ugly" comment Theory said made me die of laughter

Mauler hating Blade Runner 2049 breaks my heart😭

Did Theory just confirm the Human Centipede plushy????

Theory is just a delusional fan at this point. I don’t understand how he can STILL think it can get better with all the same idiots involved in every project. He eats up the key jangling, he literally admitted he would think it’s awesome if they brought Mara Jade in regardless of quality I’m not even trying to be a dick, like I understand him wanting to stay optimistic but, dude after a decade of this garbage, why would Disney just… stop doing what they’re doing? There’s no point in hoping anymore unless everyone is fired and Lucasfilm is bought out by someone who cares. Or I’d be fine with just, no more Star Wars, you could still do games but just leave it alone at this point

Great stream! Though I must be hallucinating? For a few minutes I could swear I saw Ryan (the EU encyclopedia) show some compassion for a superchat? Must be something I ate. Again, great stream.

1:06:08 I love that Theory has an innocent mind 😂

This is the funniest stream ever. I'm literally laughing out loud in public

Gilroy should have thrawn and not Filoni! He would work so much better in Andor than in Ashoka

If mauler watches bad batch before CW I’m gonna cry. Why does he play with my emotions like this

Don’t change the name, star grift is perfect 😂

Remember when theory promised Mauler/us that these streams wouldn’t be longer than 2 hours? That was Funny

I hope you guys do a deep dive into the old EU. With Disney Wars being such trash, the three of you shooting the shit about the Thrawn trilogy or the New Jedi Order books would be great

I love tcw but there were like three or four times Ahsoka’s incredible story could’ve ended very organically. She could’ve died at Any point in the Clone Wars to drive Anakin further toward the Dark Side, she could’ve died during Order 66, and she could’ve died during her fight with Vader. But Dave just keeps plugging the life support back in, refusing to put his OC to rest smh

My favorite part was baby boy ryan. I webbed all over myself.

34:44 "Is there anything that George said about what is canon in Star Wars or what the intentions of Star Wars are that you've felt, nah, that's not true?" Yeah, I can think of a few. One being that George claimed Obi-Wan was more powerful than Vader when they fought in Episode IV. Doesn't gel with me. Also -- I'm unsure if this was actually said by George or not -- but I've been told that he said in his sequel trilogy Leia would have been revealed to truly be the Chosen One and also that Darth Maul would be shown to have survived. I don't want anyone being the Chosen One other than Anakin (weakens the first six films) and I've never been a fan of Darth Maul having survived, for any reason.

i want some of ryans energy 🔥

The long is taking over.

Theory’s level of optimism is admirable..shit one might say legendary, but feel like disney starwars is just a sisyphus effect.

Han shot first

The Ryan's hair looks insane timeline timestamp -February 19th 2024

Ryan would be an excellent Vegeta

2:58:50 Now THAT'S different opinions lol

I really like dinamic of theory and Mauler. One more analytical but boy do I feel with theory so much - not always able to put my feelings in words

FFS, Theory! So annoying when you mumble through a super chat (which you seem to be doing more). You just drop off the end of the sentence! As my mother would say - read it properly or don't read it at all!

You're the man, Theory! Great stuff, love these podcasts

Theory you need to watch at least one of Maulers videos. It’ll go a long way to understanding who he is and how he views media/content.

maulers stuckmann impression had me dying

46:50 okay I have to know why stuckman is getting called out all over the place now. I haven't listened to him in years, but now drinker twice and here today I keep hearing him being called out 😂

I flipping love this show!

Jaundice Theory MVP

I love it when the three of you have interesting discussions about the Prequels, and how you all think so highly of it. And I love the funny moments as well.

Yes like the dynamic!

I love seeing Theoryies optimism vs Ryans nihimism. But I personally am of the mind that whenever they bring in something from the expanded universe into Disney canon is just desicrates the original source. I dont like it. Make 2 difffernet Star Wars timelines and keep legends going, or dont bother with legends at all.

I think what I see from Dave that Theory appreciates is a love of Star Wars and its characters, which is the one thing I will say Dave has that is good. He knows and loves the characters. Unfortunately, I don't think Dave has the talent or intelligence to craft good stories and do the characters he loves justice. Every time he touches these characters, it feels like a grown man playing with his favorite toys.

I LOVE THESE 3!

The foreshadowing in Bad Batch was way over the top. Now we have the final season tomorrow and everyone knows what's gonna happen already. Feels so pointless.

Ryan is an American Treasure and we should appreciate him more.

I’m calling it right now, Mauler is gonna think TCW is shit.

Theory, just admit that Filoni sucks.

The reader creates the story in interpreting it, the only valid "Canon" is whatever that is to each individual reader, headcanon is infinitely more valid than "Canon." Stories aren't real, there is no "true" version of events, owning it doesn't make your fictional story the correct one, it just means you have the legal rights to it, "Canon" isn't canon if you don't want it to be as your made up version of events is as real as anyone else's. Disney "Canon" is just a story they as a company endorse, the way star wars fans talk about it it's like your denying history, it's a story, if I say it did or didn't happen that fiction is as valid as the original, and especially equal to Disney's. Headcanon isn't stuff you like or don't like, it's your version of events, your retelling of the story and it's equally valid to the original telling. There isn't any "true" version of the little red riding hood, there's the original and many others, and buying the legal rights in some or all countries to the story doesn't somehow make your story any more valid, it just allows you to profit off of it. If George says Han shot second and a fan that he didn't these are simply two different stories, neither more real than the other.

The Druid, the paladin, and the warrior

I always thought that Yoda lifting the xwing was EASY for him

the world between worlds and that whole episode was great.; I think it was the perfect connection. Dave knows what hes nancies

Y’all get some sabers from Theory’s Sabers 💯

Bro, Barris in the Ahoska show? That would mean that yet another Jedi survived order 66. Its just gotten ridiculous. Keeps taking away from established lore.

2:58:55 omg that caught me off guard thanks ryan

HELL YEAH finaly its getting spicy. Love it Well Yoda stoped the Rocks and Doku force pulled them. YODA easy stoped them. So yeah Power of the force should be between what Theory and Ryan said.

Jedi Apprentice series and the follow up series were phenomenal. Huge part of what made me fall in love with reading growing up. Life changing series of books for me.

New Zealand is that Lotr country. Do they sell light sabers there?

This episode easily feels like my favorite. Just so many times I was laughing 😂

Ryan came in guns blazing lol. Someone must have screwed up his fast food order again.