Agreed. Thanks Captain for clarifying it.

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another internet expert. like everyone on youtube is suddenly a pilot. (that was sarcasm to be very clear, love the accident videos)

I was just thinking back to one of your videos where you explained that. Thanks for the input

Thanks for the clarification!

You are evil xd

had a couple of times at salt lake do to changing winds--it changed from north to south or visa versa--people got very nervous

Same, first time I had a go around it was pretty fun

Same, go around from 100ft or so in a perfect wx, pax around me are discussing all sorts of scary scenarios, turned out to be a pup on a runway

I experienced my first go around on a CRJ900 earlier this year. I was like oh ok, there goes the airport LOL. We ended up coming around and landing in the opposite direction due to funky winds. I Everyone was freaking out for no reason.

I get that, I really do. Back when I worked at a hospital I quickly developed muscle memory when it came to the code used to unlock the drug room door. One day when a recently hired nurse couldn’t remember the code and asked me to remind her of it, I realised that I didn’t remember the actual numbers of the code I had to do it off muscle memory and have her write it down while I entered it. So it can happen.

😂😂😂😂 Brilliant

Apparently you made it over them. Good job.

Got a job driving forklifts. Now I turn the windscreen wipers on when I want to reverse my car.

Great discussion! When I started driving ambulances I was warned that after a long shift, you'll have proceeded thru several red lights after visually clearing the intersections, until you remember that you're back in your personal vehicle.

The pilot: "Greased it. Like butter."

True! Now let’s compare the landing to other airlines landings…

@@AR_119 haha, yeah! I can imagine that!

@@GhostWatcher2024 they probably charged extra for it 😂

Totally. I've ever only felt like a sardine in a can on a Ryanair flight..

You might be related to me!

ill tear you up

@@FuelPoverty we probably are, it's not a common name! I have a ton of relatives I don't know!

@@Squids_Vlogs rrrreeeaalllllyy

Best part is the ATC saying "Nice job dude". 10/10 made my day by acknowledging the landing

LMAO

You’re not kidding 🫣

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣

There was some form of wholesome message in there.....just not today

And I love flying more and more every time.

If you hear the sound you must immediately jump off the plane. There is no other option :D

Ryanair has a bad customer service reputation. Not the crews, the company. They charge you for the tiniest things and trying to complain is supposed to be a nightmare! But I've not heard (am in the UK near(ish) an airport they use a lot) of any "dangerous" reputation.

@@y_fam_goeglyd don't read the news much then I guess.

@@y_fam_goeglyd Soft landings cost an extra 20 euro at Ryanair.

There's no weight switch on the gear preventing reverser deployment?

The one company I fortunately took advice from a pro not to fly on: ValuJet. Not long after the advice, they had that horrific crash in the glades.

Wow, really cool story!

There was a Beechcraft crash this past week north of Atlanta; not sure how old the couple on the plane were but news reports said they had been married 54 years. The gentleman had received clearance to land at DeKalb-Peachtree airport, then disappeared. People who knew him as a competent pilot have theorized he might have had some sort of medical issue. He reported no mechanical problems. So the wife in your example might have been right that he didn’t need to be flying anymore.

I wonder if the wife had an accident in her car, would the husband make his wife sell the car?

@@Eternal_Tech at the age of 70 probably

@hsbvt - if Mama ain't happy, nobody's happy.

No. Why? I was taking you with me. I tend to joke when I'm afraid. I didn't have time to be scared. Navigate called tower, mayday then land then bug out. Breathe. 😊

I thought my instructor planned this engine failure midair. Then it kicked back in over a field. Safely landed on the runway after declaring Mayday. Then I got scared realizing it was real. We never flew together again. I ended up with a fighter pilot who liked to show off inversions. This was not an aerobatic plane. I never ate prior to flights . I never threw up in any plane, yet.

Had you practice stuff like what. I don’t believe when you were learning to fly, you were doing anything related to deploying thrust reversers in flight

@blainepetsupplies5354 where in my post did i say anything about "deploying thrust reversers in flight"? If you actually read my post, you would know what my instructor had me practice. I wrote more than the first sentence.

"How's she fly?" "Like a brick." "What?" "You throw anything hard enough, and it'll look like it's flying." 😁

So basically the aerodynamic properties of a semi truck with wings.

@@EdwinWiles literally, the astronauts called it a flying brick….

Yup, the good old STA (Shuttle Training Aircraft).

@@falxonPSN One of the Shuttle engineers, during the drop tests of Enterprise in the late 70s, stated that the vehicle had "the glide ratio of a pair of pliers."

