"You just don't like female protagonists!!!" "Well I did at first, but you kinda talked me out of it..."

Hollywood’s like a restaurant that hates its customers, but finally looked at its empty tables and said “Fine. We’ll stop insulting people and sabotaging their food.” Then put a slice of cake on an empty table and waited five minutes before shouting “WHERE IS EVERYONE!?!”

I prefer to watch reruns of 80s 90s action movies

Jedi Brooks hit the nail on the head in the last few seconds. No one wants to see "content." Calling a movie or show "content" immediately tells you that it was made by suits, not creatives.

Anger at Hollywood has eliminated a big portion of the audience. It's just that simple. The lecture hall is now closed.

The girlboss prerogative has tainted any female led film. They really only have themselves to blame.

1. Tickets are expensive AF. The theaters are usually dirty and filled with noisy teens. Not a good experience. You need something truly special that is better on the big screen to go - like Dune or Oppenheimer. 2. COVID broke the habit of going to the cinema. Them releasing everything to streaming services so quickly adds to the incentive to stay home. 3. Hollywood hates like 90% of its audience - or at least pretends to. Just look at Star Wars. The last movie from that franchise I watched in theater (as a huge female fan) was Ep. 8. Wish I didn't.

One reason I think it failed to generate enthusiasm is that it’s been 9 years since Fury Road. Reminds me of how much everyone loved Sin City, but by the time they got around to a second one, it was 9 years later and the iron was no longer hot.

Hollywood told me to F off. I listened.

Furiosa already got her own movie, it was called "Fury Road". I feel like Max was practically a prop in his own movie.

Another factor is we can't trust most review sites anymore. Anyone curious is going to wait past opening weekend for more info on if it's worth the high ticket price, and by then a lot of the hype and fomo has left.

Had Furiosa came out directly after Fury Road, then it would've been a success. The big reason why it flopped is because this "girl boss" era of movies, the majority of them being from Disney, have ruined the perception of a proper female action lead that can be believable and vulnerable. Now, no film with a female action lead can succeed.

The fact this conversation even needs to happen, is telling. My 13 year old can see why this isn't working. Twice she asked "Who's Mad Max? Is he in the movie?" Boom. From the mouth of babes.

One thing that we haven't factored into the decline of theater attendance, The death of dating as a cultural standard. Couples don't go out together anymore. People aren't coupling up and doing the traditional things. It's a fundamental change in culture along with the fact that movies are no longer fun and entertaining.

The woke movement forgot people have freedom of choice...

Still, it’s a pity that Furiosa failed. This means that we will not see the next film in the Mad Max franchise very soon 😔

Strong female lead replacing a strong male lead is a cliche by now and an immediate reason not to bother watching as it's a clear signal of a lack of ideas and originality.

It took 8+ years of concerted effort but Hollywood managed to poison the well. Oh well. There's 100 years of good movies to watch.

Watched it yesterday at the cinema. It was great fun. The action, atmosphere, style and flow was on point. I enjoyed it the entire 2.5 hours without realizing it was that long. And yes: there is a mad max planned and placed after fury road.

For the past decade, Hollywood has relentlessly hammered audiences with the portrayal of flawless, unchanging Mary Sue characters, incessantly promoting an ideal of infallible girl bosses. This has become a glaringly predictable trope. A mere 30-second trailer is enough to reveal the entire plot of a 90-minute film. Even those who support this trend may soon find it tiresome. Regrettably, this movie might be an exception to the norm, but the male audience is so worn out and disillusioned that they are no longer willing to endure more of the same and are exhausted by constant moralizing.

Hollywood has told half of America we don’t want your money, and we agreed

"Furiosa" is the nickname I give to my Wife when I mix coloured washing in with the whites.

It's just the whole theater experience vs. the streaming service I pay for? I have no interest in driving to the theater, finding or paying for parking, paying close to a hundred bucks for tickets and snacks and then sit shoulder to shoulder with people who are chatting away or with their screaming children. Or, wait until it comes out on streaming. Hmm...choices.

Home theater replaced movie theater. Streaming replaced Hollywood. It's a glorious outcome for the consumer.

I've got Girlboss PTSD.

Doesn't matter if the film is actually good, a female lead is off-putting in current year. People expect a lecturing Mary Sue, and who wants that?!. They have managed to do the exact opposite of their intention.