Patrick

Yeah I was going to say

Yea

@@Dylan-bh6uj so?

@@GhostWatcher2024 737-800 it’s short for

@@GhostWatcher2024 738 is short for the 800 version.

Turned too late to the runway and overshot it.

Not a pilot but I was worried about those tree too....

Im fairly sure it is Stansted Airport, almost all of Ryanair 737s are 800s there so you got this right.

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Yeah, thunderstorm landings are scary... especially if you're in an "experimental" and a squall pops up on you before you can get back to the strip... The worst I ever got was "sucked" off course at about 80 - 100... I ended up backwards and upside down in a neighbor's barn... Luckily it was "clean-out time" so a big OLD haypile was all there was, right in the middle of the barn... Not much damage to anything (including me)... just embarrassing and funny. ;o)

Cringe

According to Mentour Pilot's comment, 10'.

Honestly, without Ryanair, Irish people like me couldn't afford to fly abroad. Aer Lingus can be horribly expensive. Ryanair gave them commercial competition. I luckily have never had an issue when flying with them. We are lucky to have them IMO

I am English and have flown many times with Ryanair. They have always got me there on time whatever the weather. I remember one particularly turbulent flight from Shannon to Liverpool during the storms of 2006, with plenty of chop thrown in for good measure. It was the day after the infamous Lufthansa Airbus almost getting blown off the runway incident, and of course we had viewed the footage shortly before boarding. The entire pax load erupted into spontaneous cheers and applause as we slammed onto the runway after an hour of squeaky bum time. Happy days!

@@pancakesgo7995 I was at sea in the Bristol Channel when Ophelia hit. Kicked my backside good and proper. I clocked 92mph of wind so heaven knows what it must have been like on your flight. Respect to Ryan air pilots.

@@missimccarthy8408 stay on your island

@@DrWhom uhhhh xenophobic much?

congratulations I hope you enjoy it.

​@@74gear with you being at Atlas I thought you would have access to the 737 systems manual.

How is it going now?

@@daanschravendijk9269 Still working on the CPL, doing my XC syllabus at the moment. Weather has been horrendous, delayed a lot of my training unfortunately. Still loving it though!

@@cameronwise-maas5610inspired me to become a pilot as well. Unfortunately I’m too old so I have to settle for KZfaq.

Plenty of runway left there. Long 10000ft runway. That's my local, Stansted.This particular day was awful. Really bad crosswinds. To the casual observer, the landing seemed excellent in the conditions we were seeing.

@@pauldunn5978 I think "some guy" is talking about the GA plane with the engine failure, not the Ryanair 737.

For future reference, if your kitchen table is falling out of the sky, you built your house wrong.

@@beeble2003 Aah yes! I stand corrected.

Yeah, from my couch it seemed like maybe a wider return loop would have made everything a lot easier and set up for that crossing runway with plenty of space and without the aggressive S turn. :sips-coffee:

Be careful

Thrust reverse engaging at 200kts? Be careful with the glider when de-orbiting ;-)

That's what I thought when I saw it. Only thing I can think is that he is extremely familiar with the flight characteristics of that plane that he knew he had plenty of lift at that speed, temperature, and angle, despite the audible stall warning.

I agree. The pilot here pulls it off, which is wonderful, but I was thinking exactly the same thing. At that point, I'd just go for the snow.

If it was a bare open field, you would have a solid point. However, that snow looked rather deep and that could catch the gear and cause the aircraft to flip.

I had the same thought, though I can understand the appeal, under stress, of going for the runway when it's so close. I'm glad it worked out!

Yeah, I was thinking, "Right, made the right call to make the 180, he was high enough for that, but... man, you're too low to line that up, just go for the snow, it's soft, it'll help cushion things." Particularly in a light single, it's designed for a bit of "off-road" abuse to the gear, and hey, you already made the *airport*, don't take an excessive risk on trying to avoid any airframe damage.

@David Cole - sounds like a bleeping good instructor

@@lisanadinebaker5179 Yes indeed...as a young pilot he had suffered a real engine failure so being prepared was really important to him. Last time I heard from him he was flying business jets.

Checkout Baron Pilot Student Pilot's Worst Nightmare! - ACTUAL EMERGENCY - The Road To PIC Episode 3, His wife is working on her PPL.

Great instructor!

Or no runway at all. keep in mind that a field is often a possibility. The turn back to the departure runway after an engine failure is called "the impossible turn", because you will increase the already high angle of attack even further, often to the point of a stall.

He took a gamble to save the airplane lol. Your solution would have made you more likely to survive upside down in a destroyed plane :) (after it goes off the end of the runway and the nose gear collapses in the mud at 30 knots) Neither answer is incorrect. It just depends on your priorities.

The whole situation made me nervous, after seeing those Air Safety Institute videos regarding engine out on climb outs and advising people to not 180 back to the airport

​@@thevictoryoverhimself7298 Airplanes can be replaced, people can't. Those are some long runways and if speed or altitude needed to be lost a forward slip or flaps could have been deployed. Easy to loose the extra energy, not so easy to gain it back. Agree though that neither answer is incorrect, as I said before - easier to comment/speculate with hindsight. The pilot here did a great job at keeping it all under control at those slow speeds close to stall.

@@JoshAntBrown Saving both the human and the airplane is worth a try :) Energy management is something not even all experienced pilots have. Some people who only play video games might have better instincts than a 30 years airline pilot. Its one of those athlete things :)

Pinned comment (from Mentour Pilot) says this was during a major storm (assuming you mean the Ryanair 737). Approach was as stable as could be managed in that situation.

I had the same thought. There are AOPA ASI pilots who cannot do the impossible turn, so I seriously doubt I could. I guess it depends on height above the ground and plane performance (and pilot skill, of course).

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I wondered about that too...but I thought he had some other reason then when he said the same thing...I was like my instinct was right. Keep the blue side up⬆️.

We unfortunately don't know every other factor here but I can't tell if that runway would've been a better choice because he was in the middle of it and he definitely needed to make a sharp bank too (albeit not as sharp as the left one) but he probably wasn't confident about the remaining length of that runway so he might've overrun the runway

according to another commenter here the pilot said later he was so worried about hitting the trees that he lost track of when to turn

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I felt that way during my first landing as a teenager when I became worried about the sounds of air brakes and the reversers coming online so the plane can be configured to land. Fortunately I had the presence of mind to look at the other passengers and the flight attendants and decide that whatever was happening, it was normal and I calmed down.

That happened to me too when I was about the same age. Looked out the window and the rear of the engine had lifted up exposing the engine. What a fright!

Chris

That would be correct. Hard landings reduce the chance of needing a go around and they do that because three go arounds within a certain time frame means Ryanair will force the pilot to go back to the simulators for retraining.

@@mikoto7693 You have no idea. Ryanair has a no blame policy on go arounds, you even get in trouble if you don´t perform a go aroun in certain cases

Lol i was looking for something like this

"Ryan Air, soft landings would cost extra......."

Yup, SCUD Airways at it again!

Love this😂

Maybe to save on the number of times that they need to replace the brakes? Using reverse thrust every time instead 😅

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Yes, I was taught the same. I suspect that white stuff visible on the ground may be a clue as to why this worked out for him. Climb performance is significantly better in the more dense air on a cold day. If this had been a hot and humid day instead, that turn may have ended very badly for him.

500 agl is too low for a power off turnback. Ok if some power left on. I practiced power on turnbacks EFATO from 400 agl in 1998. They work. and it is more than 180 if landing on the opposite runway.

Impossible Turn

Quick thinking is definitely required in situations like this. As an instructor once told me, "never run out of altitude, airspeed and ideas all at the same time"

He was incredibly lucky. He knew his plane very well and was skilled flying it, but he was incredibly lucky.

there's a reason they call it the impossible turn

Yeah, I was about to comment the same. That's called the "impossible turn" for a reason. It usually isn't possible and instead results in crashing before reaching the field. Perhaps his plane had better climb performance than most light singles. Also, I suspect that the white stuff on the ground is also a hint at part of why he made it: climb performance is significantly better on cold days than on hot ones due to the more dense air. If he had tried that same maneuver on a hot and humid day, he might have ended up in those trees instead. For light singles, I was always taught to find the least bad spot to land that is more or less in front of you if the engine quits after takeoff. You trade a whole lot of energy to make that 180 degree turn and you usually don't have that much to spare so soon after takeoff. That was one advantage of the airport where I did the early part of my flight training, though: it was on a 300-400' hill, so shortly after passing the departure end of the runway, you had an extra 300-400' of altitude to trade if needed. On the other hand, you really, really didn't want to land short there and the wind flowing down off of the hill into the valley below would pull you down a bit on short final (there was a 300-400' drop at both ends of the runway.)

AGL! He got away with it that time, but wow.

This is a 22 landing away from the terminal at STN. There is a rapid exit turn but two more options a bit further down. The difference in taxi time is literally one minute so not really an issue. The RET is more for the benefit of the airport to get aircraft off the runway ASAP so clearance can be given promptly to inbound traffic at peak arrival times.

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