Why go to the cinema? Wait a month and it will be on streaming. Or some website with servers based in a country with no copyright laws.

Screw Hollywood. 🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻

Had they made a follow up to Fury Road where Tom Hardy is revealed to be the “feral child “ from “Road Warrior, and Mel returned as the real Max it would be making truckloads of money.

When a single movie ticket costs more than your streaming service for the whole month, waiting a few weeks is negligible

I can't stress this enough: Go see _Furiosa_ on the big screen while you can. It is a REALLY good film.

Just watched Furiosa, I’m not familiar with the franchise. It was a very enjoyable arty action flick. Good time

This year I would have watched Dune 2, Ghostbusters, Godzilla/Kong, Planet of the Apes, Mad Max in theatres but as a family of four its over $100 (tickets and concessions). That’s $500+ for the movies I just listed. Added to the fact the possibility of annoying people talking etc ruining my enjoyment. I would rather wait, purchase the blu ray for $30 and watch it over and over again (with subtitles) at home on my big screen surround sound. 30 x 5= $150. That’s $350 savings. We can also add that a trip to the theatres may also require going out to eat another $150. In today’s economic climate…..very difficult for may families. I could do it but I would rather save that money for a family vacation.

The expectation of shit is why people have stopped going. Keep shovelling it and people learn. Hollywood killed itself.

Furiosa was a script already written when Fury Road came out, and it was supposed to be an animated film as a companion piece. That unfortunately fell through, so when the time came to maybe make another film, they already had a whole script ready to go. Everyone is whining that it's some kind of agenda, but it's just that they already had a perfectly good story ready to go.

How to save this franchise: Mel Gibson and Tom Hardy in next movie, acknowledge Tom's character was actually the feral kid from The Road Warrior.

Princess Leia from the ORIGINAL Star Wars (New Hope) was a great example of a true female protagonist. She gets captured by Vader and Empire and could not fight back since she was overwhelmed (today she would toss Vader and Co around like rag dolls). She was tortured, and could do nothing. But, when given the chance, she had the courage to fight and lead. Again, not tossing the males around, because she was smaller and weaker, but in spirit and cunning, and in conjunction with her male counterparts, won the day.

A prequel to a movie almost 10 years ago. No Charluze, No Mad Max. No money

The problem is that people can’t afford to go to the movies. Way too expensive

For most mainstream audiences, the cost of seeing something in the cinema no longer justifies the experience. If the missus and I want to go to a movie, it’s a $200 outing by the time we organise a babysitter and make a night of it and I can’t recall the last time I saw any movie that was good enough to justify that kind of outlay, especially when I know it’ll be on streaming 3 weeks after release

Going to the movies is an actual luxury now that fewer and fewer people can afford from their monthly budgets. Inflation has reduced spending power and people are making the sensible decision to stay home and wait for the movie to hit a streaming service.

People are just tired of the Hollywood formula. I think people know what to expect from something like Fall Guy or the other movies that came out. I think they want to experience something they haven’t seen before and that’s why they’re seeking out foreign films. It’s why Godzilla Minus One was so successful.

As a family of 4, going to the movies is an expense. Tickets are $18 to $24 each, then add in popcorn, drinks, and candy, maybe a beer...it adds up. If we go to 3 movies a month it's nearly $400.

20 years ago or so, going to the movies was just part of our social life. We just went to the movies as it was the thing to do on friday/saturday. We of course went to see our favorite movies but we also just went to go see whatever was playing. The younger generations began to move away from that as internet was more the norm. Covid broke that cycle of going to the movie almost every weekend and on top of that price, politics, low quality all pushed the nails into the coffin. Again going to the movies, any movie, was more a way of life then anything else and that has changed

People can’t afford McDonald’s they can’t afford movie tickets. That’s the biggest driver imo

Tbf, the movie is great, it's just... well, I barely had the money for the tickets and popcorn and the theatres is my place to relax. I don't see myself going for a second viewing, while I am fortunate to be able to have money for my monthly dues and stuff, I think this doesn't justify the expense for most people right now. People would probably just wait for the streaming version on Netflix or something. Box office flop doesn't mean it's a bad movie.

My local theater closed last month. So instead of a two minute drive I’m making a half hour drive to see a movie. That has been a big factor for me.

Last time I went to a theater, a whole family showed up with tablets and sat behind me. I haven't been back since.

I can remember when epic-length movies, like Ben Hur, had an intermission half-way through, so people could go to the bathroom and the concession stand.

I grew up in media industry, double majored in film and psychology, spent many years in the film industry, many of tens of thousands of dollars on home theater systems and media... And at the moment I could not even find two fucks to rub together about what is coming out of the industry right now. I am bored, I am tired, and I am not entertained. Over 30 years of passion has completely evaporated with the bullshit going on in the past 5 years. The length time versus the price point versus the effort is also a contributing factor. The product is mostly shit so there's a high risk. A family of four is going to cost you a good 150 bucks to take them out and have a good time, if you're an avid movie fan and used to going once a week that is 600 bucks a month, for a subpar experience that most movies today don't deserve.

Bought ten quality dvds of the best movies from the 80s and 90s for $60 bucks. I'm investing in the past and will amuse myself. F Hollywood

They have shoved THE MESSAGE into so many movies in recent years, I think people are shying away from all of them just to avoid it. If there's a hint of pandering in the casting or trailers, I'm not giving them my money.

As a father with 4 children it costs $150.00 to go watch a movie so it better be a damn good movie for me to blow that kind of money....or just wait 3 weeks and pay $20.00 to watch it at home.

I think another problem is the US has become to expensive, with wages 3x higher than in Europe, Japan, etc. Hollywood can't demand higher ticket prices outside the States to compensate for higher production/marketing costs, and that's a problem

I haven’t been to the cinema since Spider-Man in 2022. And I’ve genuinely no intentions going anytime soon, I can wait a few weeks and stream it.. for free. The industry is dead, I’m not paying €15 to sit and watch a movie I don’t care about.

Hail Drinker and friends. Just wanted to offer a unique insight as an Aussie where Furiosa was filmed. The budget for the film was actually upwards of $350M because the Australian government funded 170M plus tax benefits because it was filmed in the country. So add that to the fact as to how badly it flopped while the economy is horrific but the govt has money to spend on garbage like this... yeah it definitely puts things in perspective.

A big reason people aren’t aren’t going to the movies too is ultimately just the economy and finances; going to the movie theater is an excess luxury at this point, my own local theater charges about 18 Dollars a ticket to go see a movie and I could never justify that when I could just wait to see it on steaming or go pirate it myself any number of sites that offer that. Until the theater wakes up and changes their business model and doesn’t try to charge a family of four damn near a hundred dollars for tickets, popcorn and a drink, then I don’t see this changing anytime soon.

Furiosa was good and didn’t deserve to flop.

I’m absolutely blown away that Hollywood has boiled down the Summer Blockbusters to just a handful of films. I used to be excited to see a blockbuster film every week over the Summer. Now it’s like, “Meh. I’ll sit home and dip into the DVD or streaming collection…”

It’s a huge problem. The “stars” aren’t stars. We know too much about them, they take stances on too much and we know too much about the moral decay in Hollywood. Unless it’s a major cultural phenomenon movie I won’t see it. You can’t suspend disbelief when you have opinions on who the actors are and not what their work is. People have been burned so much and it’s so expensive they checked out. Wait to see it on a streaming service I’m already paying for.

Price is huge factor for current movies. I am able to watch new release films for $5.00 at theater in northern MI, The Lake in Oscoda, newly furnished seating with large recliner, audience is generally well behaved and great prices at snack bar but still found Furiosa almost unwatchable. I left theater hoping no one recognized us.

It's a pity that "Furiosa" isn't selling as many tickets, as it should. It's a really enjoyable action movie, not as fast-paced as "Fury Road", but with a more elaborate plot, and many interesting characters and locations (it was really cool to finally see Bullet Farm and Gas Town). Great performance of Chris Hemsworth and Anya Taylor-Joy. For sure I will go see it again, this time in IMAX, hope that George Miller will get a green light for another movie from this post-apo universe

Matt Damon talked about how the financial landscape has changed in the past 20 years on an episode of Hot Ones I think. All about how they used to count on dvd and vhs sales to fill in gaps, and now everything is different and it’s hard to make smaller movies. Plus everything you guys said too

No one batted an eye when Idris Elba was cast as Luther because we understood the casting and green lighting a show process to be a meritocracy. But this is the inevitable outcome of certain hiring practices becoming prevalent. It turns people off because we don’t want to watch stories and actors who were given the spot rather than earned their place. I don’t think Furiosa is that but now it’s too late the well’s been tainted and public perception has shifted.

We went to see it yesterday. 4:00 on a Tuesday, $8 matinee. We were the only car in the parking lot. Not just the only ones seeing this movie, but the only one in the theater. When we left, there were 4 other cars parked. I don't see how they keep the doors open

People forget a solid video game that helped the franchise.

This happened to arcades around the SNES/Genesis time frame. Once arcade quality games became available at home (specifically fighting games) the incentive to travel to and arcade to spend money went away. Arcade games were starting to cost more than quarter (in some cases a dollar) and the games at home, while not on the same level were "good enough" to the general public. The pandemic was the nail in the coffin. Everyone was stuck at home watching tv and movies for a month. The studios dumped everything into streaming and everyone realized that their 55-70 inch TVs were "good enough" plus the added bonus of more comfortable seats (your couch), better, cheaper food (your fridge) and maybe the most important part, the pause button for bathroom breaks (also no strangers talking, texting, or bringing babies). If movies studios would wait 4-6 months before releasing new stuff on VOD or streaming, maybe they could build back the general public's appetite for going to the theater. Unfortunately we all know that short term greed will not allow them to look long term so this will never happen. I can see theaters like AMC closing nationwide and only boutique higher end models like IMAX or Alamo Drafthouse surviving, basically like Dave and Busters did for arcade games when the home market caught up to the local arcade.

I think another huge reason nobody goes to the theater anymore is that there's hardly any commercials for movies on TV now, and most people have moved away from TV to streaming or using their computer to watch something with no ads. As a kid I would get so excited about X or Y movie coming out because I kept seeing commercials advertising it. Now it's all just ads from drug companies and lawyers.

They need to make movie theaters classy again...instead of seen as trashy

I used to be more willing to see bad, mid, and even movies that are just “good”. Now it’s such a time and money investment that I rarely go see anything.

Part of it is I hate Hollywood and secondly there is NOTHING new

Matinee in my neighborhood : $12.19 Evening Prices: $16.70 You know, once they got over $8 for the matinee, I kind of checked out of the whole "movie theater" experience on a regular basis. When it was $5 for 2nd Run movies at the local Danberry [before they closed it] I would go see something at least 6 or 8 times a year. Now they're lucky to see me once or twice a year, and it has to be an "event!"

The original motorcycle chief inn the black leathered revebge flick is the Water master in Furiosa by the way. The Road Warrior is a classic. Thunderdome with the remarkable Tina Turner as Auntie Entity was superb...."Raggedy man you and I are a pair:! The sight of her walking through he desert in high heels is precious! The language George develops for the Captain cult desert kids is so creative a mix of pidgin English and other dialects. ....Two men in and one man out says the "Master-Blaster-duo": and we have a reprise in the coms tech freak in Furiosa. We miss Mel tremendously.

Everyone wanted another mad max movie with mad max in it. That is the problem the studios are not giving us what we want

What were the surefire movie franchises from 15 or 20 years ago?- Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Pixar movies. Each of those franchises have repeatedly disappointed fans in a major way. Nobody trusts Hollywood movies anymore.

I started having a negative perception of going to movies (which I've always loved) around probably 2012 - 2014, when every time i would go, I would experience either people around my on their bright ass phones the whole movie or huge groups of (mostly "diverse") teenagers literally yelling to each other having full blown converstations throughout the movie. To the point where I had three movies in a row where I just left and requested a refund. The theaters seemed to refuse to even try to warn or kick out others who were disruptive. And that was when there were movies i actually WANTED to see. Now, combine that with crazy prices, crumbling nasty theaters, the phone/tablet problem being even worse, COVID breaking the habit of even going to see movies, AND the movies are all woke, terrible piles of crap that are all either super hero movies or remakes/prequels/sequels no one asked for? The industry is dead and it just doesnt know it yet. Also, i dont want to give money to anything or anyone related to Hollywood, which has the unfortunate issue of both being evil and also hating me.

I’ve reached a point where there are certain movies I either go see in IMAX (Dune, Oppenheimer, The Batman for example) or watch at home. I haven’t seen a movie in a non Imax theater in probably 6 years bc my home theater setup is arguably better, I don’t have to deal with loud kids, people getting up to walk out of the theater (makes me anxious and takes me out of the movie) but most importantly I can have a nice meal or snacks prepared and pause the movie to use the restroom or rewind a minute or two if I notice I spaced out at some point. Also, I don’t mind waiting for new movies to come to streaming bc I’m almost always behind anyways. With the amount of video games, tv shows and movies released just let’s say in the last 10 years, there’s never a shortage of something to put on my TV. I work full time and watch sports after work some days so when I don’t have a game to watch in the evening I have a backlog of video games, TV shows and movies to go to at all times and for me personally the video games often take the priority.

The threshold for going out and take the family or a group of friends out to the cinema is just getting bigger. The amount of work that it takes to get a general feel of a movie to even consider the price of a movie ticket is exhausting... The fact that people are more up to taking that ticket price when the cinemas have reascreenings when a movie has an anniversary is very telling...

I didn’t even think it looked woke, I just don’t care about a Mad Max movie without Mad Max. More to the point, I think I’m just kinda done with Hollywood. They spent almost a decade telling me Im a piece of shit, so I don’t want to fund their lifestyles anymore.

Why is no one talking about how this is the second Furiosa movie??? Fury Road's plot was driven by and centered on Furiosa, Max was just along for the ride for the most part. They really pulled the wool over your eyes I guess, since no one seems to be calling that out.

My theater for Bad Boys was packed. I genuinely shocked at how many people showed up to see it.

One thing I admire was the realistic and risky film making of Mad max series. No CGI. This last one, broke that manly compromise.

The economy in America sucks. The media/pop culture isn't talking about it for some reason. Especially how little money everyone is making, in relation to how HIGH prices for EVERYTHING have become.

"My eyes are up here" I know, they're all I can see.

In the rural area that I grew up in they closed all of the local theaters in smaller towns. Now they would have to drive nearly an hour to see a film, instead of 5 or 10 minutes.

Can’t justify the cost to go to the cinema, in the current cost of living.

I miss the old school main female characters, Kill Bill, Charlie's Angels, Tomb Raider, to name a few.

It's only $8 in Brookings South Dakota to see a movie. Tuesday is half price $4 and still no one wants to go and see crap

This is why they cast Anna Taylor Joy as furiosa to try get around girlboss she is kind of a brand on her own. I suspect many ppl went only because they wanted to see how red queen does in this kind of movie. Then it turns out half of the movie is just flashbac without main lead.

I liked it watchable ! Love that style and cinematography !

Everyone watched the trailer and thought what I did, this is yet another girls boss feminist film that tries to overshadow a better male character. Its not complex.

It floped because it was advertised like a Disney Girl-boss film; which it's an immediate red flag. That and where's Max?

covid prompted me to finally set up a proper dedicated home theater room with a 120" screen, and since then, i just cant see going to the theater. costs too damned much, and is a generally shittier experience.i think the only two movies ive gone to see in the last 3-4 years were the two dune movies, thinking it would be worth it to get the whole theater experience... but in both cases, after re-watching them at home, i was left feeling like i should have just waited and saved the money. tbh at this point i doubt ill ever go to the theater again...

"Guys new Mad Max movie!" "Whos playing Max?" "Max isnt in it" "Oh..... pass"

I mean....it's there in the question "Why?" "Why a movie on Furiosa? Who wanted this?" That's a hard sell right there. Unless the movie is awesome you're not gonna get people to see a movie that people questioning why it should exist? It can't just be decent.

There is an audience still out there there, it just needs to be properly catered to. An example. I saw Furiosa last Saturday (at 22:30 so admittedly a quieter time) but there were maybe 10 people in the cinema. This Saturday I am going to see The Crow (19:30 showing) and when i booked it was already very full. A 30 year old movie is selling out a cinema and a brand new film is empty? You are not properly catering to your audience.

I think in biggest factor is that unknown movies just need to wait 3 weeks for it to come out on streaming at way less and save a bunch if it turns out not great.

Nobody watches television either now so they don’t see ads for films

Furiosa was a great character in Fury Road, but I don’t think anyone was clamoring for her origin story.

A sad fact is that the Mad Max franchise just isn't a big money franchise. Fury Road earned the most at 371 million and didn't earn a profit in theaters. Most of these films are successful after they leave theaters